TyTn locking up - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I have had this happen twice now.
My tytn (v0628) has locked up. I took it out of my case and pressed the power button and got nothing. The lights are blinking as usual (bluetooth and phone). I tried to call it and it did not wake or ring, but on the phone I was calling on it was ringing, and I got that speaker interference so I know the call was reaching my TYTN, but it didn't wake up. So I had to soft reset it. The first time this happened it was on the charger (wall) and not in its case, it happened overnight. Woke up to it not turning on.
Anyone else having this issue?
Later; Lew

Yup ... I've seen it perhaps 6 or 7 times in the month I've had it.
The actual stability issues I had were resolved - i.e. hanging soft resets etc - by rebuilding. In the main it is very stable.
You also get irritating hangs when the device is left to rung and hang up.
Paul.

Yep. Same issue here. The phone is working normally; you just couldn't get it out of powersave mode by pressing the on/off button. I sent mine back for replacement due to two bad keys and an inoperative flash, but I was going to investigate it further. Like:
How about pressing something that would normally wake it up like the camera button perhaps?
... sometimes its rough out here on the (b)leading edge....

This happened twice to me too, both times after being charging for 4-5 hours during the night it doesn't wake up the next morning, it doesn't matter which key I press, only solution was to soft-reset with stylus.
lewcamino said:
My tytn (v0628) has locked up.
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Mine has also HT628 S/N.
lewcamino said:
I took it out of my case and pressed the power button and got nothing. The lights are blinking as usual (bluetooth and phone).
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Same here, but bluetooth was turned off. Only phone blinking.
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I tried to call it and it did not wake or ring, but on the phone I was calling on it was ringing, and I got that speaker interference so I know the call was reaching my TYTN, but it didn't wake up.
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Exactly the same issue here, I could hear the interfernce on my hi-fi speakers when I called from landline phone to my cell number.
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So I had to soft reset it. The first time this happened it was on the charger (wall) and not in its case, it happened overnight. Woke up to it not turning on.
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I didn't have it on the wall charger, but using the USB computer cable, so it doesn't seem a problem related to charger.

I had this happen to me a bunch of times too but it turns out that it was spb software that was causing this issue for me. I had SPB pocket plus and Weather installed, and running on my today screen and it happened quite frequently. I decided to do a hard reset and keep the software minimal to what i "needed" so I kept is simple. haven't had this problem since then. I believer it has to do with the today screen which is either a bug in spb software of a bug in the firmware.
Good Luck!

yak86 said:
it was spb software that was causing this issue for me.
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I don't have any 3rd party software from SPB installed, but can be probably some other soft....

It was locking up for me too and I went and removed SBSH PocketWeather to test it out since it was the last thing I installed. I remove it from teh Today screen and have not had a lock up yet. I am also running SPB Diary with no problems. I am thinking it could possibly be due to these programs that have to connect to GPRS/UDMA every so often to update its data like PocketWeather since it happens with different programs. Maybe it locks up while charging and trying to make a connection. Just my thoughts.
AJH..

hmmm... I also had spb pocket plus and spb weather installed. When I get my next TyTN I'll have to remove those if the problem re-occurs. however I also had one instance of POFs charge related issue. Maybe its also spb backup related since I fire one of those off every day at 3AM.

I don't have any SPB software on mine. However I was using magic button with the battery meter on top. I have disabled the battery meter. That was 3 days ago. It has not happened since but that does not mean it was the problem. BTW I decided to allow the device to stay on (screen back light off but awake) while charging to prevent this from happening overnight.
I know SPB has a battery meter and I also know that this device reports the battery level in strange ways. Like it only reports 10% increments. Also when you first wake it up the battery is @ 100% then goes to the proper level.
Try this if you have voice command;
Have your device off the charger with some battery missing, 90% or lower. Wake up your phone and quickly activate voice command and say "what is my battery level" It will report something strange like "the battery level is unavailable" or I got this one "the battery level is critical" but it was @ 50% and when i asked again it reported 50% just fine. So I think this may be related to battery polling programs.
I am guessing at this and I have not had long enough time to test it but I thought I would toss it out there for everyone to try.
Later; Lew

I have the SAME EXACTLY problem with my magician, this is a common fault as I can see :? The fact is, most users says that the PDA wouldn't wake up after a night: then the problem is the low temperature.. test this putting the TyTN in a fridge while it's cold, then try to wake it up the problem is there...
MocciJ

i had the same problem with my trion using imate rom......but it didnt happen after a long charge......i just havent turned it on for about 5-7 hours, and then when i did turn it on it wont respond.....so i had to do a soft reset........from my experience i think it was my wisbar advance so i uninstalled it and went back to using wisbar lite......i never had this problem before when i was running wisbar lite originally....when i installed wisbar advance and had it on my device for a couple of days and thats when the problem started to happen......after uninstalling wisbar advance and putting back the wisbar lite the problem didnt come back.....so i think it has something to do with what is running on our today screen.....maybe programs that takes up a lot of resources etc might be the culprit......

i have same problems with prophet. after every charging a have to soft-reset. no additional software is installed and never been. just clenan WM5. so this is not a problem with 3rd party software.

Has anyone noticed that the magnet in the HTC leather case is too strong for the TyTN?
I think that I FINALLY figured out why I was having so many "strange" things happen (i.e. Pull out the phone from the HTC case and it comes out in landscape mode). To test- Open the case and move the magnetic flap around the phone while it's on (with screen lit up) and see if it causes a problem with the display.
I need to find a durable NON-Magnetic carry case. Any know of one available for the TyTN?

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(i.e. Pull out the phone from the HTC case and it comes out in landscape mode)
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sure u're posting in the right topic?? :wink:
Anyway, I recommend to all who's having this problem to send the TyTN to repairs.. It's an hardware fault :roll:
MocciJ

Well you can send out your TyTN if you want. I can say that since I removed the battery bar feture in magic button I have not had this problem. I also let my device stay on (screen backlight off, but device still on) over night.
Later; Lew

lewcamino said:
I have had this happen twice now.
Anyone else having this issue?
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Yes. I removed Opera and all went back to normal.

We have many topics on "locking up", freezing, storage card problems, windows media player problem, and so on
Please when you have this kind of problem check if you are using appz writing/reading on the storage card
The worst period in my life with TyTN was when I set IE cache and E-mail cache on storage card... (It is a FAT 16 card...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=61879 is about overnight freezing....

Sergiopi,
Can you tell us in simple terms what to check to be sure that our programs are not making use of storage card. For instance, I am using pocketbreeze and sbsh pocketweather and both were installed on storage card. Should I simply remove them from the Today screen? Should I reinstall them on main memory?
Thanks, apap

1) Have you sat up IE or Mail SW to store cache or attachment on storage card?
2) Have appz with auto update or log file installed on storage card?
3) Check active processes and events scheduled
This is a simple check list, you can also leave without storage card your TyTN and check if any error message appear after 2-3 ours
To stop applications use any process explore to recognize and stop the process (safer un-checking from today screen first)

I experienced this problem regularly, especially when left on charger overnight as others have reported . I also chgd my ROM from HTC to IMATE -- experienced lockups in both so it's not the ROM.
Saw a suggested "fix" another thread (referenced above) -- Settings/Connections/PC to USB - uncheck box for Advanced Network Functionality --- that seems to have corrected it! I was experiencing the lockip several times a day, but haven't had a lockup since making this chamge. Amd my software install is very similar to others in this thread - spbpktplus, sbsh pocket weather and pocket breeze, wisbar adv 2.
Not sure how this setting is involved, or even whzt it does, but glad the lockips seem to have endec.

Related

Problem with new O2 ROM

Can anyone else confirm if you have similar problem? After the upgrade, everytime the phone rings, I can't answer the call right away, there's a 5-6 secs pause between when the phone first ring till I can accept the call, during the pause, the screen is hanged like it's trying to wake up from standby... The phone would keep ringing and it's very annoying to just staring at the phone with people watching.. I'm not sure if this is a software conflict but I tried to disable all the softwares but still the same.
And then the battery seems to drain MUCH faster, it drops 30% already in just 6 hours!!! Only had like 10 or so short phone calls, checked email once!!
Last thing is, anyone able to get Journal Bar 4.3.4 running? It went fine before the ROM upgrade, but now it hangs the machine when I sync it with my PC and can't even bring it back with softreset... I had to hardreset 3 times already before of Journal Bar
Am I the only one having these problems????
I too just upgrade but am not facing any of the problems u mentioned. Everything appears to be smooth and much better than the DOPOD ROM
Just running the upgrade now. I'll let you know how I get on with JB.
Edit: Have run the upgrade now an installed JB and all nice and smooth. No problems. Weather is fine, newsfeeds are working, auto scroll is working, expansion pack is detected.... but once it connects and tries to update....the whole things freezes - locks up solid. And a hard reset is the only way of stopping.
Same here, I have not encountered the said problem. As a matter of fact, I don't see any difference either in speed nor performance in corporate mode. Yes, less stuff to go into and change, but come on... all we have to do is turn off the error reporting and beam function. But I do admit, the basic mode deffinitely is faster than the old ROM version. This is my personal experience.
Hmm... looks like only some have and some don't have this problems.. Darkblak, what version JB are you running? And man.. the pause from waking up is driving me crazy
My o2 Exec had been switched off for three hours, but screen open, and I got sombody to call from my landline. Upon the first ring in the calling (landline) handset's earpiece, the Exec screen illuminated and my ring-tone began playing. Clicked the on-screen Answer soft-key immediately (within first three notes of the tune) and the call was connected.
Tried again to check. Same result, connect during first ring.
However, I'm also concerned at the "apparently" faster battery drain. Currently running the battery down to check if the problem is still there after a full discharge/recharge cycle. The only difference in applications that I have installed now, compared with a few weeks ago, is the spb GPRS Monitor v.2.41 (this is *not* the o2 supplied version).
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Last thing is, anyone able to get Journal Bar 4.3.4 running? It went fine before the ROM upgrade, but now it hangs the machine when I sync it with my PC and can't even bring it back with softreset... I had to hardreset 3 times already before of Journal Bar
Am I the only one having these problems????
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It's a coincidence with your ROM upgrade -- I've been using my Qtek9000's factory ROM for a few months, and yesterday (Dec 22) Journal Bar started acting up. :evil:
I wonder what they're sending through that Journal Bar feed that can freeze a device like that! Very Evil!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=199226#199226
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Hmm... looks like only some have and some don't have this problems.. Darkblak, what version JB are you running? And man.. the pause from waking up is driving me crazy
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3.4.3
heidy said:
It's a coincidence with your ROM upgrade -- I've been using my Qtek9000's factory ROM for a few months, and yesterday (Dec 22) Journal Bar started acting up. :evil:
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If this is date related - how can you turn the update off. My JB freezes the whole phone as soon as it loads and a soft reset just repeats the process on me. I've hard reset and re-installed 3 times today with no luck.
For now I've hard reset and left JB until a solution can be found.
darkblak said:
heidy said:
It's a coincidence with your ROM upgrade -- I've been using my Qtek9000's factory ROM for a few months, and yesterday (Dec 22) Journal Bar started acting up. :evil:
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If this is date related - how can you turn the update off. My JB freezes the whole phone as soon as it loads and a soft reset just repeats the process on me. I've hard reset and re-installed 3 times today with no luck.
For now I've hard reset and left JB until a solution can be found.
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What I did was I soft-reset, and then before my wifi started up, I would race to disable wifi, or click on one of the buttons (they're in a group of 4) that prevents JB from updating from Wifi/GPRS. Solves the problem for now.
Hmm.. So I guess I should avoid JB for now.. And found out my pausing problem is actually from Worldmate 2006! Remove the today plugin and problem solved. No I have NO weather info at all...
Update on JB here:
http://www.wormholecreations.com.au/wc/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=3845&posts=20
O2 Exec Upgrade Problem
I have today updated my o2 Exec with the new ROM upgrade, all seemed ok until I carried out a soft reset - all my email accounts were lost!!
Tried hard reset, etc - still happening when I soft reset??
Any one have any ideas how I can resolve this problem?
What I find odd is that after the upgrade my handset works perfectly. It is a lot faster than previous, the battery doesn't drain any faster, my email accounts are intact after re-creating them after the ROM Flash.
Is my handset an anomaly ?
Read somewhere here that you should clear out the ROM (Clear Memory app) before you try a ROM upgrade. Also try Corp mode if you haven't yet.
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However, I'm also concerned at the "apparently" faster battery drain. Currently running the battery down to check if the problem is still there after a full discharge/recharge cycle.
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ironically, i think it is battery.nfo which is causing the drain!
i've switched back to the SPB pocket plus battery indicator & my xda exec *appears* to be draining 'normally'.
can anyone confirm?
everytime the phone rings, I can't answer the call right away, there's a 5-6 secs pause between when the phone first ring till I can accept the call, during the pause, the screen is hanged like it's trying to wake up from standby
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I don't know what software you're running but if I setup a storage card indicator in SPB Plus I get a long (5-6 seconds) delay before I can do anything after switching on. This is even with the storage card indicator not on the visible tab - it must be gathering information. As soon as I remove that indicator then the machine responds as soon as I switch on.
Jon.
YAY! Thanks been trying to figure out what it was in Pocket+ that was causing that.
Taken the storage card details off and all is good!
Now if only they can sort out the 'stuttering' ringtone!
hm.. i had that problem too..
i think i should try to uninstall pocket + n see how it works...
thanks ape..
I had my Exec repaired and had the latest ROM installed (dated 30 Nov 05). I have not installed any third-party apps at all. Will monitor its behaviour over the next few days. So far, it has been stable and I am alerted to all calls even when using the PowerSave option. Speed a little slower now that I am not using GSPMagic+

HELP | TyTN unable to wake up after power off!!!

Guys
I am facing a really weird problem which is becoming increasingly frustrating and driving me nuts.
I usually charge my phone overnite using the stock charger. The phone powers off after a while as per the the settings (15 mins I think) and stays like that throughout the night. But in the morning it fails to wake up totally. Nothin works. So, I am forced to soft reset it everytime this happens. This has happened quite a few times now.
Any ideas why this might be happening? This is killing me because the alarms dont sound and the phone is totally dead in the morning.
ps. I am using the stock HTC ROM (1.18, 07/22), on Cingular UMTS.
Thanks in advance.
JoKer
Dude, I'm getting the EXACT same thing!!!! I'm using using the stock TyTN ROM! I have no idea what's causing it, or even how to fix it. I thought it had something to do with software, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. I need help too!!!!
) .. that's crazy .. maybe this is the next SA ... jk ..
but seriously ... maybe there are more folks with this prob ... let's see if anyone knows any more details about this or how to fix it ..
And the really strangest thing is that this doesnt happen to me in the day .. it powers off and wakes up fine .. but then it's never powered off for that long ..
Mine seems to happen when it's powered off for a given amount of time. It's insanely annoying because I have to reboot, and I hate rebooting the phone.
I've experienced a lot less of this behavior since moving to the 1.20 radio ROM...
I'm at the 1.20 radio, and I'm still having the problem.
I too am having exactly this problem. I have flashed the Cingular 1.34 ROM but it seems that the ROM doesn't matter. (I notice the bluetooth and or wifi lights are still on, the screen just doesnt come back to life).
Hi, you probably already tested this, but your device goes into standby mode with WiFi on it will become locked and unable to power on.
But it has happenned to me this sympton without WiFi connected.
Cheers
check out this search...there are a few topics on this already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=192877
Well I used to think there was some truth to the freezing being related to certain apps... and I suspected on mine it was PhoneAlarm causing problems.
Last week I hard reset and re-installed everything except PhoneAlarm but am having freezing if my TyTN is not used for some time (does not have to charge to freeze!)... And yes, I do kill ActiveSync and WiFi when I know I will not be using my phone for a while. My conclusion is that there's more to this and that maybe a newer ROM from HTC will address this - anyone know what the status is on this??
BTW, anybody else having alarms going off constantly on re-boot or MS VC reading out ca. 2 weeks of appointments on soft re-boot?
I still don't think there is a definitive answer on this. I've heard quite a few things to fix it; but I don't really have any of the software that's mentioned. Someone said it was because I had Opera installed (so I uninstalled it), then someone said it was because of the ActiveSync Advanced Network Connection option (I unchecked that), last someone said it was because of SBSH PocketWeather, and to take that off the today screen. Well I'd rather not do the latter, so I'll test these two and see how it goes.
I think it's the today plug-in issue. I hard reset and left off PW and it didn't lock-up for 2 days. But like you, I like it a lot.
So I'll deal with resetting it.
For me, it's just Pocket Plus, Resco File Explorer and WA Lite on the Today screen along with the standard stuff .. really nothin that needs to connect to the connect to the internet .. and still ..
The one that caused the TyTn not to wakeup was Wisbar Advance. Since removing it, I've not had any issues with the pda not waking up from power off.
Ok, what are you using in its place?
Well after uninstalling Opera, and unchecking the check box; I had the problem again! ( So annoying (.
Well i'll post my problem too
I have missed class twice in a week because the phone alarm never rang in the morning. The phone was frozen and i had to reset it in both cases. I always leave it charginf over night and now i'm afraid to turn it off anymore for fear of never waking me up in the morning
Adi
guys,
I am suspecting the issue is related to the today's plugin. After a few days of experiments, I believe the battery level reading utilities such as SPB pockets plus or Resco today plugin might be the one we are looking for.
Not only uncheck it, but also un-install it, hopefully, would help to solve the problem.
Mark
I have no today's plugin, just the standard stuff, en i do have the same problem
Give the Fake Server Trick a try, which worked for similar symptoms on the old Axim x51v: http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=112638
If your problems are caused by the same thing, then this is to do with Activesync launching itself automatically. This in turn causes windows mobile 5 to stop waking up from standby, requiring a soft reset. No idea why.
I did the FST straight away when I received my TyTN and I don't get any of the problems you describe at all. It's worth a go!

How many random failures do you get a day?

I think I have a fairly unmodded phone...
Its still not unlocked, no rom changes, etc.
I just have programs like: PocketWeather, iLauncher and TomTom with a few simple additions like the new program that auto disconnects data after a preset time.
Well it seems very random, but when I fire off things like TOMTOM it just hangs, but not every time.
Not many. Generally speaking, when I'm having issues, it's my fault. But I do have issues with my OK button periodically disappearing, and sometimes non-responsiveness of some apps.
But, it's very rare. I usually do a soft reset every couple of days when something even remotely starts to act up.
Same with mine. I use the latest i-mate WWE ROM and find it stable.
@sk0t:
my OK button periodically disappearing
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Do you use Magic Button?
Nope. That's what's weird about it. I'll push the OK button on the front, but the app will still be up, and the OK button will disappear on the screen. I can usually get back to the Today screen by pushing the end call button though.
mine is now very stable. There is another thread that lists the "best" things to do to stop the periodic freezing. My 2c worth is on that thread also
I use Mortsaver to lock and close the device when i'm not using it. I think this results in a very stable device. It will wake up for SMS alerts and calls but for the rest of the time it's asleep - except when you are actively using it of course.
I also use SPB Backup at 05:00 in the morning which performs a soft reset after the backup. This keeps it clean too.
Defragging the Storage card and keeping as many apps as you can off the storage card also helps.
btw I use Magic Button
I only asked about Magic Button since I've noticed that the close button disappears sometimes in "Program Manager". It comes back again with a simple tap on the window background.
See thats the odd thing.... someone else told me to try and keep my unit's memory as clear as possible to avoid possible lockups.
Is the general consensus that its the other way around?
I have the vast majority of my applications saved on my storage card, granted I have tons of space on it.
I do experience frequent annoyances when using mine.
- screen alignment sometimes acting up (will send it back, but I'm waiting for the firmware update to be released, so they can do it together)
- mediaplayer occasionally loses the storage card (solved by deleting MSMETADATA on the card)
- occasional refusal to use an existing gprs/umts (have to disconnect and reconnect)
- vpn shutting down too fast when using it with wifi (after 30s)
- activesync sometimes doesn't recognize the device, forcing me to rename it and perform a whole new sync
- occasional difficulty in connecting to the correct wifi network (e.g. when there are 4 available, it pops up a couple of times that it has a network, but the one I always connect to is the last one to be found)
...
I have been using it for about a month now (was already sent back twice for keyboard and screen issues), and had to perform 3 hard resets as the behaviour got worse. I really like the device, but I wish there were less issues.
Jörg
After seeing the specs of the Hermes, I wanted it immediately.
Last week I finally bit the bullet, sold my Wizard (Cingular 8125) and got the Hermes.
For the most part, they are the same device, with the addition of 3G and a supposedly faster processor in the Hermes.
The Wizard was about as stable as a Windows Mobile device could be, at least in my opinion. I really didn't do much outrageous with it. I had a couple of games, TomTom 6, a dialer skin, and Good Mobile Messaging installed. I'd have to reset it maybe once a week or so, sometimes less than that because TomTom would lose connection to the GPS and nothing would get it back save for a reboot.
I took my Cingular 8525 (Hermes) out of the box, and I was really impressed by the device. The keyboard is far superior even though it's only a little different. I like the styling of the Hermes better, as well as the nice gunmetal finish. Download speeds are incredible (almost 900K in my house), and setting up Good Mobile Messaging OTA only took about 5 minutes vs. 20 on the Wizard.
The only problem is the instability. Sometimes I click on the "Start" button and it will make the click noise and light up, but it doesn't drop the menu down, requiring a reset. Sometimes the phone will shut off the display and trying to turn the power back on does nothing and requires a reset. Sometimes the phone will show remnants of windows that were recently closed and that will require either opening up other programs to clear them, or a reset. Then there's the just plain ol' freeze. Not to mention that plugging in my car charger barely ever activates the charging circuit on the phone
I've had this phone for about 6 days now and I have to reboot it AT LEAST twice a day, sometimes three or four. AT LEAST. This is wholly unacceptable. If we weren't on the cusp of a firmware upgrade that is rumored to rectify most of the problems above, I'd be selling this and maybe getting a Treo 750 or a BlackJack.
I've had so many little issues like this with my Tytn, using both standard and latest roms, that I've simply decided to sell it. Its just not a great phone or a pda, although it has all the features you could ever dream of, it just never seems like its fast enough and the software just doesn't seem all that polished.
2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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Regarding the stuck on caps problem: if you select caps using the onscreen keyboard, then the physical keyboard is also put into caps. It is however not possible to turn this caps-lock off in using the physical keyboard. The solution is to open the onscreen keyboard, and turn it off there.
Jörg
8125 versus Hermes
I agree with you that the 8125 Wizard was more stable than the Hermes. I had one as well, and it would go weeks without resets or freezes.
You said:
" The only problem is the instability. Sometimes I click on the "Start" button and it will make the click noise and light up, but it doesn't drop the menu down, requiring a reset."
I believe this is due to the external storage becoming lost. Since WM5 doesn't expect storage to ever go away, it just freezes waiting on the storage to come back. In the case of the start menu, I think it's waiting so it can get the icons of recently used programs. Just a theory.
To fight this problem, I've loaded weather programs and the like into main memory so that external storage is only accessed when I'm playing with the phone. That's made my hermes a lot more reliable, down to a failure or freeze every few days. Not as good as the Wizard, but tolerable.
I'm having a TON of problems...
I have my Cingular 8525 HTC
ROM Version: 1.34.502.1
ROM date: 09/21/06
Radio Version: 1.16.00.00
Protocol Version: 32.53.7018.01H
I am having horrible problems with it randomly locking up, and I have to soft-reset. This usually happens when I have it on the charger overnight, and someone text messages me while it's on the charger... and of course when I soft-reset I lose all the messages! What's even worse is when it boots back up it'll vibrate, and beep for a long time like it's getting messages and I have to just ignore it and put it on silent... but there are no messages! Is there a way to fix this? What do I do?! I'm starting to get very frustrated with the phone - the only thing I use repeatedly on here is the MS ActiveSync over the air...
Do you think this could also be something to do with the variant?
I have Vario II from T-mobile, with all their stuff still on it, and I have installed/uninstalled goodness knows how much stuff, and don't really have this problem at all (touches wood). I can go for 3 or 4 days without soft reset, and then that is usually after a backup, when you have to.
I have all today screen and any software which is in startup, installed to main memory.
Also, could password screen have something to do with this? If on charge, and password protected, maybe they interfere with each other on receipt of text message. You could try removing password for overnight.
Have you tried leaving messaging running minimised overnight?
Also, have you moved any databases to storage card?
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Do you think this could also be something to do with the variant?
I have Vario II from T-mobile, with all their stuff still on it, and I have installed/uninstalled goodness knows how much stuff, and don't really have this problem at all (touches wood). I can go for 3 or 4 days without soft reset, and then that is usually after a backup, when you have to.
I have all today screen and any software which is in startup, installed to main memory.
Also, could password screen have something to do with this? If on charge, and password protected, maybe they interfere with each other on receipt of text message. You could try removing password for overnight.
Have you tried leaving messaging running minimised overnight?
Also, have you moved any databases to storage card?
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This is an interesting idea. I will leave the messaging minimized overnight tonight. The password screen is there as a matter of policy - through my work - since the company owns the device and they push policy to it which requires a password PIN to be entered after 15min of inactivity... I'll try that?
Anyone else having that weird sound problem with it repeatedly "pretending to get messages" after a soft reboot?
i835 chirp said:
2-3 on a good day. It usully is in the range of 5-6 for different reasons. Keyboard doesn't respond, stuck on caps, no volume, random freezes, screen won't turn on. Gets annoying after a while.
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when i have this issue i click the ok button on the side and then it startss to work again without soft-reset.
rx8volution said:
Anyone else having that weird sound problem with it repeatedly "pretending to get messages" after a soft reboot?
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Are you sure that the sounds are messages rather than notifications?
It could be that your notifications queue is gummed up with lots of stuff. Suggest you get Memmaid or similar, download the trial and run the notifications queue duplicates remover. Then look at any of the entries marked Calendar and check to see if any of these are in the past. If they are remove them. LEAVE ALONE any notifications that are not Calendar with a description of one of your appointments or reminders.
Worth a try.
I also had some troubles. It freezes anywhere between 2 and 20 times per day. I just did a hard reset few days ago and tried to determine if any of my programs installed causes it.
It runs quiet well with nothing installed. Most freezes i get after installing SBSH WeatherMonitor.
About the sudden loss of external memory, i cannot complain. I install everything system related into the main memory. But weather and flexmail are on the card. I even take the card out having the phone running.
Not probs there.
Generally my Blue Angel is a far better phone, although bulky like my grand mother and not useful in Japan.
Thanks for the replies. After reading through this thread it seems I am not the only one with problems. Nearly every 8525 problem I've had can be solved, they just keep coming back. Like 8525 not recognizing Storage Card music. The worst for me ( happens a lot ) is that when I put the phone on the charger, then the screen shuts off to save power, but when I take the charger out the screen cannot be turned back on and needs a soft reset.

TyTn freezes and/or does not "wake up".

After searching for ages for a solution I am now about to throw in the towel.
I would so love this phone if I could get my problems sorted out
My phone randomly...
1. Does not "wake up" when a call or text message comes through. When I do switch on, only then do I get missed call notification and text messages.
2. Phone does not "wake up" when the power button is pressed (about 3 times a day) and I have to soft reset. (LED's still blink to indicate the phone is active)
My ROM: 1.35.222
Radio: 1.18.00
I have uninstalled anything which could have been a problem and only have Ewallet installed.... I even went as far as removing two magnets from the pouch.
Pleeeeeeeeese someone, have the magic solution for me.
But have you ensured that you have done these things?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1078848&postcount=2
and read these threads to name but three?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282347&page=3&highlight=freeze
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288352&highlight=fake+server
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286544&page=6&highlight=freeze
Cheers
Mike
I did two things on the same day that have stopped this problem completely....
1. upgraded to the beta cingular ROM (2.06? - AKU 3.3)
2. installed any apps that will be running frequently to the phone memory (Voice Command, Phone Alarm etc)
I just bought nice standalone LCD Weather-forecasting station with Alarm built-in
I can't afford to not get awaken on time.
mikechannon said:
But have you ensured that you have done these things?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1078848&postcount=2
and read these threads to name but three?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282347&page=3&highlight=freeze
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288352&highlight=fake+server
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286544&page=6&highlight=freeze
Cheers
Mike
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Thanks for that but I had already tried all the solutions.
However... I think I may have found the problem.
Although I had removed all programmes, the one thing I did since my last post was to remove a dialer skin I had installed (my last resort). This seems to have made the problem go away (two days with no freezing so far)
Any comments on how on earth a skin could effect my TyTn?
I agree with you, I uninstalled a dialer skin (JPLDialer_Au24_Black from PaulyA) because it was conflicting alot with Magic Button.
The other thing I did was removed an item from my Today Items - Newsbreak (an RSS feed which needs an internet connection). I put it in my menu instead, and this has decreased problems as well.
Things seem to have improved slightly, and ActiveSync isn't opening as spontaneously like it used to.
Mine didn't turn on twice (it wasn't alarm, I manually tried to turn on) and it froze. I then rezlized it happens if you have something sensitive installed on storage, because when device wakes up the storage doesn't wakeup as quickly as the device.
So everything that remains in memory most of the time (today plugins and other stuff) I install on the device, not storage. No freezes since then, fingers crossed.
[email protected] said:
Thanks for that but I had already tried all the solutions.
However... I think I may have found the problem.
Although I had removed all programmes, the one thing I did since my last post was to remove a dialer skin I had installed (my last resort). This seems to have made the problem go away (two days with no freezing so far)
Any comments on how on earth a skin could effect my TyTn?
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Oh, oh. Spoke too soon. After behaving for a while it's back to its old tricks.
Phone does not wake up to recieve calls or text messages. Of course I only find out hours later when I switch it on to use it and get 5 text messages and 5 missed call notifications

HD2 Died..... or did it?

I'm in between surgery so thought I'd post a quick question where the answer is puzzling me.
Basically, I'm in wonder if this has happened to any other soul?
Picked up my HD2 when I came out of Theatre and it simply would not switch on.
Thinking it may be the battery that had run down I connected it to a power source to charge and noticed the Orange charge indicator did not light up.
Next I took out the battery and reinserted, then pushed the power button......
Still nothing.
Thinking was it a problematic battery (although it still should have switched on when connected to a power source) I exchanged the battery for the spare I take around with me.
Still nothing.
Finally, I reinserted the first battery and once again pressed the power button.
This time it fired up and loaded without any issue.
I checked the battery level ~ that indicated 56% still remaining.
So I am in puzzlement as to what may have caused it's temporary death.
Has any other had a similar experience?
Edit 01 ~ 24 Feb 2010
It would seem that to some (myself included) there is a fix that does indeed cure the problem and that is by using the software application MemMaid.
Others have tried SKTools but MemMaid seems to operate much better at terminating the freezes.
Unfortunately MemMaid is not free and seeing as HTC will not budge from this being a 'users personal settings' that is causing the freeze our only course of action at the moment is by using MemMaid.
However, please do note..... Not everyone has benefited from using MemMaid; why that is the case could be down to some individuality ~ a different setting, installed software, routine notification, etc. etc.
In other words first try the free trial version of MemMaid and if it seems to cure the the problem then do consider investing in it.... besides all this it is a great piece of software.
You can get hold of MemMaid here.
Word of Warning.....
Ensure you set up MemMaid correctly. I spent ages with member wacky banana throwing many personal messages between the two of us like fervid lovers until finally wacky came up with a setting we could use.
Below is the settings to apply to MemMaid:-
In your programs section you should see 2 icons, one called Memmaid Quick Clean and the other is Memmaid.
Click on the Memmaid icon and a window opens.
At the top left corner it should say Quick Cleaner but this is not relevant for now.
Put a tick in the the following options (the list is scrollable):
- compact ram
- windows temp files
- temp files
- ie cache files
- ie history files
- opera cache
- dead shortcuts
- duplicate notifications
- dangling notifications
- invalid notifications
- rebuild notification queue
- recycle bin
- google maps cache
Press the CLEAN button and wait for the tool to do its job then press the close button.
Next, on the bottom right of your screen, click the Tools option. From the drop-down menu choose CLEAN SCHEDULE.
Tick the following items:
- on soft reset
- daily (here you need to scroll to the right to select the icon with the 3 dots in it to set your schedule)
- show report (optional)
- show progress (optional)
Click DONE on the bottom left corner on your screen and job's a good 'un!
Edit 02 ~ 24 Feb 2010
Member jonbaker76 came up with a few extra tips to help alleviate the problem:-
1). Install MemMaid and follow settings provided by Beards & WB
[*]2). Disable the alarm (use G-Alarm maybe)
[*]3). Turn off Facebook updates
[*]4). Turn off Weather updates
[*]5). Turn off Internet Time Sync
[*]6). Wait a while before carrying out a soft reset, your Phone may just wake up
Edit 03 ~ 25 Feb 2010
Guys,
We are starting to find a pattern building up here relating the problem with Sense.
Some users don't have problems with ROM 1.48 but others Do/Did (I used to) so we can't say v1.48 was okay.
However, it's the later ROM's which seem to have the greater of the problem which could relate to an issue with Sense.
i.e. Although evident in v1.48 it was not as strong but with either Cooked ROM's or updated ROM's the problem has been magnified.
A few Guys have now tried using their HD2 without Sense and report a stable platform.
What I am saying here is if you have the problem and you can afford not to use Sense then try running your Phone without it for a trial and see how it performs...... With enough info we can pass this on to HTC.
I had a situation where I switched the phone back on (from standby/power saving mode) only to find it was dead. To get it running again I had to perform a soft reset and, like you, I found that I had plenty of battery remaining. This happened only once in three weeks of usage and I'm not sure what caused it.
James
I had a similar issue a few days ago.
I picked the phone up and pressed the power button, but nothing happened. I did the same as you and assumed that it was flat (despite me being a charging maniac!) I plugged it in and got no charging light, so I popped out the battery and put it back in. It turned on first time then.
I wasn't really concered as it's only happened once in over 3 weeks, and I'd only recently upgraded the ROM so I was ignoring any little foibles like this.
Maybe it's a little more common than I thought?
this has happened to me twice since upgrading to the new recent rom.
Beards said:
I'm in between surgery so thought I'd post a quick question where the answer is puzzling me.
Basically, I'm in wonder if this has happened to any other soul?
Picked up my HD2 when I came out of Theatre and it simply would not switch on.
Thinking it may be the battery that had run down I connected it to a power source to charge and noticed the Orange charge indicator did not light up.
Next I took out the battery and reinserted, then pushed the power button......
Still nothing.
Thinking was it a problematic battery (although it still should have switched on when connected to a power source) I exchanged the battery for the spare I take around with me.
Still nothing.
Finally, I reinserted the first battery and once again pressed the power button.
This time it fired up and loaded without any issue.
I checked the battery level ~ that indicated 56% still remaining.
So I am in puzzlement as to what may have caused it's temporary death.
Has any other had a similar experience?
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May be a warning from HTC for your now very famous camera thread,if I were you would be carefull LOl!!
hagba said:
May be a warning from HTC for your now very famous camera thread,if I were you would be carefull LOl!!
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....
Big brother watching us...
Beards,
Did you have any diary appointments or alarms set on the device today that you did not immediately cancel on notification or multiple alarms set/going off? If you did then this is probably a notification queue issue locking up the phone, forcing a reboot.
This symptom was very common with the TYTN when it first came out and drove me absolutely bananas!
Long shot but let me know.
WB
No... nothing was left to tie the Phone up.
I remember checking everything before I went down to Theatre earlier this morning.
In a way I'm pleased it's not an isolated case and that others have experienced something similar (sorry Guys, I don't wish it on you ~ just a little relieved I'm not the only one).
I know HTC monitor the 'Camera Problem' topic (they've told me this directly). Maybe they have some super-duper exra-terrestial monitoring machine that can achieve the Dynamics of masspoint collections..
Yep, I too have had this issue.
Was using phone normally, left it on stand by by pressing the power key. Wanted to make a call, it did not turn on. Opened back cover to do soft reset, did not turn on, started sweating..., swore at the phone and took battery out and then replaced battery and pressed power button and what do you know, booted up like nothing happened.
Am using original shipped UK ROM. Have not upgraded.
You should check this as well (first 2 might be from the same poster):
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=41974
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591226&highlight=freeze
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595646&highlight=freeze
I had the same problem - it happened only 2 times for a week, but it was nasty enough (and in combination with the camera problem) to make me finally send my phone back for a refund.
Basically the symptoms were similar - I would leave the phone somewhere for more than a couple of hours only to find it somehow switched off or something. The buttons light up when clicked, but the screen remains black - only battery removal helps and after that runs like normal...
I have quite a number of calendar notifications etc. - this might be a good clue!
I have the feeling that this thread might grow as big as the camera thread. Perhaps HTC fix that with a software update as well ...
A friend of mine had this problem with his HD2 on Sunday morning. He was surfing the web with it when it froze up. When he took the battery out/in again it wouldn't turn on.
He called HTC and they came to pick up his handset on monday. I guess he'll have to wait to get it back repaired Maybe he should have tried taking it out a few more times first.
deyanp said:
You should check this as well (first 2 might be from the same poster):
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=41974
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591226&highlight=freeze
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=595646&highlight=freeze
I had the same problem - it happened only 2 times for a week, but it was nasty enough (and in combination with the camera problem) to make me finally send my phone back for a refund.
Basically the symptoms were similar - I would leave the phone somewhere for more than a couple of hours only to find it somehow switched off or something. The buttons light up when clicked, but the screen remains black - only battery removal helps and after that runs like normal...
I have quite a number of calendar notifications etc. - this might be a good clue!
I have the feeling that this thread might grow as big as the camera thread. Perhaps HTC fix that with a software update as well ...
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I had something similar this morning, I have been using the alarm for the last 2 weeks with no problems. this morning the screen lit up, i saw the notification on the top but there was no noise. as a veteran of WM i dismissed it as "typical". however, the screen then went blank, the buttons would light up but nothing happened. I reset the phone to no avail, button still lit up but no screen - mild panic. removed and refitted the battery and all has been well since.
won't be too chuffed if it happens again....
rivets
Beards,
Notwithstanding that this may be some kind of new software or hardware problem, I just wonder about the notification queue.
I would try using a copy of SKTools to clear the notification queue ( I think you can do other tweaks as well but it's been a while since I used it) and see what happens.
Did you have any missed calls you did not answer today (another possible culprit, linked into auto screen lock = disaster).
I am simply putting ideas out for you to try to narrow the problem down. Don't know if any of this will work.
WB
PS: Just had another thought; have you installed an application onto your SD card that is on-screen? Used to have this issue with a weather application, sat on screen but installed to the SD card.
If the phone went into sleep mode and the application polled the weather servers then it would die a horrible death. De-installing and reinstalling to phone memory solved the problem.
Again its a long shot but you never know.
WB
Ive had that same problem twice last night within th space of 1/2 hour and the today i ran fine up until about 5pm today, where it froze, I updated the rom on sunday from O2 1.43 hope this is not gonna be a problem, anyone know where to get O2 1.43 rom just in case I have to return
wacky.banana said:
Beards,
Notwithstanding that this may be some kind of new software or hardware problem, I just wonder about the notification queue.
I would try using a copy of SKTools to clear the notification queue ( I think you can do other tweaks as well but it's been a while since I used it) and see what happens.
Did you have any missed calls you did not answer today (another possible culprit, linked into auto screen lock = disaster).
I am simply putting ideas out for you to try to narrow the problem down. Don't know if any of this will work.
WB
PS: Just had another thought; have you installed an application onto your SD card that is on-screen? Used to have this issue with a weather application, sat on screen but installed to the SD card.
If the phone went into sleep mode and the application polled the weather servers then it would die a horrible death. De-installing and reinstalling to phone memory solved the problem.
Again its a long shot but you never know.
WB
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Even though my profession is based on absolute accuracy in detail, when it comes to finding out why the HD2 died I'll try any long-shot.
There were no programs loaded though and I know nothing was paged to make the Phone send any notifications.
I'll have a good check at possible programs/dll's later though.
Thanks.
I've had the same a few times. Probably the reason was overloaded main memory. I removed some mp3 files, but the situation wasn't change.
htc touch pro2 vs hd2... just got the answer!
a day ago... i was unsure about the upgrade. i had posted tis msg in xda but was advised by a senior member tat it was worth the upgrade n i culd find all my answers to the query here. here was my msg...
"hi all. with all the hypes surrounding htc hd2... n my htc touch pro2 fast losing its crown of being the best winmo device in the market... shuld i upgrade to the hd2? n watz wif the glass screen? wuldn't it crack easily? it's glass! appreciate everyone's take on this. the only selling point tat is tempting me away frm my pro2 is abt the speed... 1ghz vs my miserable 528mhz... sad. everyone's talking abt its blazing speed. is it tat obvious?!
then again there's tat camera issue... the infamous pinkish spot, which htc support claims it's related to the 1ghz dragon fella... software related... n restricted to only a selected few?! so it's like going2 the lottery n c who gets the infected piece is it?! bottom line is... my pro2 seems like a honda civic... n the hd2 is purportedly a nissan skyline, but wif so many question marks hanging over its head, shuld i still go for the upgrade? thnx!"
guess wat, after reading most of the threads here... i think i'll stick with the htc touch pro2. the hd2 has way too many issues... even worse than the camera thingy tat i knew abt... but the number of issues tat r highlighted here abt the hd2... is enuf2 make me say no to hd2.
This thread here reminds me to some issues with WinMo 6.5/Manila 2.5 ROMs for the Xperia X1: Over there in the forum, you can find quite some postings describing the "standby of death" problem.
Just very close to some of the other issues we now face with the "real" Leo, too. In fact, there are more "similarities" like the stand-by issue, and nobody was really able to clearly reproduce the problem as there seems to be no pattern. The same problems are not existing in WinMo 6.1/Manila 2.1 ROMs for the Xperia - but some in a WinMo 6.1/Manila 2.5 version, when I follow the thread correctly.
I do strongly believe that there are, underneath the hood of Leo´s operating system, quite some nasty bugs in WinMo as well as Manila. I cannot imagine another explanation why 2 totally different devices with very different hardware (parts) would show the almost exact same issues.
Of course, porting the Leo ROM to something like Xperia may bring some issues, but most apparently, most bugs are coming from MS and HTC, not the talented chefs here. (One more reason to look forward to custom ROMs for the Leo. No good sign for HTC though, frankly spoken...)
mine die this morning too ... alarm didnt go off
but press and hold the power button wake the phone up and alarm start ringing. Then I power it off, and all the other buttons does not turn on the phone other than press and hold power button = soft reset ... weird
Camera patch is out today
waiting for new ROM release
Same thing happened to me this afternoon. The phone wouldn't start up when I pressed the power button so I tried holding the power button down to force a soft reset. At one point all the buttons lit up but nothing more happened. Eventually I pulled the battery out, stuck it back in and then the phone started.

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