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different processor between the magician and the wizard

hello, I would like to change my ppc to the wizard. The problem is that I saw there is a different processor on the wizard : TI OMAP 850 200 Mhz. The magician has an Intel XScale Bulverde PXA272 416 MHz!!! Is it a big difference??? Is the wizard slower than the magician?Is it an important quality for the app? Thanks very much

Well, if you believe the benchmarks at the bottom of the wiki...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
...then yes, the Wizard sucks performance-wise.
On the other hand, most people who are using one haven't had all that many complaints. I guess try one in a store.

I've heard of some peopel that couldn't even cope with the wizard cuz of its processor.
For me this was a scare whether i should get one or not. But once you try it, its not that bad. Everyone has they're own needs for performance, so the best answer is don't believe what anyone says on these forums, just go grab one and use it for a bit and see if it suits you or not.

best processor

hi!which processor is better?the one HTC TYTN has or the Mio A701 ?thank you in advance!

aristotelisb said:
hi!which processor is better?the one HTC TYTN has or the Mio A701 ?thank you in advance!
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I have both devices.. but I think the Xscale 520 Mhz is faster but.....
but the processor from my vario is more stable... Tomtom 6 works the same... the pull down menu from WM5 is little bit slower...
But at the end... the vario is much more a winner... !!!!
Mio A701 is a bad phone... poor audio, poor gsm hardware!! OLD stuff!!
Vario II / Tytn has a good mix of ROM and Hardware!!!

thank you very much!i am about to buy the TYTN and i just wanted to know that i am making a good choice!thank you again!

As processor, XScale is clearly the best.
Samsung is slower while cheaper. Also Samsung lacks Wireless MMX instructions, thats why newest XScales of similar frequency outperform Samsungs almost 2x times in decoding video.
Stability have nothing to do with processor, its up to software & manufacturer. All processors are stable - thats, they work up to exact specifications. Its software that glitches, regardless of processor.
Before you buy TYTN (and any other device), look at corresponding forums for problems people experience.

well... wutt can I say mate?
for my use my vario II is speedy enough. have no probs at all. great device.

My Jasjam is more than fast enough.

I beleive he asked "what is the best", not "what is the good enough".
Though he should've asked in "general" forum
Even 200 MHz OMAP is good enough for a lot of people, considering its wonderful energy efficiency.

Thank you very much for your answers!i am gonna buy the TYTN!!!!!!

I agree with all of the above. I've got both, and although the A701 is fast out of the box, and can be overclocked, the Hermes is surprisingly fast - most users won't need to complain, so in real world usage you'll have no worries with either. But I'd go with the Hermes if you have to choose between the two phones, not the two processors.
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vijay555 said:
I agree with all of the above. I've got both, and although the A701 is fast out of the box, and can be overclocked, the Hermes is surprisingly fast - most users won't need to complain, so in real world usage you'll have no worries with either. But I'd go with the Hermes if you have to choose between the two phones, not the two processors.
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Yep .. you need to look at the entire package (best is TyTN) and see what you really need/like ... processor is just a part ..

thank you very much for your help!

Trinity Mainboard

FYI: Trinity mainboard

great job!! thanks

Superb !!
This ends many speculations and unclarities raised in the past

Great work!
Guys, what's that ATi chip in there? Does the Trinity have some sort of video acceleration?
That would be so awesome.

ATI The Imageon™ 2282
http://ati.amd.com/products/imageon2282/index.html

Guybrush said:
ATI The Imageon™ 2282
http://ati.amd.com/products/imageon2282/index.html
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Thanks for the link.
Probably a real rookie question but did any of the HTC phones before Trinity/Artemis (like Wizard) have a similar ATi-made processor or is this the first?
Videos were choppy at anything above 15fps for me on the Wizard.

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Videos were choppy at anything above 15fps for me on the Wizard.
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The Wizard has a 200MHz OMAP processor. The Trinity has a 400MHz Samsung CPU.

forcedalias said:
Thanks for the link.
Probably a real rookie question but did any of the HTC phones before Trinity/Artemis (like Wizard) have a similar ATi-made processor or is this the first?
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The Wizard was very slooooow in almost everything, however it became a little beter after several ROM updates. As far as I remember the Magician had also an ATI accelerator chip. Same for the HP HX4700 PDA, which was also made by HTC. So the concept is far from new.

Radio
I've seen a post indicating that the P3600 has the same FM Radio chip as the P3300, not being an expert do these image back this up ?
http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showpost.php?p=498824&postcount=63
http://www.solopalmari.com/images/stories/htc/artemis_trinity/p3600_gpsornot/msm6275b.gif
Why the hell doesn't HTC detail the capabilities with a big caveat about achievables ! People will purchase with a premise of what's going to come with a new ROM.

i didn't see FM radio chip on Trinity from motherboard pictures

sorry Guys no FM chip inside p3600, i had confirm from HTC

Can anyone confirm that the bluetooth chip is the Texas Instruments BRF6150?
I hope it is the same chip as the HTC Hermes.
Then there might come the possibility for Widcomm/Broadcomm bluetooth stack.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419

XenoV said:
The Wizard was very slooooow in almost everything, however it became a little beter after several ROM updates. As far as I remember the Magician had also an ATI accelerator chip. Same for the HP HX4700 PDA, which was also made by HTC. So the concept is far from new.
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The Magician did NOT have a graphics chip, ATI or otherwise. Like you said, the concept is far from new, but has not been used very often (at least in phone edition PDAs).
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianHardwareOverview

HELP with HTC P3600 - no Switch
It`s change with a new psot

Important Note!!!! re Charmer

Don't forget folks that though this section is dedicated to the Charmar aka Compact II. Loads of useful information, tips and tricks can be found also under the Magician and Wizard forums. These devices also use the TI Omap processor. So after requesting this sub category lets get using it....

this thread is about tips, and tricks?
my first thing, what I am made with my compact II was, that i install useful app "BatteryStatus" and set my procesor on 286mhz
compact is faster now, then last times

Thanks Speedy but 286 seems a lot faster than the recommended maximun to push the CPU..The agreed max appears to be around the 245 mark. Is your device functioning correctly..not resetting itself or anything? thanks John.

bigger ram?

can i install a 128mb ram in my magician?

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What's mean ??

oh ...I konw .
Yes, You Can。
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/OGm651pT_pg/
The principle is the same.

i think it's had more risk...

So, any one ever try it?
I think it's nice to have 128 MB of RAM in Magician

I doubt very many people could pull it off. The guy in the video makes it look easier than it really is. I tried BGA soldering with a heat gun before and it was almost impossible to get it aligned just right. It kept wanting to move, and with these BGA's even half a millimeter off is too much.

what a risk factor in your phone... but what ive heard there are some htc magician that has a 128 mb ram... i dunno which part of the country

Qtek s110 is what you mean?

well see this
Code:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.jianghu.taobao.com%2Fu%2FNDkxOTAxNjk%3D%2Fblog%2Fblog_detail.htm%3Faid%3D22782177&sl=auto&tl=en

Mod. edit: not accessories related, moved to general

Good idea! must try this!