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Hi,
I have a myTouch and an HTC Magic. For some reason, the myTouch weighs more.
It's not huge on paper. 114 vs 120, but it makes a noticeable difference in the hand.
Shouldn't they be the same, except for the additional ram on the Magic?
perhaps the sheer stupidity necessary to offer a tmobile version of the magic with only 2/3 of the ram is whats weighing down the disappointing device (no im not bitter...anybody want to buy a week-old mytouch? please?)
DMaverick50 said:
perhaps the sheer stupidity necessary to offer a tmobile version of the magic with only 2/3 of the ram is whats weighing down the disappointing device (no im not bitter...anybody want to buy a week-old mytouch? please?)
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I think the rom memory was the big thing and they at least addressed that.
On the bright side, the mytouch comes in a much spiffier packaging.
I think you'll find that it's the 32A which is heavier, not the 32b..
I don't know exactly why, but I know what you mean... the 32a is noticeably heavier
CatalystNZ said:
I think you'll find that it's the 32A which is heavier, not the 32b..
I don't know exactly why, but I know what you mean... the 32a is noticeably heavier
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No,
My Rogers HTC Magic is about 6 grams lighter than my T-Mobile myTouch.
I guess this may not be the case for all 32As.
Do you have a scale?
have you weighted without batteries, to check if difference comes from it ?
first of all, sorry if i'm posting something that has been discussed before. the search function didn't prop anything useful, and as you can see i am a user of this forum.
if this has already been discussed, please give me a link of the topic.
my obvious question is if it is worth it to buy the diamond2 instead of putting its software on the original diamond. besides that, how is the better hardware working ? especially the gps chip ? same problems ?
any thoughts are much appreciated. thanks
What can I say... Diamond 2 is better on every aspect compared to the Diamond. I still got my old Diamond and I just started it up and it felt so bad using it if I compare to the D2.
To sum up everything: D2 is BETTER.
it would be strange to be otherwise. I mean, it's Diamond 2 sooo, tehnically, it comes as an upgrade. It would be strange to be a worse phone. Diamond 2 comes with some solutions to problems in D1.
The GPS is okay, after you have downloaded quickGPS, the connection is within seconds (4-5). I'd use iGo with GPS, it's great. Audio is good, many features. Any more questions? Cheers!!!
I had the Diamond for some days and I hated it. The screen is to small for such a device for my POW. The design is also ugly compared to TD2 (my pow again). I actually only got the TD2 because it was cheap and my plan was to sell it again. But I ended up keeping it. I think it's a great phone but battery life could be better.. GPS is working flawlessly tomtom with no probs what so ever
I used the Diamond for over a year.. it was a great phone however it always felt slightly slow, now on the diamond 2 (which i have now) the specs are very similar however the phone feels much much better!
On the diamond I was flashing roms every couple of days, never satisfied.
On the diamond 2 im sitting on the stock rom!!! ..go figure! Fantastic phone.
There was a dust under the screen issue with D2. Any of you owners still experience it or did HTC correct the problem?
loriolus said:
There was a dust under the screen issue with D2. Any of you owners still experience it or did HTC correct the problem?
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I have not experienced any dust under my screen yet.
u can find pretty nice overview of both over here: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=2368&idPhone2=2689
btw d2 ownz))im just so happy for it...
Diamond 2 is much better than Diamond in every aspect. But HTC has announced lots of new phones, Touch Pro 2, HD 2. These are all the nice device comparing with Diamond 2. And the HTC LEO will be announced soon. I believe it'll be a great device.
HTC LEO is one gigantic device. I love what it can do but you need a breefcase to carry it around....might as well just carry a netbook.
loriolus said:
HTC LEO is one gigantic device. I love what it can do but you need a breefcase to carry it around....might as well just carry a netbook.
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Yeah, HTC announces phones larger and larger. At first HD is large enough and a little bit larger for porket. Now they announced LEO.....Anyway if the phone is really top device, the size doesn't matter.
I switched from the diamond to the diamond2, and until now i regret it!
Maybe technically the d2's pecs are far more better than the original, but i've had a lot of problems with it. Freezes a lot of times (T-mobile stock rom), and the promised improved battery life is still bad (charge every 3 days, with normal use).
The worst part are the look and feel of the td2. Compared to the original i now have a brick in my pocket, the original was so much slimmer than this one! The t-mobile design is that bad that i can't use any car kit because t-moile decided to use a cap in front of the usb-port.
thanks for the replies guys. especially yours hellboy1970. it was clear that the d2 would be better than the d1 in the usual aspects - hardware, battery life, minor fixes, etc. but what i was asking was if it is actually worth it switching .. i mean, the differences between a customized diamond with all the apps and roms and all that and a, so far, stock d2.
of course the d2 will eventually receive more interest than the d1, and i'll switch too by that time, but right now, money wise and all that.
anyway, thanks. i'm thinking of keeping my d1 until d2 lowers its price a bit
Diamond 1 it's a joke compared to D2...
I just flashed the D2 ROM (AZTOR) to my D1 and i'm really fascinated about what a software can do with a device. First i had O2 SW, then some custom ROMs, then original HTC and now this D2 Rom. It's ingenious.
I see the only real disadvantage of the D1 in the "small" display.
I don't care about my GPS taking 3 mins to find a satellite - i usually know at least the direction where i want to go.
So in my eyes, the D2 is a good and certainly better device, but if you own a D1 it's just not worth switching.
hellboy1970 said:
The t-mobile design is that bad that i can't use any car kit because t-mobile decided to use a cap in front of the usb-port.
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No problem. With frequent use, I am sure it will break off and the T-Mobile will be just like the HTC
Is it possible that the leaked images of the Bravo were infact not final and the Bravo is actually the Nexus One?
According to Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Android_devices
The HTC Bravo (passion in Europe) is set to be released in the US in January (where it could be the Nexus One) and Europe in April.
The specs are almost completely identical (If the "bravo" is not a final model, it's possible the specs had changed by the time the final model was finalised). They look almost identical apart from the Nexus One having touchkeys and the bravo having hardkeys for Home/Menu etc.
It also wouldn't be new for a phone to have different specs in different regions. The HTC Magic in Europe having a 3.2 Megapixel Camera and the T-Mobile Mytouch 3g in the US, The same model, having a 5 Megapixel Camera.
Furthermore the Wikipedia release dates correspond with the Google Store ones.
Nexus one avaliable in the US in January
HTC Passion/Bravo avaliable in Europe in April - This meets the Nexus One's "Spring" Europe release date.
yes the htc passion/bravo is the nexus one. Nexus one is the google name.
Yep, this baby had more names than cats have lives
its just proof its an htc phone lol
No one knows. The "thing" that has snapdragon, android and sense ui has not been announced. We all have to assume it is coming and a lot of us are waiting for this "thing". Is the Bravo it? Not if it's the N1.
same phone except that if yours says Bravo you get everything N1 +Sense
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same phone except that if yours says Bravo you get everything N1 +Sense
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Beat me to it.
The Bravo will be to the N1 what the Hero was to the Magic 32a. Bravo will get Sense on top of all of it's Android 2.1. Moot point if you own a N1 because N1's are hardware unlocked (as I was told by a Google employee, the bootloader is locked, but it's easily unlocked by an informed user), that means we can get a Bravo dump and toss it on the N1 with no problem (same hardware). On the other hand, though, the Bravo will possibly come with a release bootloader instead of an engineering bootloader like the N1, so changing it will probably be harder (think Hero). Not saying it's not possible, maybe even the N1 bootloader will work on the Bravo, who knows.
But wasn't the Bravo meant to have 720p HD video recording and Divx playback? The N1 only records in D1 resolution and doesn't support Divx afaik.
Bravo will be a different device. Can't you all tell from the leaked t-mobile brochures that the design is not the same, plus it has an optical method of control vs the trackball.
Here is the Bravo again. Looks completely different: http://ai.rs/2009/12/htc-bravo/
2 possibilities:
1. Nexus One = final name with codename Passion, much like sapphire for htc magic
2. Nexus one is vanila android, Passion is same hardware with sense
Bravo completely different phone with similar hardware specs running sense ui
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Bravo will be a different device. Can't you all tell from the leaked t-mobile brochures that the design is not the same, plus it has an optical method of control vs the trackball.
Here is the Bravo again. Looks completely different: http://ai.rs/2009/12/htc-bravo/
2 possibilities:
1. Nexus One = final name with codename Passion, much like sapphire for htc magic
2. Nexus one is vanila android, Passion is same hardware with sense
Bravo completely different phone with similar hardware specs running sense ui
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Hope you're right. Never liked the trackball. Seems the lack of trackball allows for the Bravo to be slightly shorter too. Another plus for the Bravo are the physical buttons instead of touch buttons that you can accidentaly press when just pressing the screen.
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Hope you're right. Never liked the trackball. Seems the lack of trackball allows for the Bravo to be slightly shorter too. Another plus for the Bravo are the physical buttons instead of touch buttons that you can accidentaly press when just pressing the screen.
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Actually, the trackball is quite pleasant to use (has great feedback, and also obviously doubles as notification light), much more so than the one on my htc magic. Also, to me those hardware buttons seem a bit of waste, if only they still kept the hardware call/hang up buttons then it would have been more attractive over nexus one.
Bravo will also no doubt come with sense ui. Meaning waiting half a year more for updates after vanila android (if hero is any indication).
does it really matter? you dont need to use the track ball anyway, and it doesnt take up that much space, so its nice to have if you do want to use it at times, AND it also serves as a notification light.
This is an HTC phone, and like almost all HTC phones, trackballs and multiple names come standard.
Optical trackball is great....but can you press it ? It looks flush with the device. No point of a trackball if its not clickable.
its not flush with the device and yes it is pressable.
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its not flush with the device and yes it is pressable.
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Are you sure it is an optical trackball? I was under the impression it was an optical reader (like at the bottom of laser mice) which would not make it pressable.
I beleive the upcoming legend has this too but correct me if i'm wrong
im sure... seing as how I have the phone in my hands right now. Its not optical its a regular trackball same as the one in the MT3G (slightly smaller)
melterx12 said:
im sure... seing as how I have the phone in my hands right now. Its not optical its a regular trackball same as the one in the MT3G (slightly smaller)
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Sorry, i was referring to the HTC Bravo rather than the Nexus One.
http://ai.rs/2009/12/htc-bravo/
if base on this, its ram is 320mb..
and from the leak slides of HTC bravo, i remember seeing the ram @ 256mb.
Thats the reason why i got the nexus one instead..
There's not much official from HTC on the Bravo but this here is an official htc site with MMS profiles for the Bravo and NexusOne separately.
The main differences is that the Bravo supports codecs like high def H.264 among others that the Nexus does not but it is clear evidence that they are indeed two separate phones (for those who were still uncertain).
http://www.htcmms.com.tw/Android/Common/Bravo/ua-profile.xml
http://www.htcmms.com.tw/Android/Common/NexusOne/ua-profile.xml
Hmmm
I did not know ..
Does anyone know if n1 has FM radio
There's a lot of discussion regarding HTC Desire and Nexus One. We get so many arguments. For me, what matters is the hardware. A lot of us, including cyanogen, predict that the two will share ROMs.
I know other factors, like price, matter. If you want to discuss those, please start another thread. This discussion is limited to HTC Desire's and Nexus One's *hardware*. Let's discuss here the specs, buttons, aesthetics, etc.
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Hardware differences that we established so far (HTC Desire vs. Nexus One):
Physical buttons vs. Capacitive buttons
Optical Trackpad vs. Trackball
576 MB RAM vs. 512 MB RAM
No noise-canceling mic vs. W/ noise-canceling mic
Chin vs. No Chin
135 grams w/ battery vs. 130 g w/ battery
(H x W x D) 119 x 60 x 11.9 mm vs. 119 mm x 59.8 mm x 11.5 mm
non-engrave-able back vs. engrave-able back
no docking pins vs. w/ docking pins
Wireless Band Differences
Aesthetic Differences
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And it's true! The battle is just hardware because the Desire ROM runs on the Nexus One. We may even be experiencing all the Desire's software goodness before the Desire hits the stores
Only hard buttons , desire is confirmed not to have hd record it is now like nexus one
The main differences I can see between the two phone are:
Nexus one have 2 mics, while the desire only have one.
Nexus one have touch buttom, while desire have physical key.
sense ui or not...
i think that's the only differences i can see...
anthro said:
There's a lot of discussion regarding HTC Desire and Nexus One. We get so many arguments. For me, what matters is the hardware. A lot of us, including cyanogen, predict that the two will share ROMs.
I know other factors, like price, matter. If you want to discuss those, please start another thread. This discussion is limited to HTC Desire's and Nexus One's *hardware*. Let's discuss here the specs, buttons, aesthetics, etc.
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Lets hope they share ROMs!
It does seem hardware wise they are the same.
joshyth1012 said:
The main differences I can see between the two phone are:
Nexus one have 2 mics, while the desire only have one.
Nexus one have touch buttom, while desire have physical key.
sense ui or not...
i think that's the only differences i can see...
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And Desire has 64 bit more RAM and has FM radio. I think, that's pretty much it, plus aesthetics, which is a personal preference issue.
What else do you think?
Nexus has docking pins at the bottom whereas the Desire doesn't.
stuff
and 64mb of extra RAM on the Desire.
there is no voice search on the Desire (but i guess thats software)
Desire has FM radio
Nexus has a engrave-able back (which is awesome).
nexus one looks nicer
the touch buttons arent a problem on the nexus. (they're designed so that u touch them with your whole thumb not just the nail part)
AND THATS PRETTY MUCH IT!!
also whats the deal with everyone upsesing about sense UI? i mean android stock can also add live widgets and **** like twitter facbeook and flickr.and now that the nexus has mulitouch, the obvious choice is the nexus!
and no im not being biased, i currently have a Nokia N95 8GB, but love reading about new tech
Nexus One has an FM radio chip, it might be capable of working with a software tweak.
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Nexus One has an FM radio chip, it might be capable of working with a software tweak.
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You're right! http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/nexus-one-teardown-reveals-possible-802-11n-radio-and-fm-transmi/
Okay so FM, apparently, is a software thing. But wait.. endgadget says FM *transmitter*. How about receiver?
It's compatible with AT&T 3G from what I read at Modaco
If I'm not mistaken, don't both phones have the same (576mb) amount of ram?
NVM. I thought I saw the N1 had 576 somewhere, but Google officially states 512.
to my eye, the physical design of the nexus one looks smaller and sleeker. i like the sense ui better though in terms of color and navigation although both could be improved and could learn a few tricks from each other.
why does the nexus one have a white status bar for example? im glad our custom themes can fix this, but it should come black from the factory.
i like the overall look of the htc desire, that utilitarian look and feel. i also wish the nexus had a optical track pad instead of the ball. that ball just never felt solid to me.
i dont like the look of chrome though, but i guess its okay since it only on one part of the desire.
fm transmitter is useless without the proper drivers. who knows when well get those. or make them?
It's right. The battle is just hardware. The Desire ROM runs on Nexus One http://android.modaco.com/content/g...sire-rom-on-the-nexus-one-my-findings-so-far/
Isnt it possible that a different split could change the data partition enough to fit the rom on the nexus
anyone pulled flash 10.1 from it yet ?
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Okay so FM, apparently, is a software thing. But wait.. endgadget says FM *transmitter*. How about receiver?
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According to the article, the N1's Broadcom chip also has FM transmit & receive capabilities.
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Of interest is a Broadcom chip labeled Broadcom BCM4329EKUBG. Why? Well, the BCM4329 (albeit, without the "EKUBG" qualifier) is capable of 802.11n (HTC only lists 802.11b/g) WiFi in addition to FM transmitter and receiver.
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Well I found the main differrence is regarding to those keypad.Well the memory is also considerable..As per my thoughts I prefer Nexus one..All latest features.Well All of those functionality and software are work so nicely with android..Please share your thoughts for it.Thank you so much in advance for your support and suggestions...
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anyone pulled flash 10.1 from it yet ?
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I'm under the impression its either "ready" for 10.1 or else currently has an older version. I don't remember which but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have flash 10.1 which a couple weeks ago adobe said still needed a lot of work. Hopefully I'm wrong but that's software so I apologize
Also, desire has more ram but will it also not use it properly like tithe nexus? After having a g1 and mytouch 3g I was super pumped about all of the n1's ram but it doesnt even use it...
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I'm under the impression its either "ready" for 10.1 or else currently has an older version. I don't remember which but I'm pretty sure it doesn't have flash 10.1 which a couple weeks ago adobe said still needed a lot of work. Hopefully I'm wrong but that's software so I apologize
Also, desire has more ram but will it also not use it properly like tithe nexus? After having a g1 and mytouch 3g I was super pumped about all of the n1's ram but it doesnt even use it...
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There is currently a RAM hack that allows rooted N1 users to use more of their RAM - I also believe there is a 10mb RAM hack for G1 users to allow them to use 10 more mbs of RAM, but in turn lowers 3D processing.
If you've been reading around, you'd know that on the Desire ROM for the N1 that Flash 10.1 is working perfectly.
How about the screen? I know one major complaint by some about the nexus is the fact that it's only "dual-touch" compatible. Does the Desire use the same screen?
look at this http://www.htc.com/cn/product/tienxi/specification.html a chinees hd2
its a chinese model, no doubt.
but it does NOT seem to be a variant of the LEO. it seems to have different dimensions, a different button layout and the buttons seem capacitive, bigger battery, and most importantly, it has an 800MHz processor, doesn't seem to be a snapdragon.
however, its nice to see a new(er) WM6.5 model from HTC...maybe its ROM can be ripped for some updated HTC apps?
has also less ram
did notice it today on engadget..but who matters...love my hd2 lol
DN41
its got a kick stand?!?!?
http://www.htc.com/uploadedImages/CN/Product/T9188/image4.jpg
What it that thing in the top right? With the three? Carrier branding?
Edit: NVM, if you look on the back of the phone it's definitely carrier branding.