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TyTn locking up

I have had this happen twice now.
My tytn (v0628) has locked up. I took it out of my case and pressed the power button and got nothing. The lights are blinking as usual (bluetooth and phone). I tried to call it and it did not wake or ring, but on the phone I was calling on it was ringing, and I got that speaker interference so I know the call was reaching my TYTN, but it didn't wake up. So I had to soft reset it. The first time this happened it was on the charger (wall) and not in its case, it happened overnight. Woke up to it not turning on.
Anyone else having this issue?
Later; Lew

Yup ... I've seen it perhaps 6 or 7 times in the month I've had it.
The actual stability issues I had were resolved - i.e. hanging soft resets etc - by rebuilding. In the main it is very stable.
You also get irritating hangs when the device is left to rung and hang up.
Paul.

Yep. Same issue here. The phone is working normally; you just couldn't get it out of powersave mode by pressing the on/off button. I sent mine back for replacement due to two bad keys and an inoperative flash, but I was going to investigate it further. Like:
How about pressing something that would normally wake it up like the camera button perhaps?
... sometimes its rough out here on the (b)leading edge....

This happened twice to me too, both times after being charging for 4-5 hours during the night it doesn't wake up the next morning, it doesn't matter which key I press, only solution was to soft-reset with stylus.
lewcamino said:
My tytn (v0628) has locked up.
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Mine has also HT628 S/N.
lewcamino said:
I took it out of my case and pressed the power button and got nothing. The lights are blinking as usual (bluetooth and phone).
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Same here, but bluetooth was turned off. Only phone blinking.
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I tried to call it and it did not wake or ring, but on the phone I was calling on it was ringing, and I got that speaker interference so I know the call was reaching my TYTN, but it didn't wake up.
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Exactly the same issue here, I could hear the interfernce on my hi-fi speakers when I called from landline phone to my cell number.
lewcamino said:
So I had to soft reset it. The first time this happened it was on the charger (wall) and not in its case, it happened overnight. Woke up to it not turning on.
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I didn't have it on the wall charger, but using the USB computer cable, so it doesn't seem a problem related to charger.

I had this happen to me a bunch of times too but it turns out that it was spb software that was causing this issue for me. I had SPB pocket plus and Weather installed, and running on my today screen and it happened quite frequently. I decided to do a hard reset and keep the software minimal to what i "needed" so I kept is simple. haven't had this problem since then. I believer it has to do with the today screen which is either a bug in spb software of a bug in the firmware.
Good Luck!

yak86 said:
it was spb software that was causing this issue for me.
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I don't have any 3rd party software from SPB installed, but can be probably some other soft....

It was locking up for me too and I went and removed SBSH PocketWeather to test it out since it was the last thing I installed. I remove it from teh Today screen and have not had a lock up yet. I am also running SPB Diary with no problems. I am thinking it could possibly be due to these programs that have to connect to GPRS/UDMA every so often to update its data like PocketWeather since it happens with different programs. Maybe it locks up while charging and trying to make a connection. Just my thoughts.
AJH..

hmmm... I also had spb pocket plus and spb weather installed. When I get my next TyTN I'll have to remove those if the problem re-occurs. however I also had one instance of POFs charge related issue. Maybe its also spb backup related since I fire one of those off every day at 3AM.

I don't have any SPB software on mine. However I was using magic button with the battery meter on top. I have disabled the battery meter. That was 3 days ago. It has not happened since but that does not mean it was the problem. BTW I decided to allow the device to stay on (screen back light off but awake) while charging to prevent this from happening overnight.
I know SPB has a battery meter and I also know that this device reports the battery level in strange ways. Like it only reports 10% increments. Also when you first wake it up the battery is @ 100% then goes to the proper level.
Try this if you have voice command;
Have your device off the charger with some battery missing, 90% or lower. Wake up your phone and quickly activate voice command and say "what is my battery level" It will report something strange like "the battery level is unavailable" or I got this one "the battery level is critical" but it was @ 50% and when i asked again it reported 50% just fine. So I think this may be related to battery polling programs.
I am guessing at this and I have not had long enough time to test it but I thought I would toss it out there for everyone to try.
Later; Lew

I have the SAME EXACTLY problem with my magician, this is a common fault as I can see :? The fact is, most users says that the PDA wouldn't wake up after a night: then the problem is the low temperature.. test this putting the TyTN in a fridge while it's cold, then try to wake it up the problem is there...
MocciJ

i had the same problem with my trion using imate rom......but it didnt happen after a long charge......i just havent turned it on for about 5-7 hours, and then when i did turn it on it wont respond.....so i had to do a soft reset........from my experience i think it was my wisbar advance so i uninstalled it and went back to using wisbar lite......i never had this problem before when i was running wisbar lite originally....when i installed wisbar advance and had it on my device for a couple of days and thats when the problem started to happen......after uninstalling wisbar advance and putting back the wisbar lite the problem didnt come back.....so i think it has something to do with what is running on our today screen.....maybe programs that takes up a lot of resources etc might be the culprit......

i have same problems with prophet. after every charging a have to soft-reset. no additional software is installed and never been. just clenan WM5. so this is not a problem with 3rd party software.

Has anyone noticed that the magnet in the HTC leather case is too strong for the TyTN?
I think that I FINALLY figured out why I was having so many "strange" things happen (i.e. Pull out the phone from the HTC case and it comes out in landscape mode). To test- Open the case and move the magnetic flap around the phone while it's on (with screen lit up) and see if it causes a problem with the display.
I need to find a durable NON-Magnetic carry case. Any know of one available for the TyTN?

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(i.e. Pull out the phone from the HTC case and it comes out in landscape mode)
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sure u're posting in the right topic?? :wink:
Anyway, I recommend to all who's having this problem to send the TyTN to repairs.. It's an hardware fault :roll:
MocciJ

Well you can send out your TyTN if you want. I can say that since I removed the battery bar feture in magic button I have not had this problem. I also let my device stay on (screen backlight off, but device still on) over night.
Later; Lew

lewcamino said:
I have had this happen twice now.
Anyone else having this issue?
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Yes. I removed Opera and all went back to normal.

We have many topics on "locking up", freezing, storage card problems, windows media player problem, and so on
Please when you have this kind of problem check if you are using appz writing/reading on the storage card
The worst period in my life with TyTN was when I set IE cache and E-mail cache on storage card... (It is a FAT 16 card...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61879 is about overnight freezing....

Sergiopi,
Can you tell us in simple terms what to check to be sure that our programs are not making use of storage card. For instance, I am using pocketbreeze and sbsh pocketweather and both were installed on storage card. Should I simply remove them from the Today screen? Should I reinstall them on main memory?
Thanks, apap

1) Have you sat up IE or Mail SW to store cache or attachment on storage card?
2) Have appz with auto update or log file installed on storage card?
3) Check active processes and events scheduled
This is a simple check list, you can also leave without storage card your TyTN and check if any error message appear after 2-3 ours
To stop applications use any process explore to recognize and stop the process (safer un-checking from today screen first)

I experienced this problem regularly, especially when left on charger overnight as others have reported . I also chgd my ROM from HTC to IMATE -- experienced lockups in both so it's not the ROM.
Saw a suggested "fix" another thread (referenced above) -- Settings/Connections/PC to USB - uncheck box for Advanced Network Functionality --- that seems to have corrected it! I was experiencing the lockip several times a day, but haven't had a lockup since making this chamge. Amd my software install is very similar to others in this thread - spbpktplus, sbsh pocket weather and pocket breeze, wisbar adv 2.
Not sure how this setting is involved, or even whzt it does, but glad the lockips seem to have endec.

WM5 Alarm Problem

I know there was a thread for this a while back as I read it when searching for something else. Now I can't find that thread (the search function in forums is never great!) but I suddenly have a huge problem with the built in Alarm function on my Wizard...
I've had a few issues before where when the phone is charging overnight it soft resets by itself and then sticks on the initial O2 screen. In the morning, I disconnect the phone from the charger and the phone then boots, I enter the password and the alarm goes off (usually later than the time I set it for). This is annoying but I can live with it.
However, this morning I had HUGE problems. It did the same as usual, phone was stuck on O2 initial screen so i unplugged the charger and the phone began to boot. I entered my password and the alarm started to go off but I was unable to switch it off at all. It does not come up with 'Notification' in bottom left of the screen like it normally does when the alarm goes off. It just kept going off even when I unset the alarm. I did a soft reboot but the same thing happened again. Also, the right-hand light at the top was orange even when the charger was not connected so the phone seems to think it is charging when it isn't.
I have managed to get it to stop thinking its charging by enabling wifi for a few minutes whilst charger is connected, then disabling wifi and disconnecting charger. But, every time I soft reset, the alarm starts going off and wont stop and the orange light comes back (while not not connected to charger). Also, none of my calendar items are reminding me 15 mins before the appointment like they normally do.
Is there anything I can do? I really don't want to hard reset if possible and certainly not just to stop the alarm! I am using Molski's latest 30Mb free WWE ROM. There isn't much installed, just PocketMax PhoneAlarm (great app!), TCPMP, handy Switcher, OMAP and OMAP+, Resco file explorer and Salling clicker. But I have had these apps for a while now. There is also SoftKey which appeared after upgrading ROM and I have changed my left button (directly above the call connect button) to Notes, perhaps this is why the Notification does not come up?
It is so embarrassing that a £400 phone cannot do something so basic as waking you up at the right time
I know a lot of people have had this problem with WM5 but has a fix ever been identified? Sorry about the huge post btw but any advice would be hugely appreciated

I'd say try reflashing that ROM or try another ROM...
The $400 phone was designed to work with the ROM from the manufacturer and MO that it was sold under... If the problem still persists under those circumstances than the problem is most likely hardware related and you should be seeking a warranty repair (if that option is avalible to you). Although, you were made aware when you loaded the cooked ROM that it could cause you problems and voids any warranty.

I had the problem (although not as severe as today) when I was using the default ROM that was installed from the phone company...
Also, from the last thread about this it seems a large number of people with different ROMS/devices have had the problem...I'll reflash if I have to but I'll try a hard reset first....

try removing phone alarm and see how it will now behave.

Read my post in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=275189

Thanks meschle, I think it's fixed, I had to soft reset then delete the notifications several times, but now it has stopped sounding the alarm every time I soft reset...
Saved me a hard-reset - much appreciated

on my Tytn it says "Clearing Duplicate Events Processing 67 of 66 events" and basically stays like that.
Any ideas?

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on my Tytn it says "Clearing Duplicate Events Processing 67 of 66 events" and basically stays like that.
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Hi it froze - try deleting the duplicate notifications one by one (click on the notification in question) or try trial version of memaid http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14279

My Wizard has multiple bugs, need help solving

I understand that this forum is filled with developers. So I am hoping for some informed help. If you have any of these same problems please respond as well. I would like to know if these are isolated to my setup
I migrated from a cel phone and a PPC running WM2003/2003se. Mainly for the converged device, but also for the persistent storage. I run a small business, and and am very busy and rely on my phone and schedule all day everyday.
I have only had the wizard (MDA) for about 3 weeks and experienced odd problems since the first weekhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
. Unfortunately I did not buy new, so I am not sure if any of these are covered by warranty or not... I am just going to list the problems:
1) If I leave my phone plugged in at night to charge than by the time I wake up the phone will not come out of standby. I have to press the soft reset button to get the unit to work again. This happens intermittently
2) I use an alarm program so that the unit acts like an alarm clock. If the phone is plugged in at night, and does not experience problem number 1, than the alarm just won't go off. I turn on the phone and the alarm program is open, but it did nothing. If the phone is not plugged in than the alarm works fine.
3) Soft buttons. I have the registry set to remap what the soft buttons do. I use Agenda Fusion (Latest Version) so i have them set to open the calendar and the contacts to Agenda Fusions view of them. This works most of the time. On occasion the soft buttons just stop working except for running through the menus for reminders.....
4)The other day i went to take a photo, the camera said that it could not proceed because there was not enough memory. At the time I had 30 megs of storage free, about 12 megs of program free and about 900 meg left on my sd card...
5) Every so often the unit won't launch a program, it says that the exe is unsigned or not trusted. It works every other time though.
6) I use cLaunch. Every so often cLaunch disappears from the today screen. The only wat to get it to reappear is to remove it from the today screen from the today items menu, wait a couple of seconds and then return it to the today screen.
7) Every so often the unit stops recognizing the sd card..have to remove and re-insert
8) I use reminders for all my calender and to do items. Occasionally the reminder will go off for a certain item 24 hours in advance, even though the setting is correct in the item...
I feel like I am missing a few problems. But you get might point, WM5 is weird. All of the above can be corrected with a soft reset. But sometimes the problems show up multiple times a day. Causing me to have to soft reset in the most inconvenient times, several times a day.http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/mad.gif
I did not have these problems under WM2003. I have a friend who uses a Verzion phone that is similar to the wizard (made by a different company though, not HTC...it has an external antennae and that is where the stylus is stored as well) She and I were comparing phones today. Hers runs WM5 but she said that she has never experienced any of these problems in the 1 year that she has owned hers...
Is this an HTC Wizard problem? A WM5 problem with the wizards? Would it help if i installed on of the alternate roms that I read about here on XDA developers? I am considering a hard reset and starting from scratch but I don't want to go that route unless it is the only way. And if I do, I may just use one of those roms.....What does everybody think?http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
Sorry for the long winded post....

Seems like a software problem based on (1) and (2). Is the ROM an official ROM?

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Hello Hanmin Thanks for responding,
Re Number 1. I just saw that some one else posted with that problem. So I will see if they have they same alarm program installed. I have wondered if everything is software related. Thats why I am hoping to see if others are having these types of problems, and if so, what programs they are using...
Re the rom...yes it the official T-mobile release, version listed in my sig.
Thanks again

New problem
I have just encountered a new problem:
While picking up my voice mail the system would not register my button pushes. Weather on screen or the hardware buttons. I could not interact with voice mail, nor could I end the call with the hardware button or the soft button....I had to reset the phone to end the call!!
How frustrating is that

Have you tried reflashing the original ROM? Being a used phone that would be the first thing I would do. It's going to wipe out all your data and return it to an "out of box" state, so i suggest backing up anything important and sync to your PC. If that doesn't work then you have a hardware issue but I'm willing to bet that should take care of it. You can find the original ROM on HTP's website. Good Luck

Thank you
Thanks for that suggestion....I am hoping to not go down that road, if I can help it. But I will do it if there are no other options. So If I may ask: How many votes does re flashing old Rom Get? And are there any other ideas?
Again Thanks. I am going to download the rom in case it does come to that....

wait...the phone dosen't wake up unless you push the small button on the top of the phone? That is not the default setting on the MDA, however it's acting naturally. Our phones go on a standby to save power. Click the battery icon in the lower right hand corner-->Click the Advanced tab--> uncheck Turn off device on external power

Misunderstanding....
When the phone is plugged in over night and reaches %100 charge some times it won't "Wake Up" even hitting the power button on top. The only thing that will turn it on is the "Soft Reset" button on the right side, beneath the IR sensor.

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It sounds like you have software problems - possible a corrupt notification queue - personally i would do a hard reset of the device - probably in the process of this i would soft reset before the t-mobile extras install - taking details of gprs, mms settings before this.
I would run the phone without installing software to see that its not a hardware problem. Then reinstall programs one by one and see how it goes. Some software like claunch is not made for wm5 so expect some glitches (i use claunch and get occ glitch)
If you dont want to hard reset check the notification queue for duplicates and rogue scripts using check notifications - attached - install via pc. Dont delete notifications important for system running - common duplicates are clock\calendar.

alarm problems
Hi,
frankly i had similar issues - less critical but annoying: alarm clock not waking me up, slow system, notification queue mess, difficult resets, camera issues, bluetooth a2dp skipping. I upgraded my Qtek multiple times, and finally i can say that 2.26 roms (i use molski's) are exceptionally stable and reliable. The problem is not Wm5, the problem is how buggy many released versions are. So, my suggestion: look to the forum, find roms that appear to have a reliable history, cross your fingers and...upgrade. Then, resist in upgrading to any rom that just came out and appear to be faster, cooler, nicer. Unless you have an issue to be solved, and you see 100 messages confirming that the rom is stable and does the job...

Thank you meschle and pzucchel for the thorough answers. I am going to try the notification queue first.
@ Meschle: where do I find the gprs, & mms settings? And should I just copy them down by hand? Then after re-starting w/out tmobile crap, do I just put these settings in the same place as where I found them?
@ Pzucchel: Do you believe that Molski's 2.26 is more stable than the Tmobile factory installed 2.26?
Thanks again

cameraddict said:
Thank you meschle and pzucchel for the thorough answers. I am going to try the notification queue first.
@ Meschle: where do I find the gprs, & mms settings? And should I just copy them down by hand? Then after re-starting w/out tmobile crap, do I just put these settings in the same place as where I found them?
@ Pzucchel: Do you believe that Molski's 2.26 is more stable than the Tmobile factory installed 2.26?
Thanks again
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Write them down manually its the safest way - there are cabs available but often dont work.
GPRS - settings\connections\connections\manage existing connectons - settings should be here prob named t-mobile
MMS - go into messages\menu\options\MMS\servers click on prob t mobile again.

Thanks again!

How many random failures do you get a day?

I think I have a fairly unmodded phone...
Its still not unlocked, no rom changes, etc.
I just have programs like: PocketWeather, iLauncher and TomTom with a few simple additions like the new program that auto disconnects data after a preset time.
Well it seems very random, but when I fire off things like TOMTOM it just hangs, but not every time.

Not many. Generally speaking, when I'm having issues, it's my fault. But I do have issues with my OK button periodically disappearing, and sometimes non-responsiveness of some apps.
But, it's very rare. I usually do a soft reset every couple of days when something even remotely starts to act up.

Same with mine. I use the latest i-mate WWE ROM and find it stable.
@sk0t:
my OK button periodically disappearing
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Do you use Magic Button?

Nope. That's what's weird about it. I'll push the OK button on the front, but the app will still be up, and the OK button will disappear on the screen. I can usually get back to the Today screen by pushing the end call button though.

mine is now very stable. There is another thread that lists the "best" things to do to stop the periodic freezing. My 2c worth is on that thread also
I use Mortsaver to lock and close the device when i'm not using it. I think this results in a very stable device. It will wake up for SMS alerts and calls but for the rest of the time it's asleep - except when you are actively using it of course.
I also use SPB Backup at 05:00 in the morning which performs a soft reset after the backup. This keeps it clean too.
Defragging the Storage card and keeping as many apps as you can off the storage card also helps.
btw I use Magic Button

I only asked about Magic Button since I've noticed that the close button disappears sometimes in "Program Manager". It comes back again with a simple tap on the window background.

See thats the odd thing.... someone else told me to try and keep my unit's memory as clear as possible to avoid possible lockups.
Is the general consensus that its the other way around?
I have the vast majority of my applications saved on my storage card, granted I have tons of space on it.

I do experience frequent annoyances when using mine.
- screen alignment sometimes acting up (will send it back, but I'm waiting for the firmware update to be released, so they can do it together)
- mediaplayer occasionally loses the storage card (solved by deleting MSMETADATA on the card)
- occasional refusal to use an existing gprs/umts (have to disconnect and reconnect)
- vpn shutting down too fast when using it with wifi (after 30s)
- activesync sometimes doesn't recognize the device, forcing me to rename it and perform a whole new sync
- occasional difficulty in connecting to the correct wifi network (e.g. when there are 4 available, it pops up a couple of times that it has a network, but the one I always connect to is the last one to be found)
...
I have been using it for about a month now (was already sent back twice for keyboard and screen issues), and had to perform 3 hard resets as the behaviour got worse. I really like the device, but I wish there were less issues.
Jörg

After seeing the specs of the Hermes, I wanted it immediately.
Last week I finally bit the bullet, sold my Wizard (Cingular 8125) and got the Hermes.
For the most part, they are the same device, with the addition of 3G and a supposedly faster processor in the Hermes.
The Wizard was about as stable as a Windows Mobile device could be, at least in my opinion. I really didn't do much outrageous with it. I had a couple of games, TomTom 6, a dialer skin, and Good Mobile Messaging installed. I'd have to reset it maybe once a week or so, sometimes less than that because TomTom would lose connection to the GPS and nothing would get it back save for a reboot.
I took my Cingular 8525 (Hermes) out of the box, and I was really impressed by the device. The keyboard is far superior even though it's only a little different. I like the styling of the Hermes better, as well as the nice gunmetal finish. Download speeds are incredible (almost 900K in my house), and setting up Good Mobile Messaging OTA only took about 5 minutes vs. 20 on the Wizard.
The only problem is the instability. Sometimes I click on the "Start" button and it will make the click noise and light up, but it doesn't drop the menu down, requiring a reset. Sometimes the phone will shut off the display and trying to turn the power back on does nothing and requires a reset. Sometimes the phone will show remnants of windows that were recently closed and that will require either opening up other programs to clear them, or a reset. Then there's the just plain ol' freeze. Not to mention that plugging in my car charger barely ever activates the charging circuit on the phone
I've had this phone for about 6 days now and I have to reboot it AT LEAST twice a day, sometimes three or four. AT LEAST. This is wholly unacceptable. If we weren't on the cusp of a firmware upgrade that is rumored to rectify most of the problems above, I'd be selling this and maybe getting a Treo 750 or a BlackJack.

I've had so many little issues like this with my Tytn, using both standard and latest roms, that I've simply decided to sell it. Its just not a great phone or a pda, although it has all the features you could ever dream of, it just never seems like its fast enough and the software just doesn't seem all that polished.

2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.

i835 chirp said:
2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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Regarding the stuck on caps problem: if you select caps using the onscreen keyboard, then the physical keyboard is also put into caps. It is however not possible to turn this caps-lock off in using the physical keyboard. The solution is to open the onscreen keyboard, and turn it off there.
Jörg

8125 versus Hermes
I agree with you that the 8125 Wizard was more stable than the Hermes. I had one as well, and it would go weeks without resets or freezes.
You said:
" The only problem is the instability. Sometimes I click on the "Start" button and it will make the click noise and light up, but it doesn't drop the menu down, requiring a reset."
I believe this is due to the external storage becoming lost. Since WM5 doesn't expect storage to ever go away, it just freezes waiting on the storage to come back. In the case of the start menu, I think it's waiting so it can get the icons of recently used programs. Just a theory.
To fight this problem, I've loaded weather programs and the like into main memory so that external storage is only accessed when I'm playing with the phone. That's made my hermes a lot more reliable, down to a failure or freeze every few days. Not as good as the Wizard, but tolerable.

I'm having a TON of problems...
I have my Cingular 8525 HTC
ROM Version: 1.34.502.1
ROM date: 09/21/06
Radio Version: 1.16.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.53.7018.01H
I am having horrible problems with it randomly locking up, and I have to soft-reset. This usually happens when I have it on the charger overnight, and someone text messages me while it's on the charger... and of course when I soft-reset I lose all the messages! What's even worse is when it boots back up it'll vibrate, and beep for a long time like it's getting messages and I have to just ignore it and put it on silent... but there are no messages! Is there a way to fix this? What do I do?! I'm starting to get very frustrated with the phone - the only thing I use repeatedly on here is the MS ActiveSync over the air...

Do you think this could also be something to do with the variant?
I have Vario II from T-mobile, with all their stuff still on it, and I have installed/uninstalled goodness knows how much stuff, and don't really have this problem at all (touches wood). I can go for 3 or 4 days without soft reset, and then that is usually after a backup, when you have to.
I have all today screen and any software which is in startup, installed to main memory.
Also, could password screen have something to do with this? If on charge, and password protected, maybe they interfere with each other on receipt of text message. You could try removing password for overnight.
Have you tried leaving messaging running minimised overnight?
Also, have you moved any databases to storage card?

marisa4755 said:
Do you think this could also be something to do with the variant?
I have Vario II from T-mobile, with all their stuff still on it, and I have installed/uninstalled goodness knows how much stuff, and don't really have this problem at all (touches wood). I can go for 3 or 4 days without soft reset, and then that is usually after a backup, when you have to.
I have all today screen and any software which is in startup, installed to main memory.
Also, could password screen have something to do with this? If on charge, and password protected, maybe they interfere with each other on receipt of text message. You could try removing password for overnight.
Have you tried leaving messaging running minimised overnight?
Also, have you moved any databases to storage card?
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This is an interesting idea. I will leave the messaging minimized overnight tonight. The password screen is there as a matter of policy - through my work - since the company owns the device and they push policy to it which requires a password PIN to be entered after 15min of inactivity... I'll try that?
Anyone else having that weird sound problem with it repeatedly "pretending to get messages" after a soft reboot?

i835 chirp said:
2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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when i have this issue i click the ok button on the side and then it startss to work again without soft-reset.

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Anyone else having that weird sound problem with it repeatedly "pretending to get messages" after a soft reboot?
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Are you sure that the sounds are messages rather than notifications?
It could be that your notifications queue is gummed up with lots of stuff. Suggest you get Memmaid or similar, download the trial and run the notifications queue duplicates remover. Then look at any of the entries marked Calendar and check to see if any of these are in the past. If they are remove them. LEAVE ALONE any notifications that are not Calendar with a description of one of your appointments or reminders.
Worth a try.

I also had some troubles. It freezes anywhere between 2 and 20 times per day. I just did a hard reset few days ago and tried to determine if any of my programs installed causes it.
It runs quiet well with nothing installed. Most freezes i get after installing SBSH WeatherMonitor.
About the sudden loss of external memory, i cannot complain. I install everything system related into the main memory. But weather and flexmail are on the card. I even take the card out having the phone running.
Not probs there.
Generally my Blue Angel is a far better phone, although bulky like my grand mother and not useful in Japan.

Thanks for the replies. After reading through this thread it seems I am not the only one with problems. Nearly every 8525 problem I've had can be solved, they just keep coming back. Like 8525 not recognizing Storage Card music. The worst for me ( happens a lot ) is that when I put the phone on the charger, then the screen shuts off to save power, but when I take the charger out the screen cannot be turned back on and needs a soft reset.

HTC Legend suffering Standby on Death (SOD)

hi all,
i having my 1st Android phone (HTC Legend), but my set suffering Standby on Death (SOD), not sure if the right term. When it on standby, I not able to wake the phone; only way to remove the battery and on the phone again.
However, during it 'freeze' mode, try calling the phone; won't ring but caller doesn't get any engaged tone keep trying connect tone.
Please advise if any1 experience the above or any steps I can do.
** Try searching the web, only found SOD on Win phone.
Cheers.
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The same thing happend to me yesterday, for the first time (I pulled out battery to reset it). I had a few random resets last few days, but I do use my legend for app development testing, so i'm not sure if i somehow provoked the problem.
Offtopic, but just looking at logcat output of a normally running Legend you get impression that there are a lot of unfinished stuff, especially HTC applications (news widget is terrible)

I'm also seeing the same random resets on my Legend. Not sure what when wrong. I have a bunch of apps installed but I don't know if this relates to any of them.

It happened again just now. Restarts on daily basis now

just make a hard reset

Ok. I did a hard rest. And i don't want to install any apps, let it run in vanilla flavor for 2-3 days and see if it happens again.
If it does, that means it must be caused by one of the apps installed before

I had some SOD's, but after a complete clean and reset to original setting, everything disappeared.
Maybe it was a problem coming from installed software...

clean reset, wiped out everything. reset after 15hrs of up time. i'm going to RMA this thing

Hi all - first post here...
I have not long had my first HTC handset - and I really like it, but nearly every day I get this 'SOD'...as described here.
I had to remove the battery to wake it up again only this morning.
I have noticed, that it only seems to do this when it can't recieve the weather data (under the HTC clock)? the handset never seems to hang etc while it has this data?
Have others seen this? Could it be a bug?

Why not bring all SOD threads to one?
As I see all SOD's are same on all devices.
There is bunch of symptoms but if you have sod than you are experiencing some or all of the symptoms.
General help is to hard reset few times than flash shipped ROM then hard reset again few times then flash your favorite custom ROM or leave shipped, and reset again few times. And finaly set network to GSM+AUTO in Phone band configuration. Or try to change SIM with another network operator.
All of this helped some people but there is many who did not solve the SOD with this nor anything else.
I know I am posting in more than one thread same thing and it is not double or triple or X posting it is just help request for people who could finaly understand what is problem and help us all.
Sory, and thanks in advance.
Weather is not problem on my device, I did try turn it off, disable auto update of everything .... no difference.
Even I leave it connected to USB and it have the internet connection all time and I do not have SOD, I have DIM of death screen dims not turn of and if I disconect it and pres power to go to stand by or to turn off screen I can not power on device until i pull battery out few times - 4 - 5 timesto be precise or sometimes even more.

I got a new replacement unit and it works fine since. I guess my old unit was really defective
Sent from my Legend using XDA App

I have had to have my handset replaced now. My SOD contiuned and then the Mic gave up and no-one could hear me in calls - made it unusable as a phone. I also had battrey issues where the phone wouldn't charge and the battery meter read wrong.
All seems fine with this replacement handset.....