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Dropped my Jasjar inside a WC :( Please advice

It happend while I was taking my cloths off for taking a bath
I dropped it inside our WC and my 2GB SD Card was gone far away inside that damn WC and never found it
I tried to pull out the battery but I couldn't pull that damn battery out for 5 min.
Anfter 5 hours drying with a hair dryer I put the battery and other stuff back and there was NO life After pushing the softreset hole some 10-20 times and putting it to charge there was a little life back some blue lines at the screen.
Now after 5 more hours it starts, but after some resets (some times there is only blue lines) and when it starts it freezez very much...
Should I send it for repairing?
Does the worranty covers it? (I bought it from Internet)
Would reflashing help?
Please advice...

tbh, I would have left it to dry normally in a warm place for 24 hrs before even considering to power it up, as (not 100% certain) I think the hairdryer creates static, which could damage the electronics inside, plus, you can't guarantee that it will have dried it out completely, which means, when you started it up, it could have still been damp in the middle and damaged something.
does it look like it has been water damaged? if not, then your best bet would be to not mention that fact, and just say it has suddenly started being funny, not booting up and freezing alot.
I doubt a reflash will fix it, but it is something for nothing, so worth a shot, however long it is.
*edit* if the company won't replace it, you could try your house insurance...

Thanks alot for the reply wytey,
I think there is something damaged, becouse when I soft reset it after freezing there comes a couple of times a light blue screen with blue and white lines...after soft reseting 3-4 times again it loads normaly again but freezez after 5-10 mins again
I was soo happy with my Jasjar >:'(

Your device has been damaged by water.
This is not covered by warranty.
It might not be covered by any insurrance you might have through your service provider.
You may be able to get it covered under home insurrance.

There isn't a case for a wet PDA. But I've read a recent article of getting back a Linksys router that has been soaked wet by rain water. See the real life experience here
http://www.grynx.com/index.php/projects/salvage-your-device-after-liquid-spill/1/
Probably you can do the same?

I dropped my Wizard in the bath, took out the battery and let it dry for about a day or so. Evrything works just fine.. So you should have dry it for over a day or more to be shure no water is left in it

Very timely.
http://www.lifehacker.com/software/hardware/save-your-electronics-from-spilled-liquid-150085.php
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Thanks for replies guys,
Usefull article, but I think it's too late now, I couldn't take out the battery for 5 mins, then how to open the device and clean the components/circute
Can they prove it if I don't mention water?
Home insurrance would be a big lie, but who cares they get money from me every month (what to say to them? stolen? bropped in water?)
Thanks again for your times guys

I may be wrong , but I beleive there is an "indicator" in most modern equipment that shows up if there has been any water damage

anyone who knows how to repair phones and look at pcb boards etc. will KNOW right away that it has been water damaged. Impossible to hide (unless you yourself are also a technician).
I know because I own a phone repair shop and have been doing repairs for a lot of years.
One of the IC may be damaged, so when your device starts to get warm (as you said 5-10 mins) it cannot hold the power.
Just think yourself lucky that it's only an IC and not a CPU.
E-mail me on [email protected] if you need more help and advice

hb328_dtdd said:
anyone who knows how to repair phones and look at pcb boards etc. will KNOW right away that it has been water damaged. Impossible to hide (unless you yourself are also a technician).
I know because I own a phone repair shop and have been doing repairs for a lot of years.
One of the IC may be damaged, so when your device starts to get warm (as you said 5-10 mins) it cannot hold the power.
Just think yourself lucky that it's only an IC and not a CPU.
E-mail me on [email protected] if you need more help and advice
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THanks alot for the info hb328_dtdd
If it's an IC, is it hard to repair it? how much would it cost me?
thanks

I (or whoever you decide to check the device) will have to open the unit up and clean out the residue of water and then do thorough tests first, it may not be an IC problem, even if it is an IC problem it may not actually be broken and will work again after cleaning and sonic waves passed through it.
Depending on which IC is broken and how hard it is to replace it, and also if it has caused any other side effects to the other chips, the repair in theory should not cost too much at all as it does not seem serious (from what I read from your post anyway).
E-mail me with more description of the problem and I will try and give you some tips to get it running, if that fails then you can decide whether to send it away or take it to local engineer to repair.
Hope this helps

the Gadget (Ch 5 UK )show did a piece on stuff getting wet. I htink they all came back to life one way or another but the were left to dry slowly I think for a day or 2. so you could hold out for live in the thing yet?

I hate the fact that Dopod 900 is very slippery, don't you think? I'm looking for a rubber casing like the one for O2 and Ipod.
Dopod 900 enclosure is too slippery, I'm so worry I may drop it too.

I am selling some Pocket PCs and this happened to two of my customers. But the device was an Ipaq 37XX and 38XX.
Both devices I put on a warm place and left there for 4 days. Then after this I powered them up. The Ipaq 37XX had only a bad LCD light, which was flickering sometimes and was not bright. the 38XX worked good again.
Anywasys, you need to check your device and have it cleaned. The biggest problem is the fact that there is so little space between smd mounted chips and the PCB that the water stays in between never drying and makes the metal rust. I had this experience with a cell phone already.
So you can try following:
(1) pay for cleaning and repair
or
(2) try to get it guarantee exchanged, which is also possible as for a pocket pc the technicians normally do not check for water damage. But if you have bad luck, somebody will notice this and you get nothing replaced.

I managed the same thing a while ago with my Xda2, and the symptoms were pretty much the same when it first happened (random lines and 'blotches' across the screen, freezing)..
Without haste, I removed the battery, sd card and mopped up any moisture from inside the battery compartment.. placed it in a warm place in an attempt to evaporate the moisture from the device. I left it for 24 hours before powering the device back up.
It DID work afterwards and I was a bit suprised and relieved at its resilience to liquid.
The important thing is to make sure the board and pins of the chips are not shorted by liquid, if you cannot get to the board, evaporation in a warm place is probably your best bet...Just watch out how you apply heat for the sake of the screen (and possibly the keys on the exec).

I dropped my XDA II into a canal and managed to save it. The problem is the water can't evaporate easily. I took the battery off and put it on a radiator. It took 7 days to finally dry out! It worked ok though.
You probably still have water in yours, so I would recommend putting it on a radiator or somewhere hot and just leaving it. You haven't got anything to lose

After almost 2 days inside the radiator it still has the same freezing/dying problem I thinks something is damaged inside ((( And now I can't find any electronic service in Denmark who can repare it

just because it's dry doesn't mean it fix itself, people often mistake this. Sometimes people get their phones to WORK after it's DRY but little do they know what is really happening inside the phone each time they power it back on and the residue is still there inside the phone lurking in the spaces between the pcb and the chips.
no matter what anyone says, I always tell people the same thing:
YOU MUST GET IT PROFESSIONALLY FIXED

My suggestion and this has never failed me yet.
1. After being dropped in liquid, DO NOT SWITCH ON - This is where most of the real damage will occur. If it is/was switched on remove battery as quickly as possible.
2. Strip down and remove any thing you can do easily, covers, sd card, stylus, sim, battery.
3. Waste a whole aerosol of switch cleaner, squirt it anywhere and everywhere you possibly can, literally fill it up with the stuff so it is pouring out of every hole. Do NOT use WD40, it must be electrical switch cleaner that will leave no residue at all!
4. Allow as much as possible of the switch cleaner to drip out and then allow it to dry, do not force dry with a hair dryer and even a radiator is too harsh. I find airing cupboard where the hot water tank is is the best place.
5. Leave at least 48 hours before putting everything back together and switching on, if it does not work straight away, strip it down again and leave another 24 hours, keep repeating for 7 days.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=27515&criteria=switch cleaner&doy=29m1
Good luck!

Possibly trashed my G1

Hey.
I'm wondering if someone can lend me a hand here. I was rock climbing last weekend, left my phone in my jacket pocket, and I suspect someone may have stepped on / thrown my jacket.
In any case... it's not working right now. It doesn't start up, and there's no light when I plug it into the USB/wall chargers. Any hints on whether this thing is totally trashed? The phone was in its case the whole time, and its exterior looks completely undamaged as far as I can tell, with no scratches, etc. Another possibility is that it got rained on, but I highly doubt that the water penetrated the outside of the phone (especially given that it was in the case the whole time).
If anyone can help me getting my phone working again I would be eternally grateful.

you're kidding me,right? your phone doesn't start,no led comes on when you plug it in,and you want someone to tell you if it's trashed? did you check that the battery is properly seated?

hey whats going on? Heres what I suggest, take it to the tmobile store and tell them that the phone was charging and it started acting funky so you turned it off, and than it never came back on. From there they will switch out your battery, than if that dosent work they will just give you a new phone right there in the store. Long as no water damage which i dought it does. Just do that and you will be ok, I have done that many of times lol.

>did you check that the battery is properly seated?
Yes. I also wiped the contacts on the battery and the device.

mikesx4911 said:
hey whats going on? Heres what I suggest, take it to the tmobile store and tell them that the phone was charging and it started acting funky so you turned it off, and than it never came back on. From there they will switch out your battery, than if that dosent work they will just give you a new phone right there in the store. Long as no water damage which i dought it does. Just do that and you will be ok, I have done that many of times lol.
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Unfortunately it isn't quite that simple for me. I live in Canada; I purchased this phone several months ago basically new off eBay (it was used for a couple of weeks). Funnily enough, my iPod which was "naked" in the same pocket as my phone is also undamaged and continues to function normally. Are there any tests I can do to better determine the location of the problem?

sorrofix said:
Unfortunately it isn't quite that simple for me. I live in Canada; I purchased this phone several months ago basically new off eBay (it was used for a couple of weeks). Funnily enough, my iPod which was "naked" in the same pocket as my phone is also undamaged and continues to function normally. Are there any tests I can do to better determine the location of the problem?
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You're gonna need some technical know how. Open the phone and check the mobo for any disconnected cable and/or water damage. There is really nothing you can do that you haven't already done from the outside of the phone. If possible, find a local repair shop and have them take a look at it.

Update: so basically I took out the battery, waited a day or so, put it back in, and all the buttons lit up on the phone (but the LCD remained blank and so did the charging light).
Took the battery back out, waited another day, put it back in, and the phone suddenly turned on and has been working fine since. Anyway, thank you everyone for your help.

Water Damaged G1?

I spilled water on my phone they other night in my sleep. When I awoke the phone was still on but had frozen up. Upon a reboot it locked up on the splash screen and with a couple more tries it locked up on a black screen. Eventually I got it to boot to home but the touch screen isn't working and I'm getting force closes when I try to open any apps. I tried leaving it in uncooked rice to absorb the moisture overnight but I'm still getting the same problems. Anything I can do?

There are two very important rules when electrical equipment is soaked.
1: take the battery out as quickly as possible so it shuts down and doesn't short.
2: LEAVE IT OFF UNTIL COMPLETELY DRY! This can not be stressed enough. Having it turned on with water inside is like trying to kill yout phone intentionally.
I find the best way to dry it is to take of any covers, batteries, sd-cards, sim cards ad anything else you can easily dissasemble, and then leaving it in an oven on 40-50 degrees overnight. Electrical stove is kind of neccessary for this though, unless you have a gas stove with good temp adjustment.

If I bought a cracked LCD G1 and replaced the digitizer with the one on my broken phone (touch screen isn't working) it should be fine right? There are no actual electronics to the digitizer screen, right?

Snakebear said:
If I bought a cracked LCD G1 and replaced the digitizer with the one on my broken phone (touch screen isn't working) it should be fine right? There are no actual electronics to the digitizer screen, right?
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Theoretically, that should work. Haven't done it so I cant account for it.
However, how will that stop the FC's?

No, you misunderstood. I plan to buy a functional G1 with a cracked digitizer and use my old digitizer from the water damaged phone to fix it.

Nevermind, just found out the glass has some electrical parts to it and that's probably what I shorted out. Guess that's out.

I had my phone in my pocket when i went on a drunken creek walk. Long story short I pulled my battery had the same problems as you. So for my fix I wiped flashed a new rom then wipe again for good measure. Stopped force closes and works like a charm now.

read my post here for water damage if it happens again....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616213

Well I did a Nand backup to no avail but I havn't tried a full wipe/format. Maybe I will give that a go and see if it helps. Did your touch screen also fail?

I'm currently using the G1 my brother dropped in a toilet. It accidentally turned on when he was removing the battery. It's really odd that the phone is working 100% at the moment.
Give it a few days before you rule it dead.

My sister dropped a RAZR in the toilet one day (Stoopit!) so my dad took it out (no pee in derp), hair dryer, rice, window, BAM!

Snakebear said:
Well I did a Nand backup to no avail but I havn't tried a full wipe/format. Maybe I will give that a go and see if it helps. Did your touch screen also fail?
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The left side of my screen did not work for about 5 hours after I placed it in rice. Some say you need to keep it in rice for a full day or so. Basically take out the SD card, sim card, and battery and place the rest of the phone submerged in rice for at least 8 hours or so. Then try the phone.
BTW, my phone was acting sluggish ever since then so this morning, I did a factory wipe of the phone and things seem to be working normally. I also copied the SD contents and formated the card.

Touchscreen only working sometimes.

My HTC Magic is acting very weird. It started when i had it in my pocket when it was raining. So i tried to use the phone it didn't respond when i tapped the phone. It's just odd that when i turn off the phone and boot it up some hours later, it works. But only for a couple of minutes, then it's not responding again.
One time i was playing teeter and suddently the G-sensor didn't work. The ball didn't roll and the touchscreen didn't work either.
Also, sometimes the charging led does not respond when i charge the phone.
The trackball switches between not responding roll and not responding to being pressed. Sometimes both things work, sometimes they don't.
The phone has been exposed to water before, about 3 weeks ago, but back then i used a hairdryer and it was good to go after that.
Here is what i have tried so far:
Opened the phone and cleaned the screen.
Made sure that the cables were plugged in.
Installed the stock rom from HTC.
Used a hairdryer.
None of these things had any effect
Could somebody please tell me whats wrong with it.

Check the other boards in the phone for water damage and clean. Hope it'll help.

lookitzloy said:
Check the other boards in the phone for water damage and clean. Hope it'll help.
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Right now i have put the phone into a bowl with rice. I've heard that it might help removing the moisture. If it doesn't work, i'll try your method.

DVP sudden weird behaviour

Hi,
I have a DVP 16 GB. It's been 1 year. A few days back it got wet in the rain. When I took it out of my leather case, the back button and search button lights were on and the camera was continuously blinking. I took apart everything and dried it in a bowl of uncooked rice. After that, it was working fine. No problems. Then suddenly from yesterday, it has started to act very weirdly. Whenever I switch it on, it works for a few seconds and then freezes. If I lock it, it freezes. But it remains switched on. The touch just doesn't seem to work. I have even hard reset it but to no avail.
At times, it works, i.e., after a few shut downs and reboots, but very slowly. The touch takes ages to respond. Please help.

cheerfulari said:
Hi,
I have a DVP 16 GB. It's been 1 year. A few days back it got wet in the rain. When I took it out of my leather case, the back button and search button lights were on and the camera was continuously blinking. I took apart everything and dried it in a bowl of uncooked rice. After that, it was working fine. No problems. Then suddenly from yesterday, it has started to act very weirdly. Whenever I switch it on, it works for a few seconds and then freezes. If I lock it, it freezes. But it remains switched on. The touch just doesn't seem to work. I have even hard reset it but to no avail.
At times, it works, i.e., after a few shut downs and reboots, but very slowly. The touch takes ages to respond. Please help.
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Sorry can't really help man. But what it's worth, I haven't read anything like that appearing on the DVP, so it might not be a usual failure on this phone and rather related to the swim it took? If you grab a parts DVP off ebay, maybe you can swap parts until you isolate the prob... at least you might be able to find a cracked screen phone and place your screen on that puppy? Good luck. Phone probs suck :crying:

aleunge said:
Sorry can't really help man. But what it's worth, I haven't read anything like that appearing on the DVP, so it might not be a usual failure on this phone and rather related to the swim it took? If you grab a parts DVP off ebay, maybe you can swap parts until you isolate the prob... at least you might be able to find a cracked screen phone and place your screen on that puppy? Good luck. Phone probs suck :crying:
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I got a touch screen, took it to a shop, got it replaced and it still is dead.The shop person told that the touchscreen strip is faulty. That needs to be replaced. Any idea on where I might get it?

cheerfulari said:
I got a touch screen, took it to a shop, got it replaced and it still is dead.The shop person told that the touchscreen strip is faulty. That needs to be replaced. Any idea on where I might get it?
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Can anyone tell if it is the problem with the whole strip or just the ic?:fingers-crossed: