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What's the point of overclocking???

Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?

bluntly, if you dont see the point of it then you don't need it.
For others, sometimes you run alot of stuff in the background and still want to be able to have your main app perform at its best level.
There is also the minute tweaking of speed and snappiness of the interface. The idea of instant reaction when you open your message app, or your email, or anything.

bruceko86 said:
Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
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Heavy multitasking
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flash video seems pretty laggy to me at 800...

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Best link ever! I hope i can remember it long enough to use it sometime.
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.

bruceko86 said:
Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Fair question IMHO.
I don't see the difference when overclocking, or rather I don't feel it. Software does make a difference, but not the extra 200-500Mhz. I do feel however the battery drain

It always makes me laugh when somebody asks a legitimate question and you get silly responses like the above 2. It's as if these people feel threatened and have to justify that they are more knowledgeable than the op. The facts of the matter are most of the tweaks, mods and alterations are wholly unnecessary in the real world.

If you don't feel like it makes it better then you don't have to use it. I use it because I feel it makes everything just a little snappier and more instant. If you don't notice a difference that's fine. It's probably trivial for me to notice the little hang ups but I can't help it.
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For me there's several reasons. For the most part, the reason for oc is because you can. But there are practical reasons as well. For example, with the stock ROM running at 800MHz, you're stuck with that. With an oc kernel and using SetCPU or built in clock settings in CM, you can adjust it as needed. Gonna play a game? Bump it up to 1GHz or so. Done with said game? Take it back down to 800MHz. But it's not all about oc. Sometimes there's a need to underclock. Getting low on battery and don't have a charger near by and need to squeeze another hour or two out of it? Maybe take it down to 768MHz or 600MHz (if you're running Pershoot's kernel).

Dungeon Defender:
800 mHz : not fun, laggy
1.5 gHz : fun, graphic are more smooth

Reasons for using over clocking:
Because I can
Because sometimes I do notice the difference in performance of the UI and some applications (wait for Sense 3.0 etc...)
Because I also use it to underclock.
Like everything else, a lot of it is perception. My wife cannot see any difference between our normal cable channels and the HD ones. I can (or am I just trying to convince myself that I can?). Oh well.

Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.

here's my experience when it comes to overclocking. keep in mind that, like with your computer, it does vary from user to user... so I'm making these statements from MY experience, not making blanket statements regarding all of our devices:
- if you run multiple homescreens with multiple widgets and ui "smoothness," not just aesthetically, but performance-wise as well, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you have several apps running at any given time (in background or foreground) and ui smoothness, same definition as above, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run any iteration of a sense rom in any configuration and ui smoothness is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run PSX/N64 emulators and you don't want audio distortion or general lagginess, more aggressive (in my case, 1209 is a safe speed for maximizing performance without having a drastic effect on battery life) overclocking becomes necessary.
on AOSP builds, especially gingerbread-based, I don't think there is a necessity for more processing power than what we get from the factory if you're running a relatively slim setup and aren't using something like a PSX/N64 emulator regularly.

I run mine at 1ghz, but I did use 1.2ghz before. I do notice a slight performance difference. Overall tho I don't notice it much. I notice it more when I'm doing multiple things.
Nonsense!

OneGoodKnock said:
Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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I run 1.1 because it is noticably faster. Everything opens faster and works smoother. My wife has a stock G2 and when I grab it to look something up on the web or to use maps when we're out, I instantly notice how mucher slower hers is.
Works for me so I use it.

I notice a definite performance boost on mine, but it also depends on which kernel/ROM you use. I was running meXroid for a few days and found that it got extremely laggy even overclocked with Flippy's kernel built in (1.9Ghz), plus my battery was dying faster than a Chuck Norris joke. PyroMod has always been reliable for me and I flashed back to 2.0 earlier and it's just as reliable and power-saving as ever.

mputtr said:
For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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Thanks for that.

[Q] Overclocking Question?

Hello.
I have a general question I have been searching for on Google and the forum here. I am wondering if someone could tell me some areas that I will notice the benefits of overclocking. What I mean is, I understand it speeds up the CPU, but other than running a quadrant score (which means nothing to me really) where would you see the results to the naked eye?
Since flashing Lightspeed ROM and using Thor's Kernals it does appear that my internet pages load faster and the boot animations load faster. I think it seems like my thumb keyboards pop up a slight bit faster as well.
Are these the noticeable changes? Or are they just in my head since I am overclocking? (OR I think I am)
I am using SetCPU and have the Max set to about 1.5 and the Min set to 1.0 or 1.2 most of the time.
If someone could weigh in with some more knowledgeable information and possibly point me to a nice write up for Noobs like me who are interested in learning more about the benefits of Overclocking as well as maybe a guide for advice using SetCPU (or another App?) that is more recommended by those on here, I would appreciate it!
Thanks!!

Mine's takes about 30 seconds to boot from vibrate to lock screen if that makes any difference. OC to 1.5 using taboonay 2.0 with HV 3.4 kernal.

Mine defiantly seems to boot up faster. I do not play a lot of game on the tab, mainly just internet and movies, so I am not sure I am doing anything that would require such an increase in graphics speed that I am noticing the major differences. Right now I have mine set to about 1.4 and it is very stable with no problems. If I go to 1.6 I notice things start FC'ing more often.

HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.

SoHaunted said:
HD playback has definitely improved since overclocking on 3.1, some 720p videos that suffered from random slow downs now play flawlessly with setcpu at 1.5 on performance mode, temps always stay below 35°c hours after being set to performance.
The rest is minor improvements.
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Thanks. I will have to take a look at that tomorrow when I am stuck on the plane for a few hours.

[Q] Serious Lag in Galaxy Note.

Has everybody encountered after doing some intensive stuff like doing AnTuTu benchmark, the phone abruptly slows down to a crawl where animations slow down like rotation being damn slow, swiping through screens also is slow, and games being damn slow. For instance, I ran AnTuTu benchmark and it won't go higher than 30FPS. where usually it's 40 - 60 FPS.
This is not the typical lag I encounter.
The only way to solve this is to restart the phone. Sometimes restarting the phone once is not enough.

This sounds fishy. Never happened to me before. Although will try again once I download Antutu.
Edit: Just checked... Ran Antutu. Got a score of 6474. Everything seems fine. After quitting Antutu, scrolled through the homescreens. Everything was smooth as before.
Edit2: Ran Antutu again & got a score of 6502. Tried playing ShadowGun immediately afterwards. It ran without any hiccups...
Currently on KL8.

Livewings said:
Has everybody encountered after doing some intensive stuff like doing AnTuTu benchmark, the phone abruptly slows down to a crawl where animations slow down like rotation being damn slow, swiping through screens also is slow, and games being damn slow. For instance, I ran AnTuTu benchmark and it won't go higher than 30FPS. where usually it's 40 - 60 FPS.
This is not the typical lag I encounter.
The only way to solve this is to restart the phone. Sometimes restarting the phone once is not enough.
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Turn off the power saving mode and you should notice a big improvement in lag.
I get around 56fps running AnTuTu with system power saving off.With power saving on,I only get 27fps.A big difference.

Could this be an overheating issue? Your cpu might be throttling coz of high temps.
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Raghav1980 said:
This sounds fishy. Never happened to me before. Although will try again once I download Antutu.
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This is not only because of AnTuTu, this only happens when I'm running an intensive app, where suddenly after exiting it will slow down to a crawl.
The most annoying part is the rotation animation. It is devastating slow.
noteworthy said:
Turn off the power saving mode and you should notice a big improvement in lag.
I get around 56fps running AnTuTu with system power saving off.With power saving on,I only get 27fps.A big difference.
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Power saving mode was never turned on at the first place.
pandey18 said:
Could this be an overheating issue? Your cpu might be throttling coz of high temps.
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I'm not sure because the phone also isn't hot at that time.

I haven't seen this issue either with benchmark apps or with intensive games. Might be an issue specific to your device. What rom is it running?

speedofheat said:
I haven't seen this issue either with benchmark apps or with intensive games. Might be an issue specific to your device. What rom is it running?
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I'm currently on ROMOW 5.1, previously using ROCKET ROM since V9.
I never had this issue on Stock ROM's.
Both custom ROM's I used had this issue.

Livewings said:
This is not only because of AnTuTu, this only happens when I'm running an intensive app, where suddenly after exiting it will slow down to a crawl.
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What sort of "intensive app"? Is it still running in the background?
If you have an app that uses a lot of memory, and then immediately try to use another memory intensive app, you may the OS begins to run low on memory as the garbage collector may not have run yet.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
What sort of "intensive app"? Is it still running in the background?
If you have an app that uses a lot of memory, and then immediately try to use another memory intensive app, you may the OS begins to run low on memory as the garbage collector may not have run yet.
Regards,
Dave
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After playing GTA 3, Modern Combat 3, Asphalt 6, I will have this issue.
Killing the tasks on task manager won't help, neither cleaning memory.

Same problem
I have exactly same problem, my phone starts to lag randomly example in browser.
First its super smooth and then suddenly it kind of turns off gpu acceleration and starts to lag.
Even cm9 alpha doesnt have this problem so it's wery strange issue. And its there on every phone my friend also noticed it.

this is an issue with mali driver on note.
the gpu clock have two clockspeed that is 160mhz and 267mhz.
during that time when u run the benchmark the gpu clock to 160 and only utilise half of the mali power.
this had been explained by tegrak, creator of tegrak app.
the only solution is reboot and rerun the test or flash fm 2.0 that is clock min to 200mhz or flash tegrak kernel (can find at tegrak 2nd core in android dev forum) and use tegrak overclock app to lock the gpu to 267mhz.

Livewings said:
I'm currently on ROMOW 5.1, previously using ROCKET ROM since V9.
I never had this issue on Stock ROM's.
Both custom ROM's I used had this issue.
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This is exactly I don't use ROMs other than CM. Eagerly waiting for CM9. Until then, I am happy with Stock.

deli_gt said:
I have exactlh same problem, my phone starts to lag randomly examble in browser.
First its super smoothand then suddenly it kind of turns off gpu acceleration and starts to lag.
Even cm9 alpha doesnt have this problem so it's wery strange issue. And its there on every phone my friend also noticed it.
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We don't have the same problem. The browser thing I think everyone has that problem. Mine is a rare issue where it affects the entire OS.
nameejokerx said:
this is an issue with mali driver on note.
the gpu clock have two clockspeed that is 160mhz and 267mhz.
during that time when u run the benchmark the gpu clock to 160 and only utilise half of the mali power.
this had been explained by tegrak, creator of tegrak app.
the only solution is reboot and rerun the test or flash fm 2.0 that is clock min to 200mhz or flash tegrak kernel (can find at tegrak 2nd core in android dev forum) and use tegrak overclock app to lock the gpu to 267mhz.
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Thank you, I believe you might be right. I'll try and report back.
Raghav1980 said:
This is exactly I don't use ROMs other than CM. Eagerly waiting for CM9. Until then, I am happy with Stock.
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CM9 is awesome, but I can't live without the video player.

It is same problem i have exactly same impact, everything becomes lagyer. Same thing with every note.
The browser was only sample where you can notice it.

I can hereby confirm that Tegrak Kernel Build 31 is able to resolve the issue after setting the minimum GPU clock to 267mhz on Overclock Ultimate.
FM Kernel 2.0 doesn't solve the issue.

Is the phone hot after running this intensive app? The Note will guard itself against high temps.

zlagger said:
Is the phone hot after running this intensive app? The Note will guard itself against high temps.
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One of my favorite things about the Note: No hotness!!! I had this issue all the time with the SGSII to the point that I couldn't hold it to me ear. My Note doesn't even get warm! So happy.

i am on a stock phone and seen enough force closures in the last week and more than enough in the last 48h. i was just showing my daughter the live wallpapers, so was just flipping through various ones, after flipping through them quickly and setting it, the phone froze, was not able to do anything for about half and hour as phone was booting and rebooting with me unable to even switch off the phone. luckily, at one point i just was able to change wall paper to the black wall paper available on the market and it sorted itself out. it has done this twice whle flipping through live wall papers quickly. the wll papers i was flipping through were flames, weather windmills, aquariium, 3d wall paper, most came with the phone with the exception of flames and black wallpaper.
the phone is fine now but OTG function is flaky, dont know if it is the connector, so have ordered a samsung otg from amazon now and will find out whether it is the phone or the cable.
the built in file manager has serious lag issues as it keeps 'processing' after changing every folder and have stopped using that now and use other free ad supported versions instead which have no problems. same with stock video player which keeps force closing often, so use mxplayer or dice player without issues.
an expensive phone like this should work stock apps fine and not require third party apps for video playing and file browsing etc. was on the verge of returning it when it froze but seems ok now.

Fastest ROM?

I've been running AOKP on my GSII for months and love the ROM but I'm unimpressed with the Nook Color version. It has really bad lag in everything I do. I'm new to hacking the NC so I'm looking for the fastest ROM out there. Something doesn't completely pale in comparison to my GS2.
Does anyone have a ROM or ROM/Kernal combo recommendation? Is it worth V6 supercharging or running anything else to help speed it up?
Thanks much

nook rom
man i agree .every rom shakie .i kinda gave up on the nook for a little while.
i put cm9 simple on my FIRE now...what a difference. my kindle fire runs cm9 awsome...
Why won't me nook run like my FIRE? (NO LAG)

jimhal1960 said:
Why won't me nook run like my FIRE? (NO LAG)
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Several reasons. The Fire is a much more powerful machine, dual core 1GZ out of the box, hardware video acceleration, etc.

The first step when experiencing sluggishness or lag with the nook color should be to set maximum cpu speed to not more than 1100MHx... several nook colors have been known to have issues with any clock speed above this... remember, while the cpu's they put in them are capable of running 1200MHz ideally... they rated them at 800MHz for a reason.
CPU manufacturer aren't going to deliberately under-rate their processors for no reason... and they aren't going to do it to sell them cheaper... they do it because there was something going on that they are not comfortable supplying warranty for underperforming processors.

I have also noticed that sluggishness in rather static operations (like book page turns) can be improved by raising the min to 600 from 300. At least that is how it seems. Does that make sense?

I've bumped the clock on mine to the 1000MHZ range but left the lower at 300MHZ. Does bumping the lower help with just with idle performance?
I guess my biggest problem is that I'm comparing the NC loosely to my SGS2. I know that's not fair and I need to lower my standards here. But is there a reasonable expectation that screen swipes are smooth and basic programs like Kindle, email, and web browsing will run without stuttering excessively?
Is there one ROM that stands heads and shoulders above the rest in the speed category?

Knips178 said:
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It's nothing fancy, but CM 7.2 Mirage has been very responsive and stable for me. I don't do any heavy graphics games or the like, but it works well for streaming Netflix. My reader and email apps are responsive. Mirage incorporates some of the optimizations from Supercharger V6 already, so there's not a lot of twiddling required. I run mine at 1.2 GHz with no issue, and have done so for months.
It's not life in the fast lane, but it's solid and makes the NC work well for the basics I bought it for.

+1 MiRaGe-Kang. It, the Nook Color, won't play Crysis but I don't ask it to. I want to watch a TV show, (screw HD. If you have to have HD buy an Apple product and haunt *their* forums), at lunch. Listen to audio books/music as I'm traveling, read something at night and beep me awake. Throw in the occasional solitaire, Angry Birds or Tetris to kill time in line and you've got the idea.
I follow the updates for fun but for the average user I would recommend that you just make sure the latest update is stable, apply it and not worry about it anymore until you start wondering about ICS or Jelly Bean.

Wow, this is definitely faster than the AOKP I was running. Noticed a big difference right away. Odd because AOKP is based on CM9 I think. Guess CM7 is just a better fit.
Thanks everyone for your responses

4.2 Update- MAJOR Gaming Performance Increase

After updating to 4.2 via using the toolkit to download and flash google 4.1.1 factory image, then updating to 4.1.2 via OTA, then flashing the 4.2 update via recovery, I have noticed something very special...
Gaming. Oh my god. Gaming. What happened? What the hell happened? I mean- one minute I was happily running 4.1.2, the latest Smooth Rom, coupled with Motley a11, with the GPU clocked at 520Mhz, and the CPU at 1.6Ghz. And playing games.such as NFS Most Wanted and NOVA 3 was... Acceptable. Just about smooth enough to enjoy (20-25 FPS). And the next minute, I'm running 4.2 stock, with 100% stock frequencies for every aspect of the tablet, and gaming is soooooo darn smooth!!! (30-40 FPS). I mean- what the actual hell have Google pulled here??
Before its mentioned- I've checked. Both of the games mentioned still have the full Tegra Effects enabled, just as they were when they were running under 4.1.2.
My verdict is that when the games were running under 4.1.2, they weren't running on all cores available. Maybe just two, or perhaps even just one! Is it possible that Google have now enabled all the cores available to applications? If so- why wasn't it like this before?
What are your thoughts people?

chaplinb said:
After updating to 4.2 via using the toolkit to download and flash google 4.1.1 factory image, then updating to 4.1.2 via OTA, then flashing the 4.2 update via recovery, I have noticed something very special...
Gaming. Oh my god. Gaming. What happened? What the hell happened? I mean- one minute I was happily running 4.1.2, the latest Smooth Rom, coupled with Motley a11, with the GPU clocked at 520Mhz, and the CPU at 1.6Ghz. And playing games.such as NFS Most Wanted and NOVA 3 was... Acceptable. Just about smooth enough to enjoy (20-25 FPS). And the next minute, I'm running 4.2 stock, with 100% stock frequencies for every aspect of the tablet, and gaming is soooooo darn smooth!!! (30-40 FPS). I mean- what the actual hell have Google pulled here??
Before its mentioned- I've checked. Both of the games mentioned still have the full Tegra Effects enabled, just as they were when they were running under 4.1.2.
My verdict is that when the games were running under 4.1.2, they weren't running on all cores available. Maybe just two, or perhaps even just one! Is it possible that Google have now enabled all the cores available to applications? If so- why wasn't it like this before?
What ate your thoughts people?
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Overclocking GPUS and CPUs doesn't always mean you're getting the best performance out of your device.. In a lot of cases it can actually cause no performance increase or worse performance.
Especially at a OC of 1.6 and a GPU at 520.. I can almost guarantee your device was getting throttled down for thermal protection while gaming..

I hope you are right. But i don't see why it would not have used all cores before, it depends more on the application using threads properly.
Will definitely try some games when i get home, wish we had a Nexus 7 at work but they preferred an iPad mini for 7-8 inches app testing

lol edit srry

Yeah you're probably right. But even on stock kernel, I wasn't getting the smoothness I am now
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styckx said:
Overclocking GPUS and CPUs doesn't always mean you're getting the best performance out of your device.. In a lot of cases it can actually cause no performance increase or worse performance.
Especially at a OC of 1.6 and a GPU at 520.. I can almost guarantee your device was getting throttled down for thermal protection while gaming..
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Glad you said it, peeps still think an overclock = performance when in most cases a max overclock will hurt more than it helps, well unless you break out the liquid nitrogen.. happy days.
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Kaeladar said:
I hope you are right. But i don't see why it would not have used all cores before, it depends more on the application using threads properly.
Will definitely try some games when i get home, wish we had a Nexus 7 at work but they preferred an iPad mini for 7-8 inches app testing
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off topic but how you getting on with the ipad mini? Is the screen as bad as they say? not that im saying the N7 screen is good or anything its passable at best.

androidizen said:
Glad you said it, peeps still think an overclock = performance when in most cases a max overclock will hurt more than it helps, well unless you break out the liquid nitrogen.. happy days.
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off topic but how you getting on with the ipad mini? Is the screen as bad as they say? not that im saying the N7 screen is good or anything its passable at best.
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Screen is terrible. Text looks like crap.
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Nvidia recently made some improvements to their Linux driver, claiming "double the performance."
Maybe some of those improvements made it into the Tegra 3 driver for Android?
I have not tried any games on 4.2 yet, can anyone confirm what the OP said?

Yeah I am aware that over-clocking rarely means performance increase. Its just fun to experiment sometimes and see for yourself
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It's slightly faster with some games, but I wouldn't call it major or anything.

steevp said:
Nvidia recently made some improvements to their Linux driver, claiming "double the performance."
Maybe some of those improvements made it into the Tegra 3 driver for Android?
I have not tried any games on 4.2 yet, can anyone confirm what the OP said?
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I got no performance improvement on Antutu, Egypt HD or Classic.

Neither did I. But I imagine those apps will soon receive an update to take advantage of 4.2?
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Oh dear, if you call 30-40 FPS a major increase then i worry about android gaming. Its 2012. 60 FPS should be the standard frame rate by now. games should be as smooth as project butter. This is why i jumped ship from windows phone to the galaxy s3. i wanted more power to run these games properly. sadly, a lot of them dont. I bought need for speed most wanted and hope it would run at 60 fps. it dosnt unless there is something wrong with my S3. Why do android owners think that 30 fps is acceptable in this day and age of dual and quad core processors?

davidebanks said:
Oh dear, if you call 30-40 FPS a major increase then i worry about android gaming. Its 2012. 60 FPS should be the standard frame rate by now. games should be as smooth as project butter. This is why i jumped ship from windows phone to the galaxy s3. i wanted more power to run these games properly. sadly, a lot of them dont. I bought need for speed most wanted and hope it would run at 60 fps. it dosnt unless there is something wrong with my S3. Why do android owners think that 30 fps is acceptable in this day and age of dual and quad core processors?
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I can't tell you how many fps Need For Speed has on the S3 but I'd say it runs damn fast. A lot faster than on my N7 (still 4.1.2).
60 fps or 30 fps boils down to less detailed graphics or more detailed graphics on the same hardware. If you ask me, I take more details @30 fps then cheesy graphics @60 fps.

harise100 said:
I can't tell you how many fps Need For Speed has on the S3 but I'd say it runs damn fast. A lot faster than on my N7 (still 4.1.2).
60 fps or 30 fps boils down to less detailed graphics or more detailed graphics on the same hardware. If you ask me, I take more details @30 fps then cheesy graphics @60 fps.
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each to their own, perhaps your attitude is why developers cant be bothered to make or optimise android games to their full potential. should my quad core S3 be running games as smoothly as the same game on the dual core iphone 5? yep. do they? nope. im pretty sure that the S3 is capable. poor optimization i suspect. as an example, i bet need for speed most wanted is smoother on iphone5 than the S3 version? likely running at 60 fps but with the same graphics, same with Nova 3? FIFA 12? list goes on.
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i wish i had 4.2...
and here i thought people could only notice about 24fps... everything is smooth for me (except for spiderman) and im still on 4.1.2...
p.s can you tell me why my n7 wont update to 4.2? it notifies me theres an update and i click reboot&install, and it, i think, starts installing but something happens, and it just reboots with 4.1... thanks in advance

PenguinDroid said:
and here i thought people could only notice about 24fps... everything is smooth for me (except for spiderman) and im still on 4.1.2...
p.s can you tell me why my n7 wont update to 4.2? it notifies me theres an update and i click reboot&install, and it, i think, starts installing but something happens, and it just reboots with 4.1... thanks in advance
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thats what people keep saying but .if you have two copies of the same game one running at 24fps and the other running at 60fps and have them side by side. then you can easily tell the difference. Also JB, project Butter allows the UI to Run at 60fps, as they say, buttery smooth. if a person could not have be able to tell the difference between 24fps and 60 fps then why did they bother with project butter? there is a huge difference between the smothness of jelly bean compared to Gingerbread, or even ICS on some of the phones which cant quite handle ICS. thats why I want the games to run at 60fps...we have the technology and power with android now......