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Quadrant score for galaxy s running froyo

I got 1932
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Without any lagfix?!

You should really give more detail, which lagfix if there was one or just stock froyo from Samsung?

leoon said:
Without any lagfix?!
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No, I'm sure he's got OCLF. Without lagfix froyo isn't any quickier than eclair as of now. Actually, it's slower. I used to get 2200 points with JM9 + OCLF. Now with JP6 + OCLF i get 1850p.

aitzo said:
No, I'm sure he's got OCLF. Without lagfix froyo isn't any quickier than eclair as of now. Actually, it's slower. I used to get 2200 points with JM9 + OCLF. Now with JP6 + OCLF i get 1850p.
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Yeah that's what I thought, though I don't know why people post like he does there is no point to it, in no way does it help benifit the community.

aitzo said:
No, I'm sure he's got OCLF. Without lagfix froyo isn't any quickier than eclair as of now. Actually, it's slower. I used to get 2200 points with JM9 + OCLF. Now with JP6 + OCLF i get 1850p.
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Do you mean it's slower, or rather that it gets a lower Quadrant score? Those are two entirely different statements. I realize the OP mentions Quadrant scores specifically and I apologize for sort of imposing my opinion, but such benchmarks, especially with such little score difference and such major operating system differences, do not tell you a whole lot at all.
One separate test of Quadrant might bottleneck the entire score, even when all other parts of the system are much faster. Just look at how a simple 'lag fix' suggests the phone is twice as fast (quadrant goes from 1k to 2k) which of course, is not the case. Also look at how Cyanogen gets a 3K score with a simple hack, where the phone speed was barely altered.
So I am curious about real world performances:
Do you still get lags on Froyo?
Does the GPS take only a few seconds to get a fix?
Does it launch apps almost instantly stock or with some lag fix?
Does it feel ultra responsive, as should be the result of using a JIT compiler?
Does it render webpages faster than iPhone 4 like the Nexus One, like it should?
Does it still run actual applications, such as Quake 3, faster than any HTC despite their higher Linpack scores, and is there an increase in FPS since Eclair?
Would love to hear about this!

Do you still get lags on Froyo?
- I think it lags more than last eclair builds
Does the GPS take only a few seconds to get a fix?
- Same as JM9. Haven't played with gps in outdoors so can't be specific with fix times
Does it launch apps almost instantly stock or with some lag fix?
- Same as JM9, or slower. Lagfix makes it ok.
Does it feel ultra responsive, as should be the result of using a JIT compiler?
- No, even though others have said that JIT is on.
Does it render webpages faster than iPhone 4 like the Nexus One, like it should?
- Webpages are ultra laggy when there is flash content
Does it still run actual applications, such as Quake 3, faster than any HTC despite their higher Linpack scores, and is there an increase in FPS since Eclair?
- Don't know

nin2thevoid said:
So I am curious about real world performances:
1 Do you still get lags on Froyo?
2 Does the GPS take only a few seconds to get a fix?
3 Does it launch apps almost instantly stock or with some lag fix?
4 Does it feel ultra responsive, as should be the result of using a JIT compiler?
5 Does it render webpages faster than iPhone 4 like the Nexus One, like it should?
6 Does it still run actual applications, such as Quake 3, faster than any HTC despite their higher Linpack scores, and is there an increase in FPS since Eclair?
Would love to hear about this!
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1: yes (when no lagfix applied)
2: yes <5s on warm start, <30s on cold start
3: yes with lagfix only
4:i don't think thats the result of the compiler, just the lagfix but yes, and the JIT does make things a little faster overall
5: no the browser is a bit slow i don't know why. Even Fennec alpha is much faster.
6: yes Q3 is extremely smooth, full details + lightmap, getting 56-60fps (=FPS cap on the SGS), it never slows down
Note that Q3 is using the NDK as in native app. I don't know if Linpack tests native code.

Do you still get lags on Froyo?
Not that i've noticed but I will be installing Voodoo anways.
Does the GPS take only a few seconds to get a fix?
GPS is A LOT better.
Does it launch apps almost instantly stock or with some lag fix?
Certain Apps launch almost instantly where others take a few seconds such as PikPok Games, Fruit Ninja, etc.
Does it feel ultra responsive, as should be the result of using a JIT compiler?
Seems fast to me but only as it's a new install will wait a few days, plus I install Voodoo's fix anyway for the screen fixes too.
Does it render webpages faster than iPhone 4 like the Nexus One, like it should?
No, we have flash it's more demanding but you can set it to be on demand then its just on par with them no major difference.
Does it still run actual applications, such as Quake 3, faster than any HTC despite their higher Linpack scores, and is there an increase in FPS since Eclair?
Not sure but all games i've played are smooth without a hiccup.
hope this helps
1000 in Quadrant and 14 in Linpack

New Froyo+OCLF = 1722 Quadrant
No problems. Gps, camera,market... all is ok.

How are you guys getting such a large score? I'm getting about 1000 and it shows the Samsung Galaxy S on the graph even less (I assumed 1000ish was better than the average score). Or am I using some newer version of the app?? :/

XXJPK with OCLF
I've tested 3 times with Quadrant. Scores: 1550, 1764, 1995.
Phone works much faster after OCLF.
I takes 2 seconds to open a book in Aldiko instead 10.

My galaxy s with froyo, one click root and one click lag fix scores 2029. If i could post a url of the picture i would, but i'm not allowed

ive tried jp6 and jpm and not impressed with either. still getting some lag, even when switching home screens with a live wallpaper.

If you use oclf with quadrant you want get a real result.
What i understand it's one database test that is not real.
It don't do it right. The result is that it seems faster then it is.
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My quadrant bench mark is 2017.
I've got JPK, OCLF v2.2 and SETCPU installed.

If anybody is interested in a little comparison to the HTC Desire:
1550 on LeeDroid 2.2f (Froyo) with OC to 1153 MHz. Some got speeds upto 1700 with more overclocking, but that'll heat up the phone beyond healthy values, I guess. Do not want to put in a fan there .
So with some optimizations like lag fix and file system enhancement the Galaxy S is a really fast Smartphone indeed, let alone the 3D graphic performance. Cudos!

[Q] Overclocking w/ NAND Desire HD/Z builds

Has anyone else noticed that when using NAND Desire HD/Z sense builds that their phone seems to run more smoothly after the 1st day or two running at stock speeds than it does when running overclocked?
I was getting a bit of lag here and there, and as expected after having streamed music literally all night via wifi the phone was a real dog first thing in the morning until the memory cleared out.
I noticed after a couple of days my phone would spontaneously reboot - I was overclocking to 1.5ghz using MDJ's 10.3OC kernel, so I figured that it was the overclock causing the reboot - sure enough the phone runs smooth as glass now that I've throttled it back to 1ghz (interactive governor).
Is it just my imagination?

It is hard to say really, as you will have different apps, widgets and syncs set up to me, plus we are running different builds, thus a direct comparison is very hard.
All that matters is what works for YOU.
FYI I don't find any meaningful benefit by overclocking. So I don't bother. I haven't really noticed a speed difference either way. If however it made a positive difference, I would.
Just for the record, benchmarking and Quadrant scores are nothing more than a waste of time and are only useful for arguments starting with the words "Mine is better than yours because...".

Curiousity always gets me to run Quadrant, but having seen varied phones with roller-coaster scores, I know the scores are not really any kind of valid gauge for real world performance.
I'm going to run my phone at stock speeds for the rest of the week and see how it does. I've got a feeling it will be running a lot smoother.

[Q] Clock widgets and home screen lag

I have been trying a number of clock widgets lately, and they all seem to make scrolling between home screens lag a bit. I am currently using Simi widget and cm7 rc1, and when I drag over to the screen that has the widget on it, the dragging motion gets choppy.
I know this is a minoor complaint, given that the overall performance of this phone is stellar, but it still gets to me. Does everybody else get this to a noticeable degree? I can see why some lag is to be expected, but are some widgets better than others?

Hmmm another vague post. Which kernel and what rom? run it at 1017mhz using interactive and you won't have any lag matter of fact I tested it on 368mhz, 768mhz and still no lag in my end set at ondemand.

BlackSHELF said:
Hmmm another vague post. Which kernel and what rom? run it at 1017mhz using interactive and you won't have any lag matter of fact I tested it on 368mhz, 768mhz and still no lag in my end set at ondemand.
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I mentioned in the post that I am using CM7 RC1, and I am using whichever kernel comes with it. I will try fiddling with setcpu settings to see if I can get an improvement.
I turned on the adw scrolling cache, which most people recommend not doing, but I think it may have made things smoother.

beelbeel said:
I mentioned in the post that I am using CM7 RC1, and I am using whichever kernel comes with it. I will try fiddling with setcpu settings to see if I can get an improvement.
I turned on the adw scrolling cache, which most people recommend not doing, but I think it may have made things smoother.
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My bad confused you with the other guy who posted in this same section well ATM I manually removed ADW and replaced it with ADW Ex. But I tested it and do remember running it even at 368mhz with no lag. Revert back to the original setting and then use interactive governor beyond 768mhz depending on how intensive your widgets are. You can do it from CPU settings if you don't want to install SetCPU.

I'm using fancy widget for my clock. I don't see any lag between screens with it. I'm also using cpu tuner to set my profile triggers.
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[Q] Overclocking Question?

Hello.
I have a general question I have been searching for on Google and the forum here. I am wondering if someone could tell me some areas that I will notice the benefits of overclocking. What I mean is, I understand it speeds up the CPU, but other than running a quadrant score (which means nothing to me really) where would you see the results to the naked eye?
Since flashing Lightspeed ROM and using Thor's Kernals it does appear that my internet pages load faster and the boot animations load faster. I think it seems like my thumb keyboards pop up a slight bit faster as well.
Are these the noticeable changes? Or are they just in my head since I am overclocking? (OR I think I am)
I am using SetCPU and have the Max set to about 1.5 and the Min set to 1.0 or 1.2 most of the time.
If someone could weigh in with some more knowledgeable information and possibly point me to a nice write up for Noobs like me who are interested in learning more about the benefits of Overclocking as well as maybe a guide for advice using SetCPU (or another App?) that is more recommended by those on here, I would appreciate it!
Thanks!!

Mine's takes about 30 seconds to boot from vibrate to lock screen if that makes any difference. OC to 1.5 using taboonay 2.0 with HV 3.4 kernal.

Mine defiantly seems to boot up faster. I do not play a lot of game on the tab, mainly just internet and movies, so I am not sure I am doing anything that would require such an increase in graphics speed that I am noticing the major differences. Right now I have mine set to about 1.4 and it is very stable with no problems. If I go to 1.6 I notice things start FC'ing more often.

HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.

SoHaunted said:
HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.
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Thanks. I will have to take a look at that tomorrow when I am stuck on the plane for a few hours.

[Q] Serious Lag in Galaxy Note.

Has everybody encountered after doing some intensive stuff like doing AnTuTu benchmark, the phone abruptly slows down to a crawl where animations slow down like rotation being damn slow, swiping through screens also is slow, and games being damn slow. For instance, I ran AnTuTu benchmark and it won't go higher than 30FPS. where usually it's 40 - 60 FPS.
This is not the typical lag I encounter.
The only way to solve this is to restart the phone. Sometimes restarting the phone once is not enough.

This sounds fishy. Never happened to me before. Although will try again once I download Antutu.
Edit: Just checked... Ran Antutu. Got a score of 6474. Everything seems fine. After quitting Antutu, scrolled through the homescreens. Everything was smooth as before.
Edit2: Ran Antutu again & got a score of 6502. Tried playing ShadowGun immediately afterwards. It ran without any hiccups...
Currently on KL8.

Livewings said:
Has everybody encountered after doing some intensive stuff like doing AnTuTu benchmark, the phone abruptly slows down to a crawl where animations slow down like rotation being damn slow, swiping through screens also is slow, and games being damn slow. For instance, I ran AnTuTu benchmark and it won't go higher than 30FPS. where usually it's 40 - 60 FPS.
This is not the typical lag I encounter.
The only way to solve this is to restart the phone. Sometimes restarting the phone once is not enough.
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Turn off the power saving mode and you should notice a big improvement in lag.
I get around 56fps running AnTuTu with system power saving off.With power saving on,I only get 27fps.A big difference.

Could this be an overheating issue? Your cpu might be throttling coz of high temps.
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Raghav1980 said:
This sounds fishy. Never happened to me before. Although will try again once I download Antutu.
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This is not only because of AnTuTu, this only happens when I'm running an intensive app, where suddenly after exiting it will slow down to a crawl.
The most annoying part is the rotation animation. It is devastating slow.
noteworthy said:
Turn off the power saving mode and you should notice a big improvement in lag.
I get around 56fps running AnTuTu with system power saving off.With power saving on,I only get 27fps.A big difference.
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Power saving mode was never turned on at the first place.
pandey18 said:
Could this be an overheating issue? Your cpu might be throttling coz of high temps.
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I'm not sure because the phone also isn't hot at that time.

I haven't seen this issue either with benchmark apps or with intensive games. Might be an issue specific to your device. What rom is it running?

speedofheat said:
I haven't seen this issue either with benchmark apps or with intensive games. Might be an issue specific to your device. What rom is it running?
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I'm currently on ROMOW 5.1, previously using ROCKET ROM since V9.
I never had this issue on Stock ROM's.
Both custom ROM's I used had this issue.

Livewings said:
This is not only because of AnTuTu, this only happens when I'm running an intensive app, where suddenly after exiting it will slow down to a crawl.
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What sort of "intensive app"? Is it still running in the background?
If you have an app that uses a lot of memory, and then immediately try to use another memory intensive app, you may the OS begins to run low on memory as the garbage collector may not have run yet.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
What sort of "intensive app"? Is it still running in the background?
If you have an app that uses a lot of memory, and then immediately try to use another memory intensive app, you may the OS begins to run low on memory as the garbage collector may not have run yet.
Regards,
Dave
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After playing GTA 3, Modern Combat 3, Asphalt 6, I will have this issue.
Killing the tasks on task manager won't help, neither cleaning memory.

Same problem
I have exactly same problem, my phone starts to lag randomly example in browser.
First its super smooth and then suddenly it kind of turns off gpu acceleration and starts to lag.
Even cm9 alpha doesnt have this problem so it's wery strange issue. And its there on every phone my friend also noticed it.

this is an issue with mali driver on note.
the gpu clock have two clockspeed that is 160mhz and 267mhz.
during that time when u run the benchmark the gpu clock to 160 and only utilise half of the mali power.
this had been explained by tegrak, creator of tegrak app.
the only solution is reboot and rerun the test or flash fm 2.0 that is clock min to 200mhz or flash tegrak kernel (can find at tegrak 2nd core in android dev forum) and use tegrak overclock app to lock the gpu to 267mhz.

Livewings said:
I'm currently on ROMOW 5.1, previously using ROCKET ROM since V9.
I never had this issue on Stock ROM's.
Both custom ROM's I used had this issue.
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This is exactly I don't use ROMs other than CM. Eagerly waiting for CM9. Until then, I am happy with Stock.

deli_gt said:
I have exactlh same problem, my phone starts to lag randomly examble in browser.
First its super smoothand then suddenly it kind of turns off gpu acceleration and starts to lag.
Even cm9 alpha doesnt have this problem so it's wery strange issue. And its there on every phone my friend also noticed it.
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We don't have the same problem. The browser thing I think everyone has that problem. Mine is a rare issue where it affects the entire OS.
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this is an issue with mali driver on note.
the gpu clock have two clockspeed that is 160mhz and 267mhz.
during that time when u run the benchmark the gpu clock to 160 and only utilise half of the mali power.
this had been explained by tegrak, creator of tegrak app.
the only solution is reboot and rerun the test or flash fm 2.0 that is clock min to 200mhz or flash tegrak kernel (can find at tegrak 2nd core in android dev forum) and use tegrak overclock app to lock the gpu to 267mhz.
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Thank you, I believe you might be right. I'll try and report back.
Raghav1980 said:
This is exactly I don't use ROMs other than CM. Eagerly waiting for CM9. Until then, I am happy with Stock.
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CM9 is awesome, but I can't live without the video player.

It is same problem i have exactly same impact, everything becomes lagyer. Same thing with every note.
The browser was only sample where you can notice it.

I can hereby confirm that Tegrak Kernel Build 31 is able to resolve the issue after setting the minimum GPU clock to 267mhz on Overclock Ultimate.
FM Kernel 2.0 doesn't solve the issue.

Is the phone hot after running this intensive app? The Note will guard itself against high temps.

zlagger said:
Is the phone hot after running this intensive app? The Note will guard itself against high temps.
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One of my favorite things about the Note: No hotness!!! I had this issue all the time with the SGSII to the point that I couldn't hold it to me ear. My Note doesn't even get warm! So happy.

i am on a stock phone and seen enough force closures in the last week and more than enough in the last 48h. i was just showing my daughter the live wallpapers, so was just flipping through various ones, after flipping through them quickly and setting it, the phone froze, was not able to do anything for about half and hour as phone was booting and rebooting with me unable to even switch off the phone. luckily, at one point i just was able to change wall paper to the black wall paper available on the market and it sorted itself out. it has done this twice whle flipping through live wall papers quickly. the wll papers i was flipping through were flames, weather windmills, aquariium, 3d wall paper, most came with the phone with the exception of flames and black wallpaper.
the phone is fine now but OTG function is flaky, dont know if it is the connector, so have ordered a samsung otg from amazon now and will find out whether it is the phone or the cable.
the built in file manager has serious lag issues as it keeps 'processing' after changing every folder and have stopped using that now and use other free ad supported versions instead which have no problems. same with stock video player which keeps force closing often, so use mxplayer or dice player without issues.
an expensive phone like this should work stock apps fine and not require third party apps for video playing and file browsing etc. was on the verge of returning it when it froze but seems ok now.