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Picked up a an HD2 Last night, couple questions...

How many different models are out? How to identify which i have? Whats the hottest rom out? Im coming from a Touch Pro from alltel to T-Mobile, any heads up is much appreciated....

cbmm said:
How many different models are out? How to identify which i have? Whats the hottest rom out? Im coming from a Touch Pro from alltel to T-Mobile, any heads up is much appreciated....
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if the send key is green, you have a tmous.
If it came from tmous, then its a tmous
If you have it working with 3g on tmo usa then it can ONLY be a tmous.

and there's only two models...the tmo us, and the euro version (less memory and a slight bit shorter than the tmo model...plus crucial differences in ROM compatibility).
The thread linked below is where you should really start....go through it at length, check out all the links. After you've done that, then make a list of questions you still haven't seen answers to, and come back and post any that are left
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663845

I'm a huge fan of Kumars 2.0 rom. Its excellent, super stable, and very fast. Plus he's working on new builds based off of the 2.13

sirphunkee said:
and there's only two models...the tmo us, and the euro version (less memory and a slight bit shorter than the tmo model...plus crucial differences in ROM compatibility).
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Three actually. We can't forget the T9193 Telstra edition, which is identical to the European T8585 except for NextG branding and 850/2100MHz HSDPA.

friend'scatdied said:
Three actually. We can't forget the T9193 Telstra edition, which is identical to the European T8585 except for NextG branding and 850/2100MHz HSDPA.
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That is correct....we can't, but I often do anyway

Can you post your stock ROM version? is it 2.10 or 2.13?

2.10 was the original rom 2.13 is the updated version released on 5/13.

want to buy a HD2.Help!!

I know that there are two version for HD2:T version and htc version.The T version's RAM and ROM is larger than the htc's.But I wonder why the T version's price is cheaper than the htc's.And some people told me that the T version is unstable and can't install some ROM.(By the way,I'm from China.If I buy the HD2,I need brushing machine.)
I'm hesitated for a long time:which version should I buy?
So,what's your guys' opinion?

The t-mobile version is cheaper because t-mobile lowers the price for starting a 2 year service contract. The import (I'm in the US) version is purchased without a contract and is therefore unsubsidized. From what I've gathered the two variations are nearly identical in performance, build quality etc.

Thanks!This is my first oversea thread and I'm so glad that you give me a reply!

I thought that the T-Mobile HD2 was the one sold in the US and the other HD2 is the one sold in the rest of the world. Correct me if I'm wrong but they are pretty much the same except slight size and memory changes.

yeoldgreat1 said:
I thought that the T-Mobile HD2 was the one sold in the US and the other HD2 is the one sold in the rest of the world. Correct me if I'm wrong but they are pretty much the same except slight size and memory changes.
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T-Mobile is just the branding nothing more nothing less maybe the SD card is diff but I have the T-Mobile UK version there no different then any other HD2

rexzooly said:
T-Mobile is just the branding nothing more nothing less maybe the SD card is diff but I have the T-Mobile UK version there no different then any other HD2
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The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.

rp-x1 said:
The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.
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Well FFFFFFFFF to them lol

rp-x1 said:
The UK one is the same as everyone's except the T-Mobile US model.
The US T-Mobile HD2 has a similar spec to the rest of the world, except it has a larger on-board memory (1Gb I believe) and an 'unlocked' larger RAM.
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Actually that is not entirely accurate , the TMOUS has a different radio, as do some of the EU models , for instance if you want to use one on AT&T 3G in the states, you need the telstra model from OZ, as it supports the WCDMA 850 band , the US(TMO) version only supports 1700/2100 WCDMA for 3G.
Most all will work on all Providers , using standard GSM/EDGE freqs but not on 3G.
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It seems though AT&T is cracking down on NON-AT&T devices though ....

watcher64 said:
Actually that is not entirely accurate , the TMOUS has a different radio, as do some of the EU models , for instance if you want to use one on AT&T 3G in the states, you need the telstra model from OZ, as it supports the WCDMA 850 band , the US(TMO) version only supports 1700/2100 WCDMA for 3G.
Most all will work on all Providers , using standard GSM/EDGE freqs but not on 3G.
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Thanks for the details maybe I should get my hands on a US one for a hands on check

Can't t-mobile hd2 use roms for leo hd2??

I'm about to buy hd2 but a shop only sells t-mobile hd2.
I'm wondering if I can use the roms for leo hd2.

You can use custom roms found here on XDA on a tmobile HD2.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App

you can use MOST custom roms on the tmous.
@OP the tmous will only take roms that are v 2.x or higher, so that means none of the non tmous stock roms (which include a deadly radio anyway) and no cooked roms that are based on 1.x base roms. Read the roms thread, they generally cleary say that they are tmous compatible, most are.

Oh , thank you for good information
Then, t-mobile one is faster than international one? since it has 1 gb rom and 512 mb ram

I flash whatever ROM I find.... Since the onces that are not cmopatible with th US Version would normally have something like this at the top of the post
DOES NOT WORK ON THE US HD2 or something...
So i'll avoid those.... But it helps to read the entire post, .50 radios are compatible. any other Radio version wont work...
Just a thought.... Most rom are just that...ROMs not a combination of (ROM/Radio) like the ones issued from T-Mobile and HTC
Edit: All the HTC HD2 / LEOs are the Similar in Speed.. The only major difference is the ROM(storage) Spaced Where as the US Version had 1G all the others only have 512MB

hakuchi18v said:
Edit: All the HTC HD2 / LEOs are the Similar in Speed.. The only major difference is the ROM(storage) Spaced Where as the US Version had 1G all the others only have 512MB
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You forgot one major factor....
If you live in USA you'll most definitely want the T-Mobile edition anyway because the international version won't give you 3G/HSPA+. That's if you plan on purchasing the data plan.

T-Mobile US 3G/H requires the 1700/2100 Frequency

jorkobe23 said:
Then, t-mobile one is faster than international one? since it has 1 gb rom and 512 mb ram
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no, a bigger fuel tank doesn't make a car go faster,,,, morerom just means more storage, not more speed.
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You forgot one major factor....
If you live in USA you'll most definitely want the T-Mobile edition anyway because the international version won't give you 3G/HSPA+.
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unless you are on at&t in which case you want the international version.

Tmo HD2 in uk

In a nutshell, would a Tmobile US HD2 work in the UK under the virgin network?
I've been looking at the frequency that virgin's running at and the supported list for the T9193, and I just want to confirm that it should work before I buy it.
Oh, and does the US version come with the AUO Display by any chance?

It will of course need to be unlocked/sim free and to get the hsdpa/3G connection will need to support that.
As you have done some of the homework I expect by now you'll know

johnerz said:
It will of course need to be unlocked/sim free and to get the hsdpa/3G connection will need to support that.
As you have done some of the homework I expect by now you'll know
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I won't need to because most of the ones I've found on sale are already unlocked, so this would work?

I've always wanted to know,,, since the tmous network uses aws, meaning it uses both it's available utms bands, 1700 and 2100, one for up, one for down, and everyone else uses one band for both, 2100 in this case, is the tmous radio hardware capable of using one band for both?
(Also, wasn't clear from your post, but you know the t9193 is the telstra model, not tmous, right?)

samsamuel said:
(Also, wasn't clear from your post, but you know the t9193 is the telstra model, not tmous, right?)
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Actually, I didn't, I just assumed T9193 was the US version.

Hehe, lucky you didn't impulse buy then eh?
There would be no benefit in bringing a t9193 to the UK, since it is identical to the regular hd2( commonly called the t8585, but see below) with the exception of the 850/2100 bands instead of 900/2100, and a tiny amount of case branding.
The tmous appears to carry the same t8585 designation as the regular hd2, although it never seems to be referenced as such anywhere, and Googling t8585 always brings up the regular, never the tmous.

samsamuel said:
Hehe, lucky you didn't impulse buy then eh?
There would be no benefit in bringing a t9193 to the UK, since it is identical to the regular hd2( commonly called the t8585, but see below) with the exception of the 850/2100 bands instead of 900/2100, and a tiny amount of case branding.
The tmous appears to carry the same t8585 designation as the regular hd2, although it never seems to be referenced as such anywhere, and Googling t8585 always brings up the regular, never the tmous.
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Yes, very lucky
As for why I want it, there's a lower chance of having wake up lag, and it has 1gb rom, that's all. So if possible I'd like to have this.

Again, not sure from your post which one you mean by "why I want it", though I shall assume you mean the tmous because the t9193 does NOT have 1gb rom.(as for less chance of wake-up lag,,,, hmmm, I'd take that little nugget of info with a large pinch of salt. I've been here daily for 18 months and seen absolutely NO evidence pointing to that being true, ((and indeed you are the first person I've seen saying it)))
your research now would be aimed at finding out for sure if a phone designed for aws can be used on non aws networks. I suspect it will but I for one certainly wouldn't buy until I knew for definite.

samsamuel said:
Again, not sure from your post which one you mean by "why I want it", though I shall assume you mean the tmous because the t9193 does NOT have 1gb rom.(as for less chance of wake-up lag,,,, hmmm, I'd take that little nugget of info with a large pinch of salt. I've been here daily for 18 months and seen absolutely NO evidence pointing to that being true, ((and indeed you are the first person I've seen saying it)))
your research now would be aimed at finding out for sure if a phone designed for aws can be used on non aws networks. I suspect it will but I for one certainly wouldn't buy until I knew for definite.
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Sorry for nt being clear, but I meant the tmous, and I just think there's a better chance of it not having wake up lag, and also having an AUO display.

I got the Tmous version & have used it in UK on Vadaphone & T-Mobile, had 3G connection but didn't give it the best of tests as was only in town for a day.
I expect it will be fine as worked perfect on european networks using 2 bands (1up, 1down).
Wil be in UK next month so will test it fully.

Mister B said:
I got the Tmous version & have used it in UK on Vadaphone & T-Mobile, had 3G connection but didn't give it the best of tests as was only in town for a day.
I expect it will be fine as worked perfect on european networks using 2 bands (1up, 1down).
Wil be in UK next month so will test it fully.
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Ty a lot, that's all I needed, virgin is a virtual network using Tmobile, so if it works on that, then it should work fine

no problem, Tmous is the beast & the later built models have revised motherboard & new screen supplier so quality/reliability is better.
Tmob bashed HTC over high unit returns & was the only thing that pushed HTC to do a sneaky revision model.
I run mine on Energy ROM & it is superb, works great in all countries & scenarios I have encountered so far.
1200Mah battery is only real big issue as on 3g HSPDA ect it uses a lot of power compared to GSM Edge.

Mister B said:
no problem, Tmous is the beast & the later built models have revised motherboard & new screen supplier so quality/reliability is better.
Tmob bashed HTC over high unit returns & was the only thing that pushed HTC to do a sneaky revision model.
I run mine on Energy ROM & it is superb, works great in all countries & scenarios I have encountered so far.
1200Mah battery is only real big issue as on 3g HSPDA ect it uses a lot of power compared to GSM Edge.
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Sounds great, I'd been thinking of jumping on the dual core bandwagon, but the cost has been holding me back, and this piece of news makes me feel better.

Mister B said:
no problem, Tmous is the beast & the later built models have revised motherboard & new screen supplier so quality/reliability is better.
Tmob bashed HTC over high unit returns & was the only thing that pushed HTC to do a sneaky revision model.
I run mine on Energy ROM & it is superb, works great in all countries & scenarios I have encountered so far.
1200Mah battery is only real big issue as on 3g HSPDA ect it uses a lot of power compared to GSM Edge.
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Yeah you are right T-Mobile had a huge percentage of HD2 returns and exchanges. Heck even I myself had a replacement HD2 sent to me as my first one had gotten where it would take me up to ten resets to getcit to boot past the orange Windows screen. But most of the returns in my opinion were because people were use to iPhones and Android devices not Windows Mobile. And as we all know Windows Mobile is not for everybody, especially te stock Win Mo ROMs. I myself hated my HD2 the first month I had it as it was my first smartphone cause it would freeze up, close applications on it's own, turn off on it's own (sometimes), get stuck on boot up everytime I had to turn it off then back own, and took forever to load a web page. But when I flash the official update almost all of that cleared up except the damn sticking at bootup. Not long after I flashed the update (my very first flash ) I found XDA and my HD2 became a prized possession. I have not ever so much as seen are touched a EU HD2 and I know they are probably justcas good as a TMOUS HD2, after all Cottula's HD2 is a EU lol. But just to give you some more personal feed back. My TMOUS is great. It still agrevates me sometimes but that is only because I live in an area with crappy signal. Can not give you feed back on your question about it working where you live but I can tell you that you won't regret buying a TMOUS HD2, unless you flash the wrong radio to it lol.

T-Macgnolia said:
Can not give you feed back on your question about it working where you live but I can tell you that you won't regret buying a TMOUS HD2, unless you flash the wrong radio to it lol.
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I take it u mean the .51.x radios? Will prbly buy it tomorrow from ebay.
Looks like the following works fine:
Leo_Radio_2.15.50.14
Seems to be the same one I was using for my eu hd2

Moon2 said:
I take it u mean the .51.x radios? Will prbly buy it tomorrow from ebay.
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Yeah that is what I am talking about. You can not flash a radio with a 51 in it to a TMOUS. Also you can not flash a radio with these numbers in it 2.04.50.xx or 2.05.50.xx, these where the radios used in the test TMOUS HD2 devices (HTC Pro Three) and they will kill a TMOUS just like a radio with a 51 in it. You have been warned lol.

T-Macgnolia said:
Yeah that is what I am talking about. You can not flash a radio with a 51 in it to a TMOUS. Also you can not flash a radio with these numbers in it 2.04.50.xx or 2.05.50.xx, these where the radios used in the test TMOUS HD2 devices (HTC Pro Three) and they will kill a TMOUS just like a radio with a 51 in it. You have been warned lol.
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You've made me start worrying even before I've bought it. :'(

Mister B said:
I got the Tmous version & have used it in UK on Vadaphone & T Mo
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Good to know. Makes sense that it would work, else roaming wouldn't, but nice to have it confirmed.

Moon2 said:
You've made me start worrying even before I've bought it. :'(
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Don't sweat it man, as long as you make sure the ROM you are flashing does not have one of those radios you are cool. The custom Win Mo ROMs mostly do not have radio included in them but just to be safe I would only flash a custom ROM from the HD2 T-Mobile Windows 6.5 development forum or a custom ROM that spacificaily says it is compatible with the TMOUS. All Android and WP7 ROMs do not have radios included so they are alll cool to flash. The only real ROMs you really have to watch are the official ROMs as they have radios included. If you flash a official stock ROM only use the one you get from the T-Mobile wibsite and you are gravy.

Moon2 said:
You've made me start worrying even before I've bought it. :'(
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Don't worry plenty of info on radios for TmoUS.
I'm currently testing radios for my device & usage. 2.12.50.02_2 is a well liked radio for most people. 2.15.50.14 was slated by a few intelligent HD2 users, haven't tested it myself yet.
This device is superb, just read the forums & post if you have concerns on flashing ect.

[Q] HD2 EU or TMOB ?

hey i wanna buy HD2 but i donnow if all the dev ( all the ROMS of android and WP7 ) for this phone supports the TMOB ver ?
ebay price of the HD2 EU its about 200$ +- for new
and price of the TMOB its 200$ +- for used ..
should i go for the TMOB or the EU ver ?

All Android and WP7 ROMs can be used on either the EU or the TMOUS HD2. But with the TMOUS you can not flash all Windows Mobile ROMs to it. If the Win Mo ROM has a radio version with a 51 in the third spot like this x.xx.51.xx then you can not flash it to a TMOUS or you will brick it. Also you can not flash a ROM with a radio version below 2.08.50.xx or it will brick a TMOUS.

T-Macgnolia said:
All Android and WP7 ROMs can be used on either the EU or the TMOUS HD2. But with the TMOUS you can not flash all Windows Mobile ROMs to it. If the Win Mo ROM has a radio version with a 51 in the third spot like this x.xx.51.xx then you can not flash it to a TMOUS or you will brick it. Also you can not flash a ROM with a radio version below 2.08.50.xx or it will brick a TMOUS.
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so ill better buy the EU ver less troubles .. TNX

shovelxxx said:
so ill better buy the EU ver less troubles .. TNX
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I think you misunderstood, the TMOUS isn't really any more trouble than the EU one. Nobody uses WinMo now anyway, and if you have a TMOUS HD2 you should never have to change the radio. I think the EU is still a better deal (TMOUS only has 512mb extra storage) but I just thought that that should probably be clarified.
Sent from my NexusHD2 using XDA

Buy a new EU HD2 if you can get it at the same price as a used TMOUS.

TMOB is better,because the new magldr will support two os in NAND,which need 1024 ROM space
Sent from my HTC HD2

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TMOB is better,because the new magldr will support two os in NAND,which need 1024 ROM space
Sent from my HTC HD2
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That's the "new" magldr we've been hearing about for almost a year?

Please keep in mind HSDPA frequencies.
EU - 1700 / 2100
T-MO US - 900 / 2100
These may or may not matter, depending on where you live and your carrier.

bardzusny said:
Please keep in mind HSDPA frequencies.
EU - 1700 / 2100
T-MO US - 900 / 2100
These may or may not matter, depending on where you live and your carrier.
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Correction
Regular hd2 does 3g on 900+2100
Tmous hd2 does 3g on 1700+2100

bardzusny said:
Please keep in mind HSDPA frequencies.
EU - 1700 / 2100
T-MO US - 900 / 2100
These may or may not matter, depending on where you live and your carrier.
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them both or working at my country ...

samsamuel said:
That's the "new" magldr we've been hearing about for almost a year?
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For those who have been following the developments on the "new" MAGLDR it is coming closer and closer to being released and will have some capabilities that are well worth waiting for.

rlydiard said:
For those who have been following the developments on the "new" MAGLDR it is coming closer and closer to being released and will have some capabilities that are well worth waiting for.
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woot! woot!
i'll start to look for those Tmouse here :silly: