I'm very pleased with my HD2 overall, but there's one area where it comes up short in comparison to the iPhone imo: in the default zoomed out browser page view, if you click on a link (which is small, but it does briefly change colour so you know the press has registered), nothing happens - I have to zoom in (with a pinch or double press) before it will work. This is the case in both Opera and IE.
Is there by any chance a config hack to sort this? I'm new to Windows Mobile, perhaps it's a known weakness? Because the link does highlight it makes me think this is more of a software issue than a hardware one, so ought to be fixable/hackable?
Thanks,
Andy
AndyGarton said:
I'm very pleased with my HD2 overall, but there's one area where it comes up short in comparison to the iPhone imo: in the default zoomed out browser page view, if you click on a link (which is small, but it does briefly change colour so you know the press has registered), nothing happens - I have to zoom in (with a pinch or double press) before it will work. This is the case in both Opera and IE.
Is there by any chance a config hack to sort this? I'm new to Windows Mobile, perhaps it's a known weakness? Because the link does highlight it makes me think this is more of a software issue than a hardware one, so ought to be fixable/hackable?
Thanks,
Andy
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when i go to google.nl and its zoomed out, i click on the right upper side to log in/sign in, so for me this aint no issue.
Just one bump in case anybody else has any thoughts (I appreciate that this isn't an issue for the poster above, but it is for me ).
You can search the forum for a solution (it was posted dozens of times across the place). You'll need to change zoom settings to achieve what you want.
Just note that you'll lose something as well. The current behavior allows you to activate onHover events (stuff that websites do when you move your mouse over an element). With default settings you get popups/menus activated without firing the link action (an option missing in the iPhone browser).
Yes, I'm having the same problem from time to time. Sometimes I can hit tiny targets and sometimes I have to zoom right in to hit a link. I guess it's just a matter of getting used to the capacitive screen.
mrturq said:
when i go to google.nl and its zoomed out, i click on the right upper side to log in/sign in, so for me this aint no issue.
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Thanks, I found the registry setting (software,opera,info,az_overview_threshold), reduced it to 32 and haven't noticed any obvious side effects yet. This makes a big difference for me, especially when I set the minimum font size to medium in the menu settings.
Just what the title says. cant find any tweak in google...
borgqueenx said:
Just what the title says. cant find any tweak in google...
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Try checking the settings...
Nagrom Nniuq said:
Try checking the settings...
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i have heard on youtube reviews it is not possible...thats why i am wondering.
the iphone browsing experience is great, and is full screen.
On the Leo it is not full screen, even when you zoom out.
what about ticking auto full screen in the settings menu?
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Just what the title says. cant find any tweak in google...
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I'm a little confused by this. Do you mean Opera 10? I only ask because the default Opera (9.7) that comes installed on the device is always in full screen, except when you use the menus.
same for opera 10.. always in fullscreen except when using the menus
maby i said it wrong...with fullscreen i ment viewing the whole page. only able to scroll down, not sideways.
Opera always goes to fullscreen mode automatically.
And actually it goes to REAL fullscreen, not like on the iPhone where you still have that bar on the bottom taking away screen real estate (that's already very limited on the iPhone anyway, with that low resolution and smaller screen).
Don't know where you found that information that Opera would not do this, but it's wrong.
You can turn that off in the settings, however.
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maby i said it wrong...with fullscreen i ment viewing the whole page. only able to scroll down, not sideways
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Ah yes, now I understand what you mean. Yes, you can do that also, by setting the "virtual screen width" higher.
if it still wont work, type about:config in your browser
and then go to user prefs and see if there are some options permanently activatet wich do not allow the browser to go into fullscreen!
This is what you're searching for:
- type about:config
- click on 'adaptive zoom settings'
- set 'virtual screen width' to 1000 (or something great enough for all the pages you visit)
- click 'save' and restart Opera
Thanks for the question, I'll include this in my next ROM
I like not having to scroll sideways, but was too lazy to change it
yeah thats it! i was to lazy to get my phone to look it up^^
freyberry said:
This is what you're searching for:
- type about:config
- click on 'adaptive zoom settings'
- set 'virtual screen width' to 1000 (or something great enough for all the pages you visit)
- click 'save' and restart Opera
Thanks for the question, I'll include this in my next ROM
I like not having to scroll sideways, but was too lazy to change it
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alrighty. thanks for the answer.
i think im gonna sell my 3Gs
Why won't the words go with the screen when you use multi-touch? Anyone else find this annoying?
kylez64 said:
Why won't the words go with the screen when you use multi-touch? Anyone else find this annoying?
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After zooming in, just double tap the screen real quick and it will re-align the text to fit. I think they did this so that the pinch to zoom would be smoother while trying to decide what zoom level you wanted.
try double tapping afterwards
I assume you are referring to the text not auto fitting to the screen after you zoom. I noticed this too and found it annoying but the go, is to simply double tap the screen after booming and it will fit the text to the screen.
That is what pinch to zoom does, it's just pinch to zoom. Goes as big or as small as you pinch. I know such an amazing feature we couldn't live without right? LOL It is nice to have but after using Iphone for 3 years I liked the doubletap method of Nexus automatically configuring zoom to text column size much better. Pinch to zoom is nice to have for the gallery and the maps though.
It worked on my Hero just fine. its just a bit of an inconvenience for me.
Dolphin Browser resizes the text for you, if you're using that then I have no idea what else could be the problem here. I didn't know people still use the default browser, it so. "default-ish".
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After zooming in, just double tap the screen real quick and it will re-align the text to fit. I think they did this so that the pinch to zoom would be smoother while trying to decide what zoom level you wanted.
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Huh? Doesn't double tap zoom out? If so, what's the point of pinching in and then zooming out again?
Paul22000 said:
Huh? Doesn't double tap zoom out? If so, what's the point of pinching in and then zooming out again?
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Its something Google added for the masses. With Multitouch, people can stop saying this phone is inferior to the iphone using that one point (it having multi-touch) as a basis.
Eclair~ said:
Its something Google added for the masses. With Multitouch, people can stop saying this phone is inferior to the iphone using that one point (it having multi-touch) as a basis.
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Who takes that seriously?
Hardware wise the Nexus is far better then the iphone
Software is more opinion based
Ive actually never owned or used an apple product so I can't compare, I found it rather boring
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Who takes that seriously?
Hardware wise the Nexus is far better then the iphone
Software is more opinion based
Ive actually never owned or used an apple product so I can't compare, I found it rather boring
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Tell that to the iphone users. You think the average, very average, as in teenage girls with puppies in their purses (I see that on TV.. lol) are going to care about superior "hardware". There going to look at the iphone, look at the Nexus One - and go "oh shiny", "oh I can zoom in and out with my fingers!".
The phone (Nexus One) can have all the superior hardware it wants, but there are thousands of ignorant people out there that believe the iphone is more superior than the Nexus One over simple things like multitouch.
But your question was "Who takes it seriously?", you may not take it seriously - but Google HAS to stop people from loving the iphone so much with any method they can ( at least I would believe). Exceeding with hardware was the first step.. and I'm going to infer that multi-touch was the 2nd step. I assume businesses must take even the most idiotic complaints into consideration..
Ok back to the topic at hand...
Am I wrong about the double tap thing?
It's not actually a double tap, but TWO double taps then, isn't it?
Or am I doing the double tap wrong, meaning there's a way to double tap to reflow without zooming???
Would be nice not to be comparing to the iPhone, but IIRC, I always had trouble getting the text to reflow when I zoomed in on a column of text on the iPhone. Maybe I just didn't try hard enough.
With Android, at least I can pinch, then double tap to reflow text. But that's not what I usually do - I usually just double-tap the element I want to zoom in on, and it seems to be readable-sized and in a single column. In other words, I like the Android pinch-to-zoom functionality in the Browser.
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Huh? Doesn't double tap zoom out? If so, what's the point of pinching in and then zooming out again?
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You might come across this problem if you have the "Open pages in overview" option unchecked in the browser settings. If it's unchecked, you'll be a bit zoomed in when a page loads, so double tapping will presumably zoom you out again.
In summary: if you're zoomed out (i.e. in page overview), double tapping zooms in and reflows text. If you're zoomed in a bit, double tapping zooms out to the page overview.
Well said... I completely agree with yah.
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Tell that to the iphone users. You think the average, very average, as in teenage girls with puppies in their purses (I see that on TV.. lol) are going to care about superior "hardware". There going to look at the iphone, look at the Nexus One - and go "oh shiny", "oh I can zoom in and out with my fingers!".
The phone (Nexus One) can have all the superior hardware it wants, but there are thousands of ignorant people out there that believe the iphone is more superior than the Nexus One over simple things like multitouch.
But your question was "Who takes it seriously?", you may not take it seriously - but Google HAS to stop people from loving the iphone so much with any method they can ( at least I would assume). Exceeding with hardware was the first step.. and I'm going to assume multi-touch was the 2nd step. I assume businesses must take even the most idiotic complaints into consideration..
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You might come across this problem if you have the "Open pages in overview" option unchecked in the browser settings. If it's unchecked, you'll be a bit zoomed in when a page loads, so double tapping will presumably zoom you out again.
In summary: if you're zoomed out (i.e. in page overview), double tapping zooms in and reflows text. If you're zoomed in a bit, double tapping zooms out to the page overview.
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Huh?
This will only work if you're 100% zoomed out then. This thread is about zooming in with pinch and zoom, and THEN using double tap, is it not?
As pjcforpres posted:
"After zooming in, just double tap the screen real quick and it will re-align the text to fit."
I think something is getting lost in translation here?
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Huh? Doesn't double tap zoom out? If so, what's the point of pinching in and then zooming out again?
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Here is what I am saying, I guess more clearly...
Do the pinch to zoom, then double tap the screen right after it. It won't zoom out, instead it will auto fit the text just like a regular double tap zoom. They did this so that the pinch to zoom is smoother and more fluid in it's motion, since instead of doing a bunch of resizings as it zooms, it does it once when you double tap the screen to let it know you are done zooming in.
Try it out, it is a great execution IMHO that sadly too many people haven't seemed to of figured out.
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Here is what I am saying, I guess more clearly...
Do the pinch to zoom, then double tap the screen right after it. It won't zoom out, instead it will auto fit the text just like a regular double tap zoom. They did this so that the pinch to zoom is smoother and more fluid in it's motion, since instead of doing a bunch of resizings as it zooms, it does it once when you double tap the screen to let it know you are done zooming in.
Try it out, it is a great execution IMHO that sadly too many people haven't seemed to of figured out.
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, ok. NOW I see. DAAAAAMN, that was confusing.
To clear it up for other folks, the trick is to double tap *immediately* after finishing zooming in. So double tap actually does two *completely* different things based on whether you wait 1 second or don't. I get it now.
Wow, that should be officially explained somewhere, haha. How the heck did you figure that out?!
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, ok. NOW I see. DAAAAAMN, that was confusing.
To clear it up for other folks, the trick is to double tap *immediately* after finishing zooming in. So double tap actually does two *completely* different things based on whether you wait 1 second or don't. I get it now.
Wow, that should be officially explained somewhere, haha. How the heck did you figure that out?!
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I am a genius!
I haven't had any problems at all with the pinch-zoom. I find that the double tab is perfect for reading text while the pinch zoom feature gives me added accuracy to choose a small link etc
I don't if it was mentioned somewhere in the thread but if you tap on the text it will auto center the paragraph. Another thing that's cool is that once centered, it stays snapped to the screen center so you can have perfect up and down scrolling. This has been around since day one.
When you click on a text box on the note most of the time it zooms in to far and you can't see what your typing, anyone else having this issue? You have to move the screen down then zoom out by pinching. Its so annoying none of my other android phone did this!
Nevermind it was my own fault it was the settings in dolphin browser that was causing the issue. This thread can be deleted!
Alexanderbooth said:
Nevermind it was my own fault it was the settings in dolphin browser that was causing the issue. This thread can be deleted!
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Which setting? Just curious!
Whenever I take a photo it seems to be always orientated in landscape. In the stock gallery app, the photo will automatically view in portrait, but in other photo viewers it'll display it in landscape. Is there any reason as to why it does this and anything I can do about this?
Check the settings in the camera app, you can pick one or the other.
What is that crap at the bottom?
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Check the settings in the camera app, you can pick one or the other.
What is that crap at the bottom?
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hahaha i know, i know. My friend mentioned that too. I just got around to rooting my device so I now have adblock
two problem though... the only thing i saw in the camera application was save as flipped and this is what happens when i check that option... also, my adblock doesnt seem to be working in this app