Can the T-Mobile system files be removed... no harm done? - HD2 General

I'm wondering if various included applications such as the Bing widget, Blockbuster Mobile, B&N eReader, the Gameloft game demos, and so on... could be removed? SAFELY, of course.
They just create what seems to be (and probably is) unnecessary system bulk. Not to mention, those game demos are completely hideous, and they obscure the potentially "uncluttered" Start Menu applications tray that could be had.
Could someone perhaps offer a bit of insight, maybe even enlighten me a little bit on this topic? Thanks.

Reignzone said:
I'm wondering if various included applications such as the Bing widget, Blockbuster Mobile, B&N eReader, the Gameloft game demos, and so on... could be removed? SAFELY, of course.
They just create what seems to be (and probably is) unnecessary system bulk. Not to mention, those game demos are completely hideous, and they obscure the potentially "uncluttered" Start Menu applications tray that could be had.
Could someone perhaps offer a bit of insight, maybe even enlighten me a little bit on this topic? Thanks.
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They can be removed in a cooked ROM, not sure if it is safe for a user to try and remove the files though. Remove one of the wrong files and you have a problem. Most of my ROMS I remove all of this stuff for the same reasons you mentioned.

i just did. everything's fine, except I accidentally deleted opera too, but thats easy to be cabbed back.

Thanks for shedding some light on this topic fellas. Great feedback. But yeah, I kind of figured that the icons could be removed from the Start Menu tray, the program files could be deleted, (with a system warning - of course) and it seems that even after that things SHOULD BE just fine.
From what I understand though... T-Mobile has made sure that some of these third-party apps cannot be deleted. For instance, I'd like to know if TeleNav and MobiTV can be rid of as well. Seriously, once freeing OUR version of the HTC HD2 of all this corporate junk and clutter from T-Mobile partnerships... it'll be very, very quick. (As if it's NOT already...)

Reignzone said:
Thanks for shedding some light on this topic fellas. Great feedback. But yeah, I kind of figured that the icons could be removed from the Start Menu tray, the program files could be deleted, (with a system warning - of course) and it seems that even after that things SHOULD BE just fine.
From what I understand though... T-Mobile has made sure that some of these third-party apps cannot be deleted. For instance, I'd like to know if TeleNav and MobiTV can be rid of as well. Seriously, once freeing OUR version of the HTC HD2 of all this corporate junk and clutter from T-Mobile partnerships... it'll be very, very quick. (As if it's NOT already...)
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there is nothing T-Mobile has put into this rom that can not be removed when cooking. it is just a pain to find where they have implemented all the crap, some times is in more then one place the same change.

Shortcuts will be under \Windows\Start menu\Programs, related program files will be under \Program Files, shouldnt cause any issues deleting them.

jlavoie said:
there is nothing T-Mobile has put into this rom that can not be removed when cooking. it is just a pain to find where they have implemented all the crap, some times is in more then one place the same change.
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Very true. However, would you suggest that the average Windows Mobile user attempt to dump, remove various things, then throw it all together, OR... simply use Resco File Explorer to remove the unwanted programs, system files, etc.?
I used to develop for Android, but this stuff is an entirely different ball game to me. So, I'm trying to learn the YES and NO basics here. Thanks.

Reignzone said:
Very true. However, would you suggest that the average Windows Mobile user attempt to dump, remove various things, then throw it all together, OR... simply use Resco File Explorer to remove the unwanted programs, system files, etc.?
I used to develop for Android, but this stuff is an entirely different ball game to me. So, I'm trying to learn the YES and NO basics here. Thanks.
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cooking is the best way to remove things you do not want. a user can delete all the crap they want but this will not give them more storage (files cook in can not be deleted just hidden) but rater just hide things they do not want to see. just remember that if you delete a program, make sure nothing else uses it.

efjay said:
Shortcuts will be under \Windows\Start menu\Programs, related program files will be under \Program Files, shouldnt cause any issues deleting them.
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jlavoie said:
cooking is the best way to remove things you do not want. a user can delete all the crap they want but this will not give them more storage (files cook in can not be deleted just hidden) but rater just hide things they do not want to see. just remember that if you delete a program, make sure nothing else uses it.
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Alright, thanks guys. Always appreciated for a bit of feedback.
THIS THREAD CAN BE CLOSED NOW... unless other T-Mobile USA HD2 users find this in any way, shape, or form helpful to continue. Thanks again.

Reignzone said:
I'm wondering if various included applications such as the Bing widget, Blockbuster Mobile, B&N eReader, the Gameloft game demos, and so on... could be removed? SAFELY, of course.
They just create what seems to be (and probably is) unnecessary system bulk. Not to mention, those game demos are completely hideous, and they obscure the potentially "uncluttered" Start Menu applications tray that could be had.
Could someone perhaps offer a bit of insight, maybe even enlighten me a little bit on this topic? Thanks.
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They can be reomoved but the registry has to be edited to remove some of the keys.Do one at a time and make sure the phone works ok for a few days before going on to the next.

you can do it but i wouldnt reconmmend it unless u know what ur doin but will say the each program is spidered in to the device the best sure way is to upgrade to a cooked rom but i must say but..............
WARNING U CAN CHANGE UR ROM BUT DOING SO WILL VOID UR WARRENTY WITH TMOBILE AND CAN AND WILL SPEND ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO 100 US CURENCY DOLLARS ON HAVING HTC DOWNGRADE UR DEVICE BACK TO ITS SHIPPED STATE BUT YES IT CAN BE DONE AND THERE OFFICE IS EITHER TEXAS OR CALIFORNIA I FORGET AND CAN TAKE UPTO 2WEEKS BUT I WILL SAY IT WORTH THE RISK JUST READ BEFORE U MOD........

ive deleted everything but telenav and mobitv, and no issues

Even though these programs don't show up in the Remove applications, they are able to be removed manually to release the storage--if you know where the files are located. (icons and shortcuts are easily removed).
However, whenever you do a hardware reset, they will come back, since they are part of the ROM which they could not be removed there.

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CUBE .....no flash needed!

Easy "Cube" in stall in two CAB's....no flash-lite needed. No confiration needed.
I added the configuration cab in just incase you want to mod it.. but its not necessary.
This put a whole bunch of bs on my phone I can't get rid of. Looks like I'm gonna have to hard reset.
Your the only one.........
forceking85 said:
This put a whole bunch of bs on my phone I can't get rid of. Looks like I'm gonna have to hard reset.
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A simple " Didn't work out too well on my device. I will explain what happened..." would have sufficed. This way we can all learn and maybe together figure out what went wrong. Maybe it was operator error?
Please be considerate towards the time and work it takes others to develop, test, implement and share these mods as those who have the create spark do not have to. You CHOSE to load this app and as I see it, everything here is shared & loaded on a "At your own risk". I have had a 101:1 ratio of good to bad so...
Now could you explain what happened on your device when you attempted to install?
It said the program couldn't be loaded and then when I removed it left a whole lot of folders in my windows folder that can't be deleted.
Cube
It works great. I have it installed with the ftouchFLo 1.4.1 release I have no problems. it is great.

How To Remove Manilla 2d From Your Phone

no need for add/remove programs here! simply go to start-settings-today-items, uncheck touchflo, hit ok. go to system tab,remove programs, and remove the 2d! no extra programs needed. it may take a few minutes to uninstall but i have not had the uninstall fail on me yet.
Failed for me last week. Yep, tried what you said. 6.1 tilt. It WAS the newest release at the time.
Just a heads up.
railslave said:
no need for add/remove programs here! simply go to start-settings-today-items, uncheck touchflo, hit ok. go to system tab,remove programs, and remove the 2d! no extra programs needed. it may take a few minutes to uninstall but i have not had the uninstall fail on me yet.
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Hmm. You say "no need for add/remove programs" but then "go to system tab, remove programs".
Also, please don't start threads unless you're contributing. This should have either been posted in the Manilla 2d thread, or not at all. We all know how to remove apps. I know your new, but maybe reading the forum rules wouldn't hurt.
SkTool is work.
Please englighten me - why does the 2d **** not work on non-htc devices as advertised in the main manila 2d thread?
aiiro said:
Please englighten me - why does the 2d **** not work on non-htc devices as advertised in the main manila 2d thread?
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Because Manilla is an HTC creation and only works on HTC phones. It's like putting the Mac OS on a PC. Apple made it for Macs, and it only works for Macs
zeo2k said:
Because Manilla is an HTC creation and only works on HTC phones. It's like putting the Mac OS on a PC. Apple made it for Macs, and it only works for Macs
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but leo4all works on (most) pcs ^^
aiiro said:
Please englighten me - why does the 2d **** not work on non-htc devices as advertised in the main manila 2d thread?
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From 1st Page
This Does Not Work On Non HTC Devices, Stop Asking
why do you want sh... on your device ? Pure pleasure
Removing Manila
although its gr8 to have manila on HTC touch (i thank da xda guys), but if at all u wanna remove it, try removing it by SKtools.. google sktools and u'll find it. its pretty easy to uninstall but u cant uninstall thru phone's native "remove programs"
I'm not asking whether it works or not, I got that obviously already, I just wanted to know why. And thank You but I think the PC/Mac parallel is a bit exaggerated cos HTC and ASUS for example are not that different like ASUS and iPhone.
The reason I referred to Manila 2D as **** was exactly the reason that it requires specifically a HTC device. Therefore, it's **** for me as I can't do anything with it owning an ASUS device. And I just wanted to know why.
aiiro said:
I'm not asking whether it works or not, I got that obviously already, I just wanted to know why. And thank You but I think the PC/Mac parallel is a bit exaggerated cos HTC and ASUS for example are not that different like ASUS and iPhone.
The reason I referred to Manila 2D as **** was exactly the reason that it requires specifically a HTC device. Therefore, it's **** for me as I can't do anything with it owning an ASUS device. And I just wanted to know why.
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Because HTC locked it to their devices and specific files are needed that do not work on non HTC phones.
OK, thanks for a clear and concrete reply.
This thing isn't removing from my Kaiser...I've followed all instructions but everytime I try and remove, it gets to the end and then says ...
"It wasn't fully uninstalled, do you want to remove from the Remove Programs list?"
I've tried rebooting, then trying again, taking it out of the Today Items list, and still no joy - how do I get this pointless pile of crap off my phone!!!!!!!!!
Appreciate your help!
Hard reset and reload a backup that You recently made?
aiiro said:
Hard reset and reload a backup that You recently made?
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Thought that'd be the case, fortunately Vodafone are giving me a new phone tomorrow anyway beacuse my phone keeps receiving MMS (the same ones) over and over again, they reckon its the phones fault!!
What a waste of time this Manilla 2D is, worst more pointless thing I've ever installed!!
somone lock this thread and delete it. as its going no were.
@ ashleyhall : your phone was recieving the msgs due to a program you installed. a hard reset will fix your msgs problem and manila being on your phone. good day.
shadowmike said:
somone lock this thread and delete it. as its going no were.
@ ashleyhall : your phone was recieving the msgs due to a program you installed. a hard reset will fix your msgs problem and manila being on your phone. good day.
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Ahhh ok, Vodafone didn't have a clue, checked the network, changed my price plan (how pointless!), my phones acknowledging an MMS being read, but not Delivered - lets see if the new phone cures the problem, then I'll shove the same apps back onto it.
I need a break from WM6, considering Android...but a little scared!!
mods please close thread

what are these startups?

Hey all.
New owner of the X1 and so far loving the phone.
I've currently got the following on startup on my X1 and I was wondering if someone could be kind enough to explain what it loads and if it's ok to delete:
AutoShortcut
PanelDefault
Panelmanager
poutlook
cheers
I would hazard a guess that poutlook is Pocket Outlook, and PanelDefault / Panelmanager run the Panels interface for Xperia phones.
I don't mean to be nasty or rude, but if you didn't know what Panelmanager is then that suggests that you should perhaps spend some time learning more about your device before you start deleting stuff.
For now I suggest you leave things be and just enjoy playing with it.
Mr Anderson said:
I would hazard a guess that poutlook is Pocket Outlook, and PanelDefault / Panelmanager run the Panels interface for Xperia phones.
I don't mean to be nasty or rude, but if you didn't know what Panelmanager is then that suggests that you should perhaps spend some time learning more about your device before you start deleting stuff.
For now I suggest you leave things be and just enjoy playing with it.
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thanks for the reply. The advice I'm looking for is what would happen if I deleted the above?
whoseline said:
thanks for the reply. The advice I'm looking for is what would happen if I deleted the above?
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You could create a backup of your settings and try it out for yourself, if you do not want to heed other people's warnings.
1) Panel Manager would not load (so no panel when u restart the phone).
For the other files you have the description here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410139&page=16
Also you should (have) post(ed) in a section that's designed just for you guys...
stormlv said:
You could create a backup of your settings and try it out for yourself, if you do not want to heed other people's warnings.
1) Panel Manager would not load (so no panel when u restart the phone).
For the other files you have the description here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410139&page=16
Also you should (have) post(ed) in a section that's designed just for you guys...
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Thanks for the bad attitude reply. If you don't have anything nice to say, ignore post.
I believe I posted in the right section, if i didn't I apologies but let the admins worry about that.
Hey, come on...play fair. There's no bad attitude here, stormlv is trying to be helpful, as am I.
Another option you have is to RENAME the files with a different extension so they are no longer recognised and the OS won't know what to do with them so they won't run.
That way you can discover what the behaviour of the device is, and if it doesn't please you then you just rename them back again.
if you are not using outlook then you could try deleting that and for panel manager i am not sure because sometime before i have had panel manager crash but the panel interface still works so maybe it restarts its self when you press the panel button - as Mr Anderson said renaming the files would be a good way to test which ones you do and dont want
one should avoid deleting anything beyond the Windows folder unless you know what you are doing.
any files to delete would be stored in ur device documents folder, like pics, vids, and other stuff that i call demo files

What do I need? New phone!!

Will be taking delivery of my HD2 today.What do I need?
File Explorer? Total Explorer? Which version? According to the website none support the snapdragon processor(unless it has a different name)
What about to change visual aspects?
Is it just a case of finding a particular .cab file, loading it onto the SD card and installing?
And how does it work? If I install (for eg) transparent slider.cab ,then decide I dont want transparent just reduced transparency, do I need to uninstall the first one and install the second?
saldawop said:
Will be taking delivery of my HD2 today.What do I need?
File Explorer? Total Explorer? Which version? According to the website none support the snapdragon processor(unless it has a different name)
What about to change visual aspects?
Is it just a case of finding a particular .cab file, loading it onto the SD card and installing?
And how does it work? If I install (for eg) transparent slider.cab ,then decide I dont want transparent just reduced transparency, do I need to uninstall the first one and install the second?
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Seriously, wait till you've had the phone for about a week before doing anything to it. You sound like a puppy that's about to go for a walk! Chill man. Get to know the phone before you start changing it, or you'll just end up asking for things that it already does!
Yeah thanks.
Any answers to the questions I asked though?
saldawop said:
File Explorer? Total Explorer? Which version? According to the website none support the snapdragon processor(unless it has a different name)
What about to change visual aspects?
Is it just a case of finding a particular .cab file, loading it onto the SD card and installing?
And how does it work? If I install (for eg) transparent slider.cab ,then decide I dont want transparent just reduced transparency, do I need to uninstall the first one and install the second?
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File explorer will not let you copy/move certain files, but Total Commander, or Resco Explorer will. Just get the latest version, and don't worry about the processor. They run on Windows - they don't care about the processor.
If you install theme/visual changes, there's no hard-and-fast rule about what to do to replace the changes. Some of them you can uninstall and it restores the original look. Others don't. You can usually just install a new change over a previous one, but not always. You're gonna have to just find out through trial and error, or by asking, when you have specific questions to ask.
I wasn't being dismissive earlier - there's just no straight forward answer to such ambiguous questions.
Enjoy your new phone mate. I've had mine for 6 weeks now and I still love it like it was new yesterday!
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File explorer will not let you copy/move certain files
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Uhh... yes it does. Menu -> Edit -> Copy/Cut/Paste/Paste Shortcut. I've got Total Commander but I only really ever use it for registry tweaks.
DexyG said:
Uhh... yes it does. Menu -> Edit -> Copy/Cut/Paste/Paste Shortcut. I've got Total Commander but I only really ever use it for registry tweaks.
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Uhh... just because the options are there doesn't mean they work for every file. As you quoted me saying, "File explorer will not let you copy/move certain files" (certain files, not all files).
Thanks
Uhh... You're both right!
File Explorer will NOT let you copy/move/delete certain files
However it WILL let you copy/move/delete certain files
The key is the words 'certain files'. The 'certain files' John C is referring to are, for example, most of the files stored in the Windows folder and these tend to be exactly the ones we want to delete or rename. You WILL need one of the above-mentioned apps to mess around with them.
File Explorer is fine if you're only manipulating non-System files.
johnkst said:
Uhh... You're both right!
File Explorer will NOT let you copy/move/delete certain files
However it WILL let you copy/move/delete certain files
The key is the words 'certain files'. The 'certain files' John C is referring to are, for example, most of the files stored in the Windows folder and these tend to be exactly the ones we want to delete or rename. You WILL need one of the above-mentioned apps to mess around with them.
File Explorer is fine if you're only manipulating non-System files.
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I was only explaining that I wasn't wrong - he'd misread my statement. Obviously if it doesn't work for certain files then it does work for the rest. The context of the question suggests that the OP needed that explaining to him, or he'd only come back later and say "I can't copy this manila file into the windows folder", and we'd have to explain it to him then!
Bottom line, we're all right, and we're all trying to give the OP a concise answer (which I think he's got now)
Ah ok, my bad. Sorry.
Ahhh... That's nice...
Now we're all friends again, to come back to the OP's original question, I'm with John C on this. Take your time, get to know your phone and decide what you REALLY need first.
IMHO, the only thing you should install from the start is the BSB Tweaks cab (Just search the Leo forum for latest version - I think it's in a sticky somewhere). This will save you having to install a Registry Editor and installing a lot of these tweaks manually. It also makes it a lot easier to switch the tweaks on and off.
There are also some HTC updates now available (for Camera, SMS and SD Card). They have been out for a few days now and I haven't seen too many complaints, so I would say they are all safe to install...
Finally... ROM updates...
There are a couple now available from HTC. But again, unless you're experiencing a problem which you know has been fixed by these new ROMs, I would leave them alone. I've still got the original O2 ROM in my HD2 and it's working perfectly well, so I've not bothered to upgrade just yet.
All of the above is just my personal opinion. Hope you find it useful...
By the way, if you find BSB Tweaks (or any other cab that someone has invested time and effort into creating) useful, you might want to think about making a small donation. A $5 PayPal transaction is easily made, costs about the price of a pint (in the UK) and really makes these guys (and gals) faces light up!
Wont be updating the ROM. TBH I dont even know if I will be keeping the phone. I am an iPhone owner .
saldawop said:
Wont be updating the ROM. TBH I dont even know if I will be keeping the phone. I am an iPhone owner .
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Now you tell us...! ;-)
Just before we all get tarred with the same brush, I'm also an iPhone owner, and will be keeping my ROM-upgraded HD2 and selling my 3GS ;-)
Got my HD2.Although Im liking(not loving) it ,there are a couple ofthings I dont like.
1) I sometimes wake up to 30+ spam emails.Do I really have to open each one and delete them individually?(havent had the phone 24 hours so happy to be proved wrong)
2) I dislike the fact that when I delete an email from the phone, it deletes from the server
3)Dont like having to mess about opening different video players depending on codec (BUT it does play different codecs so cant really complain I guess)
4) This is probably down to not having too much time to play, but how do I get the screen to turn off? Is there a setting somewhere I can turn it off after x amount of time.Or do I HAVE to press the power button?
Got my HD2.Although Im liking(not loving) it ,there are a couple ofthings I dont like.
1) I sometimes wake up to 30+ spam emails.Do I really have to open each one and delete them individually?(havent had the phone 24 hours so happy to be proved wrong)
2) I dislike the fact that when I delete an email from the phone, it deletes from the server
3)Dont like having to mess about opening different video players depending on codec (BUT it does play different codecs so cant really complain I guess)
4) This is probably down to not having too much time to play, but how do I get the screen to turn off? Is there a setting somewhere I can turn it off after x amount of time.Or do I HAVE to press the power button?
5) Oh, and the Alarm!!! Is it possibly the worst alarm on a mobile phone ever?
Im not the heaviest of sleepers but there is a strong possibility that I would miss the 2 second alarm.
saldawop said:
Got my HD2.Although Im liking(not loving) it ,there are a couple ofthings I dont like.
1) I sometimes wake up to 30+ spam emails.Do I really have to open each one and delete them individually?(havent had the phone 24 hours so happy to be proved wrong)
2) I dislike the fact that when I delete an email from the phone, it deletes from the server
3)Dont like having to mess about opening different video players depending on codec (BUT it does play different codecs so cant really complain I guess)
4) This is probably down to not having too much time to play, but how do I get the screen to turn off? Is there a setting somewhere I can turn it off after x amount of time.Or do I HAVE to press the power button?
5) Oh, and the Alarm!!! Is it possibly the worst alarm on a mobile phone ever?
Im not the heaviest of sleepers but there is a strong possibility that I would miss the 2 second alarm.
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1) You can click on "Inbox" then Menu->Select Messages->Several, Choose the messages you want to mark as read then Menu->Mark as read/delete
2) I kindof makes sence to delete the email - keep the two in sync or is that only my perception on things
3) Try use one codec possibly, I'm certain there are different players out there with the ability to play a wider range its just a case of looking (sorry i don't really use my phone for music/multiple video formats)
4) Yes there is a setting settings->sound and display->backlight
5)Agreed it is rubbish I've tried G alarm because everyone seems to rave about it but i wasn't too keen but you could still try it and it does do the alarm sound for longer than 2 rings
Thanks for that Strange though because the screen is set to switch off after 1 minute. It doesn't! Was still on when I woke up this morning

Cooking for Dummies :)

Hi guys,
I wanted to give cooking a try and was wondering what the easiest approach for me would be.
My goal is to use the official ROM as a basis and
a) remove an app such as CoPilot
b) add an app such as Pigeon
What tools etc. would I need?
Thanks for any hints
remove/add prgs is no ROM-cooking, it´s removing and adding apps .........
So then tell me, how can I remove CoPilot?
Anyway, the two points were starters...
I'm sure I will do more modifications later on.
Search for 'kitchen' and you'll get more info on it
pub00515 said:
So then tell me, how can I remove CoPilot?
Anyway, the two points were starters...
I'm sure I will do more modifications later on.
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Move Copilot-prog to SD-card with Resco-Expl. and then uninstall it, Afterwards make a reg clean-up with reg cleaner (a little bit crude though but worked nicely for me )
troed said:
Move Copilot-prog to SD-card with Resco-Expl. and then uninstall it, Afterwards make a reg clean-up with reg cleaner (a little bit crude though but worked nicely for me )
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If you do that there are still files in the ROM you can't get rid of. Plus a duplicate of what you just deleted, don't forget the files that are in Program files after a hard reset must come from somewhere
Complete removal can only be done by cooking, and it saves quite a bit of space indeed.

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