I got my HTC HD2 yesterday and i now know what love feels like.
My question is what is the latest radio's and roms for o2?
My handset is currently running rom 1.43.206.4 and radio version 2.04.50.22_2
Any advise will be greatly appriciated.
there are no updates for o2 yet.
I can highly recommend hspl2 your phone and install the wwe 1.66 rom.
(read the stickies in the rom development section)
there was supposed to be a new rom coming at the end march but nothing happened. i was told by a customer services guy that there were problems with the rom and it had been delayed.
unfortunately the version you currently have is the latest, for o2 UK any way.
why dont you flash another ROM theyr miles better, plus the o2 stock rom is floating about in the rom dev area so you can reflash if incase you return your phone!
Thanks for the tips guys. I will hspl2 it soon, ive got enough experiance from doing my xperia every other day lol. Which radio version is the best to use?
I've not really noticed much difference across the radios, im on 2.07.50 at the mo, in west yorks, and ive used the 2.08 one too. The only one i noticed a difference with was 2.09 but i use a 576 rom which it doesnt work with, so i only used it for a day.
Thanks. Last question, what is the diffrence between 576 roms etc? This is what has left me scatching my head.
I'd recommend radio 2.09 which I'm on, it's the best so far I've found and I've used all of them on my O2 HD2. I'm based in the Buckinghamshire area and it does me well round here.
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Thanks. Last question, what is the diffrence between 576 roms etc? This is what has left me scatching my head.
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the leo we all have (not tmous) have 576 meg of ram, but for whatever reason htc decided to hide 128 meg.
the leaked tmous roms a few months ago unlocked that ram, so now, if you flash a rom based on the 2.10 roms and a matching radio you will get 576 meg ram.
to be honest the ram rarely gets fully utilized anyway, don't base your choice of rom on it. (and you can't get it on official roms like the 1.66)
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someone convinced me
i flashed tons of roms and radios but none seem to "activate" this hidden ram.
right now im on duttys HG ultimate with its preinstalled 2.08 radio (it said it would activate ram)
before i was running miri build 23549 with 2.06 radio and still nothing.
but than again, is it possible for a tmous leo to get this activated?
ttxcsabby said:
someone convinced me
i flashed tons of roms and radios but none seem to "activate" this hidden ram.
right now im on duttys HG ultimate with its preinstalled 2.08 radio (it said it would activate ram)
before i was running miri build 23549 with 2.06 radio and still nothing.
but than again, is it possible for a tmous leo to get this activated?
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It's not "fake" as it is actually hardware, and physically present in the hardware of the phone.
The 2.06 Radio itself doesn't enable it, nor does any other radio for that matter. It is a combination of the ROM with the settings modified and the Radio which allows the phone to access the memory that is physically installed in the European HD2, but blocked in these ROMs "officially."
To my knowledge, only a two Radios (from the TMOUS ROM) actually allow the access of the blocked memory by the ROM. 2.07 and 2.08 versions with 50 and not 51 in their string codes.
IF you were running Miri's with a 2.06 radio, you did not see it activated.
It is also important to remember that the 576MB of memory is not going to be free or available in its entirety, because the system takes a part for itself to run the graphics system, etc.
This has been discussed in much greater detail here in the forum. Search for the threads and see for yourself.
so which combination would activate it with a tmous rom?
http://htcpedia.com/duttys_leo_hg_v_1ab39398b85aebfae/soft/htc-leo-rom?page=2?page=2
im running this rom/radio
A 3rd thread.
448 or 576?[28/01][576 confirmed] - xda-developers
is it really advatage with hacked RAM size? - xda-developers
Mods?
that T-Mob 576mb is crap and chefs should stop cooking them couse if you like T-Mob rom's go and buy that idiotic phone,i would never put that crap on mine at all,i just love the originals rom's cooked before T-Mob come out,all i can see is 576mb rom
The 576 mb ram is for real. Believe or not it's your choice, but it has been proven several times over. However we have enough ram already and some cooks may choose not to use it. If you are going to cook ROM's for a TMOUS device then it is good to use the 576 RAM.
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A 3rd thread.
448 or 576?[28/01][576 confirmed] - xda-developers
is it really advatage with hacked RAM size? - xda-developers
Mods?
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HD2: HTC_Leo_WWE-1.66.405.2-djet-v0.93
when did you release this one mate
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HD2: HTC_Leo_WWE-1.66.405.2-djet-v0.93
when did you release this one mate
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2 months ago: HTC HD2: HTC_Leo_WWE-djet - 4PDA
It's mainly for Russian users but could be used by everyone with minor changes.
Can anyone recommend a rom that only enables the RAM and nothing else? is it hard to cook one myself?
Provided that the rom you want to use is the 576MB RAM one? I realize that the amount of ROM is different between the two models, but will that alone cause incompatibility between the ROM for the two models?
Thanks for any reply!
The biggest thing you have to watch for is the base and radio...if you're using a US T-Mobile HD2 you must use a ROM with a base of 2.XX (as opposed to 1.XX)...and you also don't want to use a ROM with a radio built in other than 2.08...
the answer is, , not sure. Certainly if it is to work it must be a 576 enabled rom, and the radio must be right, , , , if you're brave enough, do post back and let us know. (I wouldn't till i knew for sure)
Dont forget that when you say t8585 roms, many of the cooked roms are actually based on the tmo 2.1 rom.
Its mainly the radio that you have to take care about, which may brick your device.
Its better not to flash a ROM with radio included in it.
Don't flash any Radio especially those available in T8585 forum.
In other cases, it may be showing less RAM or less ROM only with some ROMs if they are not compatible.
Sorry I did use the search tool but couldn't find an answer... What are the differences between these as well as advantages/disadvantages of each? With so many ROMs available I'd like to have something more to help me choose.
Thanks
I'd like to know this as well. All these different versions and ROMS using different ones etc is confusing. Also, the HSPL versions.. all confusing!
Base 2.10 has an awful and distorted noise in phone calls and awful bluetooth management not to mention more power consuption, these are the main disatvantages from my point of view.
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I'd like to know this as well. All these different versions and ROMS using different ones etc is confusing. Also, the HSPL versions.. all confusing!
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A chef or somebody knowledgeable in cooking could answer this. The only thing I know for sure is that if you have HSPL (for the 1.43 stock roms), you can flash all base 2.10 roms and you can enable the 576 mb ram if you use a 2.07.50 or 2.08.50 radio because this what I got on my device as my signature states. Actually, I also managed to flash 2 1.72 roms, but I found them not to my liking so I stick to the 2.10 ones and I'm happy with them. Just to name a few: Astriaios, Energy, RTT Shock Star RTM, Leo firestorm, LIA Glass series, Ahen L6 series from xda, and from VIETPPC: Hoang An Leo, from PDAVIET: All, because they use only the 2.10 base. Most of these roms exist in 6.5 and 6.5.x so you guys will have the choice.
I stick to HSPL(1) because I think there is more choice in the 2.10 roms than in the 1.66 or 1.72 ones and because I don't want to limitate the choice of roms with HSPL2 for only a certain variety or roms (1.66 OR 1.72).
Hope that will help you guys to make a decision
Big thank to all the Chefs I mentioned above and to the others, you guys make all an awesome job!
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Base 2.10 has an awful and distorted noise in phone calls and awful bluetooth management not to mention more power consuption, these are the main disatvantages from my point of view.
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The noise distortion and the battery consumption are RADIO related issues (if your radio keeps on searching for a signal, it will drain your battery quickly), not rom except for a well-known program whom shortcut had to be deleted from the Start menu because it was creating battery drain, I think it was Ameba or Swype, but I'm not sure. As for the bluetooth management, it may be issues concerning the Voice commands, but for the data sending/receiving, I never had problems with any of the above mentioned roms, except if the chef uploaded a version with a problem and reuploaded another version later.
Radios 2.06, 2.07 and 2.09 are said not to be power angry.
Miri has just lauched a version of his ROM with both bases over at HTCPedia for us to test.
I've been following this and it seens that, indeed, 1.72 (along with radio 2.09, that is not compatible with 2.XX) is better in terms of battery life and signal.
2.XX with latest WM builds seens to be much faster, on the other side...
Is still partial conclusions...
So is it basically a case of better all around performance in 2.10 and better battery life and signal in 1.72?
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So is it basically a case of better all around performance in 2.10 and better battery life and signal in 1.72?
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Don't know yet.
It seens that, in some places, radio 2.09, wich is incompatible with 2.10 base, performs much better in terms of battery life and signal.
I've experienced it myself.
Regarding performance, I can't tell you for sure it's base related of WM build related.
At this moment, considering the same ROM with the two bases, like Miris, I would go with base 1.72 with radio 2.09, but that's for my region. Don't know if it applies to everybody.
Just as reference, here's Miri's 2.10 base thread, where people asked for a 1.72 version for testing: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1786
And here's 1.72 version with some valuable feedback: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=52190#post52190
I think this is the best case for testing, since it's almost the same ROMs, only with diferent bases and radios (because of compatibility)
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I stick to HSPL(1) because I think there is more choice in the 2.10 roms than in the 1.66 or 1.72 ones and because I don't want to limitate the choice of roms with HSPL2 for only a certain variety or roms (1.66 OR 1.72).
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How does HSPL2 limit you? If anything it gives you more choice. With HSPL1 you only get 1.42.hspl and while you can flash any rom with that hspl version, with HSPL2 you can choose between either 1.42.hspl, 1.66.hspl or 2.08.hspl and still flash any rom you want - so you aren't limited to only 1.66 or 1.72 based roms.
The advantages of HSPL2 is that supposedly by matching the hspl version to the rom you get a more stable combo according to Cotulla. Another benefit of HSPL2 is that in order to revert to the original spl version you just choose this from the tool. No need to flash a stock rom via sd card etc.
Hi im just looking for a rom which essentially is the same as the latest stock vodafone uk ROM but with the 576 RAM or something as close to possible as stock ROM but with the extra RAM. Does this exist? I have been hunting around but they all seem to be majorly different. Or can anyone make a rom based on the Vodafone ROM but with the the 576RAM unlocked?
Thanks
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Hi im just looking for a rom which essentially is the same as the latest stock vodafone uk ROM but with the 576 RAM or something as close to possible as stock ROM but with the extra RAM. Does this exist? I have been hunting around but they all seem to be majorly different. Or can anyone make a rom based on the Vodafone ROM but with the the 576RAM unlocked?
Thanks
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2.10 base: 576MB RAM, US version
1.66/1.72 base: normal RAM, European version
So you have to decide between more RAM or your UK ROM base.
Ok so what would be the main differences if I have the US based 2.01?
I am currently on 1.66. I plan on using SSPL by bepe to do the ROM upgrade which i beleive means i dont need to worry about radios?
I wouldnt mind the US based 2.01 if it performed and looked like a stock HTC ROM. I guess if I used the US ROM I wouldnt have the operator settings for MMS etc?
Thanks
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Ok so what would be the main differences if I have the US based 2.01?
I am currently on 1.66. I plan on using SSPL by bepe to do the ROM upgrade which i beleive means i dont need to worry about radios?
I wouldnt mind the US based 2.01 if it performed and looked like a stock HTC ROM. I guess if I used the US ROM I wouldnt have the operator settings for MMS etc?
Thanks
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Flash CleanEX ROM...it has 576mb of RAM Enabled, and it super fast! flash CleanEX HQ4.01 if you love WM6.5, and HyperROM or DsE ROM if you prefer WM6.5.x
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I am currently on 1.66. I plan on using SSPL by bepe to do the ROM upgrade which i beleive means i dont need to worry about radios?
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thats not what it means.
Flashing with sspl means you cant change the radio, because sspl isnt able to flash radios. So, if you choose to flash a rom that opens the 576, you wont get it anyway because you will still have your stock radio.
Why would the stock radio prevent the unlocking of the 576 RAM sorry Im abit of a novice at all this? So is what Im after impossible?
My concern with changing the radio is I wont choose the right one. I was hoping for a simple way of increasing the RAM because as it stands the phone gets bogged down quite easily and it doesnt matter wat tweaks and programs utilities I use the phone runs at 50+% RAM and I have many soft resets during a day. My Touch Pro didnt run anywhere near this high and I use very similar programs now as I did when I had that phone.
cheers
first of all id like to point out the extra ram makes close to no difference
you need a certain rom/radio combination in order for it to be enabled you don't need to know the details.
just download hspl2
go to the rom development thread and pick one you like with the 576mb ram patch enabled
read which radio is compatible with the rom and voila
UPDATE
by the way vodafone have actually released the latest vodafone uk rom 1.72 so you may want to take a look at that before you go through this process
As i said i am new to this but keen to learn, with the reference of it makes no difference using 180mb of 448 = 40% being used compared with 180mb of 576 = 31%, pretty big difference? ----Is the RAM shared with the program memory as I only seem to have 336mb RAM available?
Thanks for the advice on the latest voda update literally only put up the other day I will give it a try I need to hard reset whatever as something is causing a service.exe error when I boot.
I still wouldnt mind having the extra RAM just havent found a ROM out there by anyone else that hasnt been completely changed from the standard HTC style.
Again thanks for help
you only show 336 because the graphics chipset takes 128.(and so when you do unlock the 576 your useful ram will show 448.
you must change the radio because the unlock only works with rom and radio from the tmous range of roms (or cooked roms based on the tmous roms)
if you don't have a tmous phone then you have no worriesabout flashing radios.they will all work on your phone.(only ones with .50. in the version will unlock ram) it won't affect your phones ability to connect to your provider at all.
oh and the extra ram is nice but not at all needed.it's difficult to utilize what there is already.
hmmm well seems like i have the duff radio:
Os version: 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manilla: 2.5.19211619.0
ROM: 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE
Radio:2.06.51.07
Protocol:15.30.50.07U
If its hard to utilize whats available why does mine run at 50% RAM all the time and open a couple of programs to run in the back ground (e.g. facebook, opera, calculator) it goes to like 70% and then get really slow. My touch pro was never like that
Im not having ago im just frustrated, i thought the HD2 was going to be a massive step up in performance.
adding more ram only speeds things up if you are currently running at 100%
say you have 1gb ram and it runs at 50% used. you add another gig, nothing will change except now it will run at 25% used. it won't run faster.
more ram means doing more, not doing the same thing faster.
why do you say your radio is duff? what doesn't it do that you think it should?
no problem.you SHOULD query everything. its all very well being given the answer, but if you understand it too then so much the better!
This link: http://www.4shared.com/dir/22189940/b8552fa0/Shipped_Leo_ROMs.html shows the latest Shipped ROM being Leo 2.10.
That's strange, the XDA WIKI doesn't show such shipped rom with such version!
So I am totally confused here.
Currently I have this ROM installed : Worldwide 1.66.405.2
(RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_1.66.405.2_Radio_Signed_15.30.50.07U_2.06.51.07_Ship.exe)
But I am wondering if there is a MORE RECENT SHIPPED ROM than that?
And what are the enhancments. Any new programs or stuff in it?
Seems ROM 1.66.405.2 which I have is quite old, didn't HTC release anything newer and improved / better performing after that ?
Would appreciate you guys replies.
Mobiler
ROMs for TMob USA devices come with a 2.xx version - this base is frequently used by chefs for cooking custom ROMs.
European and ROW HD2´s (as of today) are still at 1.6x/1.7x (depending on the area where the device is bought).
As you are not really more specific about some key details, this is the best answer I can give.
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ROMs for TMob USA devices come with a 2.xx version - this base is frequently used by chefs for cooking custom ROMs.
European and ROW HD2´s (as of today) are still at 1.6x/1.7x (depending on the area where the device is bought).
As you are not really more specific about some key details, this is the best answer I can give.
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Hey, thanks alot for the reply, I appreciate it.
My current ROM as I wrote is WWE 1.66.405.2. No language specific.
I am just wondering if using the 1.7 or 2.10 have improvments in terms of speed, bug fixes or functionality over the WWE 1.66.405.2 which I currently have. Or maybe they would actually make my device more 'T-Mobilish' giving a bunch of non usefull stuff and overhead.
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Hey, thanks alot for the reply, I appreciate it.
My current ROM as I wrote is WWE 1.66.405.2. No language specific.
I am just wondering if using the 1.7 or 2.10 have improvments in terms of speed, bug fixes or functionality over the WWE 1.66.405.2 which I currently have. Or maybe they would actually make my device more 'T-Mobilish' giving a bunch of non usefull stuff and overhead.
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Hey mate I think it goes like this, TMOUS and EU ROM's only differ in whats for your device, so you are expressing you use 1.66 meaning you have a European base on you phone so the highest in the base 1.xx is what your searching for. As for whether the latest is the best that's another question I cant answer.
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Hey, thanks alot for the reply, I appreciate it.
My current ROM as I wrote is WWE 1.66.405.2. No language specific.
I am just wondering if using the 1.7 or 2.10 have improvments in terms of speed, bug fixes or functionality over the WWE 1.66.405.2 which I currently have. Or maybe they would actually make my device more 'T-Mobilish' giving a bunch of non usefull stuff and overhead.
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If you don't have a TMOUS device, so you better not install a TMOUS ROM, due to radio and SPL differences.
i think 1.72 based (official) ROMs could have some improvements over 1.66, but mainly they are the same... only 1.72 are released a bit later for branded devices (1.72 ROMs carry the 1.66 SPL).
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If you don't have a TMOUS device, so you better not install a TMOUS ROM, due to radio and SPL differences.
i think 1.72 based (official) ROMs could have some improvements over 1.66, but mainly they are the same... only 1.72 are released a bit later for branded devices (1.72 ROMs carry the 1.66 SPL).
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Thanks. I saw some snapshots of HD2 Running newer ROMs (I think above 2.0) and they had another home tab called 'Documents' I would call this is a good improvement over the 1.66 I have which doesn't have Documents tab. So I guess that the 2.0 (Tmobile ??) Roms are more improved. Pitty Euro versions don't have that. But since you warned against putting t-mobile US rom on a european device I will just wait.
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Thanks. I saw some snapshots of HD2 Running newer ROMs (I think above 2.0) and they had another home tab called 'Documents' I would call this is a good improvement over the 1.66 I have which doesn't have Documents tab. So I guess that the 2.0 (Tmobile ??) Roms are more improved. Pitty Euro versions don't have that. But since you warned against putting t-mobile US rom on a european device I will just wait.
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some custom roms, that run very well on non TMOUS devices (all over the world) do have the document tab incorporated (see my signature )
all the roms and radios, regular and tmous, cooked or ship, will work just fine on the normal hd2. its only tmous users that can't flash our roms, we can flash theirs.
the 1.7 rom seems to be just 1.66 with the updates already applied.(though i'm no expert on that)
Does anyone know what the AUS T9193 handset SPL allows?
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Does anyone know what the AUS T9193 handset SPL allows?
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it allows everything, no one has reported any problem running the highest ver roms/radios on 1.42.hspl
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it allows everything, no one has reported any problem running the highest ver roms/radios on 1.42.hspl
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Wow it's pretty cool, why is the Telstra version always more compatible and in the HD case it was reported to be much more stable, is it because it is released 6+ months after US?
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Wow it's pretty cool, why is the Telstra version always more compatible and in the HD case it was reported to be much more stable, is it because it is released 6+ months after US?
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ermm, , , us version came out way after telstra, telstra is identical to euro/asia hd2, All roms will work on any spl on telstra and euro.
you are on 1.42.hspl because hspl2 doesnt work on telstra, nothing to do with stability or compatibility. if anything its less compatible than the euro/asia, cos teh euro can take all spl and all roms, including tmous, everything.
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ermm, , , us version came out way after telstra, telstra is identical to euro/asia hd2, All roms will work on any spl on telstra and euro.
you are on 1.42.hspl because hspl2 doesnt work on telstra, nothing to do with stability or compatibility. if anything its less compatible than the euro/asia, cos teh euro can take all spl and all roms, including tmous, everything.
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Yes I noticed after that it meant the Euro was still more compatible, which indeed was the first release? Then to AUS and then to US. Yes sorry I was thinking of the HD which was much delayed.