Keep HTC Sensation or go Nexus S? - Nexus S General

Hi Everyone,
I recently switched from Verizon to T-Mobile last weekend and picked up the new Sensation 4G with my plan. I like the phone, but then recently realized the Nexus S was on T-Mobile (some reason I thought it was AT&T). I'm not sure if I want to keep the Sensation now and swap to the NS within the 14-day period you get when signing a new contract to return the phone. The Sensation has a lot of functionality and customization, but the phone feels kinda laggy and buggy almost.
Now in my area, I don't have 3G/4G for T-Mobile so the 4G speeds aren't really felt with my Sensation so that isn't a concern for me dropping to a 3G-only phone. I have played with the NS at a Best Buy in the past and the demo unit was pretty beat on, rough shape so I might need to check it out again at another store to see if I like it. I have had the Hero, Incredible and now the Sensation so I am a pretty big fan of Sense UI so I am not sure if I would miss it a lot going back to vanilla android.
What is everyone's opinion on switching? Would you keep the Sensation and hope that performance will be better with updates (or eventually rooting/flashing ROMs) or switch to the NS while I can? Trying to get a lot of opinions on this and making my final decision this weekend.

If it makes you feel any better, I went from a G2x to a Nexus S. Sick of the Carrier/Manufacturer games.

My first phone was the G1, so I am a big fan of stock Android. I can't really get into the Sense UI on my work Thunderbolt. I find the stock Gingerbread UI to be the best UI Android phones have ever had. I've also used Samsung's TouchWiz and liked that more than Sense.
I contemplated switching to the HTC Sensation 4G because I am due for an upgrade (my contract has expired from my G1), but after working with the HTC Thunderbolt, I don't really like the quality vs my Samsung Nexus S. People kept saying the quality of the Nexus S is bad (mostly because it has a plastic back cover, big whoop), but I find it to be a solid phone and it is very fast. I have had zero problems with slowness or sluggish use. I am going to find it difficult to switch to another phone for a while I think.

I too went from a g2x to the nexus an and I'm not looking back. The nexus a is a fantastic device.and dual core is just hype, no real difference unless your a hardcore gamer.
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I also tried the G2X and went back to my Nexus S and I am not looking back. The NS built quality is solid and the phone is fast. Don't let the folks who say there is to much plastic fool ya, I have dropped mine twice and it keeps right on running.
The super amoled screen blows the G2X and Sensation screens away and I also have mine rooted running the CM7 nightly with the netarchy custom kernel which is proving to be a great combination and very stable.
At the moment there is not much development in the forum of custom ROM's for the G2X or HTC Sensation which is a sticking point for me. Just my opinion.

I would stick with the HTC sensation. Bigger screen, better camera. Especially if Sense is something you're used to, rather than the vanilla android. Only thing that the HTC Sensation will be lacking in, is updates. The Nexus will get updated 1st. But if you're the kind of guy who likes to mod and install ROM's, that is a moot point.
Since the Sensation is also a newer phone, it'll hold it's moneytary value better than the Nexus S.

I'd go w/ the Nexus S. I too had the G2x, but I've had the NS for about 2 months now and haven't looked back. The screen is beautiful (especially after you root and get a kernel with the 2.3.2 color drivers or voodoo color), and I really like the form factor of the phone, too (slight curve, completely black on the front, etc.). Sure, it's all plastic but that doesn't bug me as it does others.
FWIW, I had an evo on Sprint and didn't particularly like the phone. I had 3 - 1 new and 2 refurbs - because they all developed dust under the top left corner of the screen. Also, it was heavy and too big (I think a 4 inch screen is the sweet spot). The Sensation can't fix that it is big and heavy, although it does have a higher number of pixels than the NS. I also think the back of the phone is fugly.
Sure, the NS isn't the most powerful phone out there and there are things we all wish it had (hello, an sdcard slot?) but its a great phone. And pure Google, so you'll be getting the updates first. For God's sake the N1 has Gingerbread on it and manufacturers (I'm looking at you, LG, and your G2x) still release phones with FroYo.

Thanks for all the input, the main reason I like Sense is the widgets that HTC makes. They are very handy and even though most of the widgets are duplicated by apps in the market, they just seem to "flow" better on Sense.
I have had 7 android phones so far so I have had a taste of everything almost (Vanilla - G1, MyTouch, Moto Droid) (Sense - Hero, Incredible, Sensation) (Motoblur - Droid X, bleh). I messed around with the Nexus S at the local Best Buy and the form factor was surprisingly good IMO. Had a good feel and decent-sized screen and was very responsive with vanilla Gingerbread.
I think it will depend on how much of a hassle it would be to swap out the phones on the plan. I got the Sensation at the T-Mobile store and the Best Buy rep said I would have to return the phone to that location and they would maybe have to notate on the account that I returned it and then go to the Best Buy store to get the NS. Will have to talk to T-Mobile this weekend as the location I went to was out of town.
Is anybody having GPS issues or anything like that with their NS? I have heard of many Galaxy S phones having lock-on issues and don't know if that transferred over to the NS as well.

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Is anybody having GPS issues or anything like that with their NS? I have heard of many Galaxy S phones having lock-on issues and don't know if that transferred over to the NS as well.
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Nope not for me at least. Most people say it locks faster ii agree
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srt4mn said:
Thanks for all the input, the main reason I like Sense is the widgets that HTC makes. They are very handy and even though most of the widgets are duplicated by apps in the market, they just seem to "flow" better on Sense.
I have had 7 android phones so far so I have had a taste of everything almost (Vanilla - G1, MyTouch, Moto Droid) (Sense - Hero, Incredible, Sensation) (Motoblur - Droid X, bleh). I messed around with the Nexus S at the local Best Buy and the form factor was surprisingly good IMO. Had a good feel and decent-sized screen and was very responsive with vanilla Gingerbread.
I think it will depend on how much of a hassle it would be to swap out the phones on the plan. I got the Sensation at the T-Mobile store and the Best Buy rep said I would have to return the phone to that location and they would maybe have to notate on the account that I returned it and then go to the Best Buy store to get the NS. Will have to talk to T-Mobile this weekend as the location I went to was out of town.
Is anybody having GPS issues or anything like that with their NS? I have heard of many Galaxy S phones having lock-on issues and don't know if that transferred over to the NS as well.
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No gps issues but htc phones seems to lock gps faster btw the sensation is a great phone and HTC widgets work better cause they actually. Made them and all to ones in the market are the copycat imo I would stay with the sensation better build quality and i'm pretty sure you will get ice cream update sometimes next year, and nexus s is a great phone but in tmobile it doesn't have hspa +. So that kind of sucks and the speaker is not as loud if you watch youtube a lot you will prefer the sensation, that's just my opinion I got the nexus s just to wait for the HTC evo 3d(sensation brother). But I do not like the build quality on it so I might just get something else or stick with verizon Thunderbolt
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jgalan14 said:
and nexus s is a great phone but in tmobile it doesn't have hspa +. So that kind of sucks and the speaker is not as loud if you watch youtube a lot you will prefer the sensation, that's just my opinion I got the nexus s just to wait for the HTC evo 3d(sensation brother). But I do not like the build quality on it so I might just get something else or stick with verizon Thunderbolt
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I don't have 4G in my area and outlook isn't the greatest for the future on it so I am not too picky about missing that.
The speaker on the sensation is on the backside of the phone so it's usually muffled and quiet when I set it down. Not a fan of that location.

srt4mn said:
I don't have 4G in my area and outlook isn't the greatest for the future on it so I am not too picky about missing that.
The speaker on the sensation is on the backside of the phone so it's usually muffled and quiet when I set it down. Not a fan of that location.
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Mm then maybe the nexus is not a bad choice after all I would stay with eitheir one If you really ok with vanilla android go right ahead and get the nexus s

Picked up the NS tonight! Loving it so far! Thanks for all the feedback

Be aware that the nexus 4g radio will idle a lot. You will not be connected to the internet when it does that and you will not receive push mail or gtalk messages. Or anything else that pushes. It does not fail over to 3g. These are reasons I will probably go to the evo.
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I think your claim is a little off base. I receive everything fine even when 4g is idle.
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Be aware that the nexus 4g radio will idle a lot. You will not be connected to the internet when it does that and you will not receive push mail or gtalk messages. Or anything else that pushes. It does not fail over to 3g. These are reasons I will probably go to the evo.
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I'd wanna wait for the next nexus actually. Having gone through HTC's and the SGS I really must say that stock android works the best. My Desire Z has been waiting for forever for the gingerbread 2.3 update, my old SGS on the other hand went for months without updates until samsung finally delivered the goods early this year
THE SGS2 is a different beast though. I'm mighty tempted to do the upgrade, I really believe that even the next nexus won't be able to match the hardware of the SGS2. Only the software. Samsung is a LARGE company with a lof of cash to burn and capital to spend. They can easily flex their muscle for better parts, chips and other components. Look at HTC and the way they've been skimping on everything.

grifforama said:
Be aware that the nexus 4g radio will idle a lot. You will not be connected to the internet when it does that and you will not receive push mail or gtalk messages. Or anything else that pushes. It does not fail over to 3g. These are reasons I will probably go to the evo.
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No worries on this if it is true, I got the T-Mobile (3g-only) version.

mikeyinid said:
I think your claim is a little off base. I receive everything fine even when 4g is idle.
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Untrue. Tested and found to be the case. You pro ably have something polling every 5 minutes or so which forces a connection. You will not get instant push.
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I think your claim is a little off base. I receive everything fine even when 4g is idle.
Be aware that the nexus 4g radio will idle a lot. You will not be connected to the internet when it does that and you will not receive push mail or gtalk messages. Or anything else that pushes. It does not fail over to 3g. These are reasons I will probably go to the evo.
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I will try ans video document but you can try it yourself. Just check it stays idle and email yourself.
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i would say it depends if you dont really bother about updates than just go for sensation it has better ram much better cpu belive it does make diffrent. alot of time my nexus s 4g browser shuts down it self becouse of lack of memory ram..specially when im watching HD video streaming..another thing htc got notification light..alot of pre installed apps which some of them are handy and useful with nexus s u have to install it from market . and new sense is awesome soooo depends on you what u like and what u want..check both phones and go what ur heart says

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I miss my Nexus s :(

I got the lg g2x (ugly phone)on release date.
Since i was eligiable for an upgrade i decided to go with the g2x after reading all the reviews and specs i gave my wife the NS
5 days after
I miss the screen
How the NS Feels on my hand
G2x is fast but i havent really notice nothing really impresive
2.2 and god knows when 2.3 update will arrive
G2x camera sucks
Speakers are to low
Two Pros: 4G and HDMI tv output
Thankfully i got a defective unit (screen bleeding) so i will be returning my g2x today.
Should i get a replament unit or get myself another Nexus S?
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The same thing happened to me...
I returned G2x....back to Nexus S
If you already are disappointed and miss your NS, then why do you actually need our "permission" for this ? Just go for it ! If we would've said get another G2x instead of a new NS, would you have done this ? I, for one, wouldn't have. So yea man... just go for it, especially if you already know how the NS is and feels. Then you CAN'T go wrong.
Wait for sg2 or HTC sensation is what I think I would do just cuz dual core more future proof IMO I do like my nexus but Google isn't what its all cracked up to be IMO
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The main reason I haven't got the G2X is because of its looks (Fugly little monster xD) but anyways, I did notice the camera was a lot better than the NS. Surprised to see you say it sucks lol. T-Mobile did say that 2.3 is not far away and also Cyanogen has been working on getting CM7 onto it which will definitely be 2.3.3
Anyways, I'm extremely happy with the Nexus S and besides a slightly faster phone with improved camera I don't see much of a reason to get the G2X.
I was going to make the jump to T-Mobile, and I held off a couple weeks to try the G2X. I was wary about service at my new place, because my AT&T didn't get any reception. I wanted to get something with UMA, and G2X seemed like the best phone with 4G and WiFi calling. Now that I've realized that I get perfect reception at my home, I don't need to stick with the G2X. After reception and battery issues with the LG, I'm welcoming the delivery of my Nexus S with open arms. I love the screens on my Focus and my old Captivate, so I'm really looking forward to Super AMOLED again.
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Wait for sg2 or HTC sensation is what I think I would do just cuz dual core more future proof IMO I do like my nexus but Google isn't what its all cracked up to be IMO
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I dunno about that. Play with an Atrix for a week and then get back to us
God knows I wont try that again.
I would go back to the sexy nexy Nexus-S is a bad ass device, who cares about dual core right now, I would wait until "Ice cream" update is out, for true dual core support, and then get the newest Android phone out at that time, which will probably be a dual core Nexus-3.0 that will be first phone with "Ice Cream" 3.1.
So get the Nexus-S now and have fun. And upgrade to the Nexus-3.0 next year.
Agreeing with the one saying that you don't need our permission. When I saw the G2X I fell in love, but I knew deep down that I would't love it as much as I love my Nexus S. You see, in the future there will be something similar to the Nexus S, the Galaxy S2. It will have better specs, and offer the same development ( or similar) that the Nexus S provides( unlocked boot loader). Trust me, keep your Nexus S and wait for that xD
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I dunno about that. Play with an Atrix for a week and then get back to us
God knows I wont try that again.
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Why is the atrix that bad?
htc fan89 said:
Why is the atrix that bad?
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Take a look at the atrix section. It's all threads about no boot loader unlock, themes, returns, and problems. I liked my atrix for a few days. Then gave mine back.
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Why is the atrix that bad?
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It's a boring device, sorta how the iPad 2 is right now, since it can't be jailbroken as of now you just use it like a normal human being, which is impossible for me.
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It's a boring device, sorta how the iPad 2 is right now, since it can't be jailbroken as of now you just use it like a normal human being, which is impossible for me.
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What he said. But even with jailbreaking a device, customization is still very limited compared to a Android device with access to root / custom recovery.
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I thought the G2X was extremely sexy, sure it looks a lot like the iPhone 4 but the edges were nice and for a 4inch device it felt amazing in the hand, I also loved how the speakers were not on the back, but the bottom(which makes it a great media experience).
Still, I would go with my NS.
Why didn't you guys did what I did got g2x when it came out and also kept my ns so I can switch between devices whenever I feel like. They're both nice phones I think when 2.3 comes out for g2x will be a lot better phone than it is.
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Well the G2X just doesn't have the same look and feel as the Nexus S
you see the Nexus S looks like it was the only device on the planet to run stock Gingerbread, the device is all black, and so when you look at the status bar it blends in with the body of the device. The curved display just makes it look so distinct as well, and plus you can't forget about stock Android. Plus the specs are really not that noticeable. Yes that beast processor is better but the multi tasking experience would have been about the same.
I am currently on a sgs. Is it a good idea to change for a nexus s? Or should i wait for the sgs 2???
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you see the Nexus S looks like it was the only device on the planet to run stock Gingerbread, the device is all black, and so when you look at the status bar it blends in with the body of the device.
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Couldn't agree more ! Well said.

Nexus S vs EVO 3D (in limbo in which I should get)

Ok, so I have a dilemma. At first, when sprint announced the EVO 3D, to me, there was no question I would get it. After HTC announced a locked bootloader (? clarification on what exactly is locked), I am asking this question. What is better, a stock (worst case scenario) Evo 3D, or a modified Nexus S? I know modifications make a HUGE difference (just ask my HTC Hero ) as far as performance goes, so the simple question is, what would perform better? Gaming is a huge factor for me too-- which is the better gaming device (I actually heard the nexus s has a better video card so I might have my question answered already)?
And obviously, the 3D is garbage to me, so don't take that into consideration. The only thing I hate about the Nexus S that has a draw on the EVO 3D is the 1080p vs SD on the Nexus (which is crazy). If there was even a 720p video capability on the nexus (hopefully by a hack) then I would be content with that.
TIA and sorry if this is a really dumb question!
although the nexus s isnt 720p, the vid/pics are actually quite good. and in all honesty, the "720p" on the evo's 8mp was straight garbage. basically the only real advantage the evo has is the dual core.
also, if u do plan on the ns4g, check out wirefly. they have a special right now, $99 on new contract, $149 on upgrade. no activation/shipping/taxes!
My upgrade isn't until July 1st so i'll have some time before I get my upgrade. As far as the processor goes, which is the real major difference, how much better "real world" performance will the evo3D get over the Nexus S (not meaning benchmarks)?
honestly who says it will? qualcomm "showboated" a 1.5ghz dual core cpu with the new adreno 220 in the gl benchmark, it got only 11 fps better then the stock nexus s. why do i say only? a brand new gpu, a dual core 1.5ghz vs a 1ghz cpu and what many consider outdated hardware, and it only got 11 fps. the evo3d is supposed ot have a 1.2ghz version of this chipset, so even lower performance (stock mind you.. if they hack it it will increase obviously). want more proof that the nexus s is still rockin? go to glbenchmark.com and look at the top devices, the ipad 2 (sgx543) is the top of the list, meanwhile the nexus s is number 5 (SGX540) as the top PHONE (all other devices are tablets).
i dont even consider the evo3d an upgrade for the price they are gunna want for it, meanwhile if you want raw power, best just wait for the samsung galaxy s 2. its been kickin in a lot of doors and take'in a whole lot more names
I'd say Nexus phones only forever, but I'm biased and hate all forms of manufacturer interfaces.
Sense, Touchwiz, Motorblur etc is the cancer killing Android. Lots of people disagree with me though.
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Even after the 3d evo comes out I think the super amoled screen and official Google support will continue to make the nexus s a compelling device.
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Also, upgrading from an HTC hero with their sense UI I have to admit that I would choose pure 2.3 all day long.
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I used the Evo since August so for probably about 8 months or so and I just switched to the ns4g with no hesitation and love it. On the Evo I used ADW launcher so I did not even have sense running so for me I got a better faster lighter phone. It was a no-brainer in my opinion and I like the "pure Google experience". I also have two friends that went from the Evo to ns4g and they feel the same. I say take the ns.
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Also, upgrading from an HTC hero with their sense UI I have to admit that I would choose pure 2.3 all day long.
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Well I actually have a GB rom on my hero (thats why it's running so much smoother) and I love the vanilla GB look. I can't stand sense, so from a UI standpoint, I already prefer NS>>>E3D
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I'd say Nexus phones only forever, but I'm biased and hate all forms of manufacturer interfaces.
Sense, Touchwiz, Motorblur etc is the cancer killing Android. Lots of people disagree with me though.
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Wouldnt that be the beauty in Android and what makes it what it is? The customization and the limitless options available. The way it can be tailor fitted for the end user? Ultimately isnt that one of the things we love so much about it?
Well...thats why I like it anyway...
You're in limbo......that sucks. What is that, four levels down or five?
Well put it like.this.how.much.do you enjoy wiping and flashing your phone.
Evo 3d looks great but honastly I work and cant apend my time flippong around on it......besides we got tablets nlwadays
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Well put it like.this.how.much.do you enjoy wiping and flashing your phone.
Evo 3d looks great but honastly I work and cant apend my time flippong around on it......besides we got tablets nlwadays
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Well, if I feel like I'm upgrading every time I flash (which on my hero, seemingly every flash has been a speed boost), then I'm not opposed to it at all.
On a side note, my brother has his upgrade right now, and he is in town this weekend and I am supposed to help him pick out a phone. I'm gonna try to convince him that the Nexus S is worth the $150 over the LG optimus S, which he thinks he wants cause it's free (waste of an upgrade imo [he's upgrading from a palm that is like 2 years old, so actually, anything is about an upgrade]).
My question to you guys, that will hopefully solve mine and his problem. How is the Nexus S as a two year phone? How well do you think it will hold up down the road? I'm not the kind of guy who can afford to buy a new phone out of contract (paying full price), being a college student, but come upgrade time, I am willing to dish out $200+ (but not much more) on a phone that I will be happy with for 2 years. I know that may seem like a lot to ask for with technology, and it's probably a lot to ask for you guys to predict the future too lol. So, do you think the Nexus S will be dead 2 years from now (when my upgrade following then next upgrade is)? Considering the phone will have been out for 2 and a half years plus, I am wondering this question...
I just found out that the evo 3d screen can display 16m colors much like the nexus, I'm going to give the nexus a few more weeks to see if I want to return it. Otherwise I'll keep it. But the evo is rumored to be $199 same as the nexus so this will be a hard decision.
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the nexus 1 is still getting official updates, and even then after that. look how long your hero lasted due to the community, you really think that NO ONE will be making anything for it? at the very least it will have cm support for a while.
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I just found out that the evo 3d screen can display 16m colors much like the nexus, I'm going to give the nexus a few more weeks to see if I want to return it. Otherwise I'll keep it. But the evo is rumored to be $199 same as the nexus so this will be a hard decision.
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Are you thinking about returning it because of the EVO, or is there something about the Nexus S that you don't like? Just curious to hear your opinion.
I am never going back to a non Google phone. The joy of not immediately rooting to remove a ton of crap is a beautiful thing. Add to that the priority updates. I'm sold. It may be a Samsung phone hardware wise but without the terrible and slow Samsung software support.
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I would bank on the nexus s to be the way to go. I think carriers and handset makers make new phones outdated themselves (software wise) so they can keep pushing out new phones with the newer software to make more money. Eventually the phone in question will receive an update if they choose to do so maybe 2 months, 6 months, or even a year later. This is why I usually keep getting new phones, just to keep up on the latest software without having to flash all the time dealing with instability and bugs. The nexus line will always get these updates straight from Google with no BS. The nexus specs aren't bad and its fast enough for me. Dual core would be nice but you have to ask your self is it really even needed. The nexus will be up to date for a while I assume with no strings attatched.
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Well what made me go Nexus was two phones. The Samsung Moment and Samsung Epic.
The Moment got crap for support and not even sure to this day if a dev ever fixed the evdo lock ups and terrible GPS.
Then the epic with its crappy eclair gps. Then the delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed Froyo update. Which still had crap gps. That was later fixed. Sorta. The best was when they sent a rep to xda to calm down the pissed off users about the delayed Froyo upgrade we were promised in Nov. What made me jump was this phone already had Gingerbread and Netflix support and know Google wastes no time getting updates out. I love Samsungs hardware but their software division sucks. No more of that jazz.
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Ditto
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I am never going back to a non Google phone. The joy of not immediately rooting to remove a ton of crap is a beautiful thing. Add to that the priority updates. I'm sold. It may be a Samsung phone hardware wise but without the terrible and slow Samsung software support.
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no carrier crap = win
I thought i downgraded by giving up my Epic ,but this phone is fast no doubt.

Phone decision help.. (stay epic or use nexus 4g)

I just bought a nexus off ebay in random thought of upgrading my gf from her utterly annoying and pathetic samsung intercept. Now my problem is that I can't decide if its worth it for me to switch from my beloved epic to a nexus... Is the gpu better in the epic or nexus or same? I can live without the keyboard if theres something there besides ICS. Little help/opinion is appreciated especially from those who've had first hand usage.
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I was wondering the same thing, since Sprint has the Nexus for free until today. I don't play that many games, so top of the line isn't something I have to have.
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I just bought a nexus off ebay in random thought of upgrading my gf from her utterly annoying and pathetic samsung intercept. Now my problem is that I can't decide if its worth it for me to switch from my beloved epic to a nexus... Is the gpu better in the epic or nexus or same? I can live without the keyboard if theres something there besides ICS. Little help/opinion is appreciated especially from those who've had first hand usage.
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Its Pretty much an epic with more roms (ics, official cm7, official miui, sense, blur, ics touchwiz, sonys ics ui, and many more). Same gpu. If you don't use your keyboard much, its probably best to pick nexus.
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Thanks, I think I'm set now switching from my epic My gal would rather have a keyboard any way.
Waiiitt, the Nexus S 4G is free?! Do you need to be eligible for an upgrade?
Edit: Never mind, I see you do. Damn!
wouldn't it be better to stick with EPIC for now ( since Sprint should be releasing LTE phones in 2012 ) ?
you probably should stick it out, but if you want to switch its not a whole lot different.
My friend has the nexus s and from my playing with it there are a few negatives that i saw:
1. camera always makes the pictures upside down, every picture i get from them is upside down.
2. no gorilla glass
3. no keyboard obviously (not a major issue but for some on here it is)
but the pluses are obviously android updates in a timely fashion and more support for roms. and its a little sleeker and lighter.
just my thoughts
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you probably should stick it out, but if you want to switch its not a whole lot different.
My friend has the nexus s and from my playing with it there are a few negatives that i saw:
1. camera always makes the pictures upside down, every picture i get from them is upside down.
2. no gorilla glass
3. no keyboard obviously (not a major issue but for some on here it is)
but the pluses are obviously android updates in a timely fashion and more support for roms. and its a little sleeker and lighter.
just my thoughts
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Also:
No Micro SD slot.
No native 4G toggle.
Camera app is inferior and is limited to 480p on video recording.
No physical camera shutter button.
With the release of Gingerbread, the devs here have really managed to have turned the epic into a best of class phone. It's pretty awesome now.
ICS should be awesome on the Nexus and official support should be great. Just keep in mind the limitations of both phones. It's a close race for me at this point in time.
Stay with the Epic check out the Cyanogenmod forum.
Stay with the Epic and use your upgrade for an LTE 4G phone. Flash the latest cyanogenmod ROM. This is much better than the Nexus Rom the only downside is no 4G.
Stay epic!!!!!!
Whatever gets you laid.
Do remember upgrades are now 2 years not 1 so in 6 mths you will be punching yourself when they release a quadcore lte nexus lmao
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I would keep both the Nexus and the Epic. I had the same problem with my gf's phone she had a horrible LG Optimus S so I got her a used HTC Evo 4G and put CM7 on it and she loves it. I know this doesn't help you but I'm just saying this because my gf didn't want to really use her phine to its full potential she just wanted a good phone. Maybe your gf would just want a decent phone?
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Phone came today and my gf looked at it was like candy LOL.... with that being said I ended up activating the phone for her. I don't have my upgrade available till sept/oct next year so I'm stuck waiting for a lte phone.
I've seen more than one of these threads, I guess I'll throw in my opinion:
Stick with the Epic. It is still a beast when it comes to power and development for it is still continuing with quite a few people still using it. And it has a physical keyboard
Wait for some LTE phones to come out also. I for one would love to see a good (Android) HTC phone on Sprint again.
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Since i'm one of the few who actually read the op and knows that he ALREADY BOUGHT BOTH, i'm not going to answer "save your money" like some of the others here...
Nexus S by far feels more "solid", I owned the epic until the release date of the nexus s and having used both extensively I really think i'm justified in saying that the nexus s is just overall a better user experience.
The keyboard for me was useless because of the dropped keys and I like the thinner profile of the nexus, not to mention both of my epics felt broken because of the sloppy hinge. The overall build if the nexus is just great
The nexus s is better ... But sprint should be getting the galaxy nexus soon... Why would you buy the nexus s thats so old?
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Since i'm one of the few who actually read the op and knows that he ALREADY BOUGHT BOTH, i'm not going to answer "save your money" like some of the others here...
Nexus S by far feels more "solid", I owned the epic until the release date of the nexus s and having used both extensively I really think i'm justified in saying that the nexus s is just overall a better user experience.
The keyboard for me was useless because of the dropped keys and I like the thinner profile of the nexus, not to mention both of my epics felt broken because of the sloppy hinge. The overall build if the nexus is just great
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Lol you get a pat on the back. The Nexus does feel solid and easier to hold vs my Epic, also 2.3.7 is super smooth stock.
Responding to post above:
I bought the phone as a gift for my gal to get her off a crappy intercept. I wanted a pure google phone and didn't care for anything else besides the Epic touch (which was priced far out of my range).

Moving on from Hero to Evo 4G LTE

After 3 years, I think I am going to renew my contract with Sprint and get the HTC Evo 4G LTE. According to a pole here, it looks like 8 others of us are as well. Who's going? If you can but aren't, why aren't you?
I'm going.
I just flashed nfinitefx's Sprint RUU on my Hero to get reacquainted with Sense hahaha.
Happy for you guys. Im going to the GS3 just seems all around better, HTC has been dropping the ball lately and sense gets boring fast time to try something new. EVO LTE is ok but battery life and no removable battery, no sd card slot, and HTC just kills the phone for me.
I'm going as well. Hopefully they ship the preorders today.
shawn1482 said:
EVO LTE is ok but battery life and no removable battery, no sd card slot, and HTC just kills the phone for me.
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The Evo LTE does have an sd card slot, and most of the (albeit early) reviews are reporting excellent battery life, in line with the other One X phones.
I was deciding between the GS3 and this phone.
I'm going to assume that the Sprint GS3 is gonna have the S4. If so, then the two things that the GS3 does better than the EVO LTE doesn't is the removable battery and a better camera.
The rest of the features of the S3 are gimmicky at most, smart stay is the only feature that I liked.
EVO LTE has better design, better screen, dedicated camera button (ME GUSTA), and a nicer UI.
But if Sprint gets the Quad-core version, then all bets are off D:
Interesting...first I considered the HTC EVO 3D, which many of us Hero's went to. Then I decided to wait for the HTC EVO 4G LTE, which I guess many of us are going to now too.
sorry to see you guys go, but hopefully if you still want to mess with your hero's from time to time there will be a group of us holdouts still working on things. i know ill be here until at least this coming fall when i get extra cash to buy a new phone.
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sorry to see you guys go, but hopefully if you still want to mess with your hero's from time to time there will be a group of us holdouts still working on things. i know ill be here until at least this coming fall when i get extra cash to buy a new phone.
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Yea, I'll probably flash ROMs here and there.
Still hoping for a stable ICS ROM for the Hero
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Happy for you guys. Im going to the GS3 just seems all around better, HTC has been dropping the ball lately and sense gets boring fast time to try something new. EVO LTE is ok but battery life and no removable battery, no sd card slot, and HTC just kills the phone for me.
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How has HTC been dropping the ball? I have a friend with the Galaxy I (epic I think) and was super disappointed in Samsung support, and only relatively recently got cyanogen. Plus, I was planning on the galaxy nexus, but by the time it came to sprint, it was already old. Wouldn't be surprised if the S3 is the same. And obviously this hero has done well for me, and my friend's evo 3D is like a tank. Furthermore, I like HTC's gesture of allowing bootloader unlocking (not that I will use their's).
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Im not defending the Galaxy 1 but your talking two years ago the S2 has ICS. EVO3D was just an Evo with updated camera i know people who have a GS2 and EVO 3D and the GS2 beats EVO hands down. As far as support i have a lot of samsung products and never had a problem in that department. Support for my phone doesnt matter since im on here if i needed help with anything. Lets be honest most people getting the LTE are going to flash a new rom without sense anyway so why get a sense phone. Its nice and all but I like the less intrusive touchwiz. Just a matter of opinion if the S3 isnt quadcore then i might have to look at the EVO LTE
I'm seriously considering the new EVO LTE as well. My only concern is 1) Going back to Sense after loving aosp on my hero for the last 1.5 year and 2) the size of the phone.
I'm not sure there's any getting away from the phone size, though. The only other viable option in my mind is the GNex and its almost as big. As far as going back to Sense and not being able to flash ROMs right away, i'll just have to deal with that until some awesome dev on here figures out how to crack it. That's the main reason i'm still considering the GNex. The ROM options are already pretty sweet for that. But, it seems clearly inferior in most of its specs to the LTE.
I'm going. Will still pop in here every so often, though.
bigmoneygrip23 said:
I'm seriously considering the new EVO LTE as well. My only concern is 1) Going back to Sense after loving aosp on my hero for the last 1.5 year and 2) the size of the phone.
I'm not sure there's any getting away from the phone size, though. The only other viable option in my mind is the GNex and its almost as big. As far as going back to Sense and not being able to flash ROMs right away, i'll just have to deal with that until some awesome dev on here figures out how to crack it. That's the main reason i'm still considering the GNex. The ROM options are already pretty sweet for that. But, it seems clearly inferior in most of its specs to the LTE.
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I woulnd't worry about the EVO LTE having a lack of developers. Most of the OG Evo devs (including some that used to be here) are definitely getting it.
Hell, regaw already posted a ROM for the phone, and it's not even out yet lol
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I'm seriously considering the new EVO LTE as well. My only concern is 1) Going back to Sense after loving aosp on my hero for the last 1.5 year
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I've heard sense 4 isn't as bad or intrusive. Not sure though.
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I've heard sense 4 isn't as bad or intrusive. Not sure though.
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Supposedly it isn't quite as bad - and from what I've seen, the UI is closer to stock than older versions of Sense, in a good way. On the other hand, there are still downsides to it, like the overaggressive memkill settings HTC put in, which make it tough to do true multitasking, along with the large - smaller, but still large - memory requirements. I've always liked Sense, though, and the memkill settings are easily fixed once root is attained.
I'm getting the EVO LTE, as long as Customs doesn't find heroin or anything in the shipment to further delay it. The Hero has been great. It was first Android phone so it will always hold a special place in my heart. But I've been ready for a "superphone" since a week after I bought my Hero. The EVO LTE is going to have top notch dev's, mod's, rom's and support. There is no question in my mind that EVO LTE community will out shine the GS3 community.
Yeah, I was anticipating the HTC EVO 4G LTE and I found out about the U.S. Customs delay. I was like oh no..., but now I find out that I have to wait longer because we're under some Sprint Wireless Advantage Club and it's essentially an employee account and they get phones a lot later to make way for customers...so I have to wait like a month or two. It depends. I can't wait until I can get the phone though.
I wish you all luck with the Evo LTE. One thing I noticed about people that buy HTC phones is that they seem to want to root and put AOSP on there HTC phones to replace sense . People do the same with samsung but not as much as large as HTC phone owners. Its as if you guys know sense is a memory hog and is pointless yet you'll still buy the phone.
I also am leaving the Hero but for the Galaxy S3, also the hero was my first android experience. Honestly sense has been around since windows mobile 6.1, but back then it was called touch flow. Not too much has changed just eats more memory now and looks a lot nicer. The battery life on these HTC phones is bad to simply put it and im not talking about people on these forums. I used an HTC sensation it went from 100% to about 30 in 4 hours. All im stating is a matter of opinion I could be wrong but thes are just my experiences with HTC.
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I wish you all luck with the Evo LTE. One thing I noticed about people that buy HTC phones is that they seem to want to root and put AOSP on there HTC phones to replace sense . People do the same with samsung but not as much as large as HTC phone owners. Its as if you guys know sense is a memory hog and is pointless yet you'll still buy the phone.
I also am leaving the Hero but for the Galaxy S3, also the hero was my first android experience. Honestly sense has been around since windows mobile 6.1, but back then it was called touch flow. Not too much has changed just eats more memory now and looks a lot nicer. The battery life on these HTC phones is bad to simply put it and im not talking about people on these forums. I used an HTC sensation it went from 100% to about 30 in 4 hours. All im stating is a matter of opinion I could be wrong but thes are just my experiences with HTC.
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Sense 4.0 is beautiful. I much prefer it over AOSP ICS IMHO. Even Sense 3.6 is aesthetically appealing. Not much of a lag due to the 1GB RAM in this phone. My battery life is wonderful and I spend all sending hundreds of texts a day, checking xda and constantly checking facebook.
私のEVO 3Dから送信される。
I agree with dastin. Sense has gone through a lot of changes but it gets better with each version. I've been running Sense 3.6(Mean ROM) too on my evo 3D and it runs great.
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Help me retire my nexus one

So I'm finally retiring my N1. It has been great to me, but my battery is starting to have calibration issues, the touch-response of the screen occasionally goes crazy, and I'm pretty sure one of the gyros is dying which makes all nav functions go a little nuts. I'm strongly considering going with the galaxy nexus now that it is in the play store, but I want to know if there are other contenders out there that I am missing out on. I'd love to get a Note, but I'm on T-Mob and I'm unsure of its performance on the network. I also desperately love the nexus series, but I've always been critical of Samsung phones from a build and materials quality standpoint.
Ideas?
Give it to me?
HTC One S
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I can't understand why people prefer to buy samsung's phones.
samsung did many illegal things(I'm korean)
and they only think of making money.
If I were you, I will buy holiday or One X.
I was excited for the One X, but the One S looks like a feature-removed version of the X, smaller screen, smaller battery etc..
As a former Nexus one user and a current Galaxy note user, I say go for the galaxy nexus. I loved my Nexus one so much, but had to part ways with it when my screen cracked. I miss having the PURE google experience. If you have the option, go for the note, you will not be disappointed by the BEAST. The huge screen is definitely something you will get used to, and will become dependent upon.
Does the note have the t-mob bands for hspa and 3g?
+1 from a former N1 user and recent purchaser of the Galaxy Nexus
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Have you gone into stores and extensively used both the GN and One S. They are both very nice. It will depend what features are more important to you. I found the One S with a gorgeous screen, VERY fast and smooth. Just as fast if not faster at loading web pages and rendering pages than the GN. Matter of fact on my particular times with the GN, it not not do as well as the One S when using the browser. The Snapdragon S4 is one of quickest out there. The screen size is excellent. I thought I wanted a 4.6+ or the Note, but think now they would have been too big for me. With the internal card I consistently get 10 to 13mb read speeds. Makes backing up to pc very quick. But, it still comes down to your specific needs.
I'm still on my N1 as well with TMobile.
I'm probably gonna go with Sprints new EVO since its the One X with the kickstand and a sdcard slot. Same price as well monthly as TMobile so no difference there.
Luckily my area is in the first round of LTE sites for them.
Now I'm just waiting for it to get thru customs and making sure the bootloader isn't locked before I order one.
Amazon Wireless has it for $150 with no activation fee at the moment.
if you don't like the one s, then i would go for the galaxy nexus.
sucks that t-mobile isn't getting the one x though
Well I jumped into the One S today. I'll play around and post a trip report. The sad thing is that I'm just gonna use it until the Jelly Bean nexuses come out
Lythandra said:
I'm still on my N1 as well with TMobile.
I'm probably gonna go with Sprints new EVO since its the One X with the kickstand and a sdcard slot. Same price as well monthly as TMobile so no difference there.
Luckily my area is in the first round of LTE sites for them.
Now I'm just waiting for it to get thru customs and making sure the bootloader isn't locked before I order one.
Amazon Wireless has it for $150 with no activation fee at the moment.
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IF my nexus one ever dies soonish, my next phone will be...
Another Nexus one.
Got a HTC ONE S and took it back the same day. It /looks/ like the spiritual successor to the N1 in form, the screen is bright, the camera is awesome, but...
I've been spoiled too much. Cyanogen on the N1, tethering without extra plans, TMobile wifi calling hacked onto it. And... well... It just works right.
Give it a bit, and the HTC S will be running great I hope and I'll revisit it, but it's hard to go to any phone without cyanogen now! (and Sense, even though it's 'light' on the HTC S is still obviously there).
VERY good to hear Google's going to be doing more than just one Nexus phone next cycle, so we get more of a choice of vanilla Android.
As is, I use the N1 for a phone, just bare apps loaded, and a bluetooth tethered GalaxyTab7 for anything else. Seems to be a good combo.
the galaxy nexus is a great phone im not a huge samsung fan but the phone is solid as well as feels nice in hand. and I still love my n1.
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So I'm finally retiring my N1. It has been great to me, but my battery is starting to have calibration issues, the touch-response of the screen occasionally goes crazy, and I'm pretty sure one of the gyros is dying which makes all nav functions go a little nuts. I'm strongly considering going with the galaxy nexus now that it is in the play store, but I want to know if there are other contenders out there that I am missing out on. I'd love to get a Note, but I'm on T-Mob and I'm unsure of its performance on the network. I also desperately love the nexus series, but I've always been critical of Samsung phones from a build and materials quality standpoint.
Ideas?
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this phone doesnt have a gyroscope, only an accelerometer
also, id suggest going for an HTC device .. sensation? or if you want the latest and greatest go with the oneX or oneS
orrrrrrrr if you enjoy fantastic plastic, the samsung built galaxy nexus isnt bad.. and the sgs3 is coming out soon
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Jyveafk said:
IF my nexus one ever dies soonish, my next phone will be...
Another Nexus one.
Got a HTC ONE S and took it back the same day. It /looks/ like the spiritual successor to the N1 in form, the screen is bright, the camera is awesome, but...
I've been spoiled too much. Cyanogen on the N1, tethering without extra plans, TMobile wifi calling hacked onto it. And... well... It just works right.
Give it a bit, and the HTC S will be running great I hope and I'll revisit it, but it's hard to go to any phone without cyanogen now! (and Sense, even though it's 'light' on the HTC S is still obviously there).
VERY good to hear Google's going to be doing more than just one Nexus phone next cycle, so we get more of a choice of vanilla Android.
As is, I use the N1 for a phone, just bare apps loaded, and a bluetooth tethered GalaxyTab7 for anything else. Seems to be a good combo.
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i love sense
to each his own but people are always complaining about sense being slow and bloated but ive never faced this
everything works together using the same libs and framework.. and you get everything from apps to widgets..
it definitely runs a LOT smoother than having multiple third-party apps bloating up the system
Just retired my n1...lack of memory and touch screen issues finally led me to it. Got a galaxy nexus and I would not go back.
I still have my n1 and the galaxy nexus is an upgrade in every way...exceeded my expectations.
I also believe the Galaxy Nexus is the perfect complement to the N1
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Does the note have the t-mob bands for hspa and 3g?
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Yes it does, only the AT&T i717 and Canadian i717 have pentaband radios.
The international version is not pentaband though
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Well a quick trip report. I've had the One S for about 2 weeks and it is phenomenal. Screen and camera are excellent, native ICS/sense is great, and the phone is FAST. Like really fast. I've never had a phone with sense on it because I hate the inherent slowness of sense but it runs like a dream so far.
Of course it's a carrier branded phone so it had a ton of bloat on it. Custom ROMs are plentiful however so that was a problem easily solved. So far I am very happy with my choice and feel like come november I can sell this phone for the $200 I gave T-mob for it and buy one of the new Google phones if I want.

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