[Q] MyTouch 4g CPU and GPU - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey XDA,
I currently have a MyTouch 3g 32B. Yeah I know, ancient, right? I'm currently looking to upgrade to either a T-mobile MyTouch 4g or a T-mobile G2 (aka Desire Z).
I'm into custom ROMs, radios, hboots, SPLs, kernels, you guys know the drill. I'm pretty dedicated to Cyanogenmod, and I've noticed that they only support the G2 right now, I haven't really heard anything about the MyTouch and CM. So this gives the G2 a big advantage over the MyTouch.
Keyboard doesn't matter. The front facing camera gives the MyTouch a little bit of an edge. I'm leaning towards G2 because of modding.
This isn't really a versus thread, as I have almost all the info I want from gsmarena.com. But I'm having a hard time comparing the CPU and GPU in the two phones. Not much turns up on Google. Obviously the speeds are different, but that doesn't matter much as I'll be overclocking it.
So which phone has a better CPU/GPU? I've heard the G2's GPU is currently the best, not sure how true that is. I will be using the phone for emulators.
The question: what does XDA think of the CPUs/GPUs? Can anyone give me the model of GPU the phones use?
Thanks!
Nick
P.S. Cross-posted to G2 general.

I had the G2 and I can tell you 100% this phone is hands down better. CM will come to this device soon as well. Don't settle for a phone based on what it's development is at in a given time. Look at what is better in terms of hardware and over all device specs. With 786 mb of RAM and FFC and perm root this MT4G nails the coffin on the heavy loose dangling hinged G2.
A good developer is going to be receiving his MT4G really soon to pick up the CM port for our MT4G.

I also love the MT4G and there WILL be many roms on it just look in the general discussion section where they have raised money to buy phones for devs to allow them to make roms. but about the G2 hinge problem just check it at the store before you buy it (hold it upside down ...) my friend did this and he got 1 with a very sturdy hinge. As to your gpu/cpu I don't know but I think the CPU is the same (don't take my word for it though).

CPU =MSM8x55 at 1Ghz
GPU = Adreno 205
The MSM7x30, MSM8x55, and the MSM8x50a all use a 45nm process. The speeds are 800Mhz, 1Ghz, and 1.3Ghz respectively.
The Adreno 205 is a significant performance enhancement from the Adreno 200 found in the first gen snapdragon processors found in the Nexus One, etc.
The MT4G MSM8x55 is likely an o/c'd version of the MSM7x30 as alot of references to MSM7x30 are made in build.prop and throughout the rest of the OS. Same situation probably from the MSM8x55 to the MSM8x50a. Intel does this with their cpu's all the time. O/C, stamp a different model number on it, and sell it at a premium price.
MSM = Mobile Station Modem
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The MT4G MSM8x55 is likely an o/c'd version of the MSM7x30 as alot of references to MSM7x30 are made in build.prop and throughout the rest of the OS. Same situation probably from the MSM8x55 to the MSM8x50a. Intel does this with their cpu's all the time. O/C, stamp a different model number on it, and sell it at a premium price.
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Thanks I was looking for a post like this. So basically what the 4g has over the G2 is the FFC and more RAM? I kind of like the look of the G2, it's more.. professional looking? I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the posts so far guys!

nandryshak said:
Thanks I was looking for a post like this. So basically what the 4g has over the G2 is the FFC and more RAM? I kind of like the look of the G2, it's more.. professional looking? I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the posts so far guys!
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To each his own. I personally had 2 g2's and ended up sending them both back for random reboots and loose hinges. The reboots were fixed with the ota and custom roms I think but that hinge made me almost drop the phone several times and was going to do nothing but get worse over time. And it seemed to loosen up very quickly. Just FYI.
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I too owned the G2 and it was a great device. It was smoother than the 4g but I'm sure that's due to the fact that it doesn't have a skin on top #cough cough# sense LOL
... I really miss the hinge and keyboard... you really can't go wrong with either device but the 4g is cheaper and has more features...
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If you can be patient. I'd imagine a port from CM will be forth coming very soon.
I came from a 32B myself and this phone even with Sense is way better.
I personally like a physical keyboard like my wife's Slide, but her and I both like the MT4G better.
Your choice though.

the mt4g is okay but the g2 is nothing to sneeze at, sense is nice but stock is better in my opinion, hmmm I wonder which phone will get Gingerbread first if the other gets it at all (officially anyway) you know some things work but most things are broken.

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the mt4g is okay but the g2 is nothing to sneeze at, sense is nice but stock is better in my opinion, hmmm I wonder which phone will get Gingerbread first if the other gets it at all (officially anyway) you know some things work but most things are broken.
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I heard the reason why the g2 and the mt4g only have about 1gb instead of the 4gb as advertised is because some of that space is being saved up for gingerbread so eventually both devices will get updated
BTW just because the g2 currently can run CM doesn't mean that is superior than the mt4g just wait until they release some roms for this bad boy and will see how much this phone kicks ass even the stock Rom runs great just use LauncherPro instead of mySense no lag whatsoever

I had a G2 for about 2 weeks, and sent it back under the buyers remorse. Basically in stock form I like the G2 better, but felt the mytouch has a bit more longevity to it where it has more ram..that said I dont think you can go wrong with either phone. I am a stock froyo guy over sense or my sense crap but thats just my personal preference.
Running different benchmarks when clocked the same the G2 pulled ahead by a hair on most but I credit that to the mytouch running my sense, in actually using the devices I found the G2 to be smoother as well, but again the whole my sense thing again.
The mytouch line always seemed kinda kiddish to me somehow and it seems that a new model is always on the horizon, not trying to insult anyone that has one, or likes them..hell I have one currently lol, but I just cant shake the feeling that I am using a lesser phone, even though I know I am not.
Side by side I found the G2 to have a better display, colors looked more vivid and eye popping despite the mytouch having a slightly larger screen, the mytouch is slightly washed out looking, but that was only evident to me when they were side by side, using the phone on its own the mytouch is just fine and you dont really notice the colors and stuff when its not in a side by side direct comparison.
I suppose the end result would be whatever one you like better, both are good and the mytouch will have more ROMs for it shortly so that shouldnt really weigh in on your decision.

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Why is everyone excited over the G2 if the galaxy s is faster and has a larger screen

I really don't understand the fervor and I don't mean to be a jerk. Why is it such a big deal?
I have a friend who's even held out for the g2 over the vibrant.
Probably because T-Mobile is marketing the G2 more since it has the T-Mobile brand. Kind of like what Verizon does to "Droid" It's all marketing.
im not excited. sure it will be a great phone. but i honestly think it's ugly. i can appreciate the hw keyboard though.
Some people are excited because it comes with Android 2.2 and given Samsung's past, we could be waiting a while for 2.2.
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Some people are excited because it comes with Android 2.2 and given Samsung's past, we could be waiting a while for 2.2.
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You don't seem very optimistic at all. Samsung UK have confirmed Android 2.2 for UK but nothing for U.S., hoping for the same result in the U.S. or at least close to it.
It utilizes HSPA+ which is only really useful if it's deployed in your area.
The marketing angle (mentioned above) is certainly part of it. Also, it's the named-successor to the G1 - that's special for lots of folks. Thats the highlight for me, really. If the Galaxy S lineup hadn't gotten the XDA section and CM roadmap (legitimized the platform, in my eyes) I might be waiting for a G2 also. Now that I've got my Vibrant, though ... No way could I be happy with a smaller screen and lesser CPU/GPU. I love my Vibrant. Some folks really love the thought of a "official" Google phone though. To each their own. Anyway, if the Vibrant starts pissing me off 6 months from now, G2 means I have something else to try out instead.
I LOVE my Vibrant but I will most likely get a G2, mainly because of the keyboard, the success and continued support the G1 still gets from the XDA community.
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Keyboard isn't even a necessity for me. 4" Screen + Virtual Keyboard (or Swype) works more than fine for me. I definitely do think T-Mobile will spend most of their money towards marketing the G2 and saying it runs at 4G speeds (HSPA+)
just because the cpu has a slower max speed doesnt necessarily mean the phone will run slower. plus the vibrant has touchwiz bogging it down a little. the g2 is vanilla android 2.2. I'm excited for it.
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just because the cpu has a slower max speed doesnt necessarily mean the phone will run slower. plus the vibrant has touchwiz bogging it down a little. the g2 is vanilla android 2.2. I'm excited for it.
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Eugene released a package to remove TouchWiz. Get your facts straight.
Also, once CM6 gets released.. everything will be good again.
If the g2 has a working GPS and compass I'd consider it a better phone than the vibrant on that alone. I could care less about the qwerty keyboard but g2 will be shipping with swype so that's good. Hspa+ is a major leap for tmo where the vibrant won't even be able to compare. G2 is basically the next gen dev phone for Android. That holds a lot of weight for many.
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Eugene released a package to remove TouchWiz. Get your facts straight.
Also, once CM6 gets released.. everything will be good again.
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I know... I have hybrid r3 currently installed. I'm just saying it will be fast without having to remove excess stuff.
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Physical keyboard, HSPA+, stock android 2.2 (I think I read that they added 4 more homescreens though). Also, given the fact that it's the G1's successor, it'll be great for the mod/hack community
It sucks I bought my vibrant over a month ago, I would've gladly returned it for a G2
I'm still not real sure if I want to give up my Vibrant for the G2. I really don't think the G2 will just blow the Vibrant out of the water or make it obsolete. It has a slower processor, smaller screen, smaller battery, and is thicker. What I didn't like about my G1 and Cliq was the thickness. When I got swipe on the G1, I stopped using the physical keyboard and I wouldn't be using it if the Vibrant had one either.
It does have a camera flash, 2.2, and HSPA+ and potentially more support/development, but nothing else about it is appealing. The trackpad is neat, but I feel like too much real estate is being wasted below the screen on the G2, making it longer than it should be. I've been getting along just fine without a trackball/pad for a few weeks now.
I wish there was just a little more known about the hardware and an exact release date. I don't think I could lie with my old Tmobile Dash for more than another week if I sent my Vibrant back.
it's all about that scorpion processor, its the first of its kind on a phone, and although it is clocked lower than the current superphones (g2 running at 800mhz instead of 1ghz). it is a 45nm processor rather than a 65nm like snapdragon and other 1ghz, meaning it'll consume less battery power and be more efficient most likely beating the current 1ghz in speed and performance.
especially since its running stock froyo..theres also the hspa+ speeds, and for some ppl the physical keyboard is a plus. This phone will most likely take the crown as the fastest android phone...but..I still think it looks ugly and too plain :/
I wouldnt get too excited till it actually comes out. Then we'll know for sure on everything. All this regret or this will be better is just whatevers till the g2 is actually out
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jaker.the.skater said:
just because the cpu has a slower max speed doesnt necessarily mean the phone will run slower. plus the vibrant has touchwiz bogging it down a little. the g2 is vanilla android 2.2. I'm excited for it.
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Exactly!
The processor in the G2 is an 800MHz Scorpion processor, which benchmarks at around the same performance level as the 1GHz Hummingbird processor in the Vibrant and is a bit more efficient on battery power. It's a huge improvement over the Snapdragon processors, about 4 times the speed at comparable clockspeeds.
jaker.the.skater said:
I know... I have hybrid r3 currently installed. I'm just saying it will be fast without having to remove excess stuff.
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even if you had a G2 running Vanilla i'm guessing that it wouldn't be running "STOCK" you would mod it like the majority of us here on XDA. That is the fun of it. Removing **** that we don't want and adding stuff that we do. So for us it really doesn't matter at the end of the day that the G2 will be running Vanilla. SO WHAT. Our vibrant will have AOSP and CM6.1 soon enough Just sayin.
Well, the G2 will awesome, I only have a problem with it:
It's release will severly slow down development on the Vibrant. :/ I've only had my Vibrant 3 weeks so if development doesnt pick up soon ill trade it in for a G2.

Is anyone considering the Mytouch HD?

I know a lot of remorse periods are coming to an end. Is anyone considering returning their g2 and getting the Mytouch HD once its released??
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Heck naw. I need my keyboard and stock android.
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Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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I agree the G2 looks way better and the genius button is pretty dumb.
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I agree the G2 looks way better and the genius button is pretty dumb.
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The genius button isn't too bad once it remapped to search button. Then you can map a long press to another app like a led flashlight or task manager. Basically, its the same guts as the G2 only no kb and add a ffc. It would a stupid upgrade from a G2. Waste of money, imo.
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Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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Exactly...
sino8r said:
The genius button isn't too bad once it remapped to search button. Then you can map a long press to another app like a led flashlight or task manager. Basically, its the same guts as the G2 only no kb and add a ffc. It would a stupid upgrade from a G2. Waste of money, imo.
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No it does not have the same guts as the G2. It features the 1Ghz MSM8255 chip which is substantially faster than the G2's MSM7230. Its not the same chip overclocked to 1Ghz; its an entirely different chip. Its the same one found in the Desire HD.
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mftek said:
I know a lot of remorse periods are coming to an end. Is anyone considering returning their g2 and getting the Mytouch HD once its released??
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heck no. having played with my wife's MT Slide, im not impressed with the plasticy feel of the phone or the terrible sense UI. the only thing this new mytouch has going for it is a bigger screen. the front camera is useless unless you know others with a front camera (i dont).
I personally, am going to check out the new mytouch. When reviewed by engadget, the build quality was said to be very solid, with the same metal accents the g2 has. The front facing camera would be great for chatting with my daughter in georgia, I rarely use the keyboard on my g2(I was using my nexus one previously), and as soon as it's rooted I'll be switching to vanilla android with launcherpro anyways.
So what's the big deal? I don't buy a device for what it does, but rather for what it CAN DO.
Had I known about the new mytouch sooner, I would have waited. Now my 14 days are up and I'll have to sell/trade my g2.
As a side note: if anyone is going to be buying the g2 as new service or as an upgrade, get in touch with me. Maybe we can work something out where you get the new mytouch instead and I give you my flawless g2 and pay the difference.
Won't be trading mine. This g2 is hot. Haha. the damn thing is fast as hell at 800mhz. I played with the droid x and droid 2. The speed of the g2 eats them alive and I think those are 1ghz phones? I could be wrong
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Won't be trading mine. This g2 is hot. Haha. the damn thing is fast as hell at 800mhz. I played with the droid x and droid 2. The speed of the g2 eats them alive and I think those are 1ghz phones? I could be wrong
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Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
I will be getting one to go along with my G2. I've actually held the new MyTouch and it is not plastic or cheaply built. I was actually pleasantly surprised at how nice it was, I just wish there was no Genius button as well.
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Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
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Haha...funny u should mention cars. I'm actually a builder and a tuner..lol. so I know exactly what u mean
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If the MyTouch is the North American version of the HD, I would suspect the G2 would be an overall better performer. Here is my reasoning, take it how you will:
The 1ghz scorpion that the Desire HD uses has a less powerful GPU than the 800 mhz processor the G2 and Desire Z use. Additionally, the g2 has a larger battery than the Desire HD despite the HD's larger screen ( 1,300mAh battery on G2 vsthe Desire HD features a 1230mAh ) which could suggest the need for more power under the hood despite lower clock speed.
Many have suggested that the 800mghz is deliberately underlocked and the fact that there is now an OC that doesnt require whole new kernel would suggest that this is true.
My personal take: going on pure processing specs alone (and assuming the MyTouch HD/4g is the same as the Desire HD under the hood) then the g2 is the clear winner.
Going on product design, it really depends on whether you want an FFC or a hardware keyboard.
Going on aesthetics i think the g2 wins - even if the MyTouch build quality is high, it still has a toylike look.
I suspect at the end of the day, out of the box the g2 runs faster w/ a better battery life given stock android, faster gpu, and smaller screen. It remains to be seen what root will do to these two devices and how the current g2 OC affects battery life.
I also suspect that if the g2 and mytouch ere to get gingerbread (unconfirmed), it would come slightly faster to the g2 OTA given that sense would not have to be ported.
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Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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The mytouch4g isn't plastic.
No
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I still have 6 days left and I'm loving the G2 so far that I don't think it'd be worth it to get the MT HD. A lot of my friends have the iPhone 4 and they rarely use the FFC, and I doubt I would too. And coming from a iPhone 3G I'm loving the physical keyboard.
I miss android, the way it handles everything, still remember when one user wrote reboot and we found root back in the G1 days.
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InGeNeTiCs said:
Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
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Not really...
A G2 running at 1Ghz will out-perform a G2 running at stock 800mhz 100% of the time (on CPU-bound operations), on 100% of devices. There is no hand-tuning for one particular speed.
Don't give HTC this much credit. All they do is take ASOP code and code in their little hacks to lock down the device. In the grand scheme of things, they know very little about tuning an OS to a particular piece of hardware.
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Not really...
A G2 running at 1Ghz will out-perform a G2 running at stock 800mhz 100% of the time (on CPU-bound operations), on 100% of devices. There is no hand-tuning for one particular speed.
Don't give HTC this much credit. All they do is take ASOP code and code in their little hacks to lock down the device. In the grand scheme of things, they know very little about tuning an OS to a particular piece of hardware.
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Completely agree. Take a look at this site, if you think HTC has a clue about drivers and tuning.
http://htcclassaction.org/
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Completely agree. Take a look at this site, if you think HTC has a clue about drivers and tuning.
http://htcclassaction.org/
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lol
HTC builds their devices to the specs of their customers (mainly carriers), if their customers don't want to dig deep in their pockets for HTC to build the proper drivers, HTC isn't going to waste resources on something their customers has not asked for.

Should I return and get a G2?

So I got the Samsung Galaxy S 4G on friday and idk what it is but im iffy on it. I like everything about it no complaints but the G2 has been on my eye since it came out. So im asking you all with your own experience with the G2 if i should go return and get one.
Haven't personally used the galaxy S 4g. Is it the same as the previous one, but with a new radio in it basically? Seems to be the case.
The G2 is a great phone and I'm sure you'll obviously get mostly positive reviews in the G2 section, but its up to you really. At this point in time, unfortunately, the G2 is starting to get a bit dated (sad considering it just came out in September), but then again the GS 4G is gonna be shadowed by the newer Galaxy S II devices coming out soon as well all the same. I would put them in the same group really.
The phones are quite different, considering that the G2 is stock android and a keyboard slider, whereas the Galaxy S 4G has a customized TouchWiz UI and no keyboard. Performance is about the same I'm sure, but its really up to your preferences at that point. The GS 4G has a front facing camera, and a slightly faster processor (out of the box that is, you can overclock the G2 just as much), and other than that, not much. The biggest deal is which form factor you like more.
If you plan on rooting your phone and going that route, and that is something that is important to you, maybe you should look and see how the dev communities of each phone suit you. This also means that the stock software differences between the 2 wont really matter because you'll be putting custom ROMs on it anyways then.
If the Vibrant 4g is the same thing as the Vibrant except for the 4g chip, go for the g2. I came from a Vibrant to a g2, and I wish I had done it earlier. The g2 is faster straight out of the box, no stupid lagfixes needed. I was at first concerned about going from a 1ghz chip to an 800, but the g2 blows the Vibrant away, even without overclocking.
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If the Vibrant 4g is the same thing as the Vibrant except for the 4g chip, go for the g2. I came from a Vibrant to a g2, and I wish I had done it earlier. The g2 is faster straight out of the box, no stupid lagfixes needed. I was at first concerned about going from a 1ghz chip to an 800, but the g2 blows the Vibrant away, even without overclocking.
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Yea lol so true but I wouldn't mind having a phone with a bigger screen since I peronally like big screens but that's me. As for the G2 its a fast phone, never shows lag even if you have filled the screen with wigets
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To me the vibrant was light and simple. Great for calls and watching movies and listening to music. I do a lot more on my G2. Emails, more texting... I just feel more productive with a keyboard.
Cheeze[iT] said:
To me the vibrant was light and simple. Great for calls and watching movies and listening to music. I do a lot more on my G2. Emails, more texting... I just feel more productive with a keyboard.
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I feel yea. I do some of my essays on my phone. (Document to go app)
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G2 all the way baby. Screw that galaxy bull****. Screen size diff ain't that big a deal hombre.
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G2 all the way baby. Screw that galaxy bull****. Screen size diff ain't that big a deal hombre.
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Word... To be honest, you really don't notice much of a difference between the 2 screen sizes. Watching Inception on 4 inches vs 3.7 is not going to show you what you were missing out on. It's still a tiny screen for movies. The difference with the screen will be the LCD vs SAMOLED. Its nice, but not worth everything else the G2 has, from amazing hardware, software and dev support to the camera flash and slide out keyboard.
Unless you do some serious video chatting, I'd get a G2 and wait to majorly upgrade in 6 months or so when we have a bunch of dual cores on the market.
Trust me, go with the galaxy s, once you root it you will love it. It has a faster processor than the g2, a bigger screen, a super amoled display, and is thinner and more durable. I felt the same way you feel at first about my galaxy s, but now this is the only phone I want. Its AMAZING.
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g2 or the desire z is a good phone..except the keyboard and the ****ing loose hinge..
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Trust me, go with the galaxy s, once you root it you will love it. It has a faster processor than the g2, a bigger screen, a super amoled display, and is thinner and more durable. I felt the same way you feel at first about my galaxy s, but now this is the only phone I want. Its AMAZING.
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Let me preface this by saying to each his own. I would never discourage someone from trying any other Android phone. That being said.... I have never used a Fascinate but had a Vibrant and LOVED it until I realized how awesome the G2 is. The problem is, the ONLY way to love that phone, is to root it. And even then, a lagfix must be implemented for decent performance. I remember when I shat my pants because the Vibrant could be OC'd to 1.4gzh and show me a Quad of 2300. My G2 can do that if I submerge it in the toilet and run Rhapsody while I OC and run the benchmark (hyperbole alert).
Maybe the GPS is fixed on the SGS4G, but it was awful on the Vibrant for so many people. It's durability is easily questionable, as it feels like it is made of dollar store parts. It only has a faster processor out of the box. The G2 is capable of much, MUCH more.
Bottom line, IMO, if one is better than the other, the differences come down to user preference and not general real world experience. Team Whiskey makes some AMAZING ROMs for the Vibrant, but CM is barely limping along with bug after bug. And I don't even know for sure that Vibrant ROMs can be run on the SGS4G, or how complicated that particular Port is.
Thanks for the input guys I have 1 week to decide what to do. I was wondering what the Quad for the G2 is just off the bat because mine is only about 975.
i have used a few phones beforee settling on my g2. one of htem was the samsung captivate which is basically the galaxy s 4g in a different body and without the 4g. i can tell you that the g2 is way better. samsung makes th galaxy s phones really crappy(all plastic) and probably wont ever give the new galaxy s an update that all of the other galaxy s users are still waiting for(2.2!).
I have had stock Quad scored range from 1500 - 2000, rooted and OC'd I can get in the 3000's
if i were you then i would exchange them, but i cant work without a physical keyboard
I have a regular Vibrant and a G2 (one is a work phone). Both rooted on custom ROMs. G2 is on CM7 while Vibrant is still on Froyo.
If they could have put the Vibrant screen on the G2, it would be the best phone on the market. I'm not saying just because of the keyboard, but the G2 is a more solid phone over all. It's faster (albeit, overclocked) over all.
To each his own though. Having CM7 is worth it for me.
IMO G2/Desire Z is one of the best phones out there and is worth the money. I have been using it since december, been back and forth between nexus one, desire, desire z and i am finally picking up my dz back. not letting it go this time... love this phone... it really rocks...
I'm currently a captivate user on att contract, and I am thinking about jumping over to a DZ... but I am having trouble justifying paying 500$-ish for a new unlocked phone that people are starting to call "dated."
However, I made it a point to myself that I will NEVER buy a smartphone without a physical qwerty ever again. Swype was cool for a few months, but it's impossible to be productive with an entirely touch screen phone... and to me that's just a contradiction to the "smart" in smartphone itself
Could always wait alittle longer for the "next-gen" dual core phones set to be released later this year
no i dont recommend this phone..if u rly rly need a keyboard phone then u can get it otherwise i recommend nexus S

[Q] G2 ->MT4G: Anyone made the journey? Dets?

So I got caught up in the M-Atrix for a minute, but decided to take the blue pill (or was it the red pill?) and get out. Now though I am missing the ffc, battery life, and feel back here in DeZireland (G2), so I am thinking of swapping my G2 for a MT4G and I am looking for feedback from those that have made the journey already. What are your pros and cons? An inquiring mind wants to know.
My last phone was a G2. I thought it was a great phone. Internally both phones are about the same. If you are staying stock, you need to ask yourself do you like Vanilla Android, or do you like the MySense UI that the myTouch line offers. Hardware wise, the only difference between the two is the G2 has a keyboard and the MT4G has the FFC. They both have smartphone-like battery life.
If you are rooting, the UI is immaterial, as you could flash whichever you wanted on either phone. Personally, I found myself never using the physical keyboard because I love Swype. And while I don't use it for video chat, the FFC is cool as hell to me. As soon as I get a few more friends with FFCs I will be all over the video chat.
So I guess basically comes down to either the physical keyboard or FFC. Which do you want more?
The myTouch has 768mb of memory as opposed to the G2 with 512mb... only main difference than otherwise posted I love my mt4g much more than when I had the G2.. The hinge on the G2 ended up bugging me to the point where I used a rubber band to hold it closed (I then just exchanged it for the mTouch lol).
Both phones are great minus a few small issues.. G2's vanilla is nice for dev's and people who don't like Sense (Sense rocks with a small overclock in my opinion). I liked the notification light built around the trackpad on the G2. The slightly larger screen on the mTouch was noticeable for me, and the overall thinness.
Well I happen to own both of the phones. And I have to say that MyTouch 4G is much better! They both have almost the same specs but you really notice the difference when running many apps at once. The MyTouch 4g is a mutlitasking monster with 768MB ram! And coupled with faux123's kernel you can't go wrong! Only thing I like ym G2 for is playing SNESoid and others. But i'm about to get bluetooth controller so... GO MYTOUCH!
I just switched from the G2 to the myTouch 4G...personally think I've done the better decision...actually went from G2 -> Vibrant 4G -> myTouch4G.
I actually ran the myTouch4G rom on my G2 so there isn't anything different rom wise but performance I think it runs much faster than the G2 did and I haven't overclocked mine.
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Well I happen to own both of the phones. And I have to say that MyTouch 4G is much better! They both have almost the same specs but you really notice the difference when running many apps at once. The MyTouch 4g is a mutlitasking monster with 768MB ram! And coupled with faux123's kernel you can't go wrong! Only thing I like ym G2 for is playing SNESoid and others. But i'm about to get bluetooth controller so... GO MYTOUCH!
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WOAH WHERE CAN I HAS GET CONTROLLER I WANTS ONE!!!
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I own both. I really love both.
I feel like the my touch is growing on me. Specwise it flies. G2 is slick. It feels so science ficción.
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They also have different processors. The G2 has an 800Mhz Scorpion and the myTouch has a 1Ghz Snapdragon.
I just made the switch from G2 to mT4G. Couldn't be happier. I thought I would use the keyboard on the G2 but never did. The mT4G is lighter and much thinner.
I will say that IMO the Dev scene is better for the G2 than the mT4G. Just my opinion... But if you are going to use CM it doesn't matter.
FFC Rocks!
Passed on the G2 to the wife. Couldn't stand the bulk and the hinge. The MT4G is faster due to the RAM and slightly faster processor, but not noticeably when both running CM7. The G2 is a better looking phone and seems built better (except for the hinge) as my MT4G has creaky buttons, dust under the lens and just a generally funky collection of textures and material colors. If I wasn't planning on rooting the MT4G, I probably would have kept the G2 to avoid the Sense bloat.
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Wouldn't you know it! As soon as I started this thread I dropped my G2 and now it has a bunch of fracking scratches on the screen! Anyway you guys have convinced me! Anyone wanna trade a MT4G for a not-so-mint-anymore-G2?
MLonon said:
So I got caught up in the M-Atrix for a minute, but decided to take the blue pill (or was it the red pill?) and get out. Now though I am missing the ffc, battery life, and feel back here in DeZireland (G2), so I am thinking of swapping my G2 for a MT4G and I am looking for feedback from those that have made the journey already. What are your pros and cons? An inquiring mind wants to know.
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I was originally in love with the G2 but held off because I realized I would never use the hardware keyboard anyway.
Opted for the MT4G for these reasons:
-more ram
-faster base processor speed (overclocking makes this kind of moot though)
-front-facing camera
-software doesn't matter because I run CyanogenMod on everything anyway
I do really love the look and feel of the G2 but after playing with it I realized I'm more comfortable on a touch screen keyboard. Now that I have CM7 on my phone I'm absolutely in love with it. The only thing I wish it had is the lighted ring around the trackpad like the G2.
I still think the G2 is a very sexy piece of hardware.

Not another Vibrant or G2? thread...

I've been using a g1 for the longest time, and have gone through tons of roms. It's finally time to move on though... the g1's community has largely ditched it's outdated hardware.
I'm looking at the vibrant and the G2 for tmobile, and the hardware seems to be roughly equal, with the g2 having a slight advantage in terms of muscle... hard keyboards are nice but I'm sure I can adjust.
I'm wondering how active the mod community is for the vibrant. I'm assuming no sense roms... I like sense but it's no big deal, I hear MIUI is nice. How stable/up-to-date are the better roms for the vibrant?
How do you vibrant owners like your phones? Do you wish you had anything from the G2?
Thanks
The vibrant is mostly dead. There are lots of stable 2.2 roms and tons of non stable 2.3 roms. We will never get official 2.3 ever. Go with the g2. Just keep in mind its a lot harder to root than the vibrant
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The vibrant is mostly dead. There are lots of stable 2.2 roms and tons of non stable 2.3 roms. We will never get official 2.3 ever. Go with the g2. Just keep in mind its a lot harder to root than the vibrant
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This is the kind of answer I was looking for, thanks. Looks like I'm going with the g2, unless somebody has a terribly compelling reason not to.
I aslo used a G1 for a long time:
I did have a G2 for a few months, and I'm pretty happy I switched to the Vibrant.
You just can't beat the Vibrant's screen, it's not even comparable to the G2's screen. Like night and day. It's also slightly bigger, which is good, because I have big hands.
The G2 is thick and heavy, if you drop it, it feels as if it would shatter into a million pieces. The Vibrant is light, and impressively thin.
Support from HTC on the G2 > Than the Vibrant's support from Samsung.
The Vibrant community has done a good job with putting Gingerbread on it, considering we don't have a source. I have a mostly bug free version of MIUI running on mine. My wife and I both use it as a daily driver.
I also prefer the Vibrant. In fact I prefer it so much we have 3 at our house. Latest one arriving tomorrow.
Development is mostly dead because CM7 is now bug-free and stable (except for mediocre battery-only about 15 hours on charge when you use the phone)
Phone itself is great. Screen and physical dimensions and weight are obviously big plusses and with CM7, it competes with dual cores just fine in speed. There's no slowdowns, lag, or anything like that. Tbh, I truly think it's the best single core phone at the moment. Dual cores are obviously better but also more expensive. You can pick up a Vibrant in good condition for $215 shipped.
G2 is also obviously another good choice. Personal preference there. Just know both phones are ridiculously fast on 2.3 and both can be overclocked a lot. Vibrant can push a good 1.4-1.5Ghz and G2 can be overclocked up to 1.6? I'm not all that familiar there.
Thanks for your input folks. I am aware that the screen on the vibrant is probably it's biggest selling point. Both phones are solid across the board hardware wise. The most important factor to me is the availability of solid roms for daily use, and right now it looks like the g2 is better supported by HTC.
If your rooting stable ROM's aren't a problem, but if your not then your screwed!
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