I am debating giving my wife my euro version, as her cell just died (LG Cookie) and buying/unlocking a T-Mobile version for myself. Of course the first thing I'll do is HSPL 2.08, so the question is...
Will I notice a difference between the two in terms of call quality? My euro has the 576 RAM hack ROM installed, but I'll likely remove that since my wife could not possibly cafe less about it. Doe the T-Mobile's have improved call quality over the euro versions, as they actually support the extra RAM as stock?
Has anyone been able to do a side-by-side comparison first hand?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
One more thing:
Under normal circumstances, the T-Mobile version ships with 2.08 radio, which will not be affected if I flash a 2.10 based/TMOUS compatible ROM, correct? I mean, the ROM and Radio are separate flashes, and most cooked ROMs do not include Radios, so I'd be safe, generally speaking, correct? Don't want to brick the new one.
For clarity it would be a good idea to differentiate between the UK and US T-mobile models as I have a UK version and it would be pointless doing the comparision with an EU model. Wouldn't it?
donalgodon said:
I am debating giving my wife my euro version, as her cell just died (LG Cookie) and buying/unlocking a T-Mobile version for myself. Of course the first thing I'll do is HSPL 2.08, so the question is...
Will I notice a difference between the two in terms of call quality? My euro has the 576 RAM hack ROM installed, but I'll likely remove that since my wife could not possibly cafe less about it. Doe the T-Mobile's have improved call quality over the euro versions, as they actually support the extra RAM as stock?
Has anyone been able to do a side-by-side comparison first hand?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
One more thing:
Under normal circumstances, the T-Mobile version ships with 2.08 radio, which will not be affected if I flash a 2.10 based/TMOUS compatible ROM, correct? I mean, the ROM and Radio are separate flashes, and most cooked ROMs do not include Radios, so I'd be safe, generally speaking, correct? Don't want to brick the new one.
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you won't have 3G, if you don't live in the US, besides that there shouldn't be any differences.
pa49 said:
For clarity it would be a good idea to differentiate between the UK and US T-mobile models as I have a UK version and it would be pointless doing the comparision with an EU model. Wouldn't it?
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UK version = EU version.
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UK version = EU version.[/QUOTE said:
Really?
Well you learn something new everyday.
That means that the UK is now in the EU?
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Really?
Well you learn something new everyday.
That means that the UK is now in the EU?
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huh?
im stating that both are one to one the same device. they are bothe a T8585 model. It has nothing to do with the fact that the UK isn't in the EU!
shu8i said:
huh?
im stating that both are one to one the same device. they are bothe a T8585 model. It has nothing to do with the fact that the UK isn't in the EU!
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The UK is in the EU
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The UK is in the EU
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y but they are not in shengen and don't have euro as currency.
the good thing about the t mobile version, is that it comes with a lot more internal memory then the euro , besides that is all the same .
How many different models are out? How to identify which i have? Whats the hottest rom out? Im coming from a Touch Pro from alltel to T-Mobile, any heads up is much appreciated....
cbmm said:
How many different models are out? How to identify which i have? Whats the hottest rom out? Im coming from a Touch Pro from alltel to T-Mobile, any heads up is much appreciated....
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if the send key is green, you have a tmous.
If it came from tmous, then its a tmous
If you have it working with 3g on tmo usa then it can ONLY be a tmous.
and there's only two models...the tmo us, and the euro version (less memory and a slight bit shorter than the tmo model...plus crucial differences in ROM compatibility).
The thread linked below is where you should really start....go through it at length, check out all the links. After you've done that, then make a list of questions you still haven't seen answers to, and come back and post any that are left
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=663845
I'm a huge fan of Kumars 2.0 rom. Its excellent, super stable, and very fast. Plus he's working on new builds based off of the 2.13
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and there's only two models...the tmo us, and the euro version (less memory and a slight bit shorter than the tmo model...plus crucial differences in ROM compatibility).
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Three actually. We can't forget the T9193 Telstra edition, which is identical to the European T8585 except for NextG branding and 850/2100MHz HSDPA.
friend'scatdied said:
Three actually. We can't forget the T9193 Telstra edition, which is identical to the European T8585 except for NextG branding and 850/2100MHz HSDPA.
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That is correct....we can't, but I often do anyway
Can you post your stock ROM version? is it 2.10 or 2.13?
2.10 was the original rom 2.13 is the updated version released on 5/13.
I'm about to buy hd2 but a shop only sells t-mobile hd2.
I'm wondering if I can use the roms for leo hd2.
You can use custom roms found here on XDA on a tmobile HD2.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
you can use MOST custom roms on the tmous.
@OP the tmous will only take roms that are v 2.x or higher, so that means none of the non tmous stock roms (which include a deadly radio anyway) and no cooked roms that are based on 1.x base roms. Read the roms thread, they generally cleary say that they are tmous compatible, most are.
Oh , thank you for good information
Then, t-mobile one is faster than international one? since it has 1 gb rom and 512 mb ram
I flash whatever ROM I find.... Since the onces that are not cmopatible with th US Version would normally have something like this at the top of the post
DOES NOT WORK ON THE US HD2 or something...
So i'll avoid those.... But it helps to read the entire post, .50 radios are compatible. any other Radio version wont work...
Just a thought.... Most rom are just that...ROMs not a combination of (ROM/Radio) like the ones issued from T-Mobile and HTC
Edit: All the HTC HD2 / LEOs are the Similar in Speed.. The only major difference is the ROM(storage) Spaced Where as the US Version had 1G all the others only have 512MB
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Edit: All the HTC HD2 / LEOs are the Similar in Speed.. The only major difference is the ROM(storage) Spaced Where as the US Version had 1G all the others only have 512MB
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You forgot one major factor....
If you live in USA you'll most definitely want the T-Mobile edition anyway because the international version won't give you 3G/HSPA+. That's if you plan on purchasing the data plan.
T-Mobile US 3G/H requires the 1700/2100 Frequency
jorkobe23 said:
Then, t-mobile one is faster than international one? since it has 1 gb rom and 512 mb ram
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no, a bigger fuel tank doesn't make a car go faster,,,, morerom just means more storage, not more speed.
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You forgot one major factor....
If you live in USA you'll most definitely want the T-Mobile edition anyway because the international version won't give you 3G/HSPA+.
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unless you are on at&t in which case you want the international version.
Hi all, we are at a very exciting moment for the history of this excellent smartphone.
I own a HD2 European version (originally from Spanish Vodafone), and I was wondering if you think it is worth selling it and buying the T-Mous 1Gb ROM version instead.
I come to you, asking if I would have any problems (incompatibility issues) by using the US HD2 in Belgium or any other European country.
Is the additional 512mb ROM worth changing? I found out that I could probably buy the US version for the same price I would sell the European one.
As I am not sure about any potential problems that the US HD2 might have, that is why I request your input.
Thank you all in advance for all your help.
are u out of your mind
you want to change your hd2 with another damn hd2
and you are asking whether is it worth doing it or not
if u want to change your hd2 then go and buy another cool phone
like hd7 or nexus s or anything but hd2
are you really enjoing winmo 6.5 on hd2
or buggy android builds
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are u out of your mind
you want to change your hd2 with another damn hd2
and you are asking whether is it worth doing it or not
if u want to change your hd2 then go and buy another cool phone
like hd7 or nexus s or anything but hd2
are you really enjoing winmo 6.5 on hd2
or buggy android builds
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Android builds work great on the HD2... and now we can run wp7 flawlessly. Soon we'll figure out a way to have both on our phones.
OP... since android builds most work now with apps2sd, having the extra 512mb rom isn't all that necessary. I would keep whatever HD2 gives you 3g reception in your area.
m2shakiba said:
are u out of your mind
you want to change your hd2 with another damn hd2
and you are asking whether is it worth doing it or not
if u want to change your hd2 then go and buy another cool phone
like hd7 or nexus s or anything but hd2
are you really enjoing winmo 6.5 on hd2
or buggy android builds
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I think you did not understand what I was asking. I have an European version HD2, this means that I only have 512 Mb ROM instead of the 1Gb ROM that comes with the T-Mous one.
As said by zarathustrax, there is a possibility of running both WP7 and Android from NAND, but for that you need space and 512Mb won't cut it.
As for the 3g, is it true that the US version is not compatible with the European network?
Johev said:
I think you did not understand what I was asking. I have an European version HD2, this means that I only have 512 Mb ROM instead of the 1Gb ROM that comes with the T-Mous one.
As said by zarathustrax, there is a possibility of running both WP7 and Android from NAND, but for that you need space and 512Mb won't cut it.
As for the 3g, is it true that the US version is not compatible with the European network?
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You can still use it as a phone and get 2g speeds on data, but for 3g the tmobile US HD2 only uses 1700/2100 for 3g... I don't think any carriers in europe use those band for 3g. Thats why US users can't take a european HD2 and get 3g in US. Phones are quadband for gsm, but for 3g, they only have 2 bands each model... that's why there's 3 different models of HD2s for different parts of the world.
Also, if you do get the t-mobile US version, you would have to sim-unlock it also to use on a different carrier.
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You can still use it as a phone and get 2g speeds on data, but for 3g the tmobile US HD2 only uses 1700/2100 for 3g... I don't think any carriers in europe use those band for 3g. Thats why US users can't take a european HD2 and get 3g in US. Phones are quadband for gsm, but for 3g, they only have 2 bands each model... that's why there's 3 different models of HD2s for different parts of the world.
Also, if you do get the t-mobile US version, you would have to sim-unlock it also to use on a different carrier.
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Thanks for the information, I have tanked you for this comment. I will keep my HD2 and find a way to partition the SD card in order to solve the problem and use both OS without needing to boot into one and run the other.
Regards.
hello guys,
i want to clear some of my issues here, so guys please help me out (and please don't suggest me to buy a new phone as i don't like WM7 nor android nor iOS but i like windows 6.5 and wants to test some things on this phone only)
so i have done my homework(just a bit) and checked this comparison between both of them and found only a few things are different, here they are
gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3228&idPhone2=2957
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T-Mobile HD2 HTC HD2
1. 3G Network : HSDPA 1700 / 2100 HSDPA 900 / 2100
HSDPA 850 / 2100 - Australian Version
2. Dimensions : 122 x 67 x 11 mm 120.5 x 67 x 11 mm
3. Memory(Internal) : 576 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM 448 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM
4. WLAN : Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g, Wi-Fi router
1. i want to use this phone in India so does the point no. 1 concerns me ???
2. i don't care about this difference
3. this is the major thing what i want to know , tell me everything that what differences does 512MB ROM can make.
4. i think that's just a typo error and HTC HD2 also have Wi-Fi router, if i'm wrong please tell me what does it do.
+ one more thing i want to know is how loud is the speaker sound is(for ringtones) in comparison to HTC Touch Diamond(i already got this one).
i have heard that radio version of T-Mobile HD2 is something weird , so it doesn't support most of the ROM's and people can brick this easily(accidently).
Note : i want to check Android OS's , WM7 OS and ubuntu too , so keeping that in mind and suggest me that if T-Mobile with 576 MB RAM, 1 GB ROM is better or the other one .
Thanx for reading this
The only difference is ROM, 1GB in TMOUS and 512MB in international version.
Radio bricks? You can cause them only if you install wrong Windows Mobile ROM or very old radio. If you want to stick to Android and WP7, there's nothing you should worry about.
1 pretty sure most networks in India use the 2100 so should be fine. If you intend to do any travelling though, the regular will have a bit more roaming compatibility.
3 with the correct rom radio and spl combination the regular hd2 also has 576m ram, and besides, 448 is usually plenty. Check the Artemis winmo6.5 rom, it doesn't use the extra ram and doesn't suffer for it.
That just leaves the double internal rom. If/when magldr 2 gets released, you'll be able to have multiple OS's in nand, in which case the extra 512meg will be really useful, but for now, with android using a2sd to simulate internal memory on the SD its not a big difference.
The big difference as you noted (incorrect reasoning, but it does lead to a brick) is the radio.
Regular can use any radio, but must use a T-Mobile (tmous) radio if you want to unlock the extra ram or use android/wp7/magldr.
Radios are told apart by the code,,,
x.xx.50 are tmous,
x.xx.51 for regular, however since the later regular roms started shipping with 50 radios too, most people just set something like 2.15.50 and forget about it.
It boils down to "never flash a regular hd2 stock rom to a tmous, its radio will brick it.
most important thing is buying a good device & not really so important in terms of TMOUS or International.
1GB ROM is nice on the TMOUS but a good working device preferably new & not from eBay & the likes is the main thing of concern.
TMOUS 3G band issues is not a great concern & I have used mine in many countries on 3G with no issues yet.
Just go with the best & newest you can get hold of.
thanx for the fast replies guys
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@Spaqin :::
so you mean if i install a false ROM of 6.5 only than there are chances of getting the device bricked but i try Android(ICSW) and WP7 its safe ??
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@samsamuel :::
if 2100 works in India i'll be fine than(no plans for travelling in near future), BTW what exactly is magldr 2 ? and is that extra 512MB ROM makes any difference in interface speed of WP7 or Android(if we install them)
what if install a false radio and get bricked.....is that mean we will be stuck on a black screen for ever and no coming back to official ROM ??
what is a nand ?
i gurss you haven't check the 4th point of WLAN and what about loudness of speaker in comparison to touch diamond ?
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@Mister B :::
thanx for the suggestion dear but i really don't want to buy a newest model, and why not to buy it from ebay ?
and i really don't have a plan to travel in near future , so no need to worry about the band issues
buy hd2 new if possible not a newest model.
ebay is full of defect devices, it is quite a risk.
I have tested hd2 tmous in many countries over last 2years & 1700/2100 3g bands have been no issue for me ...
@Mister B ::::
well as i live in INDIA and here i couldn't find a box pack model so gonna get it from ebay.com only coz amazon don't ship to india.........BTW planning to buy a brand new but used one's are also available here on Indian ebay.in
Question . : even the brand new phone have defects from ebay ?? is that a personal experience ?
amitkool21 said:
@samsamuel :::
if 2100 works in India i'll be fine than(no plans for travelling in near future), BTW what exactly is magldr 2 ?
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magldr is a custom bootloader used to load wp7/android.
and is that extra 512MB ROM makes any difference in interface speed of WP7 or Android(if we install them)
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it may help to have the whole rom on the same memory chip, but in general i doubt it. so long as the sd card is a decent one, and the rom you install is working right (not an alpha/beta) then you shouldn't see any difference.
what if install a false radio and get bricked.....is that mean we will be stuck on a black screen for ever and no coming back to official ROM ??
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JTAG will fix it. (dont ask, look it up if you wanna know what it is)
what is a nand ?
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the internal memory chip, the read only memory, , the internal storage chip, it is 'nand' flash memory, hence we call it 'nand' or 'the nand' as in ' im dual booting wp7 from the nand, gingerbread android from sd'
i gurss you haven't check the 4th point of WLAN
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didnt bother reading that far, , , there are no differences in wifi.
and what about loudness of speaker in comparison to touch diamond ?
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couldnt say. what i CAN say is its very dependant on what you are running, most winmo roms are fine, i think i remember hearing that wp7 was a bit loud, and i find android just a little quiet.
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
Q. any site with internationl shipping(and what maximum price you suggest) ?
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
again a big thanx man
Mister B said:
buy hd2 new if possible not a newest model.
ebay is full of defect devices, it is quite a risk.
I have tested hd2 tmous in many countries over last 2years & 1700/2100 3g bands have been no issue for me ...
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even i would like to know the same thing as i have just bought this phone from ebay.com.
He is saying its WP6.5 stock and sealed and all.
what possible defect are you talking about ?
amitkool21 said:
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
you can use this device in india
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
we can flash win7 only to nand. android is installed in SD
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
its same. because NAND is just a ROM, where win 7 will be installed. As stated unless MGLDR 2 doesn't come out and you want to install both OS in NAND. it makes no difference.
Q. any site with internationl shipping(and what maximum price you suggest) ?
i bought from ebay. waiting for it to get delivered.
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
HD2 T8585 is HD2 Leo which is HTC HD2. Its mentioned here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_hd2-2957.php
First line
again a big thanx man
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tanush said:
even i would like to know the same thing as i have just bought this phone from ebay.com.
He is saying its WP6.5 stock and sealed and all.
what possible defect are you talking about ?
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@tanush : where you from(state) and have you bought it from ebay.com or ebay.in and a T-Mobile or a International Model ???
tanush said:
even i would like to know the same thing as i have just bought this phone from ebay.com.
He is saying its WP6.5 stock and sealed and all.
what possible defect are you talking about ?
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and can you please provide me the link of ebay listing.........???
amitkool21 said:
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
Q. any site with internationl shipping(and what maximum price you suggest) ?
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
again a big thanx man
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and can you please provide me the link of ebay listing.........???
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ebay.com bro.. no listing in ebay.in
PMed you the link!
amitkool21 said:
@samsamuel : thanx for all these detailed answers man......
some few more questions here(sorry)
check this thread ::: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786261
Q. does that mean i can't use this device in India ?
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well, since you picked that post i shall assume you are using vodaphone, , , gsm will work because the hd2 (both types) are quad band, so that handles calls, gprs, and edge, and voda india puts out hsdpa at 900 and 2100, and both regular and tmous can handle 3g on 2100, while the regular can also handle hsdpa at 900, and you may find (i'll let you look it up, cos i couldsn't immediately see it) that in some countries more rural areas use 900 for 3g (beter range) while cities have 2100, (better building penetration) so it may be worth checking that you get 2100 in your area.
Q. can we flash Win 7 to nand ?
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only to nand.
Q. what you suggest a T-Mobile HD2 or the HTC HD2 ?
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i supose the real clincher is if you need the 900MHz to get 3g.(honestly, i dont think i'd like a tmous, i like the white keys of the regular, and i get too smoked late at night when playing with roms to feel comfortable with a phone that has an instant brick switch built in, so it'd be a regular hd2 for me, , im already 6 months into my second)
Q. what are the different-different models available for HD2, like HD2 T8585 , HD2 Leo 100 and some others.....are they any different ??
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t8585 - regular hd2
t9193 - telstra hd2, which is a regular hd2, but with different 3g frequencies, probably not what you're after.
leo 100 - htc code name for the t8585
again a big thanx man
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problem is a lot of so called new is not 100% new.
if lucky they have a few & they are old stock but unused.
If unlucky it could be handset returned after a few days with odd faults or service centre repaired units used for warranty exchange.
Chinese are experts at repackaging & tagging so you can be clueless.
Check the sellers feedback carefully: http://www.feedbackselector.com/
contact a couple of people who purchased hd2 or other similar listed phones from this seller.
I have had a few personal chats with xda members (last one was from india too) with bad eBay Hd2 experiences but most have been used Hd2s but do remember it so easy to lie & sell the sh1te you can't via standard retail via eBay at good profit level so buyer must take care.
Hope you have good purchases, best of luck
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well, since you picked that post i shall assume you are using vodaphone, , , gsm will work because the hd2 (both types) are quad band, so that handles calls, gprs, and edge, and voda india puts out hsdpa at 900 and 2100, and both regular and tmous can handle 3g on 2100, while the regular can also handle hsdpa at 900, and you may find (i'll let you look it up, cos i couldsn't immediately see it) that in some countries more rural areas use 900 for 3g (beter range) while cities have 2100, (better building penetration) so it may be worth checking that you get 2100 in your area.only to nand.i supose the real clincher is if you need the 900MHz to get 3g.(honestly, i dont think i'd like a tmous, i like the white keys of the regular, and i get too smoked late at night when playing with roms to feel comfortable with a phone that has an instant brick switch built in, so it'd be a regular hd2 for me, , im already 6 months into my second)
t8585 - regular hd2
t9193 - telstra hd2, which is a regular hd2, but with different 3g frequencies, probably not what you're after.
leo 100 - htc code name for the t8585
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see... thats how i should have posted... I'll code from now on...
thanks for help!!!
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Mister B said:
problem is a lot of so called new is not 100% new.
if lucky they have a few & they are old stock but unused.
If unlucky it could be handset returned after a few days with odd faults or service centre repaired units used for warranty exchange.
Chinese are experts at repackaging & tagging so you can be clueless.
Check the sellers feedback carefully: http://www.feedbackselector.com/
contact a couple of people who purchased hd2 or other similar listed phones from this seller.
I have had a few personal chats with xda members (last one was from india too) with bad eBay Hd2 experiences but most have been used Hd2s but do remember it so easy to lie & sell the sh1te you can't via standard retail via eBay at good profit level so buyer must take care.
Hope you have good purchases, best of luck
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There's nothing I can do know... Already bought.. Just have to play the waiting game....
thanks for telling me this website...
would be very useful from now on...
@samsamuel :
thanx man you are a life saver, is there anything i can do for you ??
BTW last set of Questions ........ any possibilities of magldr 2 release in near future ??
and is the speaker sound loud enough for ringtones ??
what do you mean by "im already 6 months into my second" and "instant brick switch built in"(i guess the second phrase is for T-Mobile, bcoz of the radio bricking problem)
i also like the white keys of regular one(so i guess i'm going to order a regular one only, but lets wait for tanush's order when his is delivered, i'll ask him about the frequencies)
can you suggest me a good seller on ebay(who sells genuine item only not refurbished ones)
thanx again
@Mister B :
i'll remember that sir , thanx
@tanush : good luck brother, do let us know when you get it
@samsamuel :
check this link for the frequencies used by Indian networks
roamtheworldcellphones.com/gsmindia[/url]
TMOUS 2G GSM is quad-band same as international:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
TMOUS 3G differs but still works on all 1900/2100 I have tried in UK,France, Germany, China, Hong Kong, Singapore.
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
Mister B said:
TMOUS 2G GSM is quad-band same as international:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
TMOUS 3G differs but still works on all 1900/2100 I have tried in UK,France, Germany, China, Hong Kong, Singapore.
3G Network HSDPA 1700 / 2100
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thanx but it says different here with general model >> HSDPA 900 / 2100
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3228&idPhone2=2957