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I'm still debating on which phone to get right now, and wanted some opinion from Nexus One owners. Aside from aesthetic, which is totally personal preferences anyway, should i still get one now that the desire is out? Seeing a lot of people rooted their phones to get the desire rom anyway.
1. Froyo update before anyone else.
2. You hate Sense UI
Anymore? 0.o
Mokurex said:
I'm still debating on which phone to get right now, and wanted some opinion from Nexus One owners. Aside from aesthetic, which is totally personal preferences anyway, should i still get one now that the desire is out? Seeing a lot of people rooted their phones to get the desire rom anyway.
1. Froyo update before anyone else.
2. You hate Sense UI
Anymore? 0.o
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Pros of Nexus One vs desire
Will get Froyo soon (with full flash support)
two mics with one being used for noise cancellation
Cons of nexus one vs desire
3g issue(not as strong 3g signal if held in hand and weaker signal then other 3g phones)
no outlook calender support by default
Pros of desire vs nexus one
sense ui (if you like sense)
outlook calender support by default
Cons desire vs nexus one
Will not get Froyo or other udates soon or at all
one mic with no noise cancellation
If it was me I would go with the evo 4g but if I had to choose N1 vs desire I would get the nexus one. You will end up using nexus one rom with froyo anyway if you want updates the same year they come out.
Edit: Removed incorrect info about touch screen.
Wow, you basically nailed everything. Thanks for the info man.
I believe the Desire has the same touch screen as the Nexus One, and the same 3G chip. The 3G reception and the limitations of the touchscreen are the same on both.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbmnvikY0rg
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I believe the Desire has the same touch screen as the Nexus One, and the same 3G chip. The 3G reception and the limitations of the touchscreen are the same on both.
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The desire has the same 3g reception problem???? 0.o
Never heard of that one before. I guess not enough people has the desire yet.
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The desire has the same 3g reception problem???? 0.o
Never heard of that one before. I guess not enough people has the desire yet.
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That, or they just don't wine about it as much as Nexus One owners do (T-Mobile especially).
I'm in the same boat as you.. (my contract with t-mobile is up in 40 days).. I too am going with the nexus one over the desire and other phones.
Desire has the same identical touchscreen as Nexus, so no pros on the touchscreen. I think you have confused desire with the droid incredible.
I enjoy every second I pass with the N1, I even forgot my girlfriend
vegetaleb said:
I enjoy every second I pass with the N1, I even forgot my girlfriend
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That can't be right, LOL
vegetaleb said:
I enjoy every second I pass with the N1, I even forgot my girlfriend
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Same here, lol, but my GF is constantly stealing my N1 from me, she loves the games on it.
Yesterday, at 1am, while still playing with it, she proclaimed that this is actually a "Family phone", so she has a right to use it all the time..
I guess I'll end up buying another one for her.
Yep, the ol lady is making noises. lol
N1:
1. N1 looks sexier than Desire.
2. N1 will get better attention from google.
3. N1 has active noise cancellation.
4. N1 has better development scene.
5. No SenseUI (I'd like to use google's interface).
6. Better support from community.
7. Tri-colour trackball notifications
Desire:
1. Desire has optical trackball.
2. It has more RAM (+50 I guess).
3. Comes with FM (I guess N1 will get it activated in the next update).
They both have the same touchscreen. So no advantages here...
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2. It has more RAM (+50 I guess).
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The Nexus One and the Desire have the same amount of RAM. They use the same SOC with 512MB of RAM. HTC must be combining the 64MB of RAM of another processor in the phone into their total while Google doesn't for their specs.
Out of all if these new phones coming out, the only feature I really wish my Nexus had is HDMI out. I could care less about the new screens, or higher res cameras with HD recording (the main upgrades you'll find in the newer phones).. Some people definitely will, but I don't. If none of those three features really matter to you, you can't go wrong with the Nexus. Performance wise there really isn't anything that's even been announced that will trump the N1 in terms of speed and power.
If it comes down to the Desire and Nexus, and you value custom development, then pick the Nexus.
There isnt such a difference between the N1 and the Desire ( except for the noise cancellation, form factor, trackpad, ). They share the same specifications and while the Desire has a bit more RAM on paper, I dont think it will make any difference in performance. The touchscreen technology is THE SAME on both phones, only the Incredible has the new touchscreen technology so hah !!! I currently have the N1 and I have to say that I love every bit of it. If i had a chance to choose one more time between the N1 and the desire, I will still go with the N1 for some subjectively unspoken reasons ( lol ), and I LOVE the glowing notification trackball of the N1, which is just SO cool and not many android devices are equipped with !
There is a thread in the Desire subforum about it's reception dropping when picked up.
te_quiero_forever_girl said:
There isnt such a difference between the N1 and the Desire ( except for the noise cancellation, form factor, trackpad, ). They share the same specifications and while the Desire has a bit more RAM on paper, I dont think it will make any difference in performance. The touchscreen technology is THE SAME on both phones, only the Incredible has the new touchscreen technology so hah !!! I currently have the N1 and I have to say that I love every bit of it. If i had a chance to choose one more time between the N1 and the desire, I will still go with the N1 for some subjectively unspoken reasons ( lol ), and I LOVE the glowing notification trackball of the N1, which is just SO cool and not many android devices are equipped with !
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The HTC Evo also has the new touchscreen. People are not paying it much attention yet..
Mokurex said:
I'm still debating on which phone to get right now, and wanted some opinion from Nexus One owners. Aside from aesthetic, which is totally personal preferences anyway, should i still get one now that the desire is out? Seeing a lot of people rooted their phones to get the desire rom anyway.
1. Froyo update before anyone else.
2. You hate Sense UI
Anymore? 0.o
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Are both available in Thailand? If so, what's the price difference?
It seems that N1 is the most stable of all the handsets I have seen. Another plus is that it gets all the updates first without the bloat.
Unfortunately it isn't publicly sold anymore so whats the next best thing?
I am on AT&T.
It is sold in the developer section of Google's android site. But it's for T-Mobile. I guess for at&t it would be the Samsung galaxy s phone.
What about HTC desire...?
i've seen some websites where they hint that it may include 850Mhz band for UMTS... it seems there is a provider either in Austria or Italy using these frequencies....
I am actually getting two androids.
One is the Galaxy S once the dust clears on froyo and hardware issues.
I also wanted an N1 like device for its stability and ROM updates. HTC Desire seems like the closest alternative but do I still have to wait on HTC to release their custom brewed ROMs? There also seems to be some minor hardware differences that make the N1 better.
Either that or you still have to wait on OpenDesire team to release adapted Nexus firmware for Desire when it comes out. The latter one takes much less time.
They are on craislist and ebay, I own 2 myself on Tmobile both purchased from said locations.
Craigslist will be better. I did locally. Att version cost more on eBay. Something about not available through Google bullchit. They will try to rip you off. After I bought the iPhone 4 and sold to buy my n1. I called every n1 owner to find out I they had att version. Pay much less too. For a one month old unit. Can't beat that. And don't regret it. But now alot of new phones coming soon. I hear that g2 is going to available through bell Canada. U could wait for that.
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garyHal said:
I also wanted an N1 like device for its stability and ROM updates. HTC Desire seems like the closest alternative but do I still have to wait on HTC to release their custom brewed ROMs? There also seems to be some minor hardware differences that make the N1 better.
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The Desire was released later than N1 and it has better multi-touch support (out of box), More RAM, Enabled FM transmitter etc- which i think makes Desire a better device on specs! But on software updates- N1 still beats all android sets though it aint that hard to keep Desire up-to-date aswel i guess!
Just laying down the records- i like my N1 better as far as time goes- on looks n updates.. but would love to have a Desire 'if i can have it for free i.e'
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The Desire and the N1 have identical hardware, including RAM.
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The Desire and the N1 have identical hardware, including RAM.
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Yeah they've identical but not quite the same-
1. Desire has New touch sensor (Better multi-touch- nexus has problem distinguishing between fingers at time)
2. More RAm- 576 MB as opposed to N1's 512
3. Newer Bluetooth- 2.1+ vs N1's 2.0+ EDR
4. Desire is Dual-band- N1 is Tri-band
5. N1 has Noise-Cancellation- Desire Doesn't
6. Desire has better power-management than N1 (Tests on other sites)
7. N1 is Google-Dev Phone so will get faster updates while HTC ofcourse will play catch-up!
Umm That's as much as i could gather up- correct me if i'm wrong
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Yeah they've identical but not quite the same-
1. Desire has New touch sensor (Better multi-touch- nexus has problem distinguishing between fingers at time)
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doesn't the Desire also use the Clearpad 2000? If yes then it's the same as the N1.
@lukesky: sorry for my mistake- yes the desire has the same sensor as nexus and same multi-touch problem as nexus aswel.. Synaptics sensor wasn't originally made for multi-touch and thus the problem!
New phones seem to use Atmel MaxTouch sensor which is made for multi-touch and can track upto 16 points and is faster/responsive than the Synaptics!
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I am selling one on ebay right now. Feel free to check it out.
lots of N1's on ebay, ATT's are not very common but usually dont go for much more than T-mobile 3G ones. i've seen used ones in the past 2-3 weeks go for anywhere from 350-450
i got mine off craigslist locally for 300, it was a steal of a deal, most people in my area are asking the same as what they go for on e-bay 350-450+ once again though ATT's are few and far between but they are out there.
N2 is on the way.
N2 is on the way.
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SO with so many NexusOne owners wanting the Desire ROM, I wonder if there are as many or more, Desire owners wanting the NexusOne ROM?!
Personally, I only reaaallllyy dislike having a physical trackball on my Nexus.
It kind of detracts from its sleekness. Otherwise, I LOVE IT!
There is no replacement for the best Android device made. Maybe if the Nexus Two is a reality that would be a great alternative but never a replacement. I am a very proud owner of the Nexus One with all the extras, desk top dock which I run my music thru to my boss stereo system and it is killer. I bought the G2 because it looked like the Nexus One's brother, great phone but not a replacement, there is only one Nexus One, get one if you can. I have had more phones then carter has pills and the Nexus One rules.
garyHal said:
It seems that N1 is the most stable of all the handsets I have seen. Another plus is that it gets all the updates first without the bloat.
Unfortunately it isn't publicly sold anymore so whats the next best thing?
I am on AT&T.
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Dude!>!?!?!? Craigslist has them!!! Good deals!!
I have the N1 and I bought the Desire for my wife. After playing with hers I've seen it to be about the same as far as usage and functionality. The screen however is much better than my N1. I had to get her the A183 model for use on ATT.
Btw the new CM6.1 candidate build has enabled FM radio for N1. No longer just a feature for the Desire .
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Htc sensation is promising
Sony Ericsson's Xperia Arc isn't bad either
Any of you guys plan to get a new phone? With all the problems/issues i have with my Hero, I think it's time to get a new phone.
I'm waiting for the Nexus S, then I'll (sadly) sell my Hero...
I recentenly received a Htc Desire Z for my birthday and my mom says I need to sell it. But I don't want to because it has such good memories
I'm really considering the venue pro from dell and give W7 try. I'm not letting go android yet but W7 seems promissing.
BISDAKinLA said:
I'm really considering the venue pro from dell and give W7 try. I'm not letting go android yet but W7 seems promissing.
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I think W7 looks like the lamest OS for phones ever. the tiles concept in my opinion is ridiculously dull, typically windows though! I reckon id get bored of the orange (orange?!) tiles within a few days. especially after all the customisation ive been able to do with android
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Any of you guys plan to get a new phone? With all the problems/issues i have with my Hero, I think it's time to get a new phone.
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Desire HD
Also, what problems do you have with the Hero? This is by far the best phone I have ever owned.
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I think W7 looks like the lamest OS for phones ever. the tiles concept in my opinion is ridiculously dull, typically windows though! I reckon id get bored of the orange (orange?!) tiles within a few days. especially after all the customisation ive been able to do with android
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i think its too early to criticize the OS granted it just came out couple of months ago and I'm sure there are plenty of updates along the run.
Zebwen said:
Desire HD
Also, what problems do you have with the Hero? This is by far the best phone I have ever owned.
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problem connecting to bluetooth on my car or any device
it takes forever to call someone by pressing the people button
weather not showing on time widget
LAG
I don't know if rooting my phone solves most of my issues above.
f_padia said:
I think W7 looks like the lamest OS for phones ever. the tiles concept in my opinion is ridiculously dull, typically windows though! I reckon id get bored of the orange (orange?!) tiles within a few days. especially after all the customisation ive been able to do with android
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You can change the orange tiles you know? To answer the original post, i'll be getting either a Samsung omnia 7 or a desire hd next month. Most probably the omnia 7 though, just because I love how simplistic wp7 is and how its so different from all the other OS'.
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I can guarantee that rooting your phone and loading a froyo rom will undoubtedly fix the bluetooth problem. I had the 2.1 official update until a few days back and then rooted and loaded the FroydVillain 1.6 rom. Previously I could pair with my Nokia BH-504 headphones, but when using them on a call they would hang due to a software incompatibility of the official ROM with the BT stack of the headphones.
Now they work perfectly. So will your car BT. I cannot be 100% sure, but I'm pretty confident on a 95%.
Your other problems with the phone are lag related. On Froyo the phone flies. No more lag, the Froydvillain rom has a overclock/underclock utility to ensure maximum performance with even better battery life. Trust me. Use it.
And if you have the 2.1 update then there is an almost 1-click root method on the villainrom.co.uk forum.
I wanted to get the Desire HD but because of the stock issues with carriers, just went to o2 and got my self a Htc HD 7 and just loving it
I havent used a windows phone before but i think Microsoft has done a decent job, although a software update will go long way with more apps in the market will help as well
guys the 4:3 inch screen phones are goody, dont even feel like using my comp any more.
I'm due to upgrade my GSM Hero on January 4th. I'll definitely miss it but I always like to get a new handset come upgrade time.
I'm currently torn between the Desire HD and Galaxy S, however both of them have issues that bother me. The main ones being:
Desire HD - Battery life is reported to be very poor. Speaker quality not great. Possibly a bit too big also. LCD screen not as good as Samsung AMOLED.
Galaxy S - No Sense UI. Suffers lag out the box (fixed with custom ROMs and tweaks). Also quite a platsicy phone compared to the HTCs I'm used to. Looks like an iPhone 3GS. Also, it doesn't bode well for Samsung when XDA members can fix things they themselves can't!
I'm almost tempted to wait it our for the new series of dual-core Android handsets like the LG Star / new Moto phone but I'm not sure if / when they will be released in the UK. The Galaxy S II and Nexus 2 are tempting too but again, it's a case of if / when they are released in the UK.
One thing is for sure though, I'll definitely be sticking with Android.
BISDAKinLA said:
i think its too early to criticize the OS granted it just came out couple of months ago and I'm sure there are plenty of updates along the run.
problem connecting to bluetooth on my car or any device
it takes forever to call someone by pressing the people button
weather not showing on time widget
LAG
I don't know if rooting my phone solves most of my issues above.
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Root your phone. If your planning on replacing it anyway, and hate it this much, just root it. Tehres lots of one-click root tools now. So do that, then install clockworkmod recovery, and install a decent ROM. DONE.
Zebwen said:
Root your phone. If your planning on replacing it anyway, and hate it this much, just root it. Tehres lots of one-click root tools now. So do that, then install clockworkmod recovery, and install a decent ROM. DONE.
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Thanks, I'll try to root my phone this weekend.
I was thinking of upgrading my Hero as well and was planning on getting the Nexus S but that has left me very underwhelmed so I'm not going to bother. There's nothing else out there that I'd be willing to spend my hard earned on.
I think many of us wanted the nexus s.....not sure now
I'm gonna change it for the Nexus S in january. The Hero has been great but its time for something new
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Have ditched my Hero
Hi Guys,
After lots of fun with my Hero and the great ROMs that are around here made it more fun.
Today I became the proud owner of the Desire HD how great is this huge screen, and the speed. It makes the Hero look so obsolete!
Still this was my best phone ever! Androided and rooted for life thanks to my Hero.
Ofcourse going to root my Desire HD!
It seems as though the Desire HD is the upgrade of choice from the Hero.
Hopefully us Canadians will get a version that will support our 3G bands soon
I got sick of waiting for updates and waiting for Arabic language support , so I bought an iPhone 4 . I still have the htc hero and I will keep it for one more year .
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Ordered the Desizre Z earlier
Not sure what to do with this, maybe keep it and take it out when there's a chance I could lose/damage my phone, or sell it to envirofone or something for about £90 (which will also pay my early cancellation fee for Vodafone)
Hi Everyone,
I recently switched from Verizon to T-Mobile last weekend and picked up the new Sensation 4G with my plan. I like the phone, but then recently realized the Nexus S was on T-Mobile (some reason I thought it was AT&T). I'm not sure if I want to keep the Sensation now and swap to the NS within the 14-day period you get when signing a new contract to return the phone. The Sensation has a lot of functionality and customization, but the phone feels kinda laggy and buggy almost.
Now in my area, I don't have 3G/4G for T-Mobile so the 4G speeds aren't really felt with my Sensation so that isn't a concern for me dropping to a 3G-only phone. I have played with the NS at a Best Buy in the past and the demo unit was pretty beat on, rough shape so I might need to check it out again at another store to see if I like it. I have had the Hero, Incredible and now the Sensation so I am a pretty big fan of Sense UI so I am not sure if I would miss it a lot going back to vanilla android.
What is everyone's opinion on switching? Would you keep the Sensation and hope that performance will be better with updates (or eventually rooting/flashing ROMs) or switch to the NS while I can? Trying to get a lot of opinions on this and making my final decision this weekend.
If it makes you feel any better, I went from a G2x to a Nexus S. Sick of the Carrier/Manufacturer games.
My first phone was the G1, so I am a big fan of stock Android. I can't really get into the Sense UI on my work Thunderbolt. I find the stock Gingerbread UI to be the best UI Android phones have ever had. I've also used Samsung's TouchWiz and liked that more than Sense.
I contemplated switching to the HTC Sensation 4G because I am due for an upgrade (my contract has expired from my G1), but after working with the HTC Thunderbolt, I don't really like the quality vs my Samsung Nexus S. People kept saying the quality of the Nexus S is bad (mostly because it has a plastic back cover, big whoop), but I find it to be a solid phone and it is very fast. I have had zero problems with slowness or sluggish use. I am going to find it difficult to switch to another phone for a while I think.
I too went from a g2x to the nexus an and I'm not looking back. The nexus a is a fantastic device.and dual core is just hype, no real difference unless your a hardcore gamer.
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I also tried the G2X and went back to my Nexus S and I am not looking back. The NS built quality is solid and the phone is fast. Don't let the folks who say there is to much plastic fool ya, I have dropped mine twice and it keeps right on running.
The super amoled screen blows the G2X and Sensation screens away and I also have mine rooted running the CM7 nightly with the netarchy custom kernel which is proving to be a great combination and very stable.
At the moment there is not much development in the forum of custom ROM's for the G2X or HTC Sensation which is a sticking point for me. Just my opinion.
I would stick with the HTC sensation. Bigger screen, better camera. Especially if Sense is something you're used to, rather than the vanilla android. Only thing that the HTC Sensation will be lacking in, is updates. The Nexus will get updated 1st. But if you're the kind of guy who likes to mod and install ROM's, that is a moot point.
Since the Sensation is also a newer phone, it'll hold it's moneytary value better than the Nexus S.
I'd go w/ the Nexus S. I too had the G2x, but I've had the NS for about 2 months now and haven't looked back. The screen is beautiful (especially after you root and get a kernel with the 2.3.2 color drivers or voodoo color), and I really like the form factor of the phone, too (slight curve, completely black on the front, etc.). Sure, it's all plastic but that doesn't bug me as it does others.
FWIW, I had an evo on Sprint and didn't particularly like the phone. I had 3 - 1 new and 2 refurbs - because they all developed dust under the top left corner of the screen. Also, it was heavy and too big (I think a 4 inch screen is the sweet spot). The Sensation can't fix that it is big and heavy, although it does have a higher number of pixels than the NS. I also think the back of the phone is fugly.
Sure, the NS isn't the most powerful phone out there and there are things we all wish it had (hello, an sdcard slot?) but its a great phone. And pure Google, so you'll be getting the updates first. For God's sake the N1 has Gingerbread on it and manufacturers (I'm looking at you, LG, and your G2x) still release phones with FroYo.
Thanks for all the input, the main reason I like Sense is the widgets that HTC makes. They are very handy and even though most of the widgets are duplicated by apps in the market, they just seem to "flow" better on Sense.
I have had 7 android phones so far so I have had a taste of everything almost (Vanilla - G1, MyTouch, Moto Droid) (Sense - Hero, Incredible, Sensation) (Motoblur - Droid X, bleh). I messed around with the Nexus S at the local Best Buy and the form factor was surprisingly good IMO. Had a good feel and decent-sized screen and was very responsive with vanilla Gingerbread.
I think it will depend on how much of a hassle it would be to swap out the phones on the plan. I got the Sensation at the T-Mobile store and the Best Buy rep said I would have to return the phone to that location and they would maybe have to notate on the account that I returned it and then go to the Best Buy store to get the NS. Will have to talk to T-Mobile this weekend as the location I went to was out of town.
Is anybody having GPS issues or anything like that with their NS? I have heard of many Galaxy S phones having lock-on issues and don't know if that transferred over to the NS as well.
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Is anybody having GPS issues or anything like that with their NS? I have heard of many Galaxy S phones having lock-on issues and don't know if that transferred over to the NS as well.
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Nope not for me at least. Most people say it locks faster ii agree
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Thanks for all the input, the main reason I like Sense is the widgets that HTC makes. They are very handy and even though most of the widgets are duplicated by apps in the market, they just seem to "flow" better on Sense.
I have had 7 android phones so far so I have had a taste of everything almost (Vanilla - G1, MyTouch, Moto Droid) (Sense - Hero, Incredible, Sensation) (Motoblur - Droid X, bleh). I messed around with the Nexus S at the local Best Buy and the form factor was surprisingly good IMO. Had a good feel and decent-sized screen and was very responsive with vanilla Gingerbread.
I think it will depend on how much of a hassle it would be to swap out the phones on the plan. I got the Sensation at the T-Mobile store and the Best Buy rep said I would have to return the phone to that location and they would maybe have to notate on the account that I returned it and then go to the Best Buy store to get the NS. Will have to talk to T-Mobile this weekend as the location I went to was out of town.
Is anybody having GPS issues or anything like that with their NS? I have heard of many Galaxy S phones having lock-on issues and don't know if that transferred over to the NS as well.
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No gps issues but htc phones seems to lock gps faster btw the sensation is a great phone and HTC widgets work better cause they actually. Made them and all to ones in the market are the copycat imo I would stay with the sensation better build quality and i'm pretty sure you will get ice cream update sometimes next year, and nexus s is a great phone but in tmobile it doesn't have hspa +. So that kind of sucks and the speaker is not as loud if you watch youtube a lot you will prefer the sensation, that's just my opinion I got the nexus s just to wait for the HTC evo 3d(sensation brother). But I do not like the build quality on it so I might just get something else or stick with verizon Thunderbolt
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and nexus s is a great phone but in tmobile it doesn't have hspa +. So that kind of sucks and the speaker is not as loud if you watch youtube a lot you will prefer the sensation, that's just my opinion I got the nexus s just to wait for the HTC evo 3d(sensation brother). But I do not like the build quality on it so I might just get something else or stick with verizon Thunderbolt
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I don't have 4G in my area and outlook isn't the greatest for the future on it so I am not too picky about missing that.
The speaker on the sensation is on the backside of the phone so it's usually muffled and quiet when I set it down. Not a fan of that location.
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I don't have 4G in my area and outlook isn't the greatest for the future on it so I am not too picky about missing that.
The speaker on the sensation is on the backside of the phone so it's usually muffled and quiet when I set it down. Not a fan of that location.
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Mm then maybe the nexus is not a bad choice after all I would stay with eitheir one If you really ok with vanilla android go right ahead and get the nexus s
Picked up the NS tonight! Loving it so far! Thanks for all the feedback
Be aware that the nexus 4g radio will idle a lot. You will not be connected to the internet when it does that and you will not receive push mail or gtalk messages. Or anything else that pushes. It does not fail over to 3g. These are reasons I will probably go to the evo.
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I think your claim is a little off base. I receive everything fine even when 4g is idle.
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Be aware that the nexus 4g radio will idle a lot. You will not be connected to the internet when it does that and you will not receive push mail or gtalk messages. Or anything else that pushes. It does not fail over to 3g. These are reasons I will probably go to the evo.
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I'd wanna wait for the next nexus actually. Having gone through HTC's and the SGS I really must say that stock android works the best. My Desire Z has been waiting for forever for the gingerbread 2.3 update, my old SGS on the other hand went for months without updates until samsung finally delivered the goods early this year
THE SGS2 is a different beast though. I'm mighty tempted to do the upgrade, I really believe that even the next nexus won't be able to match the hardware of the SGS2. Only the software. Samsung is a LARGE company with a lof of cash to burn and capital to spend. They can easily flex their muscle for better parts, chips and other components. Look at HTC and the way they've been skimping on everything.
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Be aware that the nexus 4g radio will idle a lot. You will not be connected to the internet when it does that and you will not receive push mail or gtalk messages. Or anything else that pushes. It does not fail over to 3g. These are reasons I will probably go to the evo.
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No worries on this if it is true, I got the T-Mobile (3g-only) version.
mikeyinid said:
I think your claim is a little off base. I receive everything fine even when 4g is idle.
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Untrue. Tested and found to be the case. You pro ably have something polling every 5 minutes or so which forces a connection. You will not get instant push.
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I think your claim is a little off base. I receive everything fine even when 4g is idle.
Be aware that the nexus 4g radio will idle a lot. You will not be connected to the internet when it does that and you will not receive push mail or gtalk messages. Or anything else that pushes. It does not fail over to 3g. These are reasons I will probably go to the evo.
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I will try ans video document but you can try it yourself. Just check it stays idle and email yourself.
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i would say it depends if you dont really bother about updates than just go for sensation it has better ram much better cpu belive it does make diffrent. alot of time my nexus s 4g browser shuts down it self becouse of lack of memory ram..specially when im watching HD video streaming..another thing htc got notification light..alot of pre installed apps which some of them are handy and useful with nexus s u have to install it from market . and new sense is awesome soooo depends on you what u like and what u want..check both phones and go what ur heart says
Anyone care to speculate if HTC is feeling pressure to put a One on the play store?
Assuming the criteria would be:
-unlocked bootloader
-Stock Android
-Small price reduction (or price match to Dev edition 650)
Personally this woul be a very very good option for a Canadian such as myself. The One is definitely my first choice but Samsung is doing such a good job at luring me in with the things I value. HTC only seems to go half way, especially since Samsung just raised the bar and went full android, so to speak.
Speculate away!
nilism said:
Anyone care to speculate if HTC is feeling pressure to put a One on the play store?
Assuming the criteria would be:
-unlocked bootloader
-Stock Android
-Small price reduction (or price match to Dev edition 650)
Personally this woul be a very very good option for a Canadian such as myself. The One is definitely my first choice but Samsung is doing such a good job at luring me in with the things I value. HTC only seems to go half way, especially since Samsung just raised the bar and went full android, so to speak.
Speculate away!
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I don't think HTC feels anything like that. As many people said, S4 nexus is expensive for many people and its not like everyone wants stock android. It'll be directed to a certain group of customers.
I definitely agree that a stock S4 is for a very select group of people. I'm not sure how that is too much of a deterrent for HTC... actually I don't understand HTC's actions at all. They always go halfway, it's like the marketing/lawyering departments have the leadership by the balls... Sort of like when the wife lets you buy a new sports car but she only approves small block engines that are sporty. Not the same thing at all!!
How much does it cost HTC or Samsung to strip and maintain a phone to AOSP?
I can't imagine the HTC One with out Sense 5. It makes it for me (as well as the build etc).
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I can't imagine the HTC One with out Sense 5. It makes it for me (as well as the build etc).
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I agree, I will chose Sense 5 over stock any day. Now if it was Sense 4.1 or touchwiz I can understand wanting it gone, but Sense 5 is so great IMO. I wouldn't mind the option, but things like camera (getting the image chip to work with pure android) and battery life seems to be what always keeps my HTC phone away from the pure android feel.
I have used plenty of HTC phones in the past and most of them had some form of HTC sense on them, and i have always preferred sense over stock. My last device was a nexus 4 which was pure aosp, and while it was definitely not bad, i found myself wanting sense on it all the time. I get that people have their own preferences, but htc builds their devices around sense and optimises sense to use on their hardware. I don't think HTC would release a aosp version. It would be nice if it did because we would get updates faster, but i don't see that happening anytime soon.
I read an article yesterday about some HTC Employee who tweeted something along the lines of "You can pay $649 for a cheap bit f plastic...or you could wait " Maybe HTC has something already in the works?
*EDIT* Found another article stating that HTC have denied rumours that they will be releasing a "Nexus" HTC One.
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-denies-htc-one-nexus-edition-plans-15282252/
Dharkan said:
I don't think HTC feels anything like that. As many people said, S4 nexus is expensive for many people and its not like everyone wants stock android. It'll be directed to a certain group of customers.
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^^ This. I feel releasing an aosp SIV especially not under the Nexus moniker is nothing more then another attempt to saturate the market and artificially inflate sales numbers. I think for that tiny community who doesnt root an aosp out of the box is a viable option. Look at our community though, we have aokp, cm, pa and all that jazz. For the larger community of rooters and flashers it just seems redundant to me.
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I have been using AOSP on all my devices since the very beginning, but for some reason i find myself really enjoying sense, i tried flashing CM10 but i did not like it =/ im just going to patiently wait for sense 5.1 4.2.2
I mean you could just get the dev edition and put cm10 on it, will take 5 minutes to flash
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I mean you could just get the dev edition and put cm10 on it, will take 5 minutes to flash
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Way too buggy
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I would like to add that putting something on the play store increases online availability dramatically. It's generally difficult to buy unlocked cell phones online without paying an extra premium. Especially if you don't live in the US! Yes there are ways but the party store is very accessible and hassle free. As a Canadian this is a huge plus. Just look at how many of us are screaming to get access to a Dev edition.
I've had to spend over 100 bucks in services for the privilege of doing so and then warranty suddenly becomes a huge issue. This is a huge reason the S4 is appealing as a person who doesn't do contracts.
I didn't like AOSP on my HTC One, for some reason sense is so freakin smooth and the eco system is amazing.
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I have been a nexus user for 3 years and personally prefer sense after switching to HTC one. Sense 5 is really awesome
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Maybe I should give sense a try... I'm seriously hooked on AOKP though... The level of customization is superior to none! Or maybe I an missing something.
Pretty much that is my end game desire. HTC one with 64GB and AOKP ponies.
I should apologize! Apparently the xperia Z pushed to aosp long before the S4. This really make me consider HTC stepping up to the plate as a real possibility since all the kids on the block are doing it.
Throwing it into the play store might not happen though.