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sometimes when i soft reset my mogul it goes into a sort of reboot loop, it will reset before loading the today screen
i have an app that lets me boot into a "safe mode" with all today plugins, autorun items and nonessential services disabled, however this too reboots (it resets before even loading the today screen, it resets at the wm6 splash screen)
any ideas? i suspect its some app i have installed, just seems weird that it would happen before anything else loads
When this happens, simply remove the SD card and the loop will stop.
Also, it seems that this has stopped if you have the most current ROM.
heh, i never even thought about pulling the SD card *kicks self*
ive been hesitent to get the latest rom because i dont want to reinstall all my apps and tweaks again, especially when i know ill have to do it for rev.A anyway, lol
thanks for the help, nice to see another chicagoan here (im in the south subs)
Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?
Those programs aren't really the cause...there have been reports of users who don't have them installed that had the reboot loop anyways. I have actually had the reboot loop after a hard reset with no installed programs and reg tweaks...
ScottC said:
Did you recently install the HTC audio manager and/or the HTC Home?
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no and no
havent had the problem again yet, so i havent been able to try the SD thing, but it makes sense since its happenening before autorun apps and services load
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Those programs aren't really the cause...
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I didn't say they were the cause, I was just trying to run past some programs that are known to cause these symptoms.
To flatout say that they are not the cause is just wrong. There is a combination of HTC home and the Audio manager that'll force the unit into a reboot loop you can't get out of.
So no one has found a cause for this? How would this even be feasible if you have startup programs installed on the SD card? I also wanted to put all mail downloads and attachments on the SD, but if I have to pull it out, WM6 creates a Storage Card folder and my actual SD becomes Storage Card 2. It's a pain to have to delete and rename and such especially considering how often the device has to be reset...
Althought the cause is not exactly known, it has been speculated to be a ROM issue. Since flashing to the latest ROM, I have not one reboot loop, and this has been for a few months now.
Those experiencing this, what ROM version do you have?
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Those experiencing this, what ROM version do you have?
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This was present in the 2.08 ROM and was fixed with the 2.09 ROM.
I installed the latest DCD rom no programs installed and it just keeps on looping sometimes it stops for a hr or two and than starts looping again
I tried re-installing the original sprint rom but the same thing keeps on hapening
Are you running Spb Pocket Plus? There are known issues by the developers regarding memory, battery, power meters in the Pocket Plus Today Plugin. For more info, go to Spb Club:
http://www.spbclub.com/forum/index.php
I tried everything, I put back the original Sprint rom didn't help. I went back to sprint they tried, coudlln't fix it, I got a new Phone out of the box.
They still have radio 1.32 and Rom 2.09 the blutooth works excellent on this.
I've had to return 2 phones in the last 2 months. My first phone would just freeze up for no reason. I could use the phone for a couple of hours then it freezed. Well the couple of hours soon became a few minutes than only for about a minute. If I took the battery out for awhile then I could turn it on again for a few minutes. It was as if the battery or cpu was getting hot and then freezing up.
The next phone worked good for 2 days and then all of a sudden it just died at the sprint logo. It boots up and shows the rom version with the sprint logo than the rom text disappears and its stuck at the sprint logo. It won't boot any further. It will stay on the sprint logo and the backlight will even go off after a few minutes. Strange... I am about to take this phone back tomorrow.
So far I've had nothing but bad experience with the durability of these phones. Once I get it set up properly it dies... :-(
i got a mogul aswell, nvr happened to me sorry can't help..
I just installed DCD2.3.2-Telus (several times) along with Titan_Radio_3.27.0. At first it worked wonderfully. The second I install anything to do with the GPS though, the system goes into a reboot loop. Actually it even started doing it last night without installing any navigation software.
- Google Maps
- TomTom 6
- Live Search
^^ Those are the 3 I've tried so far and all three have lead into reboot loops. I just flash the ROM again and everything is okay (for a while).
I've also tried running dcd_titan_2.1.0_telus and got the same problem once I installed one of the above Apps.
Does WM6 create dump files like in Windows so I can figure out what the hell is causing this? I want my GPS to work!!!!
After the reboot loops start, I tried removing the SD card as mentionned but it did nothing. Keep in mind I installed the programs to my internal memory.
Update: After flashing the ROM again to 2.3.2, the second I insert my SD card that also triggers the reboot loop.
Update #2: With the stock Rom, it seems to be working fine again. I think it's a problem with the GPS chip itself?
After spending the last few days trying to figure this out, I said the heck with it and contacted HTC to see what they have to say. Will post their reply once I get it. Hopefully there is a fix, because I hate this!! Now, I can't set my Spb Backup to run on auto, otherwise I wake up to the splash screen again....and again.....and again! I get so angry as I wait anxiuosly to see the result, today screen or verizon, and then *buzz*, I'm going crazy!
I had the same problem as you with my XV-6800 using the stock ROM and it always would go into reboot mode unless I ejected the sd card first. I could only put the card back in after it booted up. I also removed two programs from the device's main memory (Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 and a task switcher).
I'm currently running SPB mobile shell and SPB Pocket Plus (for the task manager) and it's working fine now.
The only thing I can suggest is to remove one program at a time and reboot to see if maybe there is software conflict
I'm lost - This evening I was having issues with Bluetooth on the rom I was playing around with - I've reverted back to good old JFv1.51_CRB43-ADP and the 2_22.19.26 radio, but no matter what I do, I can't get the damn thing to turn Bluetooth on. When I enable it, I see "turning on...", then it just goes back to staying off. I've wiped, reflashed the radio, done the rom upgrade again, but nothing helps.
Any thoughts?
Try using a different ROM and see what happens. If that doesn't help at all, the radio might be fried. I said might be fried, but it could be something else possibly. Doesn't hurt to try another ROM.
OK - I figured it out. Market was installing some apps on its own after every single new rom/wipe/reboot, and 2 of those apps were bluetooth toggling apps. Apprently when those apps install so soon after a fresh install, they screw something up. Even uninstalling them didn't help. So I removed them, then wiped (again) and that seems to have fixed it.
Weird and annoying, but at least BT works again.
Good, glad to hear that it is fixed. This thread can be closed.
I spoke too soon. Bluetooth STILL does not work. I was eventually able to turn it on with the rom I was using and the newest radio. but it would keep turning off again.
I've downgraded the SPL to the original hardspl, downgraded the radio (to 2_22.19.23) and downgraded the rom to Haykuro 5.02G, one that I *know* used to work perfectly, but still no luck.
Is there any better way to totally wipe the damn phone and start from scratch with it? I feel my only other option may be to exchange it.
Any log files I can inspect to see what is causing these problems?
I'm wiping each time I upgrade, so I have no idea why things are still messed up.
Man, you stumped me. Maybe its the phone dude, i really don't know about that one. Anyone else in here know why it would be doing this?
you could try posting a logcat around the time you turn bluetooth on, use adb shell logcat wait for it to stop scrolling crap and then turn on bluetoot(or try rather) and then post the last large section of stuff that happens, it might not help me but it might help someone else
I have a major problem with the slide lock function on the HD2. When the screen is locked, if the device is placed flat on a table (screen up), the screen lights every 30seconds, then dims, then goes off, then relights again.
This is killing my battery life. I haven't been able to find any other reports of this on this forum.
There are no notifications waiting on the phone while this is happening.
The only modification I have made to this device is to disable the HTC messaging app (using Zenyee's cab).
Anyone have any ideas?
Have you installed any other software at all?
Hmmm, now it has stopped doing it. Randomly. After doing it non-stop for 3 days, it suddenly stopped.
There's a lot of that kind of stuff going on with the HD2 ROM.
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Hmmm, now it has stopped doing it. Randomly. After doing it non-stop for 3 days, it suddenly stopped.
There's a lot of that kind of stuff going on with the HD2 ROM.
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It's not the "HD2 ROM". It's some buggy software that you installed on the phone yourself.
The phone does not do that out of the box (or with the official ROM updates.)
Try to think back to when it started happening, and what you'd recently installed. Uninstalling may not solve the problem, as you can't guarantee that all the changes will be backed out, but try to remember what you installed that caused this problem and uninstall it. If this doesn't work, a hard reset will probably be required.
Just wondering if anyone else out there has similar problems with the occasional Freeze on there HD2. Mine occurs maybe once every few days.
I am running Xanny's Evolution 1.4 but have had the problem with other roms.
Radio 2.0.8 with 576mb hack
Seems to be when I am coming out of file explorer (Other Apps as well) into the Sense Homescreen I get the freeze. Symptons
Title bar still shows previous app (eg, File Explorer)
Screen otherwise is 100% sense.
5% clock time change (Eg just starting)
Weather animation just starting.
I only have installed
DST Time Patch (Live in West Australia)
Core Player 1.3.6
TomTom
File Explorer Ext
Phone Log.
Radio still seems to be working. Eg pressing a button will light up buttons and they turn off after x seconds.
Ringing the phone doesn't send it to message bank. It just rings out. My phone does nothing to indicate incoming call.
First test was to flash a factory rom first (1.4.3). Froze about a day latter.
I then performed an MTTY. Again froze about 2 days latter.
Current test I have disabled weather animation. Has not crashed since. Been 5 days.
My HD2 freezes to, running LynxEX 1.3 WWE, radio 2.08.50. I installed the
Rom in 01.03.2010, everything was OK for a few days until yesterday when it started to froze more and more often.
Radio is working but I can not answer because the screen and buttons are not responding.
I am still going with out a freeze. Disabled weather animation and seems good. Will leave it another week.
Due to it seeming to be caused when redrawing the Sense homepage and multiple animations I took a punt.
When does yours freeze?
Welcome to windows mobile!
Its a common thing, no need to worry.
If you have apps installed on your SD card then try to end them normally i.e. from the app itself, if you use a task manager to kill it it may leave corrupted files on the SD card which may also freeze the phone.
Waiting for Android.........................
Mine never freezes!
Mine hangs 40% of the time after unlocking the screen.....
Official 1.66 ROM UK
It happends when I try to do something fast, after I unlock the screen, or use coreplayer. So i uninstaled coreplayer, until now it works !!! ???
Now i miss coreplayer and would try to skip the automat screen locker.
I am a long time Win mobile users.
Gone from Polaris, HD and now HD2
This freeze is quite specific. Just on the homepage.
Anyway, Its been a week now and still no freezes. Looks like it was a combination of multiple animations causing a conflict.
I get various other cases of it slowly grinding to a halt then responding very very slowly. Eg 30 secs for an unlock. Usually core player.
Also, no need to install to SD card. Heaps of room on internal.
It seemed to freeze when coming out of File Explorer. Might have been an issue introduced with the File Explorer Extension addon??
Mine freezes from time to time, but always on screen lock.
lock is unresponsive, do a reset (battery removal)
then sense only responds to the left portion of the screen, several resets later it will come back to normal.
anyone else seen this ?
Freeze
Mine also would freeze every once in awhile? I turned off weather for other cities, has not froze for, this is 3rd day? Wierd?
I've noticed a few 'freezes' on the 'unlock' screen as well. I think it has to do with the phone searching for a network; when it locks it was switching from
3G to H or to G.
Just to register another user with freeze issues. 1.66 Stock WWE Rom with whichever radio is bundled with it.
I haven't had an issue in the 4-5 weeks I've had the phone until I decided to give Twitter a go using the HTC Peep application. I then got 3 or 4 freezes in 24 hours. Uninstalled Peep from the Sense slide tabs and later on that day installed moTweets, again keeping it memory resident and automatically checking for tweets once an hour. It froze again last night.
Now I'm (fully) closing moTweets every time I've finished with it, and so far no freezes. It's only been 14-15 hours but we'll see.
Zef.
I keep getting problems myself on my TMOUS. The phone has frozen over 6 times in the past 2 days I've owned it. Its quite annoying. Everything is stock. No custom roms or anything. I've reset it to factory settings 3 times.
Might have tracked it down
Mine seems it may be related to File Explorer.
Coming out of or exiting file explorer. Also crashes if fire explorer is running and plug a usb cable in.
Running file explorer extensions. Might be the cause.
Mine started freezing for no apparent reason a few days ago.
Using a custom rom for months with no problems then all of a sudden freezes.
Tried some different roms and they all seem to do it now.
Only way is a hard reset for me, soft reset it freezes too.
Personally I'm thinking its a hardware fault seeing how it was a sudden occurance and doesnt matter which rom image is on there.
Unless its a radio problem, not tried changing that yet.
Was it while doing a certain thing?
Start taking note of what you were just doing then post. IT might help shed some light.
Mine was getting to twice a day. I then noted what was installed and changed my behaviour. And it started crashing less.
Also change the SD card. Noted a thread where the SD card is related to strange behaviour. Make sure the temp one gets a full format.
Best idea is to run your phone as minimally as possible (Software and app's for as long as possible. Slowly introduce behaviour and applications and note when it starts to become unstable.
Okay happened about 5 times today, each time it was while trying to recieve or make a call.
Text messaging is fine, internet sharing is fine, only while making calls
radio 2.06.51.07 i actually thought i had put 2.08 on a while back so going to change to 2.07 or 2.08 and see if that works.
updated to radio 2.07 and reflashed energy rom. dont hold out much luck.
seems to get stuck still on soft reset. so has to be hard reset everytime
oh and thats with no apps loaded
lets disable the whole phone... and cross ur fingers for someone out there who can save this phone from windows... period.. stop saying i disable this and it works better now. disable that and seems pretty good now, BS. u know is BS.. have all those problems.. i still dont understand how people still buying HD2!!!! omg... .
think i have found one of my problems
incompatable radio to rom image
or failing that trying the reformat Task 29
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657113&highlight=soft+reset
ninja12innotts said:
think i have found one of my problems
incompatable radio to rom image
or failing that trying the reformat Task 29
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657113&highlight=soft+reset
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lol.... whateva.
hi all,
i having my 1st Android phone (HTC Legend), but my set suffering Standby on Death (SOD), not sure if the right term. When it on standby, I not able to wake the phone; only way to remove the battery and on the phone again.
However, during it 'freeze' mode, try calling the phone; won't ring but caller doesn't get any engaged tone keep trying connect tone.
Please advise if any1 experience the above or any steps I can do.
** Try searching the web, only found SOD on Win phone.
Cheers.
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The same thing happend to me yesterday, for the first time (I pulled out battery to reset it). I had a few random resets last few days, but I do use my legend for app development testing, so i'm not sure if i somehow provoked the problem.
Offtopic, but just looking at logcat output of a normally running Legend you get impression that there are a lot of unfinished stuff, especially HTC applications (news widget is terrible)
I'm also seeing the same random resets on my Legend. Not sure what when wrong. I have a bunch of apps installed but I don't know if this relates to any of them.
It happened again just now. Restarts on daily basis now
just make a hard reset
Ok. I did a hard rest. And i don't want to install any apps, let it run in vanilla flavor for 2-3 days and see if it happens again.
If it does, that means it must be caused by one of the apps installed before
I had some SOD's, but after a complete clean and reset to original setting, everything disappeared.
Maybe it was a problem coming from installed software...
clean reset, wiped out everything. reset after 15hrs of up time. i'm going to RMA this thing
Hi all - first post here...
I have not long had my first HTC handset - and I really like it, but nearly every day I get this 'SOD'...as described here.
I had to remove the battery to wake it up again only this morning.
I have noticed, that it only seems to do this when it can't recieve the weather data (under the HTC clock)? the handset never seems to hang etc while it has this data?
Have others seen this? Could it be a bug?
Why not bring all SOD threads to one?
As I see all SOD's are same on all devices.
There is bunch of symptoms but if you have sod than you are experiencing some or all of the symptoms.
General help is to hard reset few times than flash shipped ROM then hard reset again few times then flash your favorite custom ROM or leave shipped, and reset again few times. And finaly set network to GSM+AUTO in Phone band configuration. Or try to change SIM with another network operator.
All of this helped some people but there is many who did not solve the SOD with this nor anything else.
I know I am posting in more than one thread same thing and it is not double or triple or X posting it is just help request for people who could finaly understand what is problem and help us all.
Sory, and thanks in advance.
Weather is not problem on my device, I did try turn it off, disable auto update of everything .... no difference.
Even I leave it connected to USB and it have the internet connection all time and I do not have SOD, I have DIM of death screen dims not turn of and if I disconect it and pres power to go to stand by or to turn off screen I can not power on device until i pull battery out few times - 4 - 5 timesto be precise or sometimes even more.
I got a new replacement unit and it works fine since. I guess my old unit was really defective
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
I have had to have my handset replaced now. My SOD contiuned and then the Mic gave up and no-one could hear me in calls - made it unusable as a phone. I also had battrey issues where the phone wouldn't charge and the battery meter read wrong.
All seems fine with this replacement handset.....