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Is this a deal breaker for anyone?
http://androidcommunity.com/sprint-evo-4g-wont-do-simultaneous-voice-data-20100329/
I think it's only a big deal in Iphone commercials
Well I guess 4g data and 3g talk is a go not sure how to change the thread title. PM me if you know how.
if this holds up it is not cool. Ive been drooling over this phone for 2 weeks, but with this question in the back of my mind the whole time. ive been an AT&T customer for 5+ years and didnt even know this was an issue untill AT&T came out with the commercials a while back. I was like "what, not everyone can do this??"
I read online that this is not a hardware limitation and could be fixed with a future OTA update.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-clarifies-voice-data-evo-4g
Voice + Wifi = Yes.
Voice + 3G = No.
Voice + 4G = TBD, testing.
I actually never realized I couldn't use data while talking until those commercials ... and I've been using Sprint pda-phones since 2001.
Sprint tweeted that it's still testing so it's possible by the time the phone is released we will be able to do both. But frankly 4g is in so few areas that I doubt it's going to make much of a diff to most ppl. It will be good for the hotspot feature.
can someone name a use for using data while on a call?
I've use Voice and Data at the same time all the time on my G1. I'm either talking to my wife and she needs directions or a phone number and I look it up using Google Maps. Really easy and fast.
Yea AT&T isn't the only one that can do it. I do it on T-Mobile all the time with my Nexus, used to do it with my G1. I'm on a phone call and I get a text. I'm on the phone and I can just launch my browser or Google Maps or Gmail right away and do whatever I want, pretty cool.
Actually Sprint and Verizon can do SMS and voice at the same time too. It's voice and data that they can't handle.
I guess it helps working in the tech industry, if I ever get a call I'm usually around a computer which is faster for looking stuff up anyways...
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can someone name a use for using data while on a call?
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REALLY? many uses but here is one: my phone is tethered to my laptop. a phone call comes in i am in the middle of sending out emails to clients i can talk and do that at the same time but on sprint you cant. basically tons of reason when im on the phone with someone and a topic comes up i may Google it while we are talking. What do you use your phone for?
You must be a very busy person. Emailing while talking to people at the same time, also that the email must go out immediately during the call instead of after. Must be like a CEO of some company or something =P
I guess I must be getting old, I use my phone for talking on the phone, and when I'm not talking I'm doing the other stuff on it... I'm sorry if that was surprising to hear I was questioning what others are doing while they're talking.
I somewhat laughed at the att&t commercial when a person popped out and downloaded monopoly while talking to someone... are people so uninteresting that you must entertain yourself while you talk to them? And why didn't he just download it before... I don't know, it just seems like a gimmick to me, I can honestly say I've never wished I had that functionality. I guess that's why I asked.
its not a deal breaker for me but honestly if I'm in the car I tend to turn gps on just because I'm a nerd and like looking at new places or not having to find a way looking at traffic and such. and when I'm going to new places I tend to GPS it and not being able to make or take a call when I'm on the road with a chance of losing my barrings is well, bad.
I just realized, idk if other phones use data and voice for video calling but with it being a front facing camera for video calling, I would think they will def offer the data+voice.
-Charlie
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You must be a very busy person. Emailing while talking to people at the same time, also that the email must go out immediately during the call instead of after. Must be like a CEO of some company or something =P
I guess I must be getting old, I use my phone for talking on the phone, and when I'm not talking I'm doing the other stuff on it... I'm sorry if that was surprising to hear I was questioning what others are doing while they're talking.
I somewhat laughed at the att&t commercial when a person popped out and downloaded monopoly while talking to someone... are people so uninteresting that you must entertain yourself while you talk to them? And why didn't he just download it before... I don't know, it just seems like a gimmick to me, I can honestly say I've never wished I had that functionality. I guess that's why I asked.
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yes i do run two companies and i am on the phone for an hour at a time during conference calls that can get boring.
Not even a bother for me and has never been in my 11 yrs on Sprint.
I have a Verizon Blackberry as my company phone and AT&T as a personal phone. The only time not being able to use data and voice at the same time is waiting for an email to send or recieve. It has never been a big issue for me. Annoying sometimes.
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can someone name a use for using data while on a call?
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Anyone that likes to do 3 things at once, like myself, would really like this feature!!! I assume Sprint will realize that this is important to people and enable it on 4G only. Technically / theoretically no barrier exists and the hardware and software could be designed to support this feature going forward... I guess we need to wait to see what Sprint decides to do. Please don't be penny wise & pound foolish Sprint, yeah I know... wishful thinking!!!!
It's a big difference between GSM and CDMA, GSM can do voice + data, but CDMA can not
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its not a deal breaker for me but honestly if I'm in the car I tend to turn gps on just because I'm a nerd and like looking at new places or not having to find a way looking at traffic and such. and when I'm going to new places I tend to GPS it and not being able to make or take a call when I'm on the road with a chance of losing my barrings is well, bad.
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I thought I was the only geek doing this.
I don't need for my phone to be able to do both at the same time but, heck, I joined this forum to make my phone do things it wasn't originally supposed to be able to do.
Since it was mentioned that this is a software issue, it would only be a matter of time before someone could get it to work.
Was just at the store aaking about exchanging my SGS, and the rep told me they were not allowed to exchange phones for lack of recovery anymore, since all curent models do it.
But, she also said that Samsung knows about the problem, that it is well documented, and that a rom update will be out soon to fix it. She said it may ship with the froyo update.
She semed to know what she was talking about and said this came from the Samsung rep, so I think it is legit
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i hope it's true.
that wil save a lot of trouble for a lot of people
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Was just at the store aaking about exchanging my SGS, and the rep told me they were not allowed to exchange phones for lack of recovery anymore, since all curent models do it.
But, she also said that Samsung knows about the problem, that it is well documented, and that a rom update will be out soon to fix it. She said it may ship with the froyo update.
She semed to know what she was talking about and said this came from the Samsung rep, so I think it is legit
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With the rate that Samsung's dragging its feet for fixing other issues with the galaxy s line, I'm glad I just got a straight refund for mine last week. Waited quite a long time for the SGS to be available in Canada, but now I'm kind of wondering if I should wait longer for HTC's next super phone.
Think they really need to crank up their bug fix team. Many people got burnt by them not updating older phones, but with the number of sales they have with the S, it really could hurt their mobile sales for years to come if they let things slide.
Raise the BS flag!
i'll only move back to HTC if they include SAMOLED
Samsung is not dragging their feet have you looked at the x10 or the htc magic? Samsung has already put out a update for the bell model i9000m just 1 week after the phone came out.. thats fast.
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Samsung is not dragging their feet have you looked at the x10 or the htc magic? Samsung has already put out a update for the bell model i9000m just 1 week after the phone came out.. thats fast.
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Yes, the phone's been out for 1 week here in Canada, but in other parts of the world, it's been out for 2 months. And still no solid fix for the GPS. Go check out the GPS thread @ the phandoid forums to see how many times a phantom update was supposed to fix that issue.
I really did love my S, but I can live without a smart phone under all the issues are worked out. I'm a pessimist by nature, but I am hoping to be pleasantly surprised with all kinds of fixes and an on schedule froyo release.
PS, might want to look at the behold II, you know the phone that they said it would be upgraded to 2.x in their promotional video, then said 1.6 is as far as they were going to go just as the S was announced? heheh
Hmm that's weird.
I just exchanged mine this afternoon at Yonge and Dundas in Toronto and I wasn't even asked any questions. The manager said they were aware of the problem and that the new batch was working so it was exchanged on the spot. No mention of waiting for updates...
My new one works perfectly.
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Yes, the phone's been out for 1 week here in Canada, but in other parts of the world, it's been out for 2 months. And still no solid fix for the GPS. Go check out the GPS thread @ the phandoid forums to see how many times a phantom update was supposed to fix that issue.
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The GPS is fixed with the new ROM.... check the threads. I can attest to it it locks much faster and is much more accurate now.
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Hmm that's weird.
I just exchanged mine this afternoon at Yonge and Dundas in Toronto and I wasn't even asked any questions. The manager said they were aware of the problem and that the new batch was working so it was exchanged on the spot. No mention of waiting for updates...
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To me, this just further confirms that a fix is coming. If it is fixed in new batches, then an updated SPL will be out shortly, or shipped with Froyo. It would not make sense to not ship it because it would just end up to more warranty returns due to bricked upgrades.
cool, hope they fix this soon!
just for the record, it's not just the Bell model
i9000 from other countries have having the same problem, and it's also not all the units, just some units
seems like they have some one sleeping in Samsung's QA department.
otherwise there is no explanation why some units of the same batch are fine, yet some units are missing the 3 buttons modes
And someone from futureshop was even arguing with me that bell did that to avoid rooting it
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And someone from futureshop was even arguing with me that bell did that to avoid rooting it
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LOL
some one tried to tell me the same on wireless wave
"samsung caught up on the problem, all new phones comes without it"
then i made them pull out a newer box, and ta da... it worked
the girl was left (speechless)
the first one i tried had an older date in the box
Any new updates about this fix?...
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Any new updates about this fix?...
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the 3 button fix is already in the DEV sub forum of SGS
find it and install it
I love my Evo. Main reason? Personalization, flashing custom roms, flashing fonts, etc. My knowledge of development ain't that great though and I'm wondering from those "in the know": Do you think we'll access root and be able to flash custom roms?
For me, this is the best tablet b/c it runs android. I don't mind the price, I just want to be able to do what I want to the device Opinions?
I wouldn't doubt it. In fact, I expect it. I don't think there are any android devices that haven't been rooted. Just have to give it time once it's released.
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I wouldn't doubt it. In fact, I expect it. I don't think there are any android devices that haven't been rooted. Just have to give it time once it's released.
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Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?
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Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?
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Ditto
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Whats the deal with the locked bootloader on some Moto devices? I hear the term but I'm not familiar with what it means (EVO owner). I assumed it had to do with not being able flash ROM's and/or root. Can anybody explain?
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That's about all it is. They shut down any access to the loader which means you can get around to install anything. Most of motos new phones are this way. Its a kick in the nards but it protects their hardware from stuff like overclocking and burning out stuff. And of course the occasional brick.
I hate it but I see the point. And I can see the xoom being locked....little expensive for them to have to keep taking back because a new rooter f'ed theirs up.
Hmmm. Though I don't see custom ROMs being as necessary, that actually gives me a touch of pause. I don't like to think that the life of the device can't be extended if Motorola created a XOOM 2 or something.
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Hmmm. Though I don't see custom ROMs being as necessary, that actually gives me a touch of pause. I don't like to think that the life of the device can't be extended if Motorola created a XOOM 2 or something.
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I don't think the hardware spec as is will get outdated anytime soon.
Well..outdated yes, regress into unusable for web, video and apps.. certainly not.
The device per the data sheet will still run things quite well as we know them now for a very long time.
Only thing yet to be really proven is how teg2 can handle intensive 3d functions in 'real world' scenarios.. and if you think Crysis will be better played on a tablet I have a bridge for sale.
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I don't think the hardware spec as is will get outdated anytime soon.
Well..outdated yes, regress into unusable for web, video and apps.. certainly not.
The device per the data sheet will still run things quite well as we know them now for a very long time.
Only thing yet to be really proven is how teg2 can handle intensive 3d functions in 'real world' scenarios.. and if you think Crysis will be better played on a tablet I have a bridge for sale.
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I know the hardware won't be outdated, I'm talking about all the obsolete android phones because their OEMs abandoned them and they never got FroYo. I think if it ends up being locked down I might have to utilize Best Buy's new return policy on the 28th day.
The Atrix has already been rooted:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/19/motorola-atrix-4g-already-rooted-and-its-not-even-out-yet/
I wouldn't be shock if Motorola backs off the boot loader block. Pretty funny huh. I was talking to the guys in best buy mobile and they claimed it was verizon that was locking down the boot loaders. Of course these are the same guys who were shocked when I told them I had a OC nook color w/ froyo and honeycomb.
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The Atrix has already been rooted:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/19/motorola-atrix-4g-already-rooted-and-its-not-even-out-yet/
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Until I see the bootloader rooted, I say meh.
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I wouldn't be shock if Motorola backs off the boot loader block. Pretty funny huh. I was talking to the guys in best buy mobile and they claimed it was verizon that was locking down the boot loaders. Of course these are the same guys who were shocked when I told them I had a OC nook color w/ froyo and honeycomb.
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Shame on you for talking to BB employees about anything technical. No hate, but most of them are morons.
It just makes me laugh when I talk to people like that. Being an electronics technician I do it sometimes just to see what chunks of stupid come out of their mouths.
Since the Xoom is intended to be the reference development tablet platform by Google, it should be easy to root and has an easy to unlock bootloader, just like the Nexus One and Nexus S.
That being said, Motorola is Motorola... so they may do their usual Motorola thing and encrypt everything up. But I think the chance that the Xoom is easy to mess around with is pretty high.
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Since the Xoom is intended to be the reference development tablet platform by Google, it should be easy to root and has an easy to unlock bootloader, just like the Nexus One and Nexus S.
That being said, Motorola is Motorola... so they may do their usual Motorola thing and encrypt everything up. But I think the chance that the Xoom is easy to mess around with is pretty high.
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This is what I'm banking on. But if it turns out being locked down. I will be sending an e-mail to Motorola and Google with a picture of my return receipt and an explanation.
I went to my local best buy today. I got there around noonish and I was the first and only person to pre order or even ask about the xoom.
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I went to my local best buy today. I got there around noonish and I was the first and only person to pre order or even ask about the xoom.
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Same with me. Infact im not even sure im going to get the damn thing. They were so unorganized and unprepared. I NEVER go on websites and do the ratings but for this i did. It was a horrible experience trying to get this thing pre ordered. 3 of the techs had to talk to each other to figure out what i was asking for. I didnt think the statement "i would like to pre order the motorola xoom" was all that confusing. I never shop at best buy but being as inpatient as i am i took the risk to get my hands on this thing as fast as possible. I just hope i get a call once they come in. As it looked im going to be the only call they have to make.
Did anyone else get a copy of their preorder or just a receipt?
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Same with me. Infact im not even sure im going to get the damn thing. They were so unorganized and unprepared. I NEVER go on websites and do the ratings but for this i did. It was a horrible experience trying to get this thing pre ordered. 3 of the techs had to talk to each other to figure out what i was asking for. I didnt think the statement "i would like to pre order the motorola xoom" was all that confusing. I never shop at best buy but being as inpatient as i am i took the risk to get my hands on this thing as fast as possible. I just hope i get a call once they come in. As it looked im going to be the only call they have to make.
Did anyone else get a copy of their preorder or just a receipt?
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All i got is my receipt that says Motorola Xoom pre order and I have that $50 gift card. I was the 4th to pre order
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All i got is my receipt that says Motorola Xoom pre order and I have that $50 gift card. I was the 4th to pre order
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Thats all i have also. The confusion among the techs had me skeptical. Hopefully my skepticism doesnt hold to be true.
Also praying for no locked bootloader. Hoping to be rooted within the first few days
All I got was the receipt and the gift card as well. Got to our BB ~1300 to place the order and was the first to actually place an order, as opposed to people asking questions about it. Course our BB is in a town of ~50,000 (metro area ~150,000) so I was a little concerned they would even get any in for Thursday, they say they are indeed due in this week.
Did see the preorder paperwork she filled out.
Like above, they didn't know what they were looking for. The girl found it without too much wait though.
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All I got was the receipt and the gift card as well. Got to our BB ~1300 to place the order and was the first to actually place an order, as opposed to people asking questions about it. Course our BB is in a town of ~50,000 (metro area ~150,000) so I was a little concerned they would even get any in for Thursday, they say they are indeed due in this week.
Did see the preorder paperwork she filled out.
Like above, they didn't know what they were looking for. The girl found it without too much wait though.
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Yep, ran into the same problem. The guy had no clue, the female was all over it. She knew exactly what I was asking for, went right to the pre-order sheet and got it done lickity split and she was hot to.
im done trying to help people that are ungrateful and trolls. thank you for the kind words in this thread, i am not closing it because of you.
Agreed
I definitely agree with your statements. The only thing is my signal bounces around even while on an Airave or Airavana. I verified it was not the Airavana or airave because my wifes Evo always has a consistent signal.
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I definitely agree with your statements. The only thing is my signal bounces around even while on an Airave or Airavana. I verified it was not the Airavana or airave because my wifes Evo always has a consistent signal.
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see mine still gets slow data but i have perfect 4 bars with my airrave. outside of that the signal is in and out all day long.
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I emailed a link of your video to all the sprint executive email addresses. Lets see if anything happens.....
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I emailed a link of your video to all the sprint executive email addresses. Lets see if anything happens.....
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thanks for that!
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I emailed a link of your video to all the sprint executive email addresses. Lets see if anything happens.....
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Did you send it to Google? It's their phone...
And to the OP: I'm sorry you're having issues. I'm not experiencing any of those issues.
Well said. I'm new to the whole Android experience,
but am no stranger to expecting quality out of my investments. I'll continue to try to help the cause with you, seeing as how I'm going to have to get along with this phone for the next two years, being a college student and all. I, for one, appreciate you being outspoken about it, as silence has rarely solves anything.
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Thanks... bbl
I'm with you a 100%. I tried to ingore the reception issues and put my faith in a ota. But the fact is my 30 day clock is coming ahead. I'm thinking about exchanging to motorola xoom tablet and call it a day. I love my nexus s 4g, it a phone I can keep for a 12 months or more and that's rare for me.
I'm calling sprint soon for a exchange my 1st.
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I'm gonna tweet this to google nexus.
update: just tweeted the vid to google and told em that I'm gonna take it back if nothing is addressed before my 30 days are up. even if it's samsung/sprint's issue, its still google's product and i know google can sway BOTH companies if they wanted to. I REALLY REALLY don't wanna jump to the EVO 3D!!!
great video man. I'm glad that someone is deciding to step up about this. I purchased the phone just this evening and I'm already noticing that the radio is a little iffy. Not to mention I haven't been able to send a single text message since the damn thing was activated! (i'm hoping that that is a seperate issue that will be resolved with time)
WE CANNOT KEEP QUIET ABOUT THIS
I'm going to post this video on nexus s facebook and google also
Fixxxer, I've seen you on the forums being outspoken about this issue and I'm with you 100%. My wifi and 3g signals are atrocious. Constantly losing signals or very weak signals comparable to EDGE speeds.
Google has dropped the ball on this in my opinion. It is Google's phone and their name and reputation stands behind it and for them to not offer some sort of official statement acknowledging the widespread issue people are having (and no, not some random Google employee on their forum saying it is being looked into) is a disservice to the customers that support them.
One thing I cannot fault is people being brand loyal to Apple and their iPhone because they get 1st class service and immediate official responses while Nexus adopters have no clue who to contact for answers. Sprint and Samsung are clueless and only advice is to return it for an exchange or send you an airave.
Google, it is your phone. Do something about it!
thanks for the kind words guys. it's a shame there are still a few out there that seem to want us to just keep quiet about this. maybe they are afraid it will ruin the rep of the nexus s? look what the evo3d users got after being very vocal to htc.
as ive said before they have made no public announcements of a fix, anything you read on a forum about a fix unless from a credible source is BS.
It makes me sad you guys are having issues with this awesome phone.
I really hope it can be fixed. What I don't understand is that my GSM Nexus S seems to have an amazing antenna, and gets service where other T-Mobile phones don't.
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i got a response back from samsung about my youtube video... they claim they are unaware of the issue and that they want me to send them my phone for testing. samsung is totally clueless to our problems people. we need to push harder here.
i guess we just don't have the fanbase the evo line has. i give htc props for responding to the mass yesterday. at least they will get what they demanded.
well i was hoping my video would make a dent but it's not so far. the sprint forums has pretty much died off to a stand still right now. im not sure what else i can do for us? maybe it's just time to throw in the towel and exchange for another phone.
im open to ideas guys.
things..
things usually take longer than over night to become wide spread
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well i was hoping my video would make a dent but it's not so far. the sprint forums has pretty much died off to a stand still right now. im not sure what else i can do for us? maybe it's just time to throw in the towel and exchange for another phone.
im open to ideas guys.
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I think it is Google you need to be communicating with about it, since it is a Nexus phone.
Google did mention they were going to do some testing:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=72cde4a29b9021c3&hl=en
I don't think there is going to be a quick fix, it is going to take time for a software update to roll out.
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I think it is Google you need to be communicating with about it, since it is a Nexus phone.
Google did mention they were going to do some testing:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=72cde4a29b9021c3&hl=en
I don't think there is going to be a quick fix, it is going to take time for a software update to roll out.
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samsung already sent me an email this morning, they are unaware of these mass issues. they are the ones who write the radios, not google.
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lol it is widespread already.
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samsung already sent me an email this morning, they are unaware of these mass issues. they are the ones who write the radios, not google.
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But it is a Google supported phone, yes it seems to have something to do with the radios but it could very well be with how the Android OS is interacting with them. It would make sense to start with Google and then Google do their testing and go to Samsung if needed.
Warning!! I just came across this at work when my co-worker asked me to set up his phone. I realized something was wrong when I saw the screen and size of this note 4. I decided to show it off for those who is considering picking up one from ebay or Craigslist. See the comparison from a real note 4 and see for yourself. There's no real difference w/ the software but the hardware might be a concern since the battery(charger) is not Original it might blow-up or melt. The fake one is really flaky and has weird random vibration and I would not recommend using it at ALL!!
As far as I can tell, that's an N910F, which is the Note 4 for most of Europe (and I believe is Exynos based) so it's not fake, just not US market.
You're are correct one the version. It's a custom rom from the international version. But...see attachment of the cpu spec from cpu z. Also, did you see the back panel w the battery? The fake have obvious over paint...
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You're are correct one the version. It's a custom rom from the international version. But...see attachment of the cpu spec from cpu z. Also, did you see the back panel w the battery? The fake have obvious over paint...
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I saw that, but it's possible for someone to paint a device. That doesn't mean it's fake.
Now the CPU showing up as a Mediatek is suspect, but still not conclusive I don't think as software can be wrong. Regardless, the buyer didn't get what they thought they were getting.
Yea, more and more fakes are popping up. I just remember watching this video where he bought a fake. There will always be a good counterfeit and an even better one.
Testing Wacom digitizer is probably one of better tests. Knocks off using much cheaper digitizer and button on pen doesnt work.
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I see these kinds of fakes at work all the time, and they're getting better & better. That MOLY baseband gives it away every time though.
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Yea, more and more fakes are popping up. I just remember watching this video where he bought a fake. There will always be a good counterfeit and an even better one.
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Yeah, this phone had the Chinese letter in recovery as the vid you posted. The S-Pen is a total fake...haha. Under the battery there's no sticker at all.
That is definantly a fake i came across a couple of them.people were trying to passoff asreal note 4s
What type of world do we survive in where people are so evil and selfish they try and pass of fake devices as real devices this is ad homien /s
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Just for curiosity i wonder how it performs. Maybe some people here would be happier with this device, if it gets ? first ?
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What type of world do we survive in where people are so evil and selfish they try and pass of fake devices as real devices this is ad homien /s
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Tell me about it...I was suspicious right away compared to my co-worker who didn't even have a clue of how it was "fake" he asked me how I know and I showed him these photo. It's sad people take advantage of other who isn't knowledge of these stuff.
jonahtriangle said:
Just for curiosity i wonder how it performs. Maybe some people here would be happier with this device, if it gets first
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IT'S UTTER CRAP!!! The response time is slow...definitely not as a real note 4. The screen is flaky and you need to press hard or couple of time to get any response from the LCD. Also, I noticed it heated up when I put in the charger. Wouldn't trust this crap charging on my night stand.
bipoler said:
What type of world do we survive in where people are so evil and selfish they try and pass of fake devices as real devices this is ad homien /s
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Unfortunately it doesn't surprise me in the slightest. People are awful and they'll do anything for a buck, including preying on people's innocence.
We still sell these at my work whenever we get them in, but we put it in big bold letters in the auction- this is a clone, not a real Samsung phone- just so people know exactly what they're buying.
I came across one too. The S-Pen, the thin battery, the light/low-volt charger was a quick way for me to notice some thing was not right.
On the OP picture of the back, you can also tell the heart rate sensor looks different.
Pedro2NR said:
I came across one too. The S-Pen, the thin battery, the light/low-volt charger was a quick way for me to notice some thing was not right.
On the OP picture of the back, you can also tell the heart rate sensor looks different.
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That's correct! The S-Pen was such a dead give away....can't believe it haha
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We still sell these at my work whenever we get them in, but we put it in big bold letters in the auction- this is a clone, not a real Samsung phone- just so people know exactly what they're buying.
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I'm sure many of these are sold on the run. Like off the street and craigslist. They'll run away with your money.
Someone tried this on my girlfriend. I ended up beating the shiit out of him than i threw the note in a puddle. Lol got me so heated.
Wow, that's crazy. That's not a clone, that's a counterfeit! ?
And I'd say 99% of people (buyers) would never know it was not authentic!
You would have to be phone savvy to realize it wasn't genuine. ??
To me the biggest giveaway for fake Galaxy phones is always the screen.
Amoled screens are always dark looking when the phone is turned off. If the screen isn't dark (almost pitch black) when turned off 9/10 times it is a fake or possibly a real one Galaxy that could of had screen damage and was replaced with a fake screen.
Check the side by side pic comparison the OP posted.
egren58 said:
Someone tried this on my girlfriend. I ended up beating the shiit out of him than i threw the note in a puddle. Lol got me so heated.
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You didn't touch that guy I was there sitting in the parking lot on break at my job, stop perpetrating online lol aahahahaaha oh no a thug post
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