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WM5 Alarm Problem

I know there was a thread for this a while back as I read it when searching for something else. Now I can't find that thread (the search function in forums is never great!) but I suddenly have a huge problem with the built in Alarm function on my Wizard...
I've had a few issues before where when the phone is charging overnight it soft resets by itself and then sticks on the initial O2 screen. In the morning, I disconnect the phone from the charger and the phone then boots, I enter the password and the alarm goes off (usually later than the time I set it for). This is annoying but I can live with it.
However, this morning I had HUGE problems. It did the same as usual, phone was stuck on O2 initial screen so i unplugged the charger and the phone began to boot. I entered my password and the alarm started to go off but I was unable to switch it off at all. It does not come up with 'Notification' in bottom left of the screen like it normally does when the alarm goes off. It just kept going off even when I unset the alarm. I did a soft reboot but the same thing happened again. Also, the right-hand light at the top was orange even when the charger was not connected so the phone seems to think it is charging when it isn't.
I have managed to get it to stop thinking its charging by enabling wifi for a few minutes whilst charger is connected, then disabling wifi and disconnecting charger. But, every time I soft reset, the alarm starts going off and wont stop and the orange light comes back (while not not connected to charger). Also, none of my calendar items are reminding me 15 mins before the appointment like they normally do.
Is there anything I can do? I really don't want to hard reset if possible and certainly not just to stop the alarm! I am using Molski's latest 30Mb free WWE ROM. There isn't much installed, just PocketMax PhoneAlarm (great app!), TCPMP, handy Switcher, OMAP and OMAP+, Resco file explorer and Salling clicker. But I have had these apps for a while now. There is also SoftKey which appeared after upgrading ROM and I have changed my left button (directly above the call connect button) to Notes, perhaps this is why the Notification does not come up?
It is so embarrassing that a £400 phone cannot do something so basic as waking you up at the right time
I know a lot of people have had this problem with WM5 but has a fix ever been identified? Sorry about the huge post btw but any advice would be hugely appreciated

I'd say try reflashing that ROM or try another ROM...
The $400 phone was designed to work with the ROM from the manufacturer and MO that it was sold under... If the problem still persists under those circumstances than the problem is most likely hardware related and you should be seeking a warranty repair (if that option is avalible to you). Although, you were made aware when you loaded the cooked ROM that it could cause you problems and voids any warranty.

I had the problem (although not as severe as today) when I was using the default ROM that was installed from the phone company...
Also, from the last thread about this it seems a large number of people with different ROMS/devices have had the problem...I'll reflash if I have to but I'll try a hard reset first....

try removing phone alarm and see how it will now behave.

Read my post in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=275189

Thanks meschle, I think it's fixed, I had to soft reset then delete the notifications several times, but now it has stopped sounding the alarm every time I soft reset...
Saved me a hard-reset - much appreciated

on my Tytn it says "Clearing Duplicate Events Processing 67 of 66 events" and basically stays like that.
Any ideas?

warmkiwi99 said:
on my Tytn it says "Clearing Duplicate Events Processing 67 of 66 events" and basically stays like that.
Any ideas?
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Hi it froze - try deleting the duplicate notifications one by one (click on the notification in question) or try trial version of memaid http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14279

Missing Settings

Every now and then i open activesync on my JasJam to see if my servers updated and last sync would be a 12 hours to a day before. So i go to Settings-Connections only to notice a lot of items are missing in all the settings menus. Sometimes a single soft-reset doesn't restore them, but multiple soft resets does. If you don't understand what i mean check out the attached screenshots.
I would post my rom info but the Device Information is missing from System-System! Get what mean?

fone_fanatic said:
Every now and then i open activesync on my JasJam to see if my servers updated and last sync would be a 12 hours to a day before. So i go to Settings-Connections only to notice a lot of items are missing in all the settings menus. Sometimes a single soft-reset doesn't restore them, but multiple soft resets does. If you don't understand what i mean check out the attached screenshots.
I would post my rom info but the Device Information is missing from System-System! Get what mean?
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I do not know the cause but you are not alone - I have told people to go to a certain Icon to change a setting, only to be told they do not have such an icon - but a day or two later they tell me they did a soft reset and suddenly the icon has appeared!
Mike

HAd the same problem. Was told by the service centre that it could be due to ROM instability....... Anyway did a couple of reflashing of the ROM but still happened. In the end, they changed the unit for me. Now everything is back to normal

I too have had this problem with my latest 8525. Settings just disappear sometimes and only return after a few resets, then disappear soon after. Glad I finally found this post, I thought I was going crazy. Guess I am getting a new phone in a couple of days.

I recently had AT&t replace my 8525 because of the afore mentioned settings problem (btw it also reverted back to windows default ringtone no matter what I selected, and I even tried removing TCPMP leaving only WMP)....
AT&T sent me another new phone,
I install my usual 3RD party apps and tweaks.......
SPB: Pocket plus v3 then v4, diary, time, weather, insight, tips and tricks
TCPMP and flash plugin
Opera mini with JBED midlet manager
MISC themes, skins, and icons
Live Search
sirius WM5
device lock and sleuth's PTT fix
Soft key applet
PHM w/ in-call slider volume hack, and maybe one other... I can't recall
I THINK THATS IT...
STILLL THE SAME PROBLEM(S)!
What the hell is happening w/these disappearing settings and default ringtone?
I can only return this damn phone and get a free one until January under my warranty(which is worth every penny so far, if only for all the scratches).
My original Cingular branded (original ROM) phone had no such issues.
HELP ME, OBI WAN XDA!

I think this has happened to other Windows Mobile phone users as well. I have the original rom for my Kaiser and it has happened to me. I freaked out the first time I saw it happen. At first I thought it only occurred when I did a soft reset without a power source (USB or AC), but now I realize it can happen either way. It just happens more frequently when my Kaiser isn't plugged in. The weird thing is I didn't start noticing it until about 2 months after purchasing my phone. I only started noticing it when I attempted to set up my internet connection. Hopefully someone can pinpoint the cause.

It's happening to me to from time to time, the entire settings menu goes missing. (I'm on a TyTN with official wm6).

How many random failures do you get a day?

I think I have a fairly unmodded phone...
Its still not unlocked, no rom changes, etc.
I just have programs like: PocketWeather, iLauncher and TomTom with a few simple additions like the new program that auto disconnects data after a preset time.
Well it seems very random, but when I fire off things like TOMTOM it just hangs, but not every time.

Not many. Generally speaking, when I'm having issues, it's my fault. But I do have issues with my OK button periodically disappearing, and sometimes non-responsiveness of some apps.
But, it's very rare. I usually do a soft reset every couple of days when something even remotely starts to act up.

Same with mine. I use the latest i-mate WWE ROM and find it stable.
@sk0t:
my OK button periodically disappearing
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Do you use Magic Button?

Nope. That's what's weird about it. I'll push the OK button on the front, but the app will still be up, and the OK button will disappear on the screen. I can usually get back to the Today screen by pushing the end call button though.

mine is now very stable. There is another thread that lists the "best" things to do to stop the periodic freezing. My 2c worth is on that thread also
I use Mortsaver to lock and close the device when i'm not using it. I think this results in a very stable device. It will wake up for SMS alerts and calls but for the rest of the time it's asleep - except when you are actively using it of course.
I also use SPB Backup at 05:00 in the morning which performs a soft reset after the backup. This keeps it clean too.
Defragging the Storage card and keeping as many apps as you can off the storage card also helps.
btw I use Magic Button

I only asked about Magic Button since I've noticed that the close button disappears sometimes in "Program Manager". It comes back again with a simple tap on the window background.

See thats the odd thing.... someone else told me to try and keep my unit's memory as clear as possible to avoid possible lockups.
Is the general consensus that its the other way around?
I have the vast majority of my applications saved on my storage card, granted I have tons of space on it.

I do experience frequent annoyances when using mine.
- screen alignment sometimes acting up (will send it back, but I'm waiting for the firmware update to be released, so they can do it together)
- mediaplayer occasionally loses the storage card (solved by deleting MSMETADATA on the card)
- occasional refusal to use an existing gprs/umts (have to disconnect and reconnect)
- vpn shutting down too fast when using it with wifi (after 30s)
- activesync sometimes doesn't recognize the device, forcing me to rename it and perform a whole new sync
- occasional difficulty in connecting to the correct wifi network (e.g. when there are 4 available, it pops up a couple of times that it has a network, but the one I always connect to is the last one to be found)
...
I have been using it for about a month now (was already sent back twice for keyboard and screen issues), and had to perform 3 hard resets as the behaviour got worse. I really like the device, but I wish there were less issues.
Jörg

After seeing the specs of the Hermes, I wanted it immediately.
Last week I finally bit the bullet, sold my Wizard (Cingular 8125) and got the Hermes.
For the most part, they are the same device, with the addition of 3G and a supposedly faster processor in the Hermes.
The Wizard was about as stable as a Windows Mobile device could be, at least in my opinion. I really didn't do much outrageous with it. I had a couple of games, TomTom 6, a dialer skin, and Good Mobile Messaging installed. I'd have to reset it maybe once a week or so, sometimes less than that because TomTom would lose connection to the GPS and nothing would get it back save for a reboot.
I took my Cingular 8525 (Hermes) out of the box, and I was really impressed by the device. The keyboard is far superior even though it's only a little different. I like the styling of the Hermes better, as well as the nice gunmetal finish. Download speeds are incredible (almost 900K in my house), and setting up Good Mobile Messaging OTA only took about 5 minutes vs. 20 on the Wizard.
The only problem is the instability. Sometimes I click on the "Start" button and it will make the click noise and light up, but it doesn't drop the menu down, requiring a reset. Sometimes the phone will shut off the display and trying to turn the power back on does nothing and requires a reset. Sometimes the phone will show remnants of windows that were recently closed and that will require either opening up other programs to clear them, or a reset. Then there's the just plain ol' freeze. Not to mention that plugging in my car charger barely ever activates the charging circuit on the phone
I've had this phone for about 6 days now and I have to reboot it AT LEAST twice a day, sometimes three or four. AT LEAST. This is wholly unacceptable. If we weren't on the cusp of a firmware upgrade that is rumored to rectify most of the problems above, I'd be selling this and maybe getting a Treo 750 or a BlackJack.

I've had so many little issues like this with my Tytn, using both standard and latest roms, that I've simply decided to sell it. Its just not a great phone or a pda, although it has all the features you could ever dream of, it just never seems like its fast enough and the software just doesn't seem all that polished.

2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.

i835 chirp said:
2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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Regarding the stuck on caps problem: if you select caps using the onscreen keyboard, then the physical keyboard is also put into caps. It is however not possible to turn this caps-lock off in using the physical keyboard. The solution is to open the onscreen keyboard, and turn it off there.
Jörg

8125 versus Hermes
I agree with you that the 8125 Wizard was more stable than the Hermes. I had one as well, and it would go weeks without resets or freezes.
You said:
" The only problem is the instability. Sometimes I click on the "Start" button and it will make the click noise and light up, but it doesn't drop the menu down, requiring a reset."
I believe this is due to the external storage becoming lost. Since WM5 doesn't expect storage to ever go away, it just freezes waiting on the storage to come back. In the case of the start menu, I think it's waiting so it can get the icons of recently used programs. Just a theory.
To fight this problem, I've loaded weather programs and the like into main memory so that external storage is only accessed when I'm playing with the phone. That's made my hermes a lot more reliable, down to a failure or freeze every few days. Not as good as the Wizard, but tolerable.

I'm having a TON of problems...
I have my Cingular 8525 HTC
ROM Version: 1.34.502.1
ROM date: 09/21/06
Radio Version: 1.16.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.53.7018.01H
I am having horrible problems with it randomly locking up, and I have to soft-reset. This usually happens when I have it on the charger overnight, and someone text messages me while it's on the charger... and of course when I soft-reset I lose all the messages! What's even worse is when it boots back up it'll vibrate, and beep for a long time like it's getting messages and I have to just ignore it and put it on silent... but there are no messages! Is there a way to fix this? What do I do?! I'm starting to get very frustrated with the phone - the only thing I use repeatedly on here is the MS ActiveSync over the air...

Do you think this could also be something to do with the variant?
I have Vario II from T-mobile, with all their stuff still on it, and I have installed/uninstalled goodness knows how much stuff, and don't really have this problem at all (touches wood). I can go for 3 or 4 days without soft reset, and then that is usually after a backup, when you have to.
I have all today screen and any software which is in startup, installed to main memory.
Also, could password screen have something to do with this? If on charge, and password protected, maybe they interfere with each other on receipt of text message. You could try removing password for overnight.
Have you tried leaving messaging running minimised overnight?
Also, have you moved any databases to storage card?

marisa4755 said:
Do you think this could also be something to do with the variant?
I have Vario II from T-mobile, with all their stuff still on it, and I have installed/uninstalled goodness knows how much stuff, and don't really have this problem at all (touches wood). I can go for 3 or 4 days without soft reset, and then that is usually after a backup, when you have to.
I have all today screen and any software which is in startup, installed to main memory.
Also, could password screen have something to do with this? If on charge, and password protected, maybe they interfere with each other on receipt of text message. You could try removing password for overnight.
Have you tried leaving messaging running minimised overnight?
Also, have you moved any databases to storage card?
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This is an interesting idea. I will leave the messaging minimized overnight tonight. The password screen is there as a matter of policy - through my work - since the company owns the device and they push policy to it which requires a password PIN to be entered after 15min of inactivity... I'll try that?
Anyone else having that weird sound problem with it repeatedly "pretending to get messages" after a soft reboot?

i835 chirp said:
2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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when i have this issue i click the ok button on the side and then it startss to work again without soft-reset.

rx8volution said:
Anyone else having that weird sound problem with it repeatedly "pretending to get messages" after a soft reboot?
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Are you sure that the sounds are messages rather than notifications?
It could be that your notifications queue is gummed up with lots of stuff. Suggest you get Memmaid or similar, download the trial and run the notifications queue duplicates remover. Then look at any of the entries marked Calendar and check to see if any of these are in the past. If they are remove them. LEAVE ALONE any notifications that are not Calendar with a description of one of your appointments or reminders.
Worth a try.

I also had some troubles. It freezes anywhere between 2 and 20 times per day. I just did a hard reset few days ago and tried to determine if any of my programs installed causes it.
It runs quiet well with nothing installed. Most freezes i get after installing SBSH WeatherMonitor.
About the sudden loss of external memory, i cannot complain. I install everything system related into the main memory. But weather and flexmail are on the card. I even take the card out having the phone running.
Not probs there.
Generally my Blue Angel is a far better phone, although bulky like my grand mother and not useful in Japan.

Thanks for the replies. After reading through this thread it seems I am not the only one with problems. Nearly every 8525 problem I've had can be solved, they just keep coming back. Like 8525 not recognizing Storage Card music. The worst for me ( happens a lot ) is that when I put the phone on the charger, then the screen shuts off to save power, but when I take the charger out the screen cannot be turned back on and needs a soft reset.

TyTn freezes and/or does not "wake up".

After searching for ages for a solution I am now about to throw in the towel.
I would so love this phone if I could get my problems sorted out
My phone randomly...
1. Does not "wake up" when a call or text message comes through. When I do switch on, only then do I get missed call notification and text messages.
2. Phone does not "wake up" when the power button is pressed (about 3 times a day) and I have to soft reset. (LED's still blink to indicate the phone is active)
My ROM: 1.35.222
Radio: 1.18.00
I have uninstalled anything which could have been a problem and only have Ewallet installed.... I even went as far as removing two magnets from the pouch.
Pleeeeeeeeese someone, have the magic solution for me.

But have you ensured that you have done these things?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1078848&postcount=2
and read these threads to name but three?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282347&page=3&highlight=freeze
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288352&highlight=fake+server
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286544&page=6&highlight=freeze
Cheers
Mike

I did two things on the same day that have stopped this problem completely....
1. upgraded to the beta cingular ROM (2.06? - AKU 3.3)
2. installed any apps that will be running frequently to the phone memory (Voice Command, Phone Alarm etc)

I just bought nice standalone LCD Weather-forecasting station with Alarm built-in
I can't afford to not get awaken on time.

mikechannon said:
But have you ensured that you have done these things?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1078848&postcount=2
and read these threads to name but three?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282347&page=3&highlight=freeze
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288352&highlight=fake+server
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286544&page=6&highlight=freeze
Cheers
Mike
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Thanks for that but I had already tried all the solutions.
However... I think I may have found the problem.
Although I had removed all programmes, the one thing I did since my last post was to remove a dialer skin I had installed (my last resort). This seems to have made the problem go away (two days with no freezing so far)
Any comments on how on earth a skin could effect my TyTn?

I agree with you, I uninstalled a dialer skin (JPLDialer_Au24_Black from PaulyA) because it was conflicting alot with Magic Button.
The other thing I did was removed an item from my Today Items - Newsbreak (an RSS feed which needs an internet connection). I put it in my menu instead, and this has decreased problems as well.
Things seem to have improved slightly, and ActiveSync isn't opening as spontaneously like it used to.

Mine didn't turn on twice (it wasn't alarm, I manually tried to turn on) and it froze. I then rezlized it happens if you have something sensitive installed on storage, because when device wakes up the storage doesn't wakeup as quickly as the device.
So everything that remains in memory most of the time (today plugins and other stuff) I install on the device, not storage. No freezes since then, fingers crossed.

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Thanks for that but I had already tried all the solutions.
However... I think I may have found the problem.
Although I had removed all programmes, the one thing I did since my last post was to remove a dialer skin I had installed (my last resort). This seems to have made the problem go away (two days with no freezing so far)
Any comments on how on earth a skin could effect my TyTn?
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Oh, oh. Spoke too soon. After behaving for a while it's back to its old tricks.
Phone does not wake up to recieve calls or text messages. Of course I only find out hours later when I switch it on to use it and get 5 text messages and 5 missed call notifications

HD2 Died..... or did it?

I'm in between surgery so thought I'd post a quick question where the answer is puzzling me.
Basically, I'm in wonder if this has happened to any other soul?
Picked up my HD2 when I came out of Theatre and it simply would not switch on.
Thinking it may be the battery that had run down I connected it to a power source to charge and noticed the Orange charge indicator did not light up.
Next I took out the battery and reinserted, then pushed the power button......
Still nothing.
Thinking was it a problematic battery (although it still should have switched on when connected to a power source) I exchanged the battery for the spare I take around with me.
Still nothing.
Finally, I reinserted the first battery and once again pressed the power button.
This time it fired up and loaded without any issue.
I checked the battery level ~ that indicated 56% still remaining.
So I am in puzzlement as to what may have caused it's temporary death.
Has any other had a similar experience?
Edit 01 ~ 24 Feb 2010
It would seem that to some (myself included) there is a fix that does indeed cure the problem and that is by using the software application MemMaid.
Others have tried SKTools but MemMaid seems to operate much better at terminating the freezes.
Unfortunately MemMaid is not free and seeing as HTC will not budge from this being a 'users personal settings' that is causing the freeze our only course of action at the moment is by using MemMaid.
However, please do note..... Not everyone has benefited from using MemMaid; why that is the case could be down to some individuality ~ a different setting, installed software, routine notification, etc. etc.
In other words first try the free trial version of MemMaid and if it seems to cure the the problem then do consider investing in it.... besides all this it is a great piece of software.
You can get hold of MemMaid here.
Word of Warning.....
Ensure you set up MemMaid correctly. I spent ages with member wacky banana throwing many personal messages between the two of us like fervid lovers until finally wacky came up with a setting we could use.
Below is the settings to apply to MemMaid:-
In your programs section you should see 2 icons, one called Memmaid Quick Clean and the other is Memmaid.
Click on the Memmaid icon and a window opens.
At the top left corner it should say Quick Cleaner but this is not relevant for now.
Put a tick in the the following options (the list is scrollable):
- compact ram
- windows temp files
- temp files
- ie cache files
- ie history files
- opera cache
- dead shortcuts
- duplicate notifications
- dangling notifications
- invalid notifications
- rebuild notification queue
- recycle bin
- google maps cache
Press the CLEAN button and wait for the tool to do its job then press the close button.
Next, on the bottom right of your screen, click the Tools option. From the drop-down menu choose CLEAN SCHEDULE.
Tick the following items:
- on soft reset
- daily (here you need to scroll to the right to select the icon with the 3 dots in it to set your schedule)
- show report (optional)
- show progress (optional)
Click DONE on the bottom left corner on your screen and job's a good 'un!
Edit 02 ~ 24 Feb 2010
Member jonbaker76 came up with a few extra tips to help alleviate the problem:-
1). Install MemMaid and follow settings provided by Beards & WB
[*]2). Disable the alarm (use G-Alarm maybe)
[*]3). Turn off Facebook updates
[*]4). Turn off Weather updates
[*]5). Turn off Internet Time Sync
[*]6). Wait a while before carrying out a soft reset, your Phone may just wake up
Edit 03 ~ 25 Feb 2010
Guys,
We are starting to find a pattern building up here relating the problem with Sense.
Some users don't have problems with ROM 1.48 but others Do/Did (I used to) so we can't say v1.48 was okay.
However, it's the later ROM's which seem to have the greater of the problem which could relate to an issue with Sense.
i.e. Although evident in v1.48 it was not as strong but with either Cooked ROM's or updated ROM's the problem has been magnified.
A few Guys have now tried using their HD2 without Sense and report a stable platform.
What I am saying here is if you have the problem and you can afford not to use Sense then try running your Phone without it for a trial and see how it performs...... With enough info we can pass this on to HTC.

I had a situation where I switched the phone back on (from standby/power saving mode) only to find it was dead. To get it running again I had to perform a soft reset and, like you, I found that I had plenty of battery remaining. This happened only once in three weeks of usage and I'm not sure what caused it.
James

I had a similar issue a few days ago.
I picked the phone up and pressed the power button, but nothing happened. I did the same as you and assumed that it was flat (despite me being a charging maniac!) I plugged it in and got no charging light, so I popped out the battery and put it back in. It turned on first time then.
I wasn't really concered as it's only happened once in over 3 weeks, and I'd only recently upgraded the ROM so I was ignoring any little foibles like this.
Maybe it's a little more common than I thought?

this has happened to me twice since upgrading to the new recent rom.

Beards said:
I'm in between surgery so thought I'd post a quick question where the answer is puzzling me.
Basically, I'm in wonder if this has happened to any other soul?
Picked up my HD2 when I came out of Theatre and it simply would not switch on.
Thinking it may be the battery that had run down I connected it to a power source to charge and noticed the Orange charge indicator did not light up.
Next I took out the battery and reinserted, then pushed the power button......
Still nothing.
Thinking was it a problematic battery (although it still should have switched on when connected to a power source) I exchanged the battery for the spare I take around with me.
Still nothing.
Finally, I reinserted the first battery and once again pressed the power button.
This time it fired up and loaded without any issue.
I checked the battery level ~ that indicated 56% still remaining.
So I am in puzzlement as to what may have caused it's temporary death.
Has any other had a similar experience?
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May be a warning from HTC for your now very famous camera thread,if I were you would be carefull LOl!!

hagba said:
May be a warning from HTC for your now very famous camera thread,if I were you would be carefull LOl!!
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Big brother watching us...

Beards,
Did you have any diary appointments or alarms set on the device today that you did not immediately cancel on notification or multiple alarms set/going off? If you did then this is probably a notification queue issue locking up the phone, forcing a reboot.
This symptom was very common with the TYTN when it first came out and drove me absolutely bananas!
Long shot but let me know.
WB

No... nothing was left to tie the Phone up.
I remember checking everything before I went down to Theatre earlier this morning.
In a way I'm pleased it's not an isolated case and that others have experienced something similar (sorry Guys, I don't wish it on you ~ just a little relieved I'm not the only one).
I know HTC monitor the 'Camera Problem' topic (they've told me this directly). Maybe they have some super-duper exra-terrestial monitoring machine that can achieve the Dynamics of masspoint collections..

Yep, I too have had this issue.
Was using phone normally, left it on stand by by pressing the power key. Wanted to make a call, it did not turn on. Opened back cover to do soft reset, did not turn on, started sweating..., swore at the phone and took battery out and then replaced battery and pressed power button and what do you know, booted up like nothing happened.
Am using original shipped UK ROM. Have not upgraded.

You should check this as well (first 2 might be from the same poster):
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=41974
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591226&highlight=freeze
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595646&highlight=freeze
I had the same problem - it happened only 2 times for a week, but it was nasty enough (and in combination with the camera problem) to make me finally send my phone back for a refund.
Basically the symptoms were similar - I would leave the phone somewhere for more than a couple of hours only to find it somehow switched off or something. The buttons light up when clicked, but the screen remains black - only battery removal helps and after that runs like normal...
I have quite a number of calendar notifications etc. - this might be a good clue!
I have the feeling that this thread might grow as big as the camera thread. Perhaps HTC fix that with a software update as well ...

A friend of mine had this problem with his HD2 on Sunday morning. He was surfing the web with it when it froze up. When he took the battery out/in again it wouldn't turn on.
He called HTC and they came to pick up his handset on monday. I guess he'll have to wait to get it back repaired Maybe he should have tried taking it out a few more times first.

deyanp said:
You should check this as well (first 2 might be from the same poster):
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=41974
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591226&highlight=freeze
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595646&highlight=freeze
I had the same problem - it happened only 2 times for a week, but it was nasty enough (and in combination with the camera problem) to make me finally send my phone back for a refund.
Basically the symptoms were similar - I would leave the phone somewhere for more than a couple of hours only to find it somehow switched off or something. The buttons light up when clicked, but the screen remains black - only battery removal helps and after that runs like normal...
I have quite a number of calendar notifications etc. - this might be a good clue!
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I had something similar this morning, I have been using the alarm for the last 2 weeks with no problems. this morning the screen lit up, i saw the notification on the top but there was no noise. as a veteran of WM i dismissed it as "typical". however, the screen then went blank, the buttons would light up but nothing happened. I reset the phone to no avail, button still lit up but no screen - mild panic. removed and refitted the battery and all has been well since.
won't be too chuffed if it happens again....
rivets

Beards,
Notwithstanding that this may be some kind of new software or hardware problem, I just wonder about the notification queue.
I would try using a copy of SKTools to clear the notification queue ( I think you can do other tweaks as well but it's been a while since I used it) and see what happens.
Did you have any missed calls you did not answer today (another possible culprit, linked into auto screen lock = disaster).
I am simply putting ideas out for you to try to narrow the problem down. Don't know if any of this will work.
WB
PS: Just had another thought; have you installed an application onto your SD card that is on-screen? Used to have this issue with a weather application, sat on screen but installed to the SD card.
If the phone went into sleep mode and the application polled the weather servers then it would die a horrible death. De-installing and reinstalling to phone memory solved the problem.
Again its a long shot but you never know.
WB

Ive had that same problem twice last night within th space of 1/2 hour and the today i ran fine up until about 5pm today, where it froze, I updated the rom on sunday from O2 1.43 hope this is not gonna be a problem, anyone know where to get O2 1.43 rom just in case I have to return

wacky.banana said:
Beards,
Notwithstanding that this may be some kind of new software or hardware problem, I just wonder about the notification queue.
I would try using a copy of SKTools to clear the notification queue ( I think you can do other tweaks as well but it's been a while since I used it) and see what happens.
Did you have any missed calls you did not answer today (another possible culprit, linked into auto screen lock = disaster).
I am simply putting ideas out for you to try to narrow the problem down. Don't know if any of this will work.
WB
PS: Just had another thought; have you installed an application onto your SD card that is on-screen? Used to have this issue with a weather application, sat on screen but installed to the SD card.
If the phone went into sleep mode and the application polled the weather servers then it would die a horrible death. De-installing and reinstalling to phone memory solved the problem.
Again its a long shot but you never know.
WB
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Even though my profession is based on absolute accuracy in detail, when it comes to finding out why the HD2 died I'll try any long-shot.
There were no programs loaded though and I know nothing was paged to make the Phone send any notifications.
I'll have a good check at possible programs/dll's later though.
Thanks.

I've had the same a few times. Probably the reason was overloaded main memory. I removed some mp3 files, but the situation wasn't change.

htc touch pro2 vs hd2... just got the answer!
a day ago... i was unsure about the upgrade. i had posted tis msg in xda but was advised by a senior member tat it was worth the upgrade n i culd find all my answers to the query here. here was my msg...
"hi all. with all the hypes surrounding htc hd2... n my htc touch pro2 fast losing its crown of being the best winmo device in the market... shuld i upgrade to the hd2? n watz wif the glass screen? wuldn't it crack easily? it's glass! appreciate everyone's take on this. the only selling point tat is tempting me away frm my pro2 is abt the speed... 1ghz vs my miserable 528mhz... sad. everyone's talking abt its blazing speed. is it tat obvious?!
then again there's tat camera issue... the infamous pinkish spot, which htc support claims it's related to the 1ghz dragon fella... software related... n restricted to only a selected few?! so it's like going2 the lottery n c who gets the infected piece is it?! bottom line is... my pro2 seems like a honda civic... n the hd2 is purportedly a nissan skyline, but wif so many question marks hanging over its head, shuld i still go for the upgrade? thnx!"
guess wat, after reading most of the threads here... i think i'll stick with the htc touch pro2. the hd2 has way too many issues... even worse than the camera thingy tat i knew abt... but the number of issues tat r highlighted here abt the hd2... is enuf2 make me say no to hd2.

This thread here reminds me to some issues with WinMo 6.5/Manila 2.5 ROMs for the Xperia X1: Over there in the forum, you can find quite some postings describing the "standby of death" problem.
Just very close to some of the other issues we now face with the "real" Leo, too. In fact, there are more "similarities" like the stand-by issue, and nobody was really able to clearly reproduce the problem as there seems to be no pattern. The same problems are not existing in WinMo 6.1/Manila 2.1 ROMs for the Xperia - but some in a WinMo 6.1/Manila 2.5 version, when I follow the thread correctly.
I do strongly believe that there are, underneath the hood of Leo´s operating system, quite some nasty bugs in WinMo as well as Manila. I cannot imagine another explanation why 2 totally different devices with very different hardware (parts) would show the almost exact same issues.
Of course, porting the Leo ROM to something like Xperia may bring some issues, but most apparently, most bugs are coming from MS and HTC, not the talented chefs here. (One more reason to look forward to custom ROMs for the Leo. No good sign for HTC though, frankly spoken...)

mine die this morning too ... alarm didnt go off
but press and hold the power button wake the phone up and alarm start ringing. Then I power it off, and all the other buttons does not turn on the phone other than press and hold power button = soft reset ... weird
Camera patch is out today
waiting for new ROM release

Same thing happened to me this afternoon. The phone wouldn't start up when I pressed the power button so I tried holding the power button down to force a soft reset. At one point all the buttons lit up but nothing more happened. Eventually I pulled the battery out, stuck it back in and then the phone started.