Water Damaged G1? - G1 General

I spilled water on my phone they other night in my sleep. When I awoke the phone was still on but had frozen up. Upon a reboot it locked up on the splash screen and with a couple more tries it locked up on a black screen. Eventually I got it to boot to home but the touch screen isn't working and I'm getting force closes when I try to open any apps. I tried leaving it in uncooked rice to absorb the moisture overnight but I'm still getting the same problems. Anything I can do?

There are two very important rules when electrical equipment is soaked.
1: take the battery out as quickly as possible so it shuts down and doesn't short.
2: LEAVE IT OFF UNTIL COMPLETELY DRY! This can not be stressed enough. Having it turned on with water inside is like trying to kill yout phone intentionally.
I find the best way to dry it is to take of any covers, batteries, sd-cards, sim cards ad anything else you can easily dissasemble, and then leaving it in an oven on 40-50 degrees overnight. Electrical stove is kind of neccessary for this though, unless you have a gas stove with good temp adjustment.

If I bought a cracked LCD G1 and replaced the digitizer with the one on my broken phone (touch screen isn't working) it should be fine right? There are no actual electronics to the digitizer screen, right?

Snakebear said:
If I bought a cracked LCD G1 and replaced the digitizer with the one on my broken phone (touch screen isn't working) it should be fine right? There are no actual electronics to the digitizer screen, right?
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Theoretically, that should work. Haven't done it so I cant account for it.
However, how will that stop the FC's?

No, you misunderstood. I plan to buy a functional G1 with a cracked digitizer and use my old digitizer from the water damaged phone to fix it.

Nevermind, just found out the glass has some electrical parts to it and that's probably what I shorted out. Guess that's out.

I had my phone in my pocket when i went on a drunken creek walk. Long story short I pulled my battery had the same problems as you. So for my fix I wiped flashed a new rom then wipe again for good measure. Stopped force closes and works like a charm now.

read my post here for water damage if it happens again....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616213

Well I did a Nand backup to no avail but I havn't tried a full wipe/format. Maybe I will give that a go and see if it helps. Did your touch screen also fail?

I'm currently using the G1 my brother dropped in a toilet. It accidentally turned on when he was removing the battery. It's really odd that the phone is working 100% at the moment.
Give it a few days before you rule it dead.

My sister dropped a RAZR in the toilet one day (Stoopit!) so my dad took it out (no pee in derp), hair dryer, rice, window, BAM!

Snakebear said:
Well I did a Nand backup to no avail but I havn't tried a full wipe/format. Maybe I will give that a go and see if it helps. Did your touch screen also fail?
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The left side of my screen did not work for about 5 hours after I placed it in rice. Some say you need to keep it in rice for a full day or so. Basically take out the SD card, sim card, and battery and place the rest of the phone submerged in rice for at least 8 hours or so. Then try the phone.
BTW, my phone was acting sluggish ever since then so this morning, I did a factory wipe of the phone and things seem to be working normally. I also copied the SD contents and formated the card.

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Dropped my Jasjar inside a WC :( Please advice

It happend while I was taking my cloths off for taking a bath
I dropped it inside our WC and my 2GB SD Card was gone far away inside that damn WC and never found it
I tried to pull out the battery but I couldn't pull that damn battery out for 5 min.
Anfter 5 hours drying with a hair dryer I put the battery and other stuff back and there was NO life After pushing the softreset hole some 10-20 times and putting it to charge there was a little life back some blue lines at the screen.
Now after 5 more hours it starts, but after some resets (some times there is only blue lines) and when it starts it freezez very much...
Should I send it for repairing?
Does the worranty covers it? (I bought it from Internet)
Would reflashing help?
Please advice...
tbh, I would have left it to dry normally in a warm place for 24 hrs before even considering to power it up, as (not 100% certain) I think the hairdryer creates static, which could damage the electronics inside, plus, you can't guarantee that it will have dried it out completely, which means, when you started it up, it could have still been damp in the middle and damaged something.
does it look like it has been water damaged? if not, then your best bet would be to not mention that fact, and just say it has suddenly started being funny, not booting up and freezing alot.
I doubt a reflash will fix it, but it is something for nothing, so worth a shot, however long it is.
*edit* if the company won't replace it, you could try your house insurance...
Thanks alot for the reply wytey,
I think there is something damaged, becouse when I soft reset it after freezing there comes a couple of times a light blue screen with blue and white lines...after soft reseting 3-4 times again it loads normaly again but freezez after 5-10 mins again
I was soo happy with my Jasjar >:'(
Your device has been damaged by water.
This is not covered by warranty.
It might not be covered by any insurrance you might have through your service provider.
You may be able to get it covered under home insurrance.
There isn't a case for a wet PDA. But I've read a recent article of getting back a Linksys router that has been soaked wet by rain water. See the real life experience here
http://www.grynx.com/index.php/projects/salvage-your-device-after-liquid-spill/1/
Probably you can do the same?
I dropped my Wizard in the bath, took out the battery and let it dry for about a day or so. Evrything works just fine.. So you should have dry it for over a day or more to be shure no water is left in it
Very timely.
http://www.lifehacker.com/software/hardware/save-your-electronics-from-spilled-liquid-150085.php
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Thanks for replies guys,
Usefull article, but I think it's too late now, I couldn't take out the battery for 5 mins, then how to open the device and clean the components/circute
Can they prove it if I don't mention water?
Home insurrance would be a big lie, but who cares they get money from me every month (what to say to them? stolen? bropped in water?)
Thanks again for your times guys
I may be wrong , but I beleive there is an "indicator" in most modern equipment that shows up if there has been any water damage
anyone who knows how to repair phones and look at pcb boards etc. will KNOW right away that it has been water damaged. Impossible to hide (unless you yourself are also a technician).
I know because I own a phone repair shop and have been doing repairs for a lot of years.
One of the IC may be damaged, so when your device starts to get warm (as you said 5-10 mins) it cannot hold the power.
Just think yourself lucky that it's only an IC and not a CPU.
E-mail me on [email protected] if you need more help and advice
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anyone who knows how to repair phones and look at pcb boards etc. will KNOW right away that it has been water damaged. Impossible to hide (unless you yourself are also a technician).
I know because I own a phone repair shop and have been doing repairs for a lot of years.
One of the IC may be damaged, so when your device starts to get warm (as you said 5-10 mins) it cannot hold the power.
Just think yourself lucky that it's only an IC and not a CPU.
E-mail me on [email protected] if you need more help and advice
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THanks alot for the info hb328_dtdd
If it's an IC, is it hard to repair it? how much would it cost me?
thanks
I (or whoever you decide to check the device) will have to open the unit up and clean out the residue of water and then do thorough tests first, it may not be an IC problem, even if it is an IC problem it may not actually be broken and will work again after cleaning and sonic waves passed through it.
Depending on which IC is broken and how hard it is to replace it, and also if it has caused any other side effects to the other chips, the repair in theory should not cost too much at all as it does not seem serious (from what I read from your post anyway).
E-mail me with more description of the problem and I will try and give you some tips to get it running, if that fails then you can decide whether to send it away or take it to local engineer to repair.
Hope this helps
the Gadget (Ch 5 UK )show did a piece on stuff getting wet. I htink they all came back to life one way or another but the were left to dry slowly I think for a day or 2. so you could hold out for live in the thing yet?
I hate the fact that Dopod 900 is very slippery, don't you think? I'm looking for a rubber casing like the one for O2 and Ipod.
Dopod 900 enclosure is too slippery, I'm so worry I may drop it too.
I am selling some Pocket PCs and this happened to two of my customers. But the device was an Ipaq 37XX and 38XX.
Both devices I put on a warm place and left there for 4 days. Then after this I powered them up. The Ipaq 37XX had only a bad LCD light, which was flickering sometimes and was not bright. the 38XX worked good again.
Anywasys, you need to check your device and have it cleaned. The biggest problem is the fact that there is so little space between smd mounted chips and the PCB that the water stays in between never drying and makes the metal rust. I had this experience with a cell phone already.
So you can try following:
(1) pay for cleaning and repair
or
(2) try to get it guarantee exchanged, which is also possible as for a pocket pc the technicians normally do not check for water damage. But if you have bad luck, somebody will notice this and you get nothing replaced.
I managed the same thing a while ago with my Xda2, and the symptoms were pretty much the same when it first happened (random lines and 'blotches' across the screen, freezing)..
Without haste, I removed the battery, sd card and mopped up any moisture from inside the battery compartment.. placed it in a warm place in an attempt to evaporate the moisture from the device. I left it for 24 hours before powering the device back up.
It DID work afterwards and I was a bit suprised and relieved at its resilience to liquid.
The important thing is to make sure the board and pins of the chips are not shorted by liquid, if you cannot get to the board, evaporation in a warm place is probably your best bet...Just watch out how you apply heat for the sake of the screen (and possibly the keys on the exec).
I dropped my XDA II into a canal and managed to save it. The problem is the water can't evaporate easily. I took the battery off and put it on a radiator. It took 7 days to finally dry out! It worked ok though.
You probably still have water in yours, so I would recommend putting it on a radiator or somewhere hot and just leaving it. You haven't got anything to lose
After almost 2 days inside the radiator it still has the same freezing/dying problem I thinks something is damaged inside ((( And now I can't find any electronic service in Denmark who can repare it
just because it's dry doesn't mean it fix itself, people often mistake this. Sometimes people get their phones to WORK after it's DRY but little do they know what is really happening inside the phone each time they power it back on and the residue is still there inside the phone lurking in the spaces between the pcb and the chips.
no matter what anyone says, I always tell people the same thing:
YOU MUST GET IT PROFESSIONALLY FIXED
My suggestion and this has never failed me yet.
1. After being dropped in liquid, DO NOT SWITCH ON - This is where most of the real damage will occur. If it is/was switched on remove battery as quickly as possible.
2. Strip down and remove any thing you can do easily, covers, sd card, stylus, sim, battery.
3. Waste a whole aerosol of switch cleaner, squirt it anywhere and everywhere you possibly can, literally fill it up with the stuff so it is pouring out of every hole. Do NOT use WD40, it must be electrical switch cleaner that will leave no residue at all!
4. Allow as much as possible of the switch cleaner to drip out and then allow it to dry, do not force dry with a hair dryer and even a radiator is too harsh. I find airing cupboard where the hot water tank is is the best place.
5. Leave at least 48 hours before putting everything back together and switching on, if it does not work straight away, strip it down again and leave another 24 hours, keep repeating for 7 days.
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=27515&criteria=switch cleaner&doy=29m1
Good luck!

Screen stopped working, then magically fixed itself

Ok weirdest **** ever just happened. Touch HD was working fine, all day, came home, pulled the phone out and the screen wouldnt respond, coudlnt unlock the screen. Looking at the screen carefully, I could see these "swirly marks", looked like water was underneath the screen, or moisture, and i could move it all around, it was all over the screen in small dots.
I was looking for another phone to put my sim in with no luck. Was just sitting here flashing my HD2 and i thought let me try again with the touch HD, and while booting, i noted the "swirly marks" had disappeared, and sure enough, the screen responded!
Any ideas? maybe i should trade it in while its still working!
i used to work in a phone repair shop and ive seen loads of phones that have been dropped in water and then been fine.
i dropped my old kaiser in a glass of milk and it stopped working, so i took it apart and cleaned it all with a small brush and some alcohol. put it back together and it worked fine.
but on the other hand ive seen phones that have been destroyed by simply keeping it in a pocket.
moisture can build up inside the phone because of humidity and the warmth of the phone and your leg etc...
when the phone dries again sometimes the residue of the evaporated liquid is non conductive and harmless and the phone works normally again.
if the phone is powered (most are on, duh) or the residue is conductive it can sometimes cause temporary malfunctions, that can be fixed by 'washing' the phone like i did with my kaiser, or it might have caused permanent hardware damage. then you have to get new parts for it.
so basically you were lucky. try to keep it out of the sauna
oh yeh, just to be safe check all the features of your phone like gps, wifi, camera, etc... try to keep your phone in less humid or cooler places, like your outside pockets on a jacket, and try to keep it somewhere where it can get cool fresh air
ah cheers for that! good timing too since i just replied to another topic with a similiar problem, maybe they can read this too
Maybe the hot weather had something to do with it, i dunno, it was in my jeans pocket!

Dropped phone in water

So i dropped the phone in water. Took it out and dried it and after couple of mins i turned it back on. Goes after the S animation and black screen. Turn off and turn on again, now it wont go after main screen. After i used hair dryer for few minutes.
It was only in water for <2 seconds.
It constantly is restarting the phone and won't go past the i9000 screen. Am i screwed? Anything i can do to get warranty or no?
Ny friend put his phone in uncoocked rice for a while and that helped his phone, otherwise when did you get the phone? What carrier?
sent from my rooted captivate
I won it off a contest bell had. Have all papers. Got it in september and got warranty left. Never modded, except unlocked but i believe i can put lock back on
also as soon as i put battery, it turns on. in the event of repair, what do i say to samsung?
1. You shouldn't have turned on the device until you're sure that it's dry internally
2. Moisture indicators are likely to indicate that your device has been in contact with water. Samsung may deny the warranty or give some courtesy by closing an eye. Depends on your luck.
3. You may attempt to continue drying it and prays that it functions again
4. Perhaps try entering bootloader/download mode and reflash?
I dissemble it completely. Now one thing i need to fix is the side grill (silver strip) can't seem to put it back on..
ok sweet, it was able to boot further. I will be putting it back inside rice but any help with the side strip?
Also that big black thing is kind of lose (top right). Supposed to be like that?
ok, really weird issue
At first it worked fine, after i managed to put the strip on, i turn on and see blueish screen and everything is fine except graphics looks like 98 with blueish screen on top!
There are plenty of advises on the web if you Google for your subject. The most interesting ones are to place the phone without battery into rice for a week ot so, the other one is to place the phone without battery in refrigerator, well, all of them say to NOT TURN ON YOUR PHONE at least for 4 - 5 days if not more. However, I had this problem with my previous device and now it is working like a gameboy with no radio. My home insurance payed me for this, so if you have home insurance, be prepared to claim.
EDIT : the moment problem has happened you must pull battery out and place it as far as possible from your phone for a few days.
Sent from my GT-I9000
so what do i do now???
Any way i can claim warranty - as in do something to the cell etc?
The blueish screen = nothing on internet can be found
Also its impossible for me to lock back the phone
Turn your phone off, remove battery throw it into a dehumidifier for a day. Don't touch it. The more you turn it on the more likely something will short circuit and permanently damage your phone.
Most warranties do not cover water damage and there is nothing you can do about that.
If you have insurence my advise report it lost and claim replacement i insured my sgs against everything i already replaced it once from killing it flashing it but i am covered for water and accidental
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Most devices have a moisture detector for if you ever drop it into water, voiding your warranty.
bad move turning it on worst thing anyone can do.
If your in blackpool, uk i can look at it for you.
best thing to do if this happens to anyone is.
take battery out.
put phone in a sealed pub of rice.
leave for 2 weeks and pray.
never ever turn it on after liquid thats when the damage happens
Grim, just grim!
oh boy :-(
thanks for the tip with the rice, good to know just in case..
Sorry for reviving this thread.
I too got the phone wet. I put it through a blower dryer and in a bag of rice.
the screen is fine no discolorations and it booted right up,but crashes on the desktop. i restart it and it stays at the galaxy s2 screen. i can enter recovery and so on, but i don't want to restore if i have too.
What should I do?
velvetmxo said:
Sorry for reviving this thread.
I too got the phone wet. I put it through a blower dryer and in a bag of rice.
the screen is fine no discolorations and it booted right up,but crashes on the desktop. i restart it and it stays at the galaxy s2 screen. i can enter recovery and so on, but i don't want to restore if i have too.
What should I do?
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A crash at the desktop would normally indicate a software problem, but it is highly unlikely that the water had caused damages to the software. Rather, the water probably damaged the processors necessary to run the software. You can enter recovery mode probably because recovery mode does not require the full power of the processors.
So I think if there is any hope of saving your phone at all, you should reflash the firmware from recovery mode.
Do a nandroid backup, reflash and see if it was problem with ROM.
Sent from far, far away GalaxyS
lukaszD. said:
Do a nandroid backup, reflash and see if it was problem with ROM.
Sent from far, far away GalaxyS
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i attempted a nandroid (I already have a saved nandroid) but wanted to backup this one since i'm not sure it sync some of the contacts.
when attempting the nandroid i got an error during thee backp portion of the data.
does that mean i should just recover from my original backup?

DVP sudden weird behaviour

Hi,
I have a DVP 16 GB. It's been 1 year. A few days back it got wet in the rain. When I took it out of my leather case, the back button and search button lights were on and the camera was continuously blinking. I took apart everything and dried it in a bowl of uncooked rice. After that, it was working fine. No problems. Then suddenly from yesterday, it has started to act very weirdly. Whenever I switch it on, it works for a few seconds and then freezes. If I lock it, it freezes. But it remains switched on. The touch just doesn't seem to work. I have even hard reset it but to no avail.
At times, it works, i.e., after a few shut downs and reboots, but very slowly. The touch takes ages to respond. Please help.
cheerfulari said:
Hi,
I have a DVP 16 GB. It's been 1 year. A few days back it got wet in the rain. When I took it out of my leather case, the back button and search button lights were on and the camera was continuously blinking. I took apart everything and dried it in a bowl of uncooked rice. After that, it was working fine. No problems. Then suddenly from yesterday, it has started to act very weirdly. Whenever I switch it on, it works for a few seconds and then freezes. If I lock it, it freezes. But it remains switched on. The touch just doesn't seem to work. I have even hard reset it but to no avail.
At times, it works, i.e., after a few shut downs and reboots, but very slowly. The touch takes ages to respond. Please help.
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Sorry can't really help man. But what it's worth, I haven't read anything like that appearing on the DVP, so it might not be a usual failure on this phone and rather related to the swim it took? If you grab a parts DVP off ebay, maybe you can swap parts until you isolate the prob... at least you might be able to find a cracked screen phone and place your screen on that puppy? Good luck. Phone probs suck :crying:
aleunge said:
Sorry can't really help man. But what it's worth, I haven't read anything like that appearing on the DVP, so it might not be a usual failure on this phone and rather related to the swim it took? If you grab a parts DVP off ebay, maybe you can swap parts until you isolate the prob... at least you might be able to find a cracked screen phone and place your screen on that puppy? Good luck. Phone probs suck :crying:
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I got a touch screen, took it to a shop, got it replaced and it still is dead.The shop person told that the touchscreen strip is faulty. That needs to be replaced. Any idea on where I might get it?
cheerfulari said:
I got a touch screen, took it to a shop, got it replaced and it still is dead.The shop person told that the touchscreen strip is faulty. That needs to be replaced. Any idea on where I might get it?
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Can anyone tell if it is the problem with the whole strip or just the ic?:fingers-crossed:

Water Damage: Screen not working

Hi all,
last week we had a really heavy rain and I was outside. As a precaution I put my phone out of my front pocket into my backpack only to realize that the backpack was filled with water when I came home.
The phone was swimming in water but still on and working but I had no equipment to open up the phone (damn T3) so I had to leave it powered on and put it in rice over night.
The next day when I tried to boot the phone the screen stayed off and you could see the liquid between the lcd and the digitizer.
I went to a local repair shop and they opened up the phone. I let it dry for some more days but the problem with the display remains.
I washed out the mainboards with iso and cleaned all corrosion I could see with a toothbrush but after replacing the screen it looks like the issue remains.
The phone makes sounds like it is working and giving notifications but the screen is just dead.
Do you have another Idead what I could do or do I need a new phone?
Thanks
crckmc
I am in the exact same boat (almost literally)
I dropped mine into the toilet (how cliche) and it also worked for a few minutes, then eventually the screen went black. I see nobody responded to you here, may I ask what have you ended up doing with it? Replace screen? Get a new phone?

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