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Frustrating Boot Lockup

I am encountering the same frustrating lockup at the windows boot screen using either the O2 Rom or the Dec T-Mobile Rom. Any number of attempts to soft reset or remove battery and reset are having no effect and only a hard reset gets the phone working again.
The problem arises after I have installed third party software. All the software installed fine and is working 100% ok. If I then remove the battery ie to change the sim card. Put back the battery and switch on all I get is the Blue Windows Mobile screen and WM5 will not load.
Anyone encountered the same problem and know how to resolve it?
All I can think of is that some piece of software is causing the problem. Maybe trial and error ie install one programme then soft reset to test if WM5 boots properly will identify if a particular piece of software is causing the boot lockup.

I had the same problem on a MDA vario, have you got pocket plus installed?
if so its still good to use, but the safe mode option is not WM5 compliant, once installed, just edit the spb options and untick safe mode checkbox, now on soft reset it wont hang

Spot on!! Last night by process of elimination I discovered that the culprit was indeed SPB Pocket Plus.
Without that prog installed everything is fine and dandy. Install it and lock up occurs on soft re-boot.
I used the latest version of Pocket Plus as well which is supposed to be WM5 compliant.

thanks for that information, i got my kjam yesterday and installed pocket plus last night and i haven't reset it yet and when i was reading this i was thinking... "let me reset my device and see if it hangs" but i decided not to and go ahead and untick the safe mode option hahaha.

Solution/reason of hangup on WM screen
I have the same problem. See my "solution" here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1122263

stillo said:
I have the same problem. See my "solution" here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1122263
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LOL !!!
You are answering to a post almost 2 years old,they must have solved the problem or upgraded to a new Rom or even changed their phones.Plz check the date and thread before posting.
There's no fun invoking old posts just for the sake of posting,lol
PLZ !!! READ MY WORDS..... " DON'T SPAM "

8125: phone goes into hibernate and wont come out

well ...
just like the title states my 8125 will go into hibernate mode and whne i go to power it back up it wont. the service light is still flashing but the screen will not appear..
anyone have a solution ?

Had the same problem on and off. Upgraded to 2.26 and have not had the problem since.

and how do i go about doing that?
is it a hard procedure? amd is it easy to screw up?
i did a hard reset on the device and the problem went away, then after about a month or 2 of use again it seems to have started happening.

I had that problem after I installed the test bluetooth stack... probably a memory leak issue...

anyone have suggestion what i should do ?

I had the same problem too.. I installed Memmaid, and checked the notifications queue. There was a program I installed which placed itself to run when the device woke up.. When I deleted it the problem was solved. But be careful, just delete 3rd party software entries. I guess this is easier than uninstallling them one by one. After spotting the problematic software, you can consider uninstalling it. Hope this helps.

well, you did do a hard reset right? That should tell you what software you installed that caused this, that is if you do your app installation one by one...
Another advice given to me is to get a task manager and monitor if any process/app take up too much memory..

the only apps i have installed are:
SPB Pocket Plus
SPB Weather
MemMAID
Resco Photo Viewer
Batti
Smartskey
Eten Dialer Skin
NFpencil - some nothing drawing/sketch application
it gets really annoying, when i do a soft reset it starts off with 22mb of memory by the end of the day or next morning its down to 18-17-16mb which is usually when it would freeze.

Problems with rebooting of MDA Vario

I have a problem and I hope someone can help me.....
First of all I have been having problems when soft-resetting my MDA Vario. When soft-resetting my device, it freezes when starting up. I have the following programs installed:
Wisbar Advance 2
SBSH PocketBreeze
SBSH PocketWeather
Windows Live Messenger Beta
I haven't found out what is causing the problem, but everytime it freezes I have to hard-reset my device which is totally getting frustrating!!! Usually it takes me about an hour to reinstall everything again, sync my contacts, tweaks in my registry and so on.
Has anyone else been having this problem or knows what is causing it to do this???? I'm just reinstalled everything again and everything is running smooth again, but I'm afraid to soft-reset my device again because I'm afraid it will freeze again on startup. Furthermore, everytime I sync my device I have a pain in the royal to get my contacts back the way they are....
I'm open to any suggestions! Thanks in advance!!

Freezing
Try not re-installing one of them after your next hard-reset.
It it no longer freezes - you have the culprit.
Charlie Grillo

I have a feeling that it's WLM that is causing the problems. I know I shouldn't have installed it, but once you use it your hooked! Going back to the old Pocket MSN is like trading in a Ferrari for a old Toyota Corolla... although the old Corolla is like old fateful and won't let you down, driving a Ferrari is like a dream!
Anyway.... I will try rebooting when I get home and see if I find out the problem. Have you had this problem too ? Or is it just me ? I've done some searching and it seems that others have the problem but haven't been able to pin point it.
I just hope I can uninstall the WLM beta off my device without hard-resetting it.....

One thing I noticed on my device is that when you boot it up and leave it alone it will crash, but if you touch the screen or press a button every 30 seconds or so it boots up fine.
Think it is something to do with the standby setting after x seconds, if thats disabled it boots up ok.

Thanks for your reply!
I reinstalled everything on my phone again... getting to be a real pain reinstalling everything. Anyway, my vario works fine now with WLM, that did seem to be the problem.
But, how did you manage to disable the standby setting ??? And how did you find it out??? Have you tested this enough to know that this is the cause?
Maybe there is a registry tweak that will help, can anyone say which adjustment is necessary in your registry???

My Wizard has multiple bugs, need help solving

I understand that this forum is filled with developers. So I am hoping for some informed help. If you have any of these same problems please respond as well. I would like to know if these are isolated to my setup
I migrated from a cel phone and a PPC running WM2003/2003se. Mainly for the converged device, but also for the persistent storage. I run a small business, and and am very busy and rely on my phone and schedule all day everyday.
I have only had the wizard (MDA) for about 3 weeks and experienced odd problems since the first weekhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
. Unfortunately I did not buy new, so I am not sure if any of these are covered by warranty or not... I am just going to list the problems:
1) If I leave my phone plugged in at night to charge than by the time I wake up the phone will not come out of standby. I have to press the soft reset button to get the unit to work again. This happens intermittently
2) I use an alarm program so that the unit acts like an alarm clock. If the phone is plugged in at night, and does not experience problem number 1, than the alarm just won't go off. I turn on the phone and the alarm program is open, but it did nothing. If the phone is not plugged in than the alarm works fine.
3) Soft buttons. I have the registry set to remap what the soft buttons do. I use Agenda Fusion (Latest Version) so i have them set to open the calendar and the contacts to Agenda Fusions view of them. This works most of the time. On occasion the soft buttons just stop working except for running through the menus for reminders.....
4)The other day i went to take a photo, the camera said that it could not proceed because there was not enough memory. At the time I had 30 megs of storage free, about 12 megs of program free and about 900 meg left on my sd card...
5) Every so often the unit won't launch a program, it says that the exe is unsigned or not trusted. It works every other time though.
6) I use cLaunch. Every so often cLaunch disappears from the today screen. The only wat to get it to reappear is to remove it from the today screen from the today items menu, wait a couple of seconds and then return it to the today screen.
7) Every so often the unit stops recognizing the sd card..have to remove and re-insert
8) I use reminders for all my calender and to do items. Occasionally the reminder will go off for a certain item 24 hours in advance, even though the setting is correct in the item...
I feel like I am missing a few problems. But you get might point, WM5 is weird. All of the above can be corrected with a soft reset. But sometimes the problems show up multiple times a day. Causing me to have to soft reset in the most inconvenient times, several times a day.http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/mad.gif
I did not have these problems under WM2003. I have a friend who uses a Verzion phone that is similar to the wizard (made by a different company though, not HTC...it has an external antennae and that is where the stylus is stored as well) She and I were comparing phones today. Hers runs WM5 but she said that she has never experienced any of these problems in the 1 year that she has owned hers...
Is this an HTC Wizard problem? A WM5 problem with the wizards? Would it help if i installed on of the alternate roms that I read about here on XDA developers? I am considering a hard reset and starting from scratch but I don't want to go that route unless it is the only way. And if I do, I may just use one of those roms.....What does everybody think?http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/confused.gif
Sorry for the long winded post....

Seems like a software problem based on (1) and (2). Is the ROM an official ROM?

Re:
Hello Hanmin Thanks for responding,
Re Number 1. I just saw that some one else posted with that problem. So I will see if they have they same alarm program installed. I have wondered if everything is software related. Thats why I am hoping to see if others are having these types of problems, and if so, what programs they are using...
Re the rom...yes it the official T-mobile release, version listed in my sig.
Thanks again

New problem
I have just encountered a new problem:
While picking up my voice mail the system would not register my button pushes. Weather on screen or the hardware buttons. I could not interact with voice mail, nor could I end the call with the hardware button or the soft button....I had to reset the phone to end the call!!
How frustrating is that

Have you tried reflashing the original ROM? Being a used phone that would be the first thing I would do. It's going to wipe out all your data and return it to an "out of box" state, so i suggest backing up anything important and sync to your PC. If that doesn't work then you have a hardware issue but I'm willing to bet that should take care of it. You can find the original ROM on HTP's website. Good Luck

Thank you
Thanks for that suggestion....I am hoping to not go down that road, if I can help it. But I will do it if there are no other options. So If I may ask: How many votes does re flashing old Rom Get? And are there any other ideas?
Again Thanks. I am going to download the rom in case it does come to that....

wait...the phone dosen't wake up unless you push the small button on the top of the phone? That is not the default setting on the MDA, however it's acting naturally. Our phones go on a standby to save power. Click the battery icon in the lower right hand corner-->Click the Advanced tab--> uncheck Turn off device on external power

Misunderstanding....
When the phone is plugged in over night and reaches %100 charge some times it won't "Wake Up" even hitting the power button on top. The only thing that will turn it on is the "Soft Reset" button on the right side, beneath the IR sensor.

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It sounds like you have software problems - possible a corrupt notification queue - personally i would do a hard reset of the device - probably in the process of this i would soft reset before the t-mobile extras install - taking details of gprs, mms settings before this.
I would run the phone without installing software to see that its not a hardware problem. Then reinstall programs one by one and see how it goes. Some software like claunch is not made for wm5 so expect some glitches (i use claunch and get occ glitch)
If you dont want to hard reset check the notification queue for duplicates and rogue scripts using check notifications - attached - install via pc. Dont delete notifications important for system running - common duplicates are clock\calendar.

alarm problems
Hi,
frankly i had similar issues - less critical but annoying: alarm clock not waking me up, slow system, notification queue mess, difficult resets, camera issues, bluetooth a2dp skipping. I upgraded my Qtek multiple times, and finally i can say that 2.26 roms (i use molski's) are exceptionally stable and reliable. The problem is not Wm5, the problem is how buggy many released versions are. So, my suggestion: look to the forum, find roms that appear to have a reliable history, cross your fingers and...upgrade. Then, resist in upgrading to any rom that just came out and appear to be faster, cooler, nicer. Unless you have an issue to be solved, and you see 100 messages confirming that the rom is stable and does the job...

Thank you meschle and pzucchel for the thorough answers. I am going to try the notification queue first.
@ Meschle: where do I find the gprs, & mms settings? And should I just copy them down by hand? Then after re-starting w/out tmobile crap, do I just put these settings in the same place as where I found them?
@ Pzucchel: Do you believe that Molski's 2.26 is more stable than the Tmobile factory installed 2.26?
Thanks again

cameraddict said:
Thank you meschle and pzucchel for the thorough answers. I am going to try the notification queue first.
@ Meschle: where do I find the gprs, & mms settings? And should I just copy them down by hand? Then after re-starting w/out tmobile crap, do I just put these settings in the same place as where I found them?
@ Pzucchel: Do you believe that Molski's 2.26 is more stable than the Tmobile factory installed 2.26?
Thanks again
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Write them down manually its the safest way - there are cabs available but often dont work.
GPRS - settings\connections\connections\manage existing connectons - settings should be here prob named t-mobile
MMS - go into messages\menu\options\MMS\servers click on prob t mobile again.

Thanks again!

HTC HD - Settings freezing my phone :(

Hi,
This is my first post here and obviously it's a problem related issue.
I have my HTC TOUCH HD, for about 1 week now.
Everything worked great, until yesterday, when i tried to install the following:
- installed the HTC Hotfix for responsivness, seemed to work fine.
- than i wanted my phoen call to be announced with voice, so i tried to findVoiceCommand (cracked, shame on me)
- downloaded something from this forum, that was posted on rapid share.
Oh Joy and than the problems started:
- It gave an error when installing
- than o n reboot, it toook waaay to long to boot up.
- than i tried to go into the settings to remove it.
Now, EVERYTIME i try to enter the settings, it just freezes, i can not access anyting any more, not even the upper power button, only taking out the battery will work.
Rebooting, i used total commander (thank God i had it installed before) to delete the startup link for voice commander and the entiere voice commander folder.
Now, unfortunate this did not do the trick.
Accessing the settings button will still freeze my HD (
I am very very very frustrated, do not know how to restore it to previous state. Pretty please someone can guide me what to do ?
Thank you in Advance.
ps: everything else seems to work fine, though

Do you think hard reset is the best way??

Yes, unfortunate, this was my only solution.
After digging for more than 4 hours, sleeping 4 hours, digging more hours, i gave up and did a hard reset.
(i even had to digg that up too )
Now everything is back to normal, BUT my weather application is not updating through GPRS / 3G any more, only through wireless.
There is no option for me to set it through what connection it should connect
(Only in coinnection manager, and there its set fine, i already tried everything, and internet seems to work, just fine)

sneila said:
After digging for more than 4 hours, sleeping 4 hours, digging more hours, i gave up and did a hard reset.
(i even had to digg that up too )
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WIKI nr 32 of this page

Same thing happend to me. I have now managed to get back into my settings. I think there are two ways.
1. Use active sync to remove the program
2. I installed the 1.5 trail version (which doesn't run) but let me back into settings so I could uninstall MSVC and then uninstall the trail.
start up still seems a bit slow and the first time you press settings it is a little slow going in but after the first time it is fine.
The better option might be a hard reset but it isn't one for me at the moment as I have far to much stuff to re-install and setup. I really want MS voice commander but I am to scared to try and install any versions

sound like the program had a virus maybe

go to startup in windows explorer and remove the shortcut related to it. this will solve the problem.

Damn stop listening to people that quickly tell you to hard reset.
I had a similar problem in which i couldn't access Settings to remove the program that was causing it.
I connected the phone to ActiveSync and you can easily the program from there. Problem solved.

Another way to uninstall would be to launch the CAB file again (the one with the "bad" program). You will asked if you should remove the old version first, say yes, then cancel installation when it asks where to save the new version. Together with a soft-reset thereafter, in most cases it should work out ...