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Uninstalling?

Is there a "correct" way to install apps from wm5?
Or can i just delete the program files? Im thinking of removing H button as ive not found it useful,works well with the hermes...
cheers guys

geekyhawkes said:
Is there a "correct" way to install apps from wm5?
Or can i just delete the program files? Im thinking of removing H button as ive not found it useful,works well with the hermes...
cheers guys
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Star>settings>system>remove programs
is the classic way to remove programs. Some applications have an un-installer lots do not. Some may not appear in remove programs and without great guru like skills the only way may be to just delete the obvious files.
What I do from time to time is to use Sktools from time to time to remove bad shortcuts and registry entries - along with other accumulated rubbish.
Mike

SKtools...To be or not to be...?

I guys,
I have this doubt floating in my mind since some time...
If I run all sktools regarding cleaning and registry optimization, such as:
-Clean!
-Optimize!
-Tune Up!
-Invalid Registry Entries
-Invalid Registry Values
-Advanced Clean
-Registry Optimizer
Can it happen that it will wrongly detect some tweaks or corrections made by the cookers as errors in the registry and then eliminate them?
For example, if a cooker changes a value in the registry key to optimize something, Sktools can "think" that it's an error, and then change the key to it's default value, eliminating the optimization done by the cooker...
Is this possible to happen? Or can I use safely the tools from SKtools?
Thankx

I would recommend against using anything like that as it is possible your remove keys that make your rom unstable. Advice is install and stay as you are!

Nighthawk2050 said:
I would recommend against using anything like that as it is possible your remove keys that make your rom unstable. Advice is install and stay as you are!
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What???
Off course errors/mistakes could happen, but I think that some registry tool is very needed, specially in Windows mobile...
I'm not sure but when this kind of tools search the registry, they only seek for errors in the connections or links.
So I don't think they will delete any tweaks done by the cooker if the tweak is working good.

I use this software to clean up,remove stuff,optimize,tweaks etc... and I have never had any issues whatsoever,if you ask me it works like a charm that´s why I bought it and my xda is really stable all the time.
These are the features I use the most.
-Clean!
-Optimize!
-Tune Up!
-Advanced Clean
-Registry Optimizer
Once I flash I use "Tune up" to change the PIE cache location,cookies,history,messaging files etc....after this "optimize" for better perfomance/stability/memory it´s up to you.Once I´ve done installing apps I use "Clean" and that´s it.

It does remove needed registry keys/values, can't give a specific example tho, you better examine the list of items to be deleted one by one before actually deleting them completely.
The only thing I use from SKTools is FreeRAM.

Sorry.
To me looks like it works well.....I´m sure it´s my lack of knowledge,but when I set it up that way with sktools and it seems to work so well,that´s why I mentioned that.

So..... I've just installed a new rom, an before installing anything else, I installed SKtools, and made a search for Invalid Registry Entries, and it found a couple of them (around 6 or 7).
Is it possible that a ROM is cooked with registry errors already inside?...Or could it be that SKtools is not that reliable...?
And, should I delete those registry strings or not?
Bye

So, no comments/thoughts about this???....
Strange....

s1rl4ncel0t said:
So, no comments/thoughts about this???....
Strange....
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You better not delete any registry entries untill or unless you know what it's for. Say for example, if you see that these are coming from a programme that you have uninstalled from your phone, you can close your eyes and delete those. Even that also sometime is bad because, lot of them may be shared with other system stuffs.
I have found some blank registry entries and deleted them, later when I have rebooted the trinity, I had some strange errors(I forgot). Anyway, it don't bring any gains in cleaning registries for fast booting of system, but temporary locations or IE cache to increase your available memory yes.
The basic purpose of a registry cleaning(applicable for pc also!) is that , if there is any error message after booting up your system, or some special errors coming from a particular programme after it launches(depends on the message it gives!) , in that case, it could have been good to run those kind of registry cleaner stuffs.
So you can leave them.

I agree with Provat,
I would say that you have to be aware about what you want to remove.
I use SKtoll too but now I must be careful on what I do with that because on the past I have removed lot of things and the only solution was hard reset.
Nevertheless it's a good tool and it improves a lot. Personnaly, I only use "optimize for performance" option.

Is there a Cab for this ?

Nighthawk2050 said:
Is there a Cab for this ?
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Google is your friend :
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html

Please, could someone tell me how can I find in SK Tools the FreeUP RAM and Optimize for Performance parts?
thanks

I used SKtools to uninstall Google Maps and didn't scroll thru the results as I usually do. It virtually left my memory card void. All I had left was a shell of a rom...none of the shortcuts worked...all my files were gone. I had to use a recovery program to get most of it back...I still ain't right. I wanted to use their cleaning tool...it came back with so many results and I thought about what happened and just canceled it. I'll stick Memmaid unless someone can tell me the proper cleaner settings for SKtools.

CUBE .....no flash needed!

Easy "Cube" in stall in two CAB's....no flash-lite needed. No confiration needed.
I added the configuration cab in just incase you want to mod it.. but its not necessary.

This put a whole bunch of bs on my phone I can't get rid of. Looks like I'm gonna have to hard reset.

Your the only one.........

forceking85 said:
This put a whole bunch of bs on my phone I can't get rid of. Looks like I'm gonna have to hard reset.
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A simple " Didn't work out too well on my device. I will explain what happened..." would have sufficed. This way we can all learn and maybe together figure out what went wrong. Maybe it was operator error?
Please be considerate towards the time and work it takes others to develop, test, implement and share these mods as those who have the create spark do not have to. You CHOSE to load this app and as I see it, everything here is shared & loaded on a "At your own risk". I have had a 101:1 ratio of good to bad so...
Now could you explain what happened on your device when you attempted to install?

It said the program couldn't be loaded and then when I removed it left a whole lot of folders in my windows folder that can't be deleted.

Cube
It works great. I have it installed with the ftouchFLo 1.4.1 release I have no problems. it is great.

what are these startups?

Hey all.
New owner of the X1 and so far loving the phone.
I've currently got the following on startup on my X1 and I was wondering if someone could be kind enough to explain what it loads and if it's ok to delete:
AutoShortcut
PanelDefault
Panelmanager
poutlook
cheers

I would hazard a guess that poutlook is Pocket Outlook, and PanelDefault / Panelmanager run the Panels interface for Xperia phones.
I don't mean to be nasty or rude, but if you didn't know what Panelmanager is then that suggests that you should perhaps spend some time learning more about your device before you start deleting stuff.
For now I suggest you leave things be and just enjoy playing with it.

Mr Anderson said:
I would hazard a guess that poutlook is Pocket Outlook, and PanelDefault / Panelmanager run the Panels interface for Xperia phones.
I don't mean to be nasty or rude, but if you didn't know what Panelmanager is then that suggests that you should perhaps spend some time learning more about your device before you start deleting stuff.
For now I suggest you leave things be and just enjoy playing with it.
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thanks for the reply. The advice I'm looking for is what would happen if I deleted the above?

whoseline said:
thanks for the reply. The advice I'm looking for is what would happen if I deleted the above?
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You could create a backup of your settings and try it out for yourself, if you do not want to heed other people's warnings.
1) Panel Manager would not load (so no panel when u restart the phone).
For the other files you have the description here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410139&page=16
Also you should (have) post(ed) in a section that's designed just for you guys...

stormlv said:
You could create a backup of your settings and try it out for yourself, if you do not want to heed other people's warnings.
1) Panel Manager would not load (so no panel when u restart the phone).
For the other files you have the description here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410139&page=16
Also you should (have) post(ed) in a section that's designed just for you guys...
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Thanks for the bad attitude reply. If you don't have anything nice to say, ignore post.
I believe I posted in the right section, if i didn't I apologies but let the admins worry about that.

Hey, come on...play fair. There's no bad attitude here, stormlv is trying to be helpful, as am I.
Another option you have is to RENAME the files with a different extension so they are no longer recognised and the OS won't know what to do with them so they won't run.
That way you can discover what the behaviour of the device is, and if it doesn't please you then you just rename them back again.

if you are not using outlook then you could try deleting that and for panel manager i am not sure because sometime before i have had panel manager crash but the panel interface still works so maybe it restarts its self when you press the panel button - as Mr Anderson said renaming the files would be a good way to test which ones you do and dont want

one should avoid deleting anything beyond the Windows folder unless you know what you are doing.
any files to delete would be stored in ur device documents folder, like pics, vids, and other stuff that i call demo files

Can the T-Mobile system files be removed... no harm done?

I'm wondering if various included applications such as the Bing widget, Blockbuster Mobile, B&N eReader, the Gameloft game demos, and so on... could be removed? SAFELY, of course.
They just create what seems to be (and probably is) unnecessary system bulk. Not to mention, those game demos are completely hideous, and they obscure the potentially "uncluttered" Start Menu applications tray that could be had.
Could someone perhaps offer a bit of insight, maybe even enlighten me a little bit on this topic? Thanks.

Reignzone said:
I'm wondering if various included applications such as the Bing widget, Blockbuster Mobile, B&N eReader, the Gameloft game demos, and so on... could be removed? SAFELY, of course.
They just create what seems to be (and probably is) unnecessary system bulk. Not to mention, those game demos are completely hideous, and they obscure the potentially "uncluttered" Start Menu applications tray that could be had.
Could someone perhaps offer a bit of insight, maybe even enlighten me a little bit on this topic? Thanks.
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They can be removed in a cooked ROM, not sure if it is safe for a user to try and remove the files though. Remove one of the wrong files and you have a problem. Most of my ROMS I remove all of this stuff for the same reasons you mentioned.

i just did. everything's fine, except I accidentally deleted opera too, but thats easy to be cabbed back.

Thanks for shedding some light on this topic fellas. Great feedback. But yeah, I kind of figured that the icons could be removed from the Start Menu tray, the program files could be deleted, (with a system warning - of course) and it seems that even after that things SHOULD BE just fine.
From what I understand though... T-Mobile has made sure that some of these third-party apps cannot be deleted. For instance, I'd like to know if TeleNav and MobiTV can be rid of as well. Seriously, once freeing OUR version of the HTC HD2 of all this corporate junk and clutter from T-Mobile partnerships... it'll be very, very quick. (As if it's NOT already...)

Reignzone said:
Thanks for shedding some light on this topic fellas. Great feedback. But yeah, I kind of figured that the icons could be removed from the Start Menu tray, the program files could be deleted, (with a system warning - of course) and it seems that even after that things SHOULD BE just fine.
From what I understand though... T-Mobile has made sure that some of these third-party apps cannot be deleted. For instance, I'd like to know if TeleNav and MobiTV can be rid of as well. Seriously, once freeing OUR version of the HTC HD2 of all this corporate junk and clutter from T-Mobile partnerships... it'll be very, very quick. (As if it's NOT already...)
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there is nothing T-Mobile has put into this rom that can not be removed when cooking. it is just a pain to find where they have implemented all the crap, some times is in more then one place the same change.

Shortcuts will be under \Windows\Start menu\Programs, related program files will be under \Program Files, shouldnt cause any issues deleting them.

jlavoie said:
there is nothing T-Mobile has put into this rom that can not be removed when cooking. it is just a pain to find where they have implemented all the crap, some times is in more then one place the same change.
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Very true. However, would you suggest that the average Windows Mobile user attempt to dump, remove various things, then throw it all together, OR... simply use Resco File Explorer to remove the unwanted programs, system files, etc.?
I used to develop for Android, but this stuff is an entirely different ball game to me. So, I'm trying to learn the YES and NO basics here. Thanks.

Reignzone said:
Very true. However, would you suggest that the average Windows Mobile user attempt to dump, remove various things, then throw it all together, OR... simply use Resco File Explorer to remove the unwanted programs, system files, etc.?
I used to develop for Android, but this stuff is an entirely different ball game to me. So, I'm trying to learn the YES and NO basics here. Thanks.
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cooking is the best way to remove things you do not want. a user can delete all the crap they want but this will not give them more storage (files cook in can not be deleted just hidden) but rater just hide things they do not want to see. just remember that if you delete a program, make sure nothing else uses it.

efjay said:
Shortcuts will be under \Windows\Start menu\Programs, related program files will be under \Program Files, shouldnt cause any issues deleting them.
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jlavoie said:
cooking is the best way to remove things you do not want. a user can delete all the crap they want but this will not give them more storage (files cook in can not be deleted just hidden) but rater just hide things they do not want to see. just remember that if you delete a program, make sure nothing else uses it.
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Alright, thanks guys. Always appreciated for a bit of feedback.
THIS THREAD CAN BE CLOSED NOW... unless other T-Mobile USA HD2 users find this in any way, shape, or form helpful to continue. Thanks again.

Reignzone said:
I'm wondering if various included applications such as the Bing widget, Blockbuster Mobile, B&N eReader, the Gameloft game demos, and so on... could be removed? SAFELY, of course.
They just create what seems to be (and probably is) unnecessary system bulk. Not to mention, those game demos are completely hideous, and they obscure the potentially "uncluttered" Start Menu applications tray that could be had.
Could someone perhaps offer a bit of insight, maybe even enlighten me a little bit on this topic? Thanks.
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They can be reomoved but the registry has to be edited to remove some of the keys.Do one at a time and make sure the phone works ok for a few days before going on to the next.

you can do it but i wouldnt reconmmend it unless u know what ur doin but will say the each program is spidered in to the device the best sure way is to upgrade to a cooked rom but i must say but..............
WARNING U CAN CHANGE UR ROM BUT DOING SO WILL VOID UR WARRENTY WITH TMOBILE AND CAN AND WILL SPEND ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO 100 US CURENCY DOLLARS ON HAVING HTC DOWNGRADE UR DEVICE BACK TO ITS SHIPPED STATE BUT YES IT CAN BE DONE AND THERE OFFICE IS EITHER TEXAS OR CALIFORNIA I FORGET AND CAN TAKE UPTO 2WEEKS BUT I WILL SAY IT WORTH THE RISK JUST READ BEFORE U MOD........

ive deleted everything but telenav and mobitv, and no issues

Even though these programs don't show up in the Remove applications, they are able to be removed manually to release the storage--if you know where the files are located. (icons and shortcuts are easily removed).
However, whenever you do a hardware reset, they will come back, since they are part of the ROM which they could not be removed there.