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HELP | TyTN unable to wake up after power off!!!

Guys
I am facing a really weird problem which is becoming increasingly frustrating and driving me nuts.
I usually charge my phone overnite using the stock charger. The phone powers off after a while as per the the settings (15 mins I think) and stays like that throughout the night. But in the morning it fails to wake up totally. Nothin works. So, I am forced to soft reset it everytime this happens. This has happened quite a few times now.
Any ideas why this might be happening? This is killing me because the alarms dont sound and the phone is totally dead in the morning.
ps. I am using the stock HTC ROM (1.18, 07/22), on Cingular UMTS.
Thanks in advance.
JoKer

Dude, I'm getting the EXACT same thing!!!! I'm using using the stock TyTN ROM! I have no idea what's causing it, or even how to fix it. I thought it had something to do with software, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. I need help too!!!!

) .. that's crazy .. maybe this is the next SA ... jk ..
but seriously ... maybe there are more folks with this prob ... let's see if anyone knows any more details about this or how to fix it ..
And the really strangest thing is that this doesnt happen to me in the day .. it powers off and wakes up fine .. but then it's never powered off for that long ..

Mine seems to happen when it's powered off for a given amount of time. It's insanely annoying because I have to reboot, and I hate rebooting the phone.

I've experienced a lot less of this behavior since moving to the 1.20 radio ROM...

I'm at the 1.20 radio, and I'm still having the problem.

I too am having exactly this problem. I have flashed the Cingular 1.34 ROM but it seems that the ROM doesn't matter. (I notice the bluetooth and or wifi lights are still on, the screen just doesnt come back to life).

Hi, you probably already tested this, but your device goes into standby mode with WiFi on it will become locked and unable to power on.
But it has happenned to me this sympton without WiFi connected.
Cheers

check out this search...there are a few topics on this already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=192877

Well I used to think there was some truth to the freezing being related to certain apps... and I suspected on mine it was PhoneAlarm causing problems.
Last week I hard reset and re-installed everything except PhoneAlarm but am having freezing if my TyTN is not used for some time (does not have to charge to freeze!)... And yes, I do kill ActiveSync and WiFi when I know I will not be using my phone for a while. My conclusion is that there's more to this and that maybe a newer ROM from HTC will address this - anyone know what the status is on this??
BTW, anybody else having alarms going off constantly on re-boot or MS VC reading out ca. 2 weeks of appointments on soft re-boot?

I still don't think there is a definitive answer on this. I've heard quite a few things to fix it; but I don't really have any of the software that's mentioned. Someone said it was because I had Opera installed (so I uninstalled it), then someone said it was because of the ActiveSync Advanced Network Connection option (I unchecked that), last someone said it was because of SBSH PocketWeather, and to take that off the today screen. Well I'd rather not do the latter, so I'll test these two and see how it goes.

I think it's the today plug-in issue. I hard reset and left off PW and it didn't lock-up for 2 days. But like you, I like it a lot.
So I'll deal with resetting it.

For me, it's just Pocket Plus, Resco File Explorer and WA Lite on the Today screen along with the standard stuff .. really nothin that needs to connect to the connect to the internet .. and still ..

The one that caused the TyTn not to wakeup was Wisbar Advance. Since removing it, I've not had any issues with the pda not waking up from power off.

Ok, what are you using in its place?

Well after uninstalling Opera, and unchecking the check box; I had the problem again! ( So annoying (.

Well i'll post my problem too
I have missed class twice in a week because the phone alarm never rang in the morning. The phone was frozen and i had to reset it in both cases. I always leave it charginf over night and now i'm afraid to turn it off anymore for fear of never waking me up in the morning
Adi

guys,
I am suspecting the issue is related to the today's plugin. After a few days of experiments, I believe the battery level reading utilities such as SPB pockets plus or Resco today plugin might be the one we are looking for.
Not only uncheck it, but also un-install it, hopefully, would help to solve the problem.
Mark

I have no today's plugin, just the standard stuff, en i do have the same problem

Give the Fake Server Trick a try, which worked for similar symptoms on the old Axim x51v: http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=112638
If your problems are caused by the same thing, then this is to do with Activesync launching itself automatically. This in turn causes windows mobile 5 to stop waking up from standby, requiring a soft reset. No idea why.
I did the FST straight away when I received my TyTN and I don't get any of the problems you describe at all. It's worth a go!

My Wizard has multiple bugs, need help solving

I understand that this forum is filled with developers. So I am hoping for some informed help. If you have any of these same problems please respond as well. I would like to know if these are isolated to my setup
I migrated from a cel phone and a PPC running WM2003/2003se. Mainly for the converged device, but also for the persistent storage. I run a small business, and and am very busy and rely on my phone and schedule all day everyday.
I have only had the wizard (MDA) for about 3 weeks and experienced odd problems since the first weekhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
. Unfortunately I did not buy new, so I am not sure if any of these are covered by warranty or not... I am just going to list the problems:
1) If I leave my phone plugged in at night to charge than by the time I wake up the phone will not come out of standby. I have to press the soft reset button to get the unit to work again. This happens intermittently
2) I use an alarm program so that the unit acts like an alarm clock. If the phone is plugged in at night, and does not experience problem number 1, than the alarm just won't go off. I turn on the phone and the alarm program is open, but it did nothing. If the phone is not plugged in than the alarm works fine.
3) Soft buttons. I have the registry set to remap what the soft buttons do. I use Agenda Fusion (Latest Version) so i have them set to open the calendar and the contacts to Agenda Fusions view of them. This works most of the time. On occasion the soft buttons just stop working except for running through the menus for reminders.....
4)The other day i went to take a photo, the camera said that it could not proceed because there was not enough memory. At the time I had 30 megs of storage free, about 12 megs of program free and about 900 meg left on my sd card...
5) Every so often the unit won't launch a program, it says that the exe is unsigned or not trusted. It works every other time though.
6) I use cLaunch. Every so often cLaunch disappears from the today screen. The only wat to get it to reappear is to remove it from the today screen from the today items menu, wait a couple of seconds and then return it to the today screen.
7) Every so often the unit stops recognizing the sd card..have to remove and re-insert
8) I use reminders for all my calender and to do items. Occasionally the reminder will go off for a certain item 24 hours in advance, even though the setting is correct in the item...
I feel like I am missing a few problems. But you get might point, WM5 is weird. All of the above can be corrected with a soft reset. But sometimes the problems show up multiple times a day. Causing me to have to soft reset in the most inconvenient times, several times a day.http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/mad.gif
I did not have these problems under WM2003. I have a friend who uses a Verzion phone that is similar to the wizard (made by a different company though, not HTC...it has an external antennae and that is where the stylus is stored as well) She and I were comparing phones today. Hers runs WM5 but she said that she has never experienced any of these problems in the 1 year that she has owned hers...
Is this an HTC Wizard problem? A WM5 problem with the wizards? Would it help if i installed on of the alternate roms that I read about here on XDA developers? I am considering a hard reset and starting from scratch but I don't want to go that route unless it is the only way. And if I do, I may just use one of those roms.....What does everybody think?http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
Sorry for the long winded post....

Seems like a software problem based on (1) and (2). Is the ROM an official ROM?

Re:
Hello Hanmin Thanks for responding,
Re Number 1. I just saw that some one else posted with that problem. So I will see if they have they same alarm program installed. I have wondered if everything is software related. Thats why I am hoping to see if others are having these types of problems, and if so, what programs they are using...
Re the rom...yes it the official T-mobile release, version listed in my sig.
Thanks again

New problem
I have just encountered a new problem:
While picking up my voice mail the system would not register my button pushes. Weather on screen or the hardware buttons. I could not interact with voice mail, nor could I end the call with the hardware button or the soft button....I had to reset the phone to end the call!!
How frustrating is that

Have you tried reflashing the original ROM? Being a used phone that would be the first thing I would do. It's going to wipe out all your data and return it to an "out of box" state, so i suggest backing up anything important and sync to your PC. If that doesn't work then you have a hardware issue but I'm willing to bet that should take care of it. You can find the original ROM on HTP's website. Good Luck

Thank you
Thanks for that suggestion....I am hoping to not go down that road, if I can help it. But I will do it if there are no other options. So If I may ask: How many votes does re flashing old Rom Get? And are there any other ideas?
Again Thanks. I am going to download the rom in case it does come to that....

wait...the phone dosen't wake up unless you push the small button on the top of the phone? That is not the default setting on the MDA, however it's acting naturally. Our phones go on a standby to save power. Click the battery icon in the lower right hand corner-->Click the Advanced tab--> uncheck Turn off device on external power

Misunderstanding....
When the phone is plugged in over night and reaches %100 charge some times it won't "Wake Up" even hitting the power button on top. The only thing that will turn it on is the "Soft Reset" button on the right side, beneath the IR sensor.

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It sounds like you have software problems - possible a corrupt notification queue - personally i would do a hard reset of the device - probably in the process of this i would soft reset before the t-mobile extras install - taking details of gprs, mms settings before this.
I would run the phone without installing software to see that its not a hardware problem. Then reinstall programs one by one and see how it goes. Some software like claunch is not made for wm5 so expect some glitches (i use claunch and get occ glitch)
If you dont want to hard reset check the notification queue for duplicates and rogue scripts using check notifications - attached - install via pc. Dont delete notifications important for system running - common duplicates are clock\calendar.

alarm problems
Hi,
frankly i had similar issues - less critical but annoying: alarm clock not waking me up, slow system, notification queue mess, difficult resets, camera issues, bluetooth a2dp skipping. I upgraded my Qtek multiple times, and finally i can say that 2.26 roms (i use molski's) are exceptionally stable and reliable. The problem is not Wm5, the problem is how buggy many released versions are. So, my suggestion: look to the forum, find roms that appear to have a reliable history, cross your fingers and...upgrade. Then, resist in upgrading to any rom that just came out and appear to be faster, cooler, nicer. Unless you have an issue to be solved, and you see 100 messages confirming that the rom is stable and does the job...

Thank you meschle and pzucchel for the thorough answers. I am going to try the notification queue first.
@ Meschle: where do I find the gprs, & mms settings? And should I just copy them down by hand? Then after re-starting w/out tmobile crap, do I just put these settings in the same place as where I found them?
@ Pzucchel: Do you believe that Molski's 2.26 is more stable than the Tmobile factory installed 2.26?
Thanks again

cameraddict said:
Thank you meschle and pzucchel for the thorough answers. I am going to try the notification queue first.
@ Meschle: where do I find the gprs, & mms settings? And should I just copy them down by hand? Then after re-starting w/out tmobile crap, do I just put these settings in the same place as where I found them?
@ Pzucchel: Do you believe that Molski's 2.26 is more stable than the Tmobile factory installed 2.26?
Thanks again
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Write them down manually its the safest way - there are cabs available but often dont work.
GPRS - settings\connections\connections\manage existing connectons - settings should be here prob named t-mobile
MMS - go into messages\menu\options\MMS\servers click on prob t mobile again.

Thanks again!

ameo freeze every day serveral times

Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks

tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Hi tvrman.
For starters, install Sprite backup (on one of the CD's you got with the Ameo). This will eradicate the need for a full install after a hard reset in the future!
I suggest you do a full hard reset anyway then install Sprite Backup utility.
Only put back your essential apps one by one with 1/2 a days gap between each installation and test the turn off turn on function.
Be sure to use the supplied X-Button application to ensure you properly clode apps down after you're finished with them....or use Wisbar Advance 2, which will do it for you....except for Active Sync (this will always remain active unless shut down manually in memory menu).
I have not once suffered the problem you have in over a months use of the Ameo....might be a faulty unit or a buggy ROM. What version ROM are you using?
Anyway, if all goes well over the next 3 days, do a full backup and save a copy to your storage card or micro drive and be sure to copy a copy over to your PC...that should future peoof you having to do a full install again in the future. And be sure only to back up, if you have no problems with the device and the problems you mentioned earlier. Otherwise you will allways restore the bugs in the device after a hard reset.
Hope this helps. keep us updated on how you get on.

Mackaby007
thanks for you professional answer, i was not aware that spd backup
was on the cd which was delivered at the ameo.
Well yesterday i found out that one of the programs (profimail)
which i'm using serveral times a day for my mail, that this is the problem
I found out that yesterday i didn't use profimail but the built in mail the
whole day and the ameo did not freeze at all the whole day
tried to turn it off an on the whole day and no problems at all,
yesterday late i start profimail and check serveral mails, i close profimail
and turn the device off, later turn it on and a black screen it would not
turn on
After soft reset everthing works.
So i will check today again without using profimail and see what's happends
again.
i'll let you know....

hi,
I had the same problem.
My solution was to format the mini-sd card.
So what i did:
1. copied all data on de minisd in a cardreader to a directory on pc
2. Formatted (not quick) the minisd
3. Copied all data back to the minisd.

All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert

tvrman said:
Hi,
i have everytime the problem that when i turn the ameo off,
it freeze when i turn it on, this is randomly so i cannot figure out
when this is happends, after soft reset it works again.
Is there a way to find out where the gab is?
tried to close every open application so far, and turn the most
used on after turn of the device.
I'll hope to find out otherwise i need to to the hard reset
(it took that serveral hours to install al again .
thanks
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Have you got a password to lock your phone try removing that see if it still locks , i was having the same issue

Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
Anyone else find this? Shame as it is the program I like the most
Robert
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No such issue here! WA2 runs like a dream on my Ameo...even better than it did on my Hermes or Prophet! I'm using the 2.8.0.2 version of WA2 without WAD.

WA2 + WAD
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?

skin
iPhone skin ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Software/iPhone.rar
I use a lot of apps. I also use the following plugins on WAD:
SPB Diary
Profiles for Windows Mobile
Windows Life Messenger

QAN said:
Yes, in my case it was also WA2. I made my own skin and all work fine. But in time I got more lock-ups. So I decided to reinstall everything. Then things went wrong. That day I have installed everything 6 times. Every time I had lock-ups when I pushed the power button and activated it again. But after disabeling WA I had no troubles anymore. The last production and beta version have the same problems. At this point I have to advice not to use WA2. I did not examine every feature of WA2. So there can be one feature that caused the problem. I made my own iPhone landscape skin and I was very pleased. Could somebody try this skin to see if it freezes their device?
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I'll give the skin a test run in an hour, but I refuse to use plug-ins again. They have always caused me problems, but WA2 never has. What version were you running?

Tried the i-phone skin and have experienced no issues whatsoever.
Maybe the Problem is WAD and your plug-ins.

WAD keep on giving problems like this...it's a sin for such an interesting application...here it is because I gave up to use it.

Mrsums said:
All the tests I have tried suggest it is Wisebar Advance 2 that is causing the freezing.
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I did some searching and found some suggestions it might be the skin I was using. I changed the skin and no more freezing.
Robert

trayap.exe
Since I removed the trayap.exe from the init part of the registry I did not have any freezing anymore. I will try WA2 again to see if this solves my problem.
By the way, I am using the latest beta's of WA2 and WAD

hi all
i find that if i use the off button to turn off the backlight whilst media player is running it jams the machine, requiring a reboot. i know that i can usethe light button on the keyboard but i sometimes forget that media player is running (ie. paused).

I have the same freezing problem now after a few weeks of usage.
The device was running very nicely but now, without installing anything further or adding anything to the device, it freezes randomly.
It likes to freeze when the backlight goes off, while I play MP3 files or have a phone conversation using bluetooth.
In the past 4 days I have softreset the device no less than 81 times.
I suspect the Microdrive is to blame. Is it sensitive to movement?
I will remove all my software and other files from the microdrive and see if things improve.
In the mean time, has anyone else experienced random and frequent freezing?
Oh, I have the Dopod U1000 branded device with the latest firmware.

ok, I had it with this. 16 more soft resets within 4 hours.
I hard reset the device. So far I see no random freezing, but I didn't install anything extra yet except ozVGA and VJBigPhone. And both of them on the internal memory, so nothing on the microdrive.

HTC HD - Settings freezing my phone :(

Hi,
This is my first post here and obviously it's a problem related issue.
I have my HTC TOUCH HD, for about 1 week now.
Everything worked great, until yesterday, when i tried to install the following:
- installed the HTC Hotfix for responsivness, seemed to work fine.
- than i wanted my phoen call to be announced with voice, so i tried to findVoiceCommand (cracked, shame on me)
- downloaded something from this forum, that was posted on rapid share.
Oh Joy and than the problems started:
- It gave an error when installing
- than o n reboot, it toook waaay to long to boot up.
- than i tried to go into the settings to remove it.
Now, EVERYTIME i try to enter the settings, it just freezes, i can not access anyting any more, not even the upper power button, only taking out the battery will work.
Rebooting, i used total commander (thank God i had it installed before) to delete the startup link for voice commander and the entiere voice commander folder.
Now, unfortunate this did not do the trick.
Accessing the settings button will still freeze my HD (
I am very very very frustrated, do not know how to restore it to previous state. Pretty please someone can guide me what to do ?
Thank you in Advance.
ps: everything else seems to work fine, though

Do you think hard reset is the best way??

Yes, unfortunate, this was my only solution.
After digging for more than 4 hours, sleeping 4 hours, digging more hours, i gave up and did a hard reset.
(i even had to digg that up too )
Now everything is back to normal, BUT my weather application is not updating through GPRS / 3G any more, only through wireless.
There is no option for me to set it through what connection it should connect
(Only in coinnection manager, and there its set fine, i already tried everything, and internet seems to work, just fine)

sneila said:
After digging for more than 4 hours, sleeping 4 hours, digging more hours, i gave up and did a hard reset.
(i even had to digg that up too )
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WIKI nr 32 of this page

Same thing happend to me. I have now managed to get back into my settings. I think there are two ways.
1. Use active sync to remove the program
2. I installed the 1.5 trail version (which doesn't run) but let me back into settings so I could uninstall MSVC and then uninstall the trail.
start up still seems a bit slow and the first time you press settings it is a little slow going in but after the first time it is fine.
The better option might be a hard reset but it isn't one for me at the moment as I have far to much stuff to re-install and setup. I really want MS voice commander but I am to scared to try and install any versions

sound like the program had a virus maybe

go to startup in windows explorer and remove the shortcut related to it. this will solve the problem.

Damn stop listening to people that quickly tell you to hard reset.
I had a similar problem in which i couldn't access Settings to remove the program that was causing it.
I connected the phone to ActiveSync and you can easily the program from there. Problem solved.

Another way to uninstall would be to launch the CAB file again (the one with the "bad" program). You will asked if you should remove the old version first, say yes, then cancel installation when it asks where to save the new version. Together with a soft-reset thereafter, in most cases it should work out ...

[QUESTION] Looking for Culprit

My phone just turned off on it's own today. The minute I turn it on...5 sec. later it shuts down again. It continues to do this now all the time. I reinstalled the ROM from bootloader...no problem here
I don't think it's was the ROM (Seatone: SONE 2.1) as I went through Seatone's thread. (& yes, I hard reset after ROM install)
But what I'm trying to figure out is, which app was responsible for this event?
Last Installed APPs
• Magic Mobile
• SensorScroll v.05
Checked above APP threads with no issues that match...
Not saying it's the above apps but I'm just mentioning what things I did last in order to figure this out.
Can those who's devices went through this same phenomenon please share.

Ok, use a program like AdvancedConfig to edit the display timer and see if that works.

When it starts back up again, it doesn't even get passed the flash screen.
Don't worry about that, i've reflashed the device and everything is working. What i'm wondering about is what caused it to get like this?

Might be something was wrong in the rom, preventing the phone from charging. So it might just have been empty...
Just my 2 cents.