Why does 32B weight more? - myTouch 3G, Magic General

Hi,
I have a myTouch and an HTC Magic. For some reason, the myTouch weighs more.
It's not huge on paper. 114 vs 120, but it makes a noticeable difference in the hand.
Shouldn't they be the same, except for the additional ram on the Magic?

perhaps the sheer stupidity necessary to offer a tmobile version of the magic with only 2/3 of the ram is whats weighing down the disappointing device (no im not bitter...anybody want to buy a week-old mytouch? please?)

DMaverick50 said:
perhaps the sheer stupidity necessary to offer a tmobile version of the magic with only 2/3 of the ram is whats weighing down the disappointing device (no im not bitter...anybody want to buy a week-old mytouch? please?)
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I think the rom memory was the big thing and they at least addressed that.
On the bright side, the mytouch comes in a much spiffier packaging.

I think you'll find that it's the 32A which is heavier, not the 32b..
I don't know exactly why, but I know what you mean... the 32a is noticeably heavier

CatalystNZ said:
I think you'll find that it's the 32A which is heavier, not the 32b..
I don't know exactly why, but I know what you mean... the 32a is noticeably heavier
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No,
My Rogers HTC Magic is about 6 grams lighter than my T-Mobile myTouch.
I guess this may not be the case for all 32As.
Do you have a scale?

have you weighted without batteries, to check if difference comes from it ?

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Going from G1 to Mytouch?

Ok, so i have the G1 now. I was wondering if i upgrade too the mytouch whats the main differences? does it have a faster processor? more ram etc.
also what is the deal with 32a/b boards? wat is this and how do i tell which im getting when i buy one? whats difference? thanks in advance?
bobzoz said:
Ok, so i have the G1 now. I was wondering if i upgrade too the mytouch whats the main differences? does it have a faster processor? more ram etc.
also what is the deal with 32a/b boards? wat is this and how do i tell which im getting when i buy one? whats difference? thanks in advance?
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I transitioned well coming from the G1 thanks in part of the HTC_IME keyboard I used(never really used the hard keys anymore) I just wanted a more lighter phone and battery life is sure is better than the G1 on stock batts compared to upgrading to an aftermarket one. Proc is the same but you get more ram and rom.
All myTouches Boards are 32B main diff IMO is the ram, you get more from the 32A.
But when comparing to Cyanogen's Roms on the G1 and stock myTouch there is only a very very slight improvement on the myTouch in opening apps so I can just imagine if I have root.
An advice I give my friends if they want to upgrade is that if they are sure they can use a phone without hard keyboard and a lengthy process to root for now.
I went from a G1 to a MyTouch and so did my girlfriend. We are both really frustrated with the virtual keyboard. Not only is it really laggy after installing about 20 apps, but you have to get used to the fact that it's going to obstruct the view of webpages, chats, and whatever else you want to view when typing. The lag is especially bad if you are receiving a text or chat, or your phone is syncing while typing.
The other downside is that there is absolutely no improvement in the processor. So, all of the crappy lag that you had on a stock G1 is going to be on the MT as well.
That being said, the improved battery is incredible. Its a lot sleeker and lighter and sexier. Oh and the speaker is a bit louder. Yet, with all the frustration, (sometimes, I seriously want to throw it) I am having a hard time deciding to give it up. I think I will just root and unlock it and sell it on eBay or something. We'll see if the potential money will make it worth selling. Really, it all depends on whether or not the HERO ROMs run any better.
EDIT: @crxtasi can you post a link to that HTC_IME.apk? That could be just what I need!
lbingham said:
I went from a G1 to a MyTouch and so did my girlfriend. We are both really frustrated with the virtual keyboard. Not only is it really laggy after installing about 20 apps, but you have to get used to the fact that it's going to obstruct the view of webpages, chats, and whatever else you want to view when typing. The lag is especially bad if you are receiving a text or chat, or your phone is syncing while typing.
The other downside is that there is absolutely no improvement in the processor. So, all of the crappy lag that you had on a stock G1 is going to be on the MT as well.
That being said, the improved battery is incredible. Its a lot sleeker and lighter and sexier. Oh and the speaker is a bit louder. Yet, with all the frustration, (sometimes, I seriously want to throw it) I am having a hard time deciding to give it up. I think I will just root and unlock it and sell it on eBay or something. We'll see if the potential money will make it worth selling. Really, it all depends on whether or not the HERO ROMs run any better.
EDIT: @crxtasi can you post a link to that HTC_IME.apk? That could be just what I need!
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well i went from a dream to magic 32A
the 96mb of ram really makes a difference in hero roms..
apps are smoother too..
never needed the keyboard and wanted a lighter phone..so far happy with my purchase
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EDIT: @crxtasi can you post a link to that HTC_IME.apk? That could be just what I need!
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check out my sig for the link. but yeah the google keyboard sucks ass that's why Im really happy that even without root I got it on my MT but you will still need to go thru all the things you said about half the screen being the VK but I've lived to adjust to it ever since my G1.
on the other hand if you wanna get rid of it let me know
I made the change & it was absolutely no problem for me.. But I had also switched to using the HTC keyboard on my g1 so I Wasn't using the hard keyboard much if at all.. Ultimately the upgrade is technically not an upgrade.. Its a downgrade.. You get nothing new, but you loose the hard keyboard..
That being said I Would not go back to my g1 from my mytouch either.. I Did the sleeker form factor & how much better it fits in my pocket now.. Also the battery life is WAY better.. Both have there advantages & both are excellent phones.. Just a matter of your preference on typing & Since I prefer the Compact Qwerty method since I had my old touch diamond it was a no brainier change for me..
so it does have more ram? 96mb vs. how much does g1 have?
thanks for all the quick and helpful responses guys
bobzoz said:
so it does have more ram? 96mb vs. how much does g1 have?
thanks for all the quick and helpful responses guys
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ram is the same
oh damn. well i still think ill pick one off ebay too check it out. g1 is pretty bulky. thanks again for help everyone.

G1 or G2?

What I like of G1: QWERT keyboard.
What I like of G2: 288MB RAM
Does the bigger RAM offer a bigger performance promotion? Someone said the 288MB RAM makes G2 more stable and faster than G1.
What is your opinion,my buddies,which one is better?
depends what you like, my G1 is stable and fast with my current rom, a stock magic feels a bit faster as a stock dream IMO, but i'd never give away my keyboard :O
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but i'd never give away my keyboard :O
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I just can't used to the G1 or G2 screen, I am a long time Windows Mobile PPC fan and like my fingernail a lot
So a QWERT keyboard will be better, but don't know the performance of G2, I think the performance is more important during the long run.
camus_dvd said:
What I like of G1: QWERT keyboard.
What I like of G2: 288MB RAM
Does the bigger RAM offer a bigger performance promotion? Someone said the 288MB RAM makes G2 more stable and faster than G1.
What is your opinion,my buddies,which one is better?
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when u say g2.... what are u referring to..
the only phone that is officially called the g2 is the g2 touch(aka htc hero) for tmobile UK
Most likely he's talking about MT3g. I love the G1. I can't see myself without a physical keyboard. Depends on what you are going to do with the phone. Heavy on texts and emails and the such, like me, qwerty keyboard FTW.
I'm waiting for the real G2 for TMO. Hopefully something fresh, with a qwerty and more ram (plus a flash would be nice) will comeout next year.
I own both running the same rom, there no real noticeable difference in speed and performance between the two, except battery life. The MT3G has excellent battery life on the stock battery. My G1 has to use the fat extended life batt to get me through the day, which makes the phone thick and has that "brick look". I also prefer the MT3G cause its thinner and nicer looking. I use taskiller on both phones to keep the RAM free.
brian_v3ntura said:
when u say g2.... what are u referring to..
the only phone that is officially called the g2 is the g2 touch(aka htc hero) for tmobile UK
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haha,What I mean G2 is Sapphire.
as I know, HTC G2 get 288MB RAM, but the vodofone edition G2 get only 192MB RAM as same as G1.
Ssantos6981 said:
I'm waiting for the real G2 for TMO. Hopefully something fresh, with a qwerty and more ram (plus a flash would be nice) will comeout next year.
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Yes, that's what HTC owe us
phatmanxxl said:
I own both running the same rom, there no real noticeable difference in speed and performance between the two, except battery life.
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So, Do you mean that the RAM issus is not a issus?
phatmanxxl said:
I own both running the same rom, there no real noticeable difference in speed and performance between the two, except battery life. The MT3G has excellent battery life on the stock battery. My G1 has to use the fat extended life batt to get me through the day, which makes the phone thick and has that "brick look". I also prefer the MT3G cause its thinner and nicer looking. I use taskiller on both phones to keep the RAM free.
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just to let you know.. the mytouch is not a g2 plus the mytouch has same ram specs as the g1. just double the internal memory
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haha,What I mean G2 is Sapphire.
as I know, HTC G2 get 288MB RAM, but the vodofone edition G2 get only 192MB RAM as same as G1.
Yes, that's what HTC owe us
So, Do you mean that the RAM issus is not a issus?
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ok i will break it down for everyone
g2 touch is the only phone officially called the g2..
its tmobile UK branded htc hero
it has 512 ROM(internal mem)
and 288mb RAM
5mp cam
3.5mm headphone jack
the unlocked htc magic and rogers branded magic :
use the 32a board
512mb of ROM
288mb of RAM
3.2mp cam
the tmobile US mytouch 3g and vodaphone branded magic:
use the 32b board
192mb RAM
512mb of ROM
3.2mp cam
the tmobile g1 and htc dream
basically the same phone except one is unlocked and one is sim locked.
192mb RAM
256mb ROM
3.2mp cam
more RAM does help the phone run faster,and smoother. but also make sure not too many apps are running in the background.
brian_v3ntura said:
ok i will break it down for everyone
more RAM does help the phone run faster,and smoother. but also make sure not too many apps are running in the background.
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Thanks, brian_v3ntura, it really helps
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Thanks, brian_v3ntura, it really helps
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i recommend using some kind of task manager. this wil really help free up RAM being used by applications that you dont want running in the background.
i use task panel... it doesnt run i the backgound like some other task managers,and it shows how much ram is actually free.

What is the next phone?

G1 is starting to show it's age and we've had the superior Hero for awhile and now the DROID is out and even better than Hero. The problem is, they are for other carriers.
Tmobil just cam out with the Motorola CLIQ but it doesn't seem to be even as good as the Hero and definitely not as good as the DROID.
Are there any rumors of a worthwhile upgrade coming to Tmobile?
Sony Xperia X10 hopefully.
The Samsung Behold II is coming to T-Mobile, I don't know much about the phone, but that's something you can look into and decide for yourself.
Pinesal said:
DROID is out and even better than Hero.
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Excuse me but the hero is actually superior to them all I thought I should correct your error mate.the only reason its slow is because HTC is using slow hardware that can't keep up with such elegance and beauty.the droid uses 1.6 while heroes use 1.5 so comparison isn't fair...
Good day to you all..
Carloswithac said:
Sony Xperia X10 hopefully.
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christ, i can't wait for this phone.
Here's a video for those of you who haven't seen it yet...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiZ2DBN6zCM
I'm only hoping there next contender will also have a 5 row qwerty keyboard, im not much of a onscreen typer and hopefully running snapdragon.
Ace42 said:
Excuse me but the hero is actually superior to them all I thought I should correct your error mate.the only reason its slow is because HTC is using slow hardware that can't keep up with such elegance and beauty.the stood uses 1.6 while heroes yes 1.5 so comparison isn't fair.
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Today kiddies we're going to learn about the difference between "fact" and "opinion".. Christ!
AdrianK said:
Today kiddies we're going to learn about the difference between "fact" and "opinion".. Christ!
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im assuming you cant tell i was being sarcastic when i was talking about elegance and beauty
Ace42 said:
im assuming you cant tell i was being sarcastic when i was talking about elegance and beauty
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lol, apparently not I hate Sense UI, it's a resource hog that looks pretty but doesn't do anything useful. I'd rather just have a faster phone than that bogged-down UI.
i hope they make an actual G2, like 5 row keyboard 1ghz proc. capacitive touchscreen trackball with light , LED light ambient light sensor ,3-8000MP cam, 512 mb ram
pretty much a G1 with an upgrade =]
roguestatuskat said:
i hope they make an actual G2, like 5 row keyboard 1ghz proc. capacitive touchscreen trackball with light , LED light ambient light sensor ,3-8000MP cam, 512 mb ram
pretty much a G1 with an upgrade =]
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... WOW, you want a light emitting diode light ambient light sensor? I hope there was supposed to be a comma there. And I have never seen anything with 8000MP camera. Maybe the hubble LOL. somehow that is supposed to take pictures with just 512MB ram.. and a 64GB SD Card?
AdrianK said:
lol, apparently not I hate Sense UI, it's a resource hog that looks pretty but doesn't do anything useful. I'd rather just have a faster phone than that bogged-down UI.
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thats kinda true i only get about 30-ram avail on a hero rom
on a xrom or something i would have alot more available.
neoobs said:
... WOW, you want a light emitting diode light ambient light sensor? I hope there was supposed to be a comma there. And I have never seen anything with 8000MP camera. Maybe the hubble LOL. somehow that is supposed to take pictures with just 512MB ram.. and a 64GB SD Card?
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yeahh there was, but pretty much what i mean is just an upgraded g1 , a true G2
Ace42 said:
thats kinda true i only get about 30-ram avail on a hero rom
on a xrom or something i would have alot more available.
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Very true. Also I'm really loving what Google did with the new icons in 2.0, much nicer than the HTC ones, so no need for a theme to hide the 1.6 icons that look like they're from the 90's >.<
Check out these pics and post...I know these are all predictions but man they do look nice.
http://www.talkandroid.com/android-forums/android-hardware/341-t-mobile-g2-phone.html
yupp,
i plan on getting the next keyboard HTC android phone for Tmobile
roguestatuskat said:
yupp,
i plan on getting the next keyboard HTC android phone for Tmobile
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Same here, Id like to see a G1 type phone with higher specs, basically a G1.5
Pinesal said:
G1 is starting to show it's age and we've had the superior Hero for awhile and now the DROID is out and even better than Hero. The problem is, they are for other carriers.
Tmobil just cam out with the Motorola CLIQ but it doesn't seem to be even as good as the Hero and definitely not as good as the DROID.
Are there any rumors of a worthwhile upgrade coming to Tmobile?
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leaked images of tmobiles phone "map" showed motorola sholes and the sholes tablet...
motorola sholes ofcoarse is the droid but gsm, and i am guessing the sholes table is the same as the moto droid,but full touchscreen w/ no keyboard..(no date annouced or leaked)
mytouch le (fender phone) definitely worth it compared to the behold 2... uses the 32a board = 288mb ram, 16gb sd card, and a 3.5mm jack. basically having a hero without sense ui stock...and i am sure the phone can be rooted the same way as the regular mytouch3g...maybe.(date: jan 2010)
i think that HTC should ask us here at XDA what we want, because being power users, i think we will have a better understanding of what we would like to see in a phone and at a decent price
thankfully my work let me exchange my storm for the droid and this phone could have been perfect but instead they decided to give it a **** keyboard. the G1's keyboard feels huge in comparison. luckily the screen is so big that using the OS-keyboard is easier and much preferred. This droid not only looks nice but it makes my G1 feel super slow. I always knew that the g1's screen wasnt as nice as the iphones but it was still a good looking screen compared to most other phones. Well just wait until you see android running on the droids screen and put the g1 beside it. It totally put the g1's screen to shame in not only size but resolution. this thing is so hi-res its sick. All i know is tmobile needs to get something equally as good as the droid by the time my contract is up next october. Oh to answer the OP's question, for the time being the droid is the "next phone". i dont think any of HTC's current phones can touch it.

Is anyone considering the Mytouch HD?

I know a lot of remorse periods are coming to an end. Is anyone considering returning their g2 and getting the Mytouch HD once its released??
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Heck naw. I need my keyboard and stock android.
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Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
sino8r said:
Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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I agree the G2 looks way better and the genius button is pretty dumb.
kylez64 said:
I agree the G2 looks way better and the genius button is pretty dumb.
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The genius button isn't too bad once it remapped to search button. Then you can map a long press to another app like a led flashlight or task manager. Basically, its the same guts as the G2 only no kb and add a ffc. It would a stupid upgrade from a G2. Waste of money, imo.
sino8r said:
Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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Exactly...
sino8r said:
The genius button isn't too bad once it remapped to search button. Then you can map a long press to another app like a led flashlight or task manager. Basically, its the same guts as the G2 only no kb and add a ffc. It would a stupid upgrade from a G2. Waste of money, imo.
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No it does not have the same guts as the G2. It features the 1Ghz MSM8255 chip which is substantially faster than the G2's MSM7230. Its not the same chip overclocked to 1Ghz; its an entirely different chip. Its the same one found in the Desire HD.
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mftek said:
I know a lot of remorse periods are coming to an end. Is anyone considering returning their g2 and getting the Mytouch HD once its released??
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heck no. having played with my wife's MT Slide, im not impressed with the plasticy feel of the phone or the terrible sense UI. the only thing this new mytouch has going for it is a bigger screen. the front camera is useless unless you know others with a front camera (i dont).
I personally, am going to check out the new mytouch. When reviewed by engadget, the build quality was said to be very solid, with the same metal accents the g2 has. The front facing camera would be great for chatting with my daughter in georgia, I rarely use the keyboard on my g2(I was using my nexus one previously), and as soon as it's rooted I'll be switching to vanilla android with launcherpro anyways.
So what's the big deal? I don't buy a device for what it does, but rather for what it CAN DO.
Had I known about the new mytouch sooner, I would have waited. Now my 14 days are up and I'll have to sell/trade my g2.
As a side note: if anyone is going to be buying the g2 as new service or as an upgrade, get in touch with me. Maybe we can work something out where you get the new mytouch instead and I give you my flawless g2 and pay the difference.
Won't be trading mine. This g2 is hot. Haha. the damn thing is fast as hell at 800mhz. I played with the droid x and droid 2. The speed of the g2 eats them alive and I think those are 1ghz phones? I could be wrong
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The Great NY said:
Won't be trading mine. This g2 is hot. Haha. the damn thing is fast as hell at 800mhz. I played with the droid x and droid 2. The speed of the g2 eats them alive and I think those are 1ghz phones? I could be wrong
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Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
I will be getting one to go along with my G2. I've actually held the new MyTouch and it is not plastic or cheaply built. I was actually pleasantly surprised at how nice it was, I just wish there was no Genius button as well.
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InGeNeTiCs said:
Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
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Haha...funny u should mention cars. I'm actually a builder and a tuner..lol. so I know exactly what u mean
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If the MyTouch is the North American version of the HD, I would suspect the G2 would be an overall better performer. Here is my reasoning, take it how you will:
The 1ghz scorpion that the Desire HD uses has a less powerful GPU than the 800 mhz processor the G2 and Desire Z use. Additionally, the g2 has a larger battery than the Desire HD despite the HD's larger screen ( 1,300mAh battery on G2 vsthe Desire HD features a 1230mAh ) which could suggest the need for more power under the hood despite lower clock speed.
Many have suggested that the 800mghz is deliberately underlocked and the fact that there is now an OC that doesnt require whole new kernel would suggest that this is true.
My personal take: going on pure processing specs alone (and assuming the MyTouch HD/4g is the same as the Desire HD under the hood) then the g2 is the clear winner.
Going on product design, it really depends on whether you want an FFC or a hardware keyboard.
Going on aesthetics i think the g2 wins - even if the MyTouch build quality is high, it still has a toylike look.
I suspect at the end of the day, out of the box the g2 runs faster w/ a better battery life given stock android, faster gpu, and smaller screen. It remains to be seen what root will do to these two devices and how the current g2 OC affects battery life.
I also suspect that if the g2 and mytouch ere to get gingerbread (unconfirmed), it would come slightly faster to the g2 OTA given that sense would not have to be ported.
sino8r said:
Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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The mytouch4g isn't plastic.
No
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I still have 6 days left and I'm loving the G2 so far that I don't think it'd be worth it to get the MT HD. A lot of my friends have the iPhone 4 and they rarely use the FFC, and I doubt I would too. And coming from a iPhone 3G I'm loving the physical keyboard.
I miss android, the way it handles everything, still remember when one user wrote reboot and we found root back in the G1 days.
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InGeNeTiCs said:
Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
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Not really...
A G2 running at 1Ghz will out-perform a G2 running at stock 800mhz 100% of the time (on CPU-bound operations), on 100% of devices. There is no hand-tuning for one particular speed.
Don't give HTC this much credit. All they do is take ASOP code and code in their little hacks to lock down the device. In the grand scheme of things, they know very little about tuning an OS to a particular piece of hardware.
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Not really...
A G2 running at 1Ghz will out-perform a G2 running at stock 800mhz 100% of the time (on CPU-bound operations), on 100% of devices. There is no hand-tuning for one particular speed.
Don't give HTC this much credit. All they do is take ASOP code and code in their little hacks to lock down the device. In the grand scheme of things, they know very little about tuning an OS to a particular piece of hardware.
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Completely agree. Take a look at this site, if you think HTC has a clue about drivers and tuning.
http://htcclassaction.org/
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Completely agree. Take a look at this site, if you think HTC has a clue about drivers and tuning.
http://htcclassaction.org/
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lol
HTC builds their devices to the specs of their customers (mainly carriers), if their customers don't want to dig deep in their pockets for HTC to build the proper drivers, HTC isn't going to waste resources on something their customers has not asked for.

[Q] MyTouch 4g CPU and GPU

Hey XDA,
I currently have a MyTouch 3g 32B. Yeah I know, ancient, right? I'm currently looking to upgrade to either a T-mobile MyTouch 4g or a T-mobile G2 (aka Desire Z).
I'm into custom ROMs, radios, hboots, SPLs, kernels, you guys know the drill. I'm pretty dedicated to Cyanogenmod, and I've noticed that they only support the G2 right now, I haven't really heard anything about the MyTouch and CM. So this gives the G2 a big advantage over the MyTouch.
Keyboard doesn't matter. The front facing camera gives the MyTouch a little bit of an edge. I'm leaning towards G2 because of modding.
This isn't really a versus thread, as I have almost all the info I want from gsmarena.com. But I'm having a hard time comparing the CPU and GPU in the two phones. Not much turns up on Google. Obviously the speeds are different, but that doesn't matter much as I'll be overclocking it.
So which phone has a better CPU/GPU? I've heard the G2's GPU is currently the best, not sure how true that is. I will be using the phone for emulators.
The question: what does XDA think of the CPUs/GPUs? Can anyone give me the model of GPU the phones use?
Thanks!
Nick
P.S. Cross-posted to G2 general.
I had the G2 and I can tell you 100% this phone is hands down better. CM will come to this device soon as well. Don't settle for a phone based on what it's development is at in a given time. Look at what is better in terms of hardware and over all device specs. With 786 mb of RAM and FFC and perm root this MT4G nails the coffin on the heavy loose dangling hinged G2.
A good developer is going to be receiving his MT4G really soon to pick up the CM port for our MT4G.
I also love the MT4G and there WILL be many roms on it just look in the general discussion section where they have raised money to buy phones for devs to allow them to make roms. but about the G2 hinge problem just check it at the store before you buy it (hold it upside down ...) my friend did this and he got 1 with a very sturdy hinge. As to your gpu/cpu I don't know but I think the CPU is the same (don't take my word for it though).
CPU =MSM8x55 at 1Ghz
GPU = Adreno 205
The MSM7x30, MSM8x55, and the MSM8x50a all use a 45nm process. The speeds are 800Mhz, 1Ghz, and 1.3Ghz respectively.
The Adreno 205 is a significant performance enhancement from the Adreno 200 found in the first gen snapdragon processors found in the Nexus One, etc.
The MT4G MSM8x55 is likely an o/c'd version of the MSM7x30 as alot of references to MSM7x30 are made in build.prop and throughout the rest of the OS. Same situation probably from the MSM8x55 to the MSM8x50a. Intel does this with their cpu's all the time. O/C, stamp a different model number on it, and sell it at a premium price.
MSM = Mobile Station Modem
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grankin01 said:
The MT4G MSM8x55 is likely an o/c'd version of the MSM7x30 as alot of references to MSM7x30 are made in build.prop and throughout the rest of the OS. Same situation probably from the MSM8x55 to the MSM8x50a. Intel does this with their cpu's all the time. O/C, stamp a different model number on it, and sell it at a premium price.
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Thanks I was looking for a post like this. So basically what the 4g has over the G2 is the FFC and more RAM? I kind of like the look of the G2, it's more.. professional looking? I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the posts so far guys!
nandryshak said:
Thanks I was looking for a post like this. So basically what the 4g has over the G2 is the FFC and more RAM? I kind of like the look of the G2, it's more.. professional looking? I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the posts so far guys!
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To each his own. I personally had 2 g2's and ended up sending them both back for random reboots and loose hinges. The reboots were fixed with the ota and custom roms I think but that hinge made me almost drop the phone several times and was going to do nothing but get worse over time. And it seemed to loosen up very quickly. Just FYI.
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I too owned the G2 and it was a great device. It was smoother than the 4g but I'm sure that's due to the fact that it doesn't have a skin on top #cough cough# sense LOL
... I really miss the hinge and keyboard... you really can't go wrong with either device but the 4g is cheaper and has more features...
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If you can be patient. I'd imagine a port from CM will be forth coming very soon.
I came from a 32B myself and this phone even with Sense is way better.
I personally like a physical keyboard like my wife's Slide, but her and I both like the MT4G better.
Your choice though.
the mt4g is okay but the g2 is nothing to sneeze at, sense is nice but stock is better in my opinion, hmmm I wonder which phone will get Gingerbread first if the other gets it at all (officially anyway) you know some things work but most things are broken.
vdub804 said:
the mt4g is okay but the g2 is nothing to sneeze at, sense is nice but stock is better in my opinion, hmmm I wonder which phone will get Gingerbread first if the other gets it at all (officially anyway) you know some things work but most things are broken.
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I heard the reason why the g2 and the mt4g only have about 1gb instead of the 4gb as advertised is because some of that space is being saved up for gingerbread so eventually both devices will get updated
BTW just because the g2 currently can run CM doesn't mean that is superior than the mt4g just wait until they release some roms for this bad boy and will see how much this phone kicks ass even the stock Rom runs great just use LauncherPro instead of mySense no lag whatsoever
I had a G2 for about 2 weeks, and sent it back under the buyers remorse. Basically in stock form I like the G2 better, but felt the mytouch has a bit more longevity to it where it has more ram..that said I dont think you can go wrong with either phone. I am a stock froyo guy over sense or my sense crap but thats just my personal preference.
Running different benchmarks when clocked the same the G2 pulled ahead by a hair on most but I credit that to the mytouch running my sense, in actually using the devices I found the G2 to be smoother as well, but again the whole my sense thing again.
The mytouch line always seemed kinda kiddish to me somehow and it seems that a new model is always on the horizon, not trying to insult anyone that has one, or likes them..hell I have one currently lol, but I just cant shake the feeling that I am using a lesser phone, even though I know I am not.
Side by side I found the G2 to have a better display, colors looked more vivid and eye popping despite the mytouch having a slightly larger screen, the mytouch is slightly washed out looking, but that was only evident to me when they were side by side, using the phone on its own the mytouch is just fine and you dont really notice the colors and stuff when its not in a side by side direct comparison.
I suppose the end result would be whatever one you like better, both are good and the mytouch will have more ROMs for it shortly so that shouldnt really weigh in on your decision.
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