Has everybody encountered after doing some intensive stuff like doing AnTuTu benchmark, the phone abruptly slows down to a crawl where animations slow down like rotation being damn slow, swiping through screens also is slow, and games being damn slow. For instance, I ran AnTuTu benchmark and it won't go higher than 30FPS. where usually it's 40 - 60 FPS.
This is not the typical lag I encounter.
The only way to solve this is to restart the phone. Sometimes restarting the phone once is not enough.
This sounds fishy. Never happened to me before. Although will try again once I download Antutu.
Edit: Just checked... Ran Antutu. Got a score of 6474. Everything seems fine. After quitting Antutu, scrolled through the homescreens. Everything was smooth as before.
Edit2: Ran Antutu again & got a score of 6502. Tried playing ShadowGun immediately afterwards. It ran without any hiccups...
Currently on KL8.
Livewings said:
Has everybody encountered after doing some intensive stuff like doing AnTuTu benchmark, the phone abruptly slows down to a crawl where animations slow down like rotation being damn slow, swiping through screens also is slow, and games being damn slow. For instance, I ran AnTuTu benchmark and it won't go higher than 30FPS. where usually it's 40 - 60 FPS.
This is not the typical lag I encounter.
The only way to solve this is to restart the phone. Sometimes restarting the phone once is not enough.
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Turn off the power saving mode and you should notice a big improvement in lag.
I get around 56fps running AnTuTu with system power saving off.With power saving on,I only get 27fps.A big difference.
Could this be an overheating issue? Your cpu might be throttling coz of high temps.
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Raghav1980 said:
This sounds fishy. Never happened to me before. Although will try again once I download Antutu.
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This is not only because of AnTuTu, this only happens when I'm running an intensive app, where suddenly after exiting it will slow down to a crawl.
The most annoying part is the rotation animation. It is devastating slow.
noteworthy said:
Turn off the power saving mode and you should notice a big improvement in lag.
I get around 56fps running AnTuTu with system power saving off.With power saving on,I only get 27fps.A big difference.
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Power saving mode was never turned on at the first place.
pandey18 said:
Could this be an overheating issue? Your cpu might be throttling coz of high temps.
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I'm not sure because the phone also isn't hot at that time.
I haven't seen this issue either with benchmark apps or with intensive games. Might be an issue specific to your device. What rom is it running?
speedofheat said:
I haven't seen this issue either with benchmark apps or with intensive games. Might be an issue specific to your device. What rom is it running?
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I'm currently on ROMOW 5.1, previously using ROCKET ROM since V9.
I never had this issue on Stock ROM's.
Both custom ROM's I used had this issue.
Livewings said:
This is not only because of AnTuTu, this only happens when I'm running an intensive app, where suddenly after exiting it will slow down to a crawl.
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What sort of "intensive app"? Is it still running in the background?
If you have an app that uses a lot of memory, and then immediately try to use another memory intensive app, you may the OS begins to run low on memory as the garbage collector may not have run yet.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
What sort of "intensive app"? Is it still running in the background?
If you have an app that uses a lot of memory, and then immediately try to use another memory intensive app, you may the OS begins to run low on memory as the garbage collector may not have run yet.
Regards,
Dave
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After playing GTA 3, Modern Combat 3, Asphalt 6, I will have this issue.
Killing the tasks on task manager won't help, neither cleaning memory.
Same problem
I have exactly same problem, my phone starts to lag randomly example in browser.
First its super smooth and then suddenly it kind of turns off gpu acceleration and starts to lag.
Even cm9 alpha doesnt have this problem so it's wery strange issue. And its there on every phone my friend also noticed it.
this is an issue with mali driver on note.
the gpu clock have two clockspeed that is 160mhz and 267mhz.
during that time when u run the benchmark the gpu clock to 160 and only utilise half of the mali power.
this had been explained by tegrak, creator of tegrak app.
the only solution is reboot and rerun the test or flash fm 2.0 that is clock min to 200mhz or flash tegrak kernel (can find at tegrak 2nd core in android dev forum) and use tegrak overclock app to lock the gpu to 267mhz.
Livewings said:
I'm currently on ROMOW 5.1, previously using ROCKET ROM since V9.
I never had this issue on Stock ROM's.
Both custom ROM's I used had this issue.
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This is exactly I don't use ROMs other than CM. Eagerly waiting for CM9. Until then, I am happy with Stock.
deli_gt said:
I have exactlh same problem, my phone starts to lag randomly examble in browser.
First its super smoothand then suddenly it kind of turns off gpu acceleration and starts to lag.
Even cm9 alpha doesnt have this problem so it's wery strange issue. And its there on every phone my friend also noticed it.
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We don't have the same problem. The browser thing I think everyone has that problem. Mine is a rare issue where it affects the entire OS.
nameejokerx said:
this is an issue with mali driver on note.
the gpu clock have two clockspeed that is 160mhz and 267mhz.
during that time when u run the benchmark the gpu clock to 160 and only utilise half of the mali power.
this had been explained by tegrak, creator of tegrak app.
the only solution is reboot and rerun the test or flash fm 2.0 that is clock min to 200mhz or flash tegrak kernel (can find at tegrak 2nd core in android dev forum) and use tegrak overclock app to lock the gpu to 267mhz.
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Thank you, I believe you might be right. I'll try and report back.
Raghav1980 said:
This is exactly I don't use ROMs other than CM. Eagerly waiting for CM9. Until then, I am happy with Stock.
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CM9 is awesome, but I can't live without the video player.
It is same problem i have exactly same impact, everything becomes lagyer. Same thing with every note.
The browser was only sample where you can notice it.
I can hereby confirm that Tegrak Kernel Build 31 is able to resolve the issue after setting the minimum GPU clock to 267mhz on Overclock Ultimate.
FM Kernel 2.0 doesn't solve the issue.
Is the phone hot after running this intensive app? The Note will guard itself against high temps.
zlagger said:
Is the phone hot after running this intensive app? The Note will guard itself against high temps.
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One of my favorite things about the Note: No hotness!!! I had this issue all the time with the SGSII to the point that I couldn't hold it to me ear. My Note doesn't even get warm! So happy.
i am on a stock phone and seen enough force closures in the last week and more than enough in the last 48h. i was just showing my daughter the live wallpapers, so was just flipping through various ones, after flipping through them quickly and setting it, the phone froze, was not able to do anything for about half and hour as phone was booting and rebooting with me unable to even switch off the phone. luckily, at one point i just was able to change wall paper to the black wall paper available on the market and it sorted itself out. it has done this twice whle flipping through live wall papers quickly. the wll papers i was flipping through were flames, weather windmills, aquariium, 3d wall paper, most came with the phone with the exception of flames and black wallpaper.
the phone is fine now but OTG function is flaky, dont know if it is the connector, so have ordered a samsung otg from amazon now and will find out whether it is the phone or the cable.
the built in file manager has serious lag issues as it keeps 'processing' after changing every folder and have stopped using that now and use other free ad supported versions instead which have no problems. same with stock video player which keeps force closing often, so use mxplayer or dice player without issues.
an expensive phone like this should work stock apps fine and not require third party apps for video playing and file browsing etc. was on the verge of returning it when it froze but seems ok now.
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Hello fellow Tab owners,
Since yesterday afternoon I own a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1v (GT-P7100). I really liked the device from the start, but was kind of dissapointed on the graphics performance. Whenever I opened the app drawer it wouldn't look smooth at all, sometimes sliding the homescreens would be slow as well...
So I thought that was a Honeycomb issue, then after installing Angry Birds I really felt let down. It was unable to run the game smoothly, while my DesireHD has no trouble at all. Whenever I pulled back one of the birds, or a lot of items were drawn on screen it wouldn't even hit 20FPS (guesstimation).
I went to find out what could cause these troubles, for that I needed my favorite app, SetCPU. I thought the CPU might be stuck on some frequency or something. So I rooted my device, and opened setCPU.
I'm not really a technical guy when it comes to developing for android devices. I am experienced with flashing roms on various phones, so the first thing I noticed was that the scaling was set to Interactive, I haven't seen that ever on any of the devices that I had. So I changed that bit and set it to "Set on Boot", then I did a reboot to be sure and *poof* it was blazing fast. No more delays or lags when opening the app drawer, and it was silky smooth.
Was this really the problem? You tell me, but I thought I'd share this with you since a lot of you seem dissapointed with their gaming speeds. All games run perfect now, Monster Madness runs great, Fruit Ninja, Angry Birds, Dungeon Defenders... All run just fine right now.
Tell me about your experiences
Wait until Honeycomb 3.1.
I read from the Xoom forum, 3.1 really does improve the performance.
Visit the Xoom forum for more info.
gogol said:
Wait until Honeycomb 3.1.
I read from the Xoom forum, 3.1 really does improve the performance.
Visit the Xoom forum for more info.
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I'm sorry, but did you actually read the post at all? :$ I'm trying to get a possible fix for our current 3.0.1 Honeycomb devices. I believe it will be faster with 3.1 but until then this might actually fix some of the lag issues
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Hello fellow Tab owners,
Since yesterday afternoon I own a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1v (GT-P7100). I really liked the device from the start, but was kind of dissapointed on the graphics performance. Whenever I opened the app drawer it wouldn't look smooth at all, sometimes sliding the homescreens would be slow as well...
So I thought that was a Honeycomb issue, then after installing Angry Birds I really felt let down. It was unable to run the game smoothly, while my DesireHD has no trouble at all. Whenever I pulled back one of the birds, or a lot of items were drawn on screen it wouldn't even hit 20FPS (guesstimation).
I went to find out what could cause these troubles, for that I needed my favorite app, SetCPU. I thought the CPU might be stuck on some frequency or something. So I rooted my device, and opened setCPU.
I'm not really a technical guy when it comes to developing for android devices. I am experienced with flashing roms on various phones, so the first thing I noticed was that the scaling was set to Interactive, I haven't seen that ever on any of the devices that I had. So I changed that bit and set it to "Set on Boot", then I did a reboot to be sure and *poof* it was blazing fast. No more delays or lags when opening the app drawer, and it was silky smooth.
Was this really the problem? You tell me, but I thought I'd share this with you since a lot of you seem dissapointed with their gaming speeds. All games run perfect now, Monster Madness runs great, Fruit Ninja, Angry Birds, Dungeon Defenders... All run just fine right now.
Tell me about your experiences
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i'm gonna check this on my device tomorrow. i'm also a little bit dissapointed about the performance of the tab, expected it to be much smoother.
could you please provide us with your setcpu settings? thanks
hebbe said:
i'm gonna check this on my device tomorrow. i'm also a little bit dissapointed about the performance of the tab, expected it to be much smoother.
could you please provide us with your setcpu settings? thanks
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Sure I can share my SetCPU settings ...
Min clock: 214MHz
Max clock: 1000MHz
Scaling: ondemand
Set on boot: Checked
Battery life seems solid, haven't really gotten the experience with using the tablet on interactive scaling.
Hey Frico, post a rebuttal video showing how awesome your smoothness is.
even with setCPU in performance mode, I still get major lag in fruit ninja.. and I mean the phone version, not the thd one. however, I do notice the launcher being a bit smoother.
smaskell said:
even with setCPU in performance mode, I still get major lag in fruit ninja.. and I mean the phone version, not the thd one. however, I do notice the launcher being a bit smoother.
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I will upload a video tommorow on how smooth it looks for me. Haven't tested Fruit Ninja non-thd. But in all angry birds versions the difference should be very very clear. Atleast, it was for me.
Right now, I'm off for bed. Keep me posted on all your experiences.
FricoRico said:
I will upload a video tommorow on how smooth it looks for me. Haven't tested Fruit Ninja non-thd. But in all angry birds versions the difference should be very very clear. Atleast, it was for me.
Right now, I'm off for bed. Keep me posted on all your experiences.
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thats odd...angry birds plays perfectly fine for me I do have extreme lag in the home screen department though. When i first got it, i didnt have any lag at all with a loaded homescreen. One week later it takes 5 seconds to rotate and its very jittery. Going to try the setcpu settings see if that makes a difference. THanks for the idea
FricoRico said:
I will upload a video tommorow on how smooth it looks for me. Haven't tested Fruit Ninja non-thd. But in all angry birds versions the difference should be very very clear. Atleast, it was for me.
Right now, I'm off for bed. Keep me posted on all your experiences.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfNJ8kIblR8
I put up a walkthrough on what I believe to be poor graphics performance on the 10.1 specifically. The Xoom, from what I have personally seen, does not replicate these issues.
bobdude5 said:
thats odd...angry birds plays perfectly fine for me I do have extreme lag in the home screen department though. When i first got it, i didnt have any lag at all with a loaded homescreen. One week later it takes 5 seconds to rotate and its very jittery. Going to try the setcpu settings see if that makes a difference. THanks for the idea
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Hmmm, you know thrre might be a difference be between our software versions. Acording to this post that is the latest version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1083517
My tablet runs on P7100BUKD9, it might be useful to also post version numbers.
Will make a video today.
FricoRico said:
Sure I can share my SetCPU settings ...
Min clock: 214MHz
Max clock: 1000MHz
Scaling: ondemand
Set on boot: Checked
Battery life seems solid, haven't really gotten the experience with using the tablet on interactive scaling.
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thanks for the settings.
i'm also very disappointed about the battery life! please, don't get me wrong, i love this device and i will never ever give it back again! but before my galaxy tab i owned an ipad, and i have to admit that battery life on the ipad is just awesome! more than 10 hours of heavy usage, weeks of standby.
with the galaxy tab i feel like the battery gets empty very fast, you can almost watch the battery indicator go down by every 3 to 4 minutes
and they promise a standby time of about 1000 hours! i don't believe my device will ever get any close to this! my guess is that after 3 days of standby it needs to be charged again.
oxeneers said:
The Xoom, from what I have personally seen, does not replicate these issues.
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Neither Acer Iconia A500 .
Is there a Tegra cpu inside galaxy tab?
Hello.
I have a general question I have been searching for on Google and the forum here. I am wondering if someone could tell me some areas that I will notice the benefits of overclocking. What I mean is, I understand it speeds up the CPU, but other than running a quadrant score (which means nothing to me really) where would you see the results to the naked eye?
Since flashing Lightspeed ROM and using Thor's Kernals it does appear that my internet pages load faster and the boot animations load faster. I think it seems like my thumb keyboards pop up a slight bit faster as well.
Are these the noticeable changes? Or are they just in my head since I am overclocking? (OR I think I am)
I am using SetCPU and have the Max set to about 1.5 and the Min set to 1.0 or 1.2 most of the time.
If someone could weigh in with some more knowledgeable information and possibly point me to a nice write up for Noobs like me who are interested in learning more about the benefits of Overclocking as well as maybe a guide for advice using SetCPU (or another App?) that is more recommended by those on here, I would appreciate it!
Thanks!!
Mine's takes about 30 seconds to boot from vibrate to lock screen if that makes any difference. OC to 1.5 using taboonay 2.0 with HV 3.4 kernal.
Mine defiantly seems to boot up faster. I do not play a lot of game on the tab, mainly just internet and movies, so I am not sure I am doing anything that would require such an increase in graphics speed that I am noticing the major differences. Right now I have mine set to about 1.4 and it is very stable with no problems. If I go to 1.6 I notice things start FC'ing more often.
HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.
SoHaunted said:
HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.
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Thanks. I will have to take a look at that tomorrow when I am stuck on the plane for a few hours.
I am new to samsung devices, been a HTC guy... i love my NOTE a lot.. only thing bugging me is the heat!!... is this device supposed to get warm while browsing , downloading and doing some heavy tasks... heat starts near the camera and in some time entire device gets warm.. is this normal??? ... i have not overclocked it... tried different firmwares and kernels, issue persists ... i am confused
No heat here unless i charge it and play an intense 3D game or something at the same time. Does it get really hot?
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depakjan said:
I am new to samsung devices, been a HTC guy... i love my NOTE a lot.. only thing bugging me is the heat!!... is this device supposed to get warm while browsing , downloading and doing some heavy tasks... heat starts near the camera and in some time entire device gets warm.. is this normal??? ... i have not overclocked it... tried different firmwares and kernels, issue persists ... i am confused
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Yes, it is... I also found out from Angelom (creator of abyss kernel) that default standard voltage from note is a bit on the high side.
Since you have tried different kernels, i assume you are rooted. And if yes, you can use setcpu from the market and tweaked the voltage down . That was advised by user Angelom and Robertberma and until now, i don't have anymore heating problem
@ LordManhattan , Not hot but Warm.. when you leave the device in sleep and touch it you can see how cold/normal it is, and once you start using it slowly the heat will spread and yes 3d intense games make it worsen, watching flash videos through browser and stuffs like that... surprised it overheats only when you charge and play.. for me it heats up when i am not charging also..
@ bluelavender.. can you gimme a screenshot of your setup.. i do have setcpu.. but don't want to mangle with voltages without knowing much... and currently i have 2.6 angelom kernel and rocketrom v13
Haha, don't worry, it's perfectly normal.
Reasons for the heat is due to the Amoled screen. When being used for long periods it tends to get toasty...
Expecially when gaming or web browsing it gets hot...
My old HTC would burn me it got that hot (no joke
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depakjan said:
@ LordManhattan , Not hot but Warm.. when you leave the device in sleep and touch it you can see how cold/normal it is, and once you start using it slowly the heat will spread and yes 3d intense games make it worsen, watching flash videos through browser and stuffs like that... surprised it overheats only when you charge and play.. for me it heats up when i am not charging also..
@ bluelavender.. can you gimme a screenshot of your setup.. i do have setcpu.. but don't want to mangle with voltages without knowing much... and currently i have 2.6 angelom kernel and rocketrom v13
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depakjan, i follow exactly robertberma advice as per in this post :
(several posts below this also got another sample setup from sibere, who was the author of one of the famous htc desire kernel)...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20903765&postcount=965
kanej2006 said:
Haha, don't worry, it's perfectly normal.
Reasons for the heat is due to the Amoled screen. When being used for long periods it tends to get toasty...
Expecially when gaming or web browsing it gets hot...
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I can't believe how much misinformation there is on this forum!
It's nothing to do with the AMOLED screen, it's the SoC. The CPU, by default, uses extraordinarily high voltages for 1.2 and 1.4ghz which can easily be toned down by 100mv and this makes a huge difference. Download Tegrak OC (on a stock kernel) or SetCPU on a custom kernel to change these settings.
Mine doesnt even go warm unless I charge and play.. this is probably the same issue with the S2 in where some units run a lot cooler than others. Just like desktop processors.
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I can't believe how much misinformation there is on this forum!
It's nothing to do with the AMOLED screen, it's the SoC. The CPU, by default, uses extraordinarily high voltages for 1.2 and 1.4ghz which can easily be toned down by 100mv and this makes a huge difference. Download Tegrak OC (on a stock kernel) or SetCPU on a custom kernel to change these settings.
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Of course it's down to the screen. As you mentioned it's also down to the cpu but screens cause heat, any screen does.
Every screen/monitor I've owned at home give out heat...
Do a simple test, play Angry Birds or any other game for a few minutes.
Then put the screen over your cheek and feel the HEAT coming from the screen.
I was on stock KKA for few days and my SGN did get hot even when doing simple task. Temperature is so much better now with stock KL7.
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i am now playing lets golf 3 ..online
after maybe 30 mins of playing it gets warm...
is this common in all smartphones?
is there a solution to this?
can i still continue to play if it gets warm?
charging/texting/video etc doesnt seem to heat up my note though..
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Of course it's down to the screen. As you mentioned it's also down to the cpu but screens cause heat, any screen does.
Every screen/monitor I've owned at home give out heat...
Do a simple test, play Angry Birds or any other game for a few minutes.
Then put the screen over your cheek and feel the HEAT coming from the screen.
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In my old appartment i had a iron stove with a huge stone on top. whenever i used the stove, the stone got hot!! so that must mean that the stone was the source of the heat!!
Ehm, no. It is not the screen that is the source. It is the CPU. You can just as easily heat the device with the screen off, if you press the CPU to the limit. Of course the screen gets hot, but its not the source.
Wow! Did you live in Africa to have a stove like that? Otherwise, I agree: of course it's the CPU and GPU causing the heat! It's quite obvious.
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Zamboney said:
Wow! Did you live in Africa to have a stove like that? Otherwise, I agree: of course it's the CPU and GPU causing the heat! It's quite obvious.
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No, in norway! Used it for warming, as it tends to get cold up here in the winter!
Now back to topic
Hi guys.
I don't want to open new thread for this, so I would like to ask you here.
I also recognized the heating problem on my Samsung Galaxy Note. And I don't have to play hard games etc, I can just surf on the web and do simple stuff on it to get hot (it feels hot for me) and also starts to smell a bit like heating electronics and plastic.
I can't remember, but I think that when I got my Note, when it was stock I didn't recognize that heating issue. First ROM that I put on was Darky ROM 3.3 and it works nice (no heating). After Darky ROM I flashed ICS Stunner and there those heating issues starts, as far as I remember. Then I went back on Stock 2.3.6. and now I'm on Stock 4.0.3 Open Germany ROM. The phone also gets hot on Stock ROMs now...
Hope there is any option to fix that problem, because it started to scary and worry me.
Thanks all for any help and answer!
after rooting and using different firmwares does cause the phone to go a little warm. you need to cut the power a lil bit. i myself tried various different rom and it bothered me with the heat issue. so i reverted back to stock. but since there are new builds coming every other day you can keep trying different build to the one that suits you.
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after rooting and using different firmwares does cause the phone to go a little warm. you need to cut the power a lil bit. i myself tried various different rom and it bothered me with the heat issue. so i reverted back to stock. but since there are new builds coming every other day you can keep trying different build to the one that suits you.
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So this means that I'm destroying my device with every new flash?
Isn't that cutting of power bad for the phone?
My stock nexus 4 used to shoot up to 1.512 GHz just by playing with my home screen. But I dropped it on the table when I rushed to pick up a call. The fall was relatively minor so I didn't care much. However it started to lag a little on my live wallpaper and apps, even typing now feels a little like I'm using a budget android phone (yes, you know how that feels like, the pain, the pain!!) It still works, its just a little slow and the clock speed is really bothering me.
Turns out my clock speed harbors around 1.134 GHz when I use it now And RAM is around 900 MBs when it used to be around 400 . Tried a factory reset, no changes. Tried to return, failed. Can you guys think of anything? Seriously, I will try any darn thing to fix it..
AW: bizzare CPU clock speed problem
ryanok said:
My stock nexus 4 used to shoot up to 1.512 GHz just by playing with my home screen. But I dropped it on the table when I rushed to pick up a call. The fall was relatively minor so I didn't care much. However it started to lag a little on my live wallpaper and apps, even typing now feels a little like I'm using a budget android phone (yes, you know how that feels like, the pain, the pain!!) It still works, its just a little slow and the clock speed is really bothering me.
Turns out my clock speed harbors around 1.134 GHz when I use it now And RAM is around 900 MBs when it used to be around 400 . Tried a factory reset, no changes. Tried to return, failed. Can you guys think of anything? Seriously, I will try any darn thing to fix it..
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I'm pretty sure that this is not a malfunction but normal behaviour of MPDecision. When you use your phone normally, it won't immediately ramp up to 1,5 GHz but first to 1 GHz. What happens if you stress it a lot (try the app Stability Test)?
it only goes to 1512mhz when it needs to, otherwise itll stay at lower cpu speeds.
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I'm pretty sure that this is not a malfunction but normal behaviour of MPDecision. When you use your phone normally, it won't immediately ramp up to 1,5 GHz but first to 1 GHz. What happens if you stress it a lot (try the app Stability Test)?
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It went on for 5 minutes before the battery ran dry but it was the same... No change. And proof that there is something wrong. Look at the number of CPU runs, only 2! Before the drop, it would had been 20 over at least.
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it only goes to 1512mhz when it needs to, otherwise itll stay at lower cpu speeds.
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Before thanks to Butter UI I assume it would go to 1512 to make things smooth. Now it doesn't now so it lags very much. Even while playing games like temple run
2 the clock speed doesn't want to go any higher..
OK, anyone?
Should I root and flash a custom kernel and see? can I even repair this problem if I use my warranty?
So I upgraded my X compact to official Nougat 7.0 a couple of days back and on first impressions I noticed some lag here and there mostly when scrolling
And I knew that Snapdragon 650 is almost clos to SD810 so what could be the problem because it was awesomely fluid and smooth on MM 6.0.1, so I started to dig up and here's what I noticed:
In CPUz app on MM it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.8 GHz but today I looked it up and in Nougat it shows Qualcomm SD 650 @ 1.4 GHz!!! And if you look at cpu cores, those 2 last core Cpu4 and cpu5 are stopped (i guess those two are [email protected] cores right?)
So conclusion is that A72 cores which are the main core to maintain smoothness are offline for some reason so Im asking developers to dig this up and help us out
Thank you
If there is no activity they should be stopped. My old Xperia M2 usually had only 1 core out of 4 active at the minimum clock. Then sure, if something was running in the background all 4 kicked at the hight clock.
I can't check right now with Nougat (my phone is currently updating to it. But it seems to take an awful lot of time. I think it has been updating for 20 minutes or more. Hopefully it's just updating all Dalvik caches or what they are now), but in Marshmallow all 6 cores were always active even with the CPU nearly idle. In my case I think that helped to cause the somehow high battery drain I had (that and plus wakelocks spamming all time).
But sure, if that means the phone will start lagging, screw it. I could deal with a day of battery life, I sure can't deal (again. And then again and again!) with a keyboard showing up after 1 or more seconds also missing the keys while swiping.
PS: it finally installed. You're right. Something definitively looks wrong with it. The cores 4 & 5 are disabled even with Google Play doing some apps updates. Unless it's because CPU Z isn't supporting Nougat yet. I'll have to investigate more via adb.
PPS: It might be the typical placebo effect but it actually feels even smoother now! So I am not sure what's going on.
Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue
I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.
I don't have those problems....
edit: I HAVE THIS PROBLEM.....
Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!
Can someone on 7.0 with the Issue use CPU-Z (from google play) and click on "online validation" and share thr link to the CPU information page here, please?
Kianush said:
Guys are you serious?!
You actually dont see the lags here and there? Ieven see it lags when there are some notifications and i wanna scroll em fast
Come on guys!
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you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat
cingolat said:
you are too much dramatic...... there are some lag but not so much and not so drastic.....
and battery life is much much better on nougat
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Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...
Kianush said:
Maybe I am but smoothness in compact size was the one and only reason I went for this little guy
And whats the point of havin SD650 if there isnt any A72 cores to operate
And I really prefer a 100% fluid rom than a couple of hours more juice...
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I agree with you, and hope in a future update to solve this bug(because it is obviously a bug), but for now I can live with this.... maybe I'm lucky, but I don't have big lags, just a little bit here and there..... hope in future 7.1.1 to solve that....
another thing I notice is a louder speaker sound.....
dcro95 said:
I used CPU-Z and CPU N°4 and 5 seems to be stop.
After few hours I am not sur that there are more lag than before.
I made a test with Antutu, I had arround 75000 before the update, and arround 80000 after the update.
I think I will make a fresh installation tomorrow.
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Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?
Kianush said:
Nah definitly not smoother!
I Check with qualcomm app and those 2 core are off all the time and it is lagging very bad in many places
If you wanna see the lag you can go scroll fast in call log or install an app like telegram messenger and scrol in chats
And also I played spiderman unlimited game on it and its lagging there no
There was No lag at all on android 6
Guys please report this issue
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I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.
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Wich rom did you update from to get nougat?
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I had a customized FR ROM 34.1.A.3.49, I had the Nougat update by OTA.
I made some test with ANTUTU with Nougat ROM, the results are :
- 80160
- 75600
- 74600
- 80780
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I confirm it doesn't lag for me. I checked scrolling through a long chat in Whatsapp and through the list of all my apps in Google Play (the latter has always been slow. Now it loads immediately, that's why I felt it was snappier). Then I tested with Antutu and I have got 74K (not sure why @dcro95 has got 80K, though).
Then if you look in Antutu/Info/CPU/More you see that for core 5&6 it says they are disabled. But at the same time it shows the percentage of their are activity (which, being the cores disabled, should be none). I didn't have time to check with adb, yet. But what I suspected and it seems to be confirmed by Antutu is that there might be a "bug" where the values for the cores active have the "read" flag cleared, like it happened with the minfree values in Lollipop with some Xperia (M2 for sure. It was "-w--w-----" instead of "rw-rw----".
Anyway, in case of your very noticeable lag I'd suggest to first check your stamina settings. If I enable the Stamina the phone lags immediately. Either with Nougat or Marshmallow.
Oh, and it mat not matter f you didn't enable the Stamina before upgrading. After the upgrade plenty of my configuration parameters simply went bananas. It changed my WiFi settings, removing the static address. And in the case of an app (but I imagine more of them at this point), it modified the login. I'm sure the login was correct because I had a widget for that app active (and working fine).
PS: my battery life still sucks, though. Actually it is even worse than before. I may have to backup, reset and restore the phone and see if it helps.
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Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag
The laging that comes up after turning on Stamina is waaaay more than the lag that I talked about in OP, of course that is big enough to be seen by anyone!
On android 6.0.1 I didnt see even the smallest lag absolutly nothing! but after the upgrade to 7.0 I was starting to see small lags here and there(you might not even see it! Im very sensitive in this case) like for example when you have 3 notifications try to open notification bar with slow to normal finger swipe down, it lags a little there, and other examples that i said before.
At first i thought maybe the rom is not well optimized but after I saw cpuz I was sure that those cores are off!
On android MM telegram messenger had no lags, nothing! But now it lags a lot when scrolling but i say again this "a lot" is in compariaon to MM! not to Xperia tipo!!!
So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.
I created a thread here quoting your first post. Maybe it will get more attention
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ock/td-p/1187152/jump-to/first-unread-message
Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
However I can"t say it lag. It maybe a little longer to charge game or big app but I use them to rarely to compare
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Have reboot the phone and the core 5 & 6 were activated (up to 1,8)
Just after make it sleep, the core were stopped. Maybe an issue with doze ?
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Same for me, after reboot and used photos, th� where actived and cpu turn at 1.8ghz. 5min after they where disable. I think it depend cpu use. I ve no lag.
Kianush said:
Thank you for you info man but let me explain it to you again
Firstly, what Im saying is on microscopic scale, I do feel even the smallest amount of lag.
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Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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So I am 100% positive that A72 1.8Ghz cores are not functioning.
Lets go and try to fix that, or wait for an update to fix it.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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Hmmm.. Nope, my friend. You talked about a lot of lag: these are your very own words: "it is lagging very bad in many places"
Now if the problem is that you perceive a microlag that could be. With Lagdroid I learned how to ignore that for good.
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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So what you say is that those cores are functioning normally but its juat showing them sleep right?!?
Then please tell me whats the reason on these even small lags?
Those dont matter actually, I need to know why I cant play spiderman unlimited and asphalt 8 on ultra setting like before
You could test them yourself
See 4 a53 1.4GHz are enough for daily usage but on heavy usage its obiouse that those a72 cores are missing
But there is one probibility, that those guys become active on very high usage like antutu! But I guess thats gonna be VERY HIGH!
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And I am quite sure that the cores are active, as Antutu benchmark shows in the info section. In the attached picture you can see how Antutu shows that the cores 5 & 6 have a CPU load (which I made it varying moving the notification panel), while at the same time they are shown as disabled. That simply isn't possible. If a core is disabled it can't have any load. So yes, there is a bug, but that seems to be in the CPU monitoring. I doubt we would get 74K or plus in Antutu if those two cores were off.
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I have exactly the same on Antutu, and the max frequency is 1804 MHz.