Dear all,
Do you know the overspeed for the O2 mini software Pocket Hack Master, attachment is full version share for all O2 mini fans
Good? Are U sure U can o/c yr jam stablely? So far, I don't see any o/c software run stable on jam.
I tried running my mini at 520mhz using pocket hack master. It ran quite fast indeed, then it did a hard reset after about half an hour.
I didn't bother to re-install hackmaster after that, but before I tried overclocking it, I was experimenting with underclocking it to see if the battery life would be extended. I didn't run my experiment long enough to see tangible results though. Anybody else tried underclocking their minis/jams?
xcpuscalar
i always use xcpuscalar, to underclock and sometimes overclock my jam.
it works fine, and i think its easier than phm.
I did use PHM and uninstalled it. The thing is, that, for most cases, overclocking isn't neccessary at all. It only brang me some faster game speeds for some (!) games. But that's not worth it. The increase in speed is only slight. The disadvantage is the battery drain with PHM, even when underclocking resp. using the scaling possibiltity. Both drains the battery a lot more than without PHM running at 416MHZ. The problem is the voltage regulation which isn't working with PHM but which the CPU is regulating itself very well, when left alone.
So, if you aren't 100% sure that you need (a bit) more speed, forget about it.
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Has anyone noticed any long term disadvantages to overclocking the Wizard? Does the battery life permanently decrease? What speeds are you running yours at, and how long have you been doing it? Have you noticed anything at all which indicates it's not good for the hardware?
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i believe that it's safe to overclock the mda...just set it at an acceptable rate (264mhz for me) and make sure not to run the battery all the way down...if you overclock the settings too high the device will freeze and reset (this is a fail safe procedure it goes through), so there is no need to worry...also don't overclock the settings too low as the phone becomes disfunctional when too low (about less than 132mhz for me)...the screen flickers because it's not being refreshed quick enough (my guess)...hope this helps...
I would set it to 240. I have done before, i'm just wondering if it's a bad idea leaving it permanently set to that level?
Cheers
yea you should be fine at that speed, but if you want you can overclock it higher if it will let you...just make sure that the phone is stable when using it...like i said in my earlier post my device is oc at 264mhz
Cool, thanks for your replies. How long have you had yours overclocked for? Do you use Smartskey?
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My self i ownly use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.
My self i only use it when need the extra speed, only with some games and wmv video files. I think it definitely lowers battery life and i would have worries about overclocking all the time and the long term effect it has on the processor (not so important if you only keep your wizard for a year and then change with a new contract - what i do new device once a year!) I found good speed gains with the registry wizard - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725
have not found overclocking produces that much extra speed.
Mine is also set at 264 24/7. Battery still lasts me all day. Been doing it since the oc program was found which I guess has been a couple of months.
Don't forget, you're wizard is only overclocked when it is active (i.e. not in standby mode). When your wizard goes into standby, it automatically goes back to the default 180mhz. Only when you bring it out of standby does it overclock again (assuming you're running it with smartskey with the option of overclocking on wakeup)
i'm using smartkey to constantly run at 264mhz...i have been doing this for a month now...like i said there is not really any problems with the batt unless you run it down totally...there was a post about this in the overclocking thread...the process is set low so that the phone will have a longer batt life...this was also stated in the overclocking thread...theoretically there is more wear if you overclock it since you are making the processor work harder, so use it at your own risk! if you want to be on the safe side then use smartkey and the overclocking prog in the same directory...then use total commander's note pad (while the ini file is highlighted) and change the value lower when you don't want it to constantly run at 264mhz or whatever speed you want to overclock or underclock at...just use it when needed, but i overclock mine constant 264mhz with great results combined with tweaks2k2, registry wizard, and of course the tmobile custom rom ...internet is a blast...just wish i could get it to run like the IE in a pc
anyways hope this helps out a bit further...
activesync
your activesync will hang allot if you overclock, I have noticed this.
DOnt know why.
For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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For some reason i stumbled onto something, im sure its been mentioned b4 but when running Wisbar advance with a Windows vista skin done by xcillion, i am able to overclock my cingular 8125 to 288mhz at a stable rate with no problems at all, can run warcraft 2 full speed with over 50 units battling it out on screen, almost doubles browsing speed and i can run all the emulators including SNES at full speed with sound. when i dont have wisbar advance running i cant go past 240mhz clocking speed. I wonder has anyone else noticed this or gone higher than 288 without a freeze. Also, my battery life runs steady for a full day of browsing the internet talking on mobile messanger and listening to music at half volume for a full day.
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hey sonic, where did you get your copy of warcraft 2 for windows mobile ?
I've never heard of warcraft for Windows mobile, how does it run on a 240 MHz overclock?
I got it from the Wargus engine. i can email you the files if need be, i dont want to jeprodize this sites reputation. The game last time i checked was free though...
Actually I'm not sure if it's the overclocking issue or not but ...
For couple of weeks now my Wizard's red led is on all the time, not like it is when your battery is very low but about half of this brightness. I'm not really worried about that, it doesn't change much but it may be connected with overclocking (it was 240 for about a month).
Another thing - once I had sth like 110% speed of every tone played, either a phone call or an incoming message.
It doesn't really matter to me since it's still working fine but it may mean that overclocking isn't that safe as we might think.
TroLoo
Hi guys!
I see that my Jamin is stable at 240MHZ... what is, in your opinion, the hi stable overclock for the Jamin... ?
O2 Neo
Hi, i run my O2 Neo at 240 stable. I'll probably try even 252. It's summer so I wouldn't push it higher than that. 252 could be stable, but depends on conditions. Just try it for few days.
Running at 240 MHz, it the battery life MUCH reduced than using factory 200 MHz speed?
My opinion - 'Sligtly' is more accurate then MUCH. But i didn't measure it.
252 MHz for 2 month on my XDA Neo with JAMin ROM, without any problem. Battery life is good, did not really see any difference before and after overlocking.
Well, I have been running my wizard at 264 MHz for 4 months straight and it has never failed on me. i have it on all the time after standby and soft resets. ive also tried 276MHz for a while but i had to soft reset it almost twice a day.
BTW, increasing the clock higher than usual does not heat up your device. the most it would do is soft reset it. temperature running at 264mhz is mostly the same as running at factory speed. (well for me it has) dont know about some of you.
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BTW, increasing the clock higher than usual does not heat up your device. the most it would do is soft reset it. temperature running at 264mhz is mostly the same as running at factory speed. (well for me it has) dont know about some of you.
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How do ya measure the temp?
cellchamp said:
How do ya measure the temp?
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Xbar can do it
Overclok on Dopod 818pro
Guys, my device is Dopod 818pro, and i was using OmapClock.exe to OvClock my processor, but, when the first time i run this program, the clock speed, says 264 Mhz? is it supposed to be the correct Processor Speed?
I got confused as i read anywhere else that the default factory speed is only at 180 Mhz.
But why is it my device gives me a 264 Mhz on Clock Speed?
also i've tried all the guides and tricks to keep my Clock Speed at certain number (eg. 216 Mhz). such as using a MemMaid and etc. but still, i always got the number 264 Mhz and it won't change at all... neither after soft-reset nor stand-by.
Anyone got the same problems?
I forgot to mention, when the first time i bought this 818pro, i felt that my device run very fast, even faster than my friends HP 6828 and ATOM PURE. Did i get lucky or sumthin'?
Everything on my device is still on factory setting...
i removed the OmapClock and Other Utility Software..
also..... there is one more sw.... 'Pocket Hack Master' from http://www.antontomov.com.... have a look whether it has compatiblity with URs.....
might be helpful.....
Mine has been stable at 240MHz for 2 months so about 6 weeks ago I bumped it to 252MHz and is stable since.
Nir
thanks! :wink:
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p12a said:
Guys, my device is Dopod 818pro, and i was using OmapClock.exe to OvClock my processor, but, when the first time i run this program, the clock speed, says 264 Mhz? is it supposed to be the correct Processor Speed?
I got confused as i read anywhere else that the default factory speed is only at 180 Mhz.
But why is it my device gives me a 264 Mhz on Clock Speed?
also i've tried all the guides and tricks to keep my Clock Speed at certain number (eg. 216 Mhz). such as using a MemMaid and etc. but still, i always got the number 264 Mhz and it won't change at all... neither after soft-reset nor stand-by.
Anyone got the same problems?
I forgot to mention, when the first time i bought this 818pro, i felt that my device run very fast, even faster than my friends HP 6828 and ATOM PURE. Did i get lucky or sumthin'?
Everything on my device is still on factory setting...
i removed the OmapClock and Other Utility Software..
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Try installing the demo of sktools - its the only program I know that shows the true processor speed.
i did over clock to my device into 240, and it's works normally, but i don't know how to know that my overclocking was success or not, where can i read the speed of processor after overclocked?
rGrds
-wisnu-
how do i keep my device permanently on at a certain speed thgough omapclock?
also i would like the overlock to work at the set speed even after soft resets. Is this possible?
cellchamp said:
how do i keep my device permanently on at a certain speed thgough omapclock?
also i would like the overlock to work at the set speed even after soft resets. Is this possible?
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Yes you can 2 simple methods here
1. Using omapclockplus - see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56057
2. Use batterystatus plugin - displays Mhz on today screen and has omap functions inc device wakeup overclocking see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55782
You could also use smartskey or notification queue method but above methods use easy install cabs.
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My opinion - 'Sligtly' is more accurate then MUCH. But i didn't measure it.
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Just tried - I agree, there is no big difference in battery life - similar autonomy than factory settings when running at 240 MHz...
Hi,
I really don't recommand to overclock the prophet over 240mhz.
I overclocked my first prophet @252mhz.
I had no crash problem with this overclocking, but it burned the bluetooth chipset.
Now i have a new one and have a permanent overclock @216mhz, and sometimes i overclock it @240mhz, but usually it' only to do some tests!
The 216mhz is more than enough to do what i want.
Bye
Herc. 8)
PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!
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PocketHack Master V4 is now out with Tytn support. Be warned that at it's highest setting of 440mhz i had to HARD reset my device.... Must start at a lower speed next time and work my way up!
I'm still in the middle of restoring!!
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have you found a need to overclock the device then...., might works fine for what I use it for
Thanks for pointing this out... I updated the FAQs on the wiki.
It automatically scales the processor voltage onSamsung S3C2440 processors
so does this clock it over 440mhz, because an extra 40mhz doesnt really sound worthy of paying for software, especially when the TyTN is pretty snappy?
So... do you need to stick it in a fridge or anything afterwards?
I think the main idea of using the program is to allow a "super battery saving" mode, by underclocking the device it will use less power....obviously impacting performance-wise but still!
The main reason I wanted PHM was to help render web pages faster. My tytn downloads quicker than the works PC on normal broadband but the pages take longer to 'finalize' the page (i.e.. you can scroll down a page and it's still inserting images). This is a CPU speed issue.
I have finally got to play with PHM and it still needs more work! Just doing a test at tytn's default 400Mhz crashes my phone, never mind higher! I never got much higher than 300Mhz, how strange!!
Hack Master V4 not ready for primetime!
As others have noted, don't waste your time on Hack Master v4. I played with it, only to find it causes crashes, no matter what you do. Also, I found that it caused an incomplete Hard Reset. So, I had to do the manual hard reset twice, to get TYTN working again correctly.
Also, the Wiki should be updated to show there are still problems for anyone wanting to OC the TYTN.
I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...
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I stupidly tried PHM too, and have just suffered a partial hard reset. Here goes the long and frustrating reinstall...
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aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...
We should probably change the title of this thread to say "OVERCLOCKING: DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT..." :idea:
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aren't we allowed to take these people to court? False advertising and damaging my equipment? They must have had enough emails by now and yet the same program is still there advertising the same things, very poor...
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They can get away with it through the fact that they tell you to backup your device before you use the program. Coming from an XDAII where PHM worked perfectly though, I stupidly assumed that the quality of the product would be at least the same or even better after numerous updates.
I'm pretty much set up again now, but I'll certainly be looking at purchasing a backup solution before I put my trust in something like that again.
Don't think about it, even with a backup... While trying to overclock my TyTN smoothly, it's now on the way to service (no more booting at all...)
Gx
Oops ... you should have read this thread before even trying overcloking ...
sorry for ya mate !!!
I find my Jasjam (Hermes) runs very fast and I don't see the point in over clocking it when it runs fast enough normally.
Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch
?Glitch that is amazing not just the speed but the fact that their is no problems!!!!!!!!
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Have XCPU Scaler, in autoscale mode working up to 500mhz, on a cingular 8525 (HERM100), no resets, no problem.
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Also scaled down to 200mhz on the low side for super battery saver.
?Glitch
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you'll be needing one of those new spangly batteries with extra life to cope with a processor increase like that.
@?Glitch: Can you post some screenshots?
That's awesome .. Has anyone else tried this program out? How's it working for you?
I'm using the XCPUScalar with its CPU load based setting.
Normally I set the speed to only 200MHz while on heavy load it speed-up back to 400MHz and 500NHz on very high load.
On day-to-day use it looks like extending the battery life (working on lower clock rate) whiles much quicker route calculation when using the navigation program.
Currently I faced now problem.
Can it permenantly destroy or harm it if i overclock to lets say...280Mhz?
and also,what is the best /recommended overclocking software??
thanks
You could damage your device trying to overclock too high in theory - but it rarely seems to happen. The device most often goes to a white screen and soft resets, You have to find a stable speed for your device - 240mhz omapclock speed = 260mhz real speed -seems to be stable for most people.
Use omapclockplus http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56057&highlight=
Or batterystatus (with today plugin) http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55782&highlight=
Or you could use omapclock with smartskey or memaid/sktools
choice is yours :wink:
I haven't had any problems so far, but am running it modestly overclocked @ 247 Mhz. I am using the batterytodayplugin, works great.
Possibly I'll bump it up another notch to 260, but for now I don't need that extra speed...
One advice - go slowly. Increase in increments, and wait a few days between each higher overclock value. That way you can determine if it is stable.
Have you ever wondered if your ipaq really works at 520mhz? Well it doesnt.
It uses a "battery saving" technology so the cpu can run at lower speeds when not used. But tha thing is that the top speed allowed is 416 mhz. That's it.
The cure is a program called xCPU scalar, many of you may know it. So if you want to play some demanding games or watch unconverted Divx movie you have to use it and if you are lucky you may get even 624mhz. I ran a benchmark from skTOOLS and first it gave me very poor results. When i clocked the CPU the test showed that at some points it;s even faster than omnia and almost as fast as dell axim. Speed comes with a price though - tha battery wont ;ast even a day. So it's recommendet either to let the cpu manage it's own speed or use the stepping of xCPU scalar. If you want to save your battery you may set top speed 312 mhz. I tried to play a mp4 movie converted for qvga at 100mhz and it plays quite well.
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Have you ever wondered if your ipaq really works at 520mhz? Well it doesnt.
It uses a "battery saving" technology so the cpu can run at lower speeds when not used. But tha thing is that the top speed allowed is 416 mhz. That's it.
The cure is a program called xCPU scalar, many of you may know it. So if you want to play some demanding games or watch unconverted Divx movie you have to use it and if you are lucky you may get even 624mhz. I ran a benchmark from skTOOLS and first it gave me very poor results. When i clocked the CPU the test showed that at some points it;s even faster than omnia and almost as fast as dell axim. Speed comes with a price though - tha battery wont ;ast even a day. So it's recommendet either to let the cpu manage it's own speed or use the stepping of xCPU scalar. If you want to save your battery you may set top speed 312 mhz. I tried to play a mp4 movie converted for qvga at 100mhz and it plays quite well.
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i lowered the speed to 104mhz. one day usage, still 76% power. usable for normal calling and messaging.
Yep. That's it. You can try playing a 320X240 Mpeg4 movie or playing Asphalt4HD - still quite acceptable framerate.
i bring it to that low i.e. 104 mhz, it freezes. The only reliable one is 312 mhz
I use 612c, on winmo 6.1
Always amazes me how much everybody else gets from their batteries with this device.
I routinely get through three batteries in 24 hours and sometimes four (i.e. one battery every 6-8 hours). Admittedly I am quite a heavy user of the device in general but this battery consumption is with minimal use of wi-fi or GPS.
When I get home every evening I have a handful of flat batteries and an array of chargers to plug them into, ready for the next morning.
I have not had a touch-screen phone that gave me a full day's usage, ever.
I really know what you mean!
I'm a light user, with processor UNDERclocked, screen turned to dark (level 1) and i still get 5-8 hours of use. The pocket pc becomes hot like lava when used for listening to music and doing other stuff. It's crazy. Getting a replacement soon.
912c is not compatible with xcpuscalar or PHM. it was good at the first run. but after soft resetting the device, it becoming not stable. so i have to uninstall or even hard reset the device.
i haven't find any good (or stable) solution to over/underclocking for iPAQ 912c. is someone can help me out. i really need the capability to change the clock speed.
How to change the clock speed of the iPAQ 6xx?
Thank You..
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How to change the clock speed of the iPAQ 6xx?
Thank You..
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pocket hack master or xcpuscaler, however beware it may cause the device unstable