someone convinced me
i flashed tons of roms and radios but none seem to "activate" this hidden ram.
right now im on duttys HG ultimate with its preinstalled 2.08 radio (it said it would activate ram)
before i was running miri build 23549 with 2.06 radio and still nothing.
but than again, is it possible for a tmous leo to get this activated?
ttxcsabby said:
someone convinced me
i flashed tons of roms and radios but none seem to "activate" this hidden ram.
right now im on duttys HG ultimate with its preinstalled 2.08 radio (it said it would activate ram)
before i was running miri build 23549 with 2.06 radio and still nothing.
but than again, is it possible for a tmous leo to get this activated?
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It's not "fake" as it is actually hardware, and physically present in the hardware of the phone.
The 2.06 Radio itself doesn't enable it, nor does any other radio for that matter. It is a combination of the ROM with the settings modified and the Radio which allows the phone to access the memory that is physically installed in the European HD2, but blocked in these ROMs "officially."
To my knowledge, only a two Radios (from the TMOUS ROM) actually allow the access of the blocked memory by the ROM. 2.07 and 2.08 versions with 50 and not 51 in their string codes.
IF you were running Miri's with a 2.06 radio, you did not see it activated.
It is also important to remember that the 576MB of memory is not going to be free or available in its entirety, because the system takes a part for itself to run the graphics system, etc.
This has been discussed in much greater detail here in the forum. Search for the threads and see for yourself.
so which combination would activate it with a tmous rom?
http://htcpedia.com/duttys_leo_hg_v_1ab39398b85aebfae/soft/htc-leo-rom?page=2?page=2
im running this rom/radio
A 3rd thread.
448 or 576?[28/01][576 confirmed] - xda-developers
is it really advatage with hacked RAM size? - xda-developers
Mods?
that T-Mob 576mb is crap and chefs should stop cooking them couse if you like T-Mob rom's go and buy that idiotic phone,i would never put that crap on mine at all,i just love the originals rom's cooked before T-Mob come out,all i can see is 576mb rom
The 576 mb ram is for real. Believe or not it's your choice, but it has been proven several times over. However we have enough ram already and some cooks may choose not to use it. If you are going to cook ROM's for a TMOUS device then it is good to use the 576 RAM.
djet said:
A 3rd thread.
448 or 576?[28/01][576 confirmed] - xda-developers
is it really advatage with hacked RAM size? - xda-developers
Mods?
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HD2: HTC_Leo_WWE-1.66.405.2-djet-v0.93
when did you release this one mate
turborider said:
HD2: HTC_Leo_WWE-1.66.405.2-djet-v0.93
when did you release this one mate
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2 months ago: HTC HD2: HTC_Leo_WWE-djet - 4PDA
It's mainly for Russian users but could be used by everyone with minor changes.
Can anyone recommend a rom that only enables the RAM and nothing else? is it hard to cook one myself?
Related
HI,
I am having strange issues with my phone and so far ANY ROM that is versioned 2.07 with 576 RAM (using any Radio above v2.07+).
Not sure if I have one of the first set of phones available from the UK (bout from mobiles direct with no SIM Locks or branding) that may not physically have 576 RAM on board or something, but if I install any rom that enables the addiotnaon RAM (tried latest PDAViet, L26 and XannyTech) so far with any manilla ver or XIP build I get random lockups, manilla crashes etc.
If I go back to old PDAVIET V7 without 576mb ram enabled, or more recently Energy rom based on 23929 which is also only has 448 RAM enabled all is fine and stable.
Could I be unlucky enough to have a early build and therefore fails with a 576mb RAM hack or is there any 2.07 ROMs out there that doesn't force 576mb (or works with radios lower that 2.07+) I can try to prove the point?
Anyone else having major stabilty issues (randon soft resets/unsrepsive/manilla crash and reload) if they enable 576mb RAM???
Cheers
RipNard
I think you should have first flashed the new Radio..
From your post it isnt clear - are you flashing the radio as well? because radios arent included in the cooked roms, you flash them yourself.
Also, if you have flashed a fair number of different roms and are getting instability, it might be time to mtty your device for a nice clean restart.
edit - OK, MOST cooked roms dont include a radio.
I have tried with flashing radio 2.07.50.27 and 2.08.50.05 and 2.08.50.08 both before installing ROM (L26and PDAVIET include radio in ROM update), as part of the ROM and after the ROM. Still the same.
Gonna try the new Artemis one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580 as I have just noticed it has ROM 2.07 with Win 6.5.5 but NO RAM tweak
Will report back
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From your post it isnt clear - are you flashing the radio as well? because radios arent included in the cooked roms, you flash them yourself.
Also, if you have flashed a fair number of different roms and are getting instability, it might be time to mtty your device for a nice clean restart.
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Sounds interesting - how do you go about doing that? Must have flashed about 15 times or so since new!
ripnard said:
Sounds interesting - how do you go about doing that? Must have flashed about 15 times or so since new!
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Have a read of the mtty sticky in the rom development thread, and there is a step by step thats worth a read HERE
Well,
After installing the Artemis ROM I still get random crashes and Manilla restarts and config confirms its only 448mb RAM with 2.08.50.08 radio installed (radio prior to ROM install).
Before I tried the new ROM, I also tried som 2.06 radios with the same issues.
So its not the RAM tweak, but may be the 2.07 ROM as previous PDAVIET ROMs were based on 2.02 and Energy's - which also works fine - is based on 1.66.
Ill try MTTY which it sounds like it may fix the issues.
Dont forget looking at the memory available for programs it will only show 448mb on a 576 rom because the graphics card resevres 128mb.
In a non 576 enabled rom you would only see 320 available for programs
Oh well, even after running MTTY and flashing from SD it still apears my phone hates 2.07 based ROMs. So back to 1.66 for now
I had the same issues and at the end it turned out to be my SD card making all the trouble. I have 16 gb card class 2 (slow) and had to format it with external card reader (FAT16, 16kb cluster) to gain more speed....
anomandrus - Damn! Thanks! Never even thought of that.
I have a 16gb Class 2 card too which works fine with older ROMS but i believe can cause issue with the latest. Taking it out prior to boot stops the random freezing or reboots
Many thanks! Oh and thanks samsamuel for pointing me to the MTTY stuff. At least I know I now have a clean build as well
anomandrus said:
I had the same issues and at the end it turned out to be my SD card making all the trouble. I have 16 gb card class 2 (slow) and had to format it with external card reader (FAT16, 16kb cluster) to gain more speed....
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anomandrus - how did you format your 16gb card to fat16? The best I can do with xp or vista/win7 is fat32 with 16k! all points to fat16 =<2gb drives???
Hi guys,
i have a pre-release of HTC HD2. In the hardware settings i notice that i have 320 MB (RAM size).
Actually i have the duttys ROM and i would like to know if there's a possibility to enable the 576 MB (RAM size).
If yes how is it possible?
Thanks in advance.
Niccolo
Well I would also like to know that on T8585 can we enable the 576MB RAM..!!!
Thanks..!!!
Nic:
What RAM does it say in 'Hardware information'?
Hi,
RAM Size=320MB (Hardware information).
Actually i installed the radio 2.08 and the Duttys ROM.
Thanks in advance
niccolog71 said:
Hi,
RAM Size=320MB (Hardware information).
Actually i installed the radio 2.08 and the Duttys ROM.
Thanks in advance
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and what it shows now after inistllation of the dutty and the radio is it still 320
I have a t8585 (O2 hd2) with 448Mb RAM (after installing some stuff).
Hi guys,
after the installation of "Duttys_LEO_Sense_2.5_5.2.23544.5.5.0_2.10_HG_Ultimate_Radio_2.08.50.8.2_V1.1_WWE" i have in the hardware information always 320MB (RAM Size).
So i'm thinking that it's not possible to unlock hidden memory (if there's), in my model (i have a pre-release of HD2).
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks again
Niccolo
niccolog71 said:
Hi guys,
after the installation of "Duttys_LEO_Sense_2.5_5.2.23544.5.5.0_2.10_HG_Ultimate_Radio_2.08.50.8.2_V1.1_WWE" i have in the hardware information always 320MB (RAM Size).
So i'm thinking that it's not possible to unlock hidden memory (if there's), in my model (i have a pre-release of HD2).
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks again
Niccolo
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may be it comes with 320 ram only but i have heared that flashing newer radios enable 448 of ram
niccolog71 said:
Hi guys,
i have a pre-release of HTC HD2. In the hardware settings i notice that i have 320 MB (RAM size).
Actually i have the duttys ROM and i would like to know if there's a possibility to enable the 576 MB (RAM size).
If yes how is it possible?
Thanks in advance.
Niccolo
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A Pre-Release?
Also there are guides on how to obtain the full RAM.
I have the same device T8585 with 448 MB Ram - on the hardware info page -
But it seems to work with only 336MB Ram on the Task Manager page :/
H3ALY said:
A Pre-Release?
Also there are guides on how to obtain the full RAM.
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I haven't found anything that solves the situation.
I tried many ROMs (with 576 enabled), but i always have in the hardware information 320MB (RAM Size). So if you know some link, documents, ROM, please send me detail.
Thanks in advance.
Niccolo
Alright stock hd2 should have 448 ram on it no matter what, i had rom 1.43 and i had 448mb ram now im using Energy's rom and i have 576 ram flashed alot of other roms with 576ram enabled and i havent got any probs.
Be sure to flash the correct Radio/Rom cuz from what ive read on the forums only a few radio's enable 576mb ram hope this helps xD
I have the following situation (Software Information)
OS version: 5.2.21895 (21895.5.0.90)
Manila version: 2.5.20121412.1
ROM version: Dutyys HG Ultimate V1.1 WWE
Radio Version: 2.08.50.08_2
Protocol version: 15.34.50.07U
Resuming i installed the Duttys ROM that contains all the features for the 576MB enabled but in the Hardware infromation i always have 320MB (RAM size).
Thanks
Niccolo
niccolog71 said:
I have the following situation (Software Information)
OS version: 5.2.21895 (21895.5.0.90)
Manila version: 2.5.20121412.1
ROM version: Dutyys HG Ultimate V1.1 WWE
Radio Version: 2.08.50.08_2
Protocol version: 15.34.50.07U
Resuming i installed the Duttys ROM that contains all the features for the 576MB enabled but in the Hardware infromation i always have 320MB (RAM size).
Thanks
Niccolo
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Humm considering the rom u have and radio it should show u 576mb ram really strange.
Try flashing another rom with ram enabled to test it, if not mayb its just not showing it but the ram is actually enabled
and use MTTY(u can find the sticky in Rom Dev thread) between flashing so u have a clean base.
I have tested many ROMs that says 576MB enabled but the result was always the same (320MB in RAM Size).
Thanks
Niccolo
niccolog71 said:
I have tested many ROMs that says 576MB enabled but the result was always the same (320MB in RAM Size).
Thanks
Niccolo
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may be you need to upgrade it to 448 first then to 576 , try this
hoss_n2 said:
may be you need to upgrade it to 448 first then to 576 , try this
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There is no upgrade to 448 as this is the standard. If you really got the pre-release some users could see in early videos of the HD2 then this is a hardware-issue which can not be fixed/improved. Only chance i see is to contact HTCs RepairService and ask if a physical upgrade is possible and what it would cost... Sorry Mate
BTW: Where did you get that pre-release ?
Elburna,
after many ROMs installed i think that the only solution is to contact HTC and ask if a physical upgrade is possible.
Thanks
Niccolo
The reason to that your only seeing 320/336MB of ram is because HD2 uses 128MB for graphics/graphical acceleration.
So 320+128=448
But if there is a way to further increase the amount of ram to 576MB even if you bought the 448MB edition then i would like to hear about it to!
EDIT: LOL, found just seconds after writing this post that you can flash the newest 2.10 Radio ROM to enable 576MB, but i think that you'll have to install a new Custom ROM to make use of the 576MBs . But you will still have 128MB of the 576MB used to graphics. But there might be custom rom that enables full usage of the 576MBs.
LaZi3b0y said:
The reason to that your only seeing 320/336MB of ram is because HD2 uses 128MB for graphics/graphical acceleration.
So 320+128=448
But if there is a way to further increase the amount of ram to 576MB even if you bought the 448MB edition then i would like to hear about it to!
EDIT: LOL, found just seconds after writing this post that you can flash the newest 2.10 Radio ROM to enable 576MB, but i think that you'll have to install a new Custom ROM to make use of the 576MBs . But you will still have 128MB of the 576MB used to graphics. But there might be custom rom that enables full usage of the 576MBs.
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I got an HTC Pro Three too, the pre release version of HD2.
So you mean, this device has 448mb too? its just that 320MB is the allocated RAM to the user, and the 128MB are for graphics? that's odd, because currently with the latest Artemis ROM, i do have maximum of 60 to 65MB of free RAM available (this rom has the highest free ram i have ever tried) which limits my device's activities, i can't do multi taking that much.
So with the 448MB HD2 (official), there is also a hidden RAM of 128MB so that it can be unlocked and make use all (576MB) of the 128MB, which i assume is also dedicated for graphics. ( 448 + 128 = 576MB ).
I think that these two devices are different in terms of RAM (HD2 and the pre release of HD2).
For the HD2, hacking the ROM and using 2.06, 2.07 and 2.08 (2.10) radio versions will make the 576MB free to the user, thus eliminating the rom to dedicate the 128MB to graphics.
While for the HD2 Pre Release (HTC Pro Three), has a total of 320MB of RAM, 128MB is dedicated to the video and hidden from the user. I would like to think also that the radio versions mentioned above will be able to unlock the hidden 128MB, but IMO, there should be a different rom hack for this HTC Pro Three, as the hack applied on the HD2 (448MB ) won't apply here.
Any tips from the cooks how to make the rom for hd2 (448mb) 576MB ram compatible? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I got my HTC HD2 yesterday and i now know what love feels like.
My question is what is the latest radio's and roms for o2?
My handset is currently running rom 1.43.206.4 and radio version 2.04.50.22_2
Any advise will be greatly appriciated.
there are no updates for o2 yet.
I can highly recommend hspl2 your phone and install the wwe 1.66 rom.
(read the stickies in the rom development section)
there was supposed to be a new rom coming at the end march but nothing happened. i was told by a customer services guy that there were problems with the rom and it had been delayed.
unfortunately the version you currently have is the latest, for o2 UK any way.
why dont you flash another ROM theyr miles better, plus the o2 stock rom is floating about in the rom dev area so you can reflash if incase you return your phone!
Thanks for the tips guys. I will hspl2 it soon, ive got enough experiance from doing my xperia every other day lol. Which radio version is the best to use?
I've not really noticed much difference across the radios, im on 2.07.50 at the mo, in west yorks, and ive used the 2.08 one too. The only one i noticed a difference with was 2.09 but i use a 576 rom which it doesnt work with, so i only used it for a day.
Thanks. Last question, what is the diffrence between 576 roms etc? This is what has left me scatching my head.
I'd recommend radio 2.09 which I'm on, it's the best so far I've found and I've used all of them on my O2 HD2. I'm based in the Buckinghamshire area and it does me well round here.
jagger2k said:
Thanks. Last question, what is the diffrence between 576 roms etc? This is what has left me scatching my head.
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the leo we all have (not tmous) have 576 meg of ram, but for whatever reason htc decided to hide 128 meg.
the leaked tmous roms a few months ago unlocked that ram, so now, if you flash a rom based on the 2.10 roms and a matching radio you will get 576 meg ram.
to be honest the ram rarely gets fully utilized anyway, don't base your choice of rom on it. (and you can't get it on official roms like the 1.66)
Hi im just looking for a rom which essentially is the same as the latest stock vodafone uk ROM but with the 576 RAM or something as close to possible as stock ROM but with the extra RAM. Does this exist? I have been hunting around but they all seem to be majorly different. Or can anyone make a rom based on the Vodafone ROM but with the the 576RAM unlocked?
Thanks
fillip said:
Hi im just looking for a rom which essentially is the same as the latest stock vodafone uk ROM but with the 576 RAM or something as close to possible as stock ROM but with the extra RAM. Does this exist? I have been hunting around but they all seem to be majorly different. Or can anyone make a rom based on the Vodafone ROM but with the the 576RAM unlocked?
Thanks
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2.10 base: 576MB RAM, US version
1.66/1.72 base: normal RAM, European version
So you have to decide between more RAM or your UK ROM base.
Ok so what would be the main differences if I have the US based 2.01?
I am currently on 1.66. I plan on using SSPL by bepe to do the ROM upgrade which i beleive means i dont need to worry about radios?
I wouldnt mind the US based 2.01 if it performed and looked like a stock HTC ROM. I guess if I used the US ROM I wouldnt have the operator settings for MMS etc?
Thanks
fillip said:
Ok so what would be the main differences if I have the US based 2.01?
I am currently on 1.66. I plan on using SSPL by bepe to do the ROM upgrade which i beleive means i dont need to worry about radios?
I wouldnt mind the US based 2.01 if it performed and looked like a stock HTC ROM. I guess if I used the US ROM I wouldnt have the operator settings for MMS etc?
Thanks
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Flash CleanEX ROM...it has 576mb of RAM Enabled, and it super fast! flash CleanEX HQ4.01 if you love WM6.5, and HyperROM or DsE ROM if you prefer WM6.5.x
fillip said:
I am currently on 1.66. I plan on using SSPL by bepe to do the ROM upgrade which i beleive means i dont need to worry about radios?
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thats not what it means.
Flashing with sspl means you cant change the radio, because sspl isnt able to flash radios. So, if you choose to flash a rom that opens the 576, you wont get it anyway because you will still have your stock radio.
Why would the stock radio prevent the unlocking of the 576 RAM sorry Im abit of a novice at all this? So is what Im after impossible?
My concern with changing the radio is I wont choose the right one. I was hoping for a simple way of increasing the RAM because as it stands the phone gets bogged down quite easily and it doesnt matter wat tweaks and programs utilities I use the phone runs at 50+% RAM and I have many soft resets during a day. My Touch Pro didnt run anywhere near this high and I use very similar programs now as I did when I had that phone.
cheers
first of all id like to point out the extra ram makes close to no difference
you need a certain rom/radio combination in order for it to be enabled you don't need to know the details.
just download hspl2
go to the rom development thread and pick one you like with the 576mb ram patch enabled
read which radio is compatible with the rom and voila
UPDATE
by the way vodafone have actually released the latest vodafone uk rom 1.72 so you may want to take a look at that before you go through this process
As i said i am new to this but keen to learn, with the reference of it makes no difference using 180mb of 448 = 40% being used compared with 180mb of 576 = 31%, pretty big difference? ----Is the RAM shared with the program memory as I only seem to have 336mb RAM available?
Thanks for the advice on the latest voda update literally only put up the other day I will give it a try I need to hard reset whatever as something is causing a service.exe error when I boot.
I still wouldnt mind having the extra RAM just havent found a ROM out there by anyone else that hasnt been completely changed from the standard HTC style.
Again thanks for help
you only show 336 because the graphics chipset takes 128.(and so when you do unlock the 576 your useful ram will show 448.
you must change the radio because the unlock only works with rom and radio from the tmous range of roms (or cooked roms based on the tmous roms)
if you don't have a tmous phone then you have no worriesabout flashing radios.they will all work on your phone.(only ones with .50. in the version will unlock ram) it won't affect your phones ability to connect to your provider at all.
oh and the extra ram is nice but not at all needed.it's difficult to utilize what there is already.
hmmm well seems like i have the duff radio:
Os version: 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manilla: 2.5.19211619.0
ROM: 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE
Radio:2.06.51.07
Protocol:15.30.50.07U
If its hard to utilize whats available why does mine run at 50% RAM all the time and open a couple of programs to run in the back ground (e.g. facebook, opera, calculator) it goes to like 70% and then get really slow. My touch pro was never like that
Im not having ago im just frustrated, i thought the HD2 was going to be a massive step up in performance.
adding more ram only speeds things up if you are currently running at 100%
say you have 1gb ram and it runs at 50% used. you add another gig, nothing will change except now it will run at 25% used. it won't run faster.
more ram means doing more, not doing the same thing faster.
why do you say your radio is duff? what doesn't it do that you think it should?
no problem.you SHOULD query everything. its all very well being given the answer, but if you understand it too then so much the better!
I have searched and searched and for some reason I can't find the answer.
I would like to try out the new WP7, but I need a radio that suports 576 of RAM.
Specs:
Stock T-mobile US
Radio 2.15.50.14
I have done nothing to the phone yet and don't want to screw it up and have my wife yelling at me. (and if I screw my phone up, trust me she will yell for days) So before I just did it I thouhgt I would ask.
And yes, I really did search before I asked. Sorry but I couldn't find the answer.
any t-mobile us radios support 576 of ram, so you are good to go.
I have a 576 MB RAM HD2 running WP7 and I am using the same Radio as you.
Just out of interest, are you sure your HD2 is not the T-Mobile 1024 MB model?
After looking I do have the 1024, So that means that I will have no issues?
how_weird said:
After looking I do have the 1024, So that means that I will have no issues?
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wp7 works but only uses 512mb of rom...
With a TMO US HD2 you have 1024MB ROM, and 576MB RAM.
any radio above 2.08 supports 576 ram..that is why we need radio above 2.08 even to run android...............your tmous well supports this and has 576mb ram enabled...so go ahead flash hspl and android nand / wp7, enjoy
Is this true of the UK HD2 as well?
So any radio above 2.08 will support 576 RAM, even non-us tmobile versions?
Thanks a lot
brunswick said:
Is this true of the UK HD2 as well?
So any radio above 2.08 will support 576 RAM, even non-us tmobile versions?
Thanks a lot
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Yes any 2.08 or higher Radio will enable the 576 MB of ram on a EU HD2.
will just flashing to the newer radio enable the higher ram capacity to be unlocked using the stock win mobile 6.5 rom? or does a custom rom also have to be used in conjunction with the updated radio rom?
slybunda said:
will just flashing to the newer radio enable the higher ram capacity to be unlocked using the stock win mobile 6.5 rom? or does a custom rom also have to be used in conjunction with the updated radio rom?
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The combination of a Radio of 2.08 or higher and a TMOUS Windows Mobile stock ROMs or TMOUS based custom Windows Mobile ROMs, or MAGLDR 1.13 enables the 576 MB of RAM.
thanks for the reply, is there any problem using the newer radio rom or the TMOUS on a UK HD2, i plan on using the phone with my UK T-Mobile carrier.
only tmous owners must be careful, our regular hd2s can take any radio, any rom. Only tmous must never flash a regular radio.