Hi folks!
Reading some threads about IE6 coming embedded into some new ROMs, I noticed I've got my machine with both Opera and IE, but I've not been able to "check" my IE version (not 6 indeed as it's different from videos posted in YouTube).
Is there any way to determine te current version?
Is there any way to upgrade?
Flashing a new ROM just to get IE6 looks overwhelming, not to mention if you have to change your device language on the go.
Opera has not solved my browsing needs, I still have to use my Tablet PC for "serious" browsing. Maybe not that long?
Any ideas or news?
Regards.
all WinMo 6 and 6.1 come with Pocket IE4 (the etch-a-sketch of mobile browsers)
this is what Touch HD ships with
FYI - WinMo with pocket IE 6 is labeled as version 6.1.4
and it will not be better than Opera
Sir.B said:
all WinMo 6 and 6.1 come with Pocket IE4 (the etch-a-sketch of mobile browsers)
this is what Touch HD ships with
FYI - WinMo with pocket IE 6 is labeled as version 6.1.4
and it will not be better than Opera
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Thanks for info Sir.B
Anyway, it looks like IE6 Mobile supports flash and java, this actually is better that what Opera performs.
No matter how "nice" Opera is, it falls short on "basic" issues, like flash.
I don't mind the manufacturer, but my needs go beyond current browsers. In fact my Terra web-mail doesn't work.
Regards.
Hi,
If IE 6.0 really provides full Flash support it'd be a very good alternative to Opera Missing Flash is my biggest (ONLY) disappointment since acquiring my first Pocket PC...
Regards,
Rolf
Blame Adobe for not delivering full flash-plugin for Windows Mobile. Opera supports some basic flash if u install FlashLite.
New IE wont probably come officially for there days devices, as Microsoft have said that it will require some "next generation" hardware.
Hi Vinski,
Thanks for your contribution
Vinski- said:
Opera supports some basic flash if u install FlashLite.
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This sounds interesting Do you mean to tell me that we have to install it manually on the Blackstone ? I thought the version of Opera on our devices came with FlashLite already installed ?
New IE wont probably come officially for there days devices, as Microsoft have said that it will require some "next generation" hardware.
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Then I hope they will wait until/untill (how many l's?) the end of next year, haha... Can only afford one new phone a year
Regards,
Rolf
Not yet....
Vinski- said:
Blame Adobe for not delivering full flash-plugin for Windows Mobile. Opera supports some basic flash if u install FlashLite.
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This is too basic, a half-way only. It's extremelly unstable (at least in my experience, I was forced to uninstall Flash Lite after so many hangs-up) and also not fully supported: Flash buttons calling a new frame are displayed but they are not operational. This is just a too limited embedded Flash player, not really very functional....
Vinski- said:
New IE wont probably come officially for there days devices, as Microsoft have said that it will require some "next generation" hardware.
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IT'S BEING DELIVERED right now on new Asian HD roms, so our current machines should be enough. Isn't?
To enable in outlook:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox]
"UseCcpControl"=dword:00000001
Requires COM4 or COM3 of some version within the last two(?) weeks.
Use:
- Click and hold on any text.
- selection anchors appear surrounding selected text (default is word under your finger) along with buttons for copy, select, paste etc as appropriate.
A) Selection a command
B) click and hold on anchors. Once buttons disappear (anchors remain) move finger to create a selection.
When done releast and copy icon will appear.
The click and hold part is annoying (you have to wait too long) but it is surprisingly effective for clipboard junkies like me.
Thanks to HTC.
New contacts managment UI in COM4 Build 23412+. Nicely done, well integrated.
Thanks to the Maldives team.
Can you provide some screenshot of it?
also does build 23041 have these features?
THX
pidsw said:
Requires COM4 or COM3 of some version within the last two(?) weeks.
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New contacts managment UI in COM4 Build 23412+.
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Hi, I don't understand this at all. Is this referring to a build of WindowsMobile? if so, is this just for 6.5 builds? I am using the most recent 6.1 build, as seem in these specs here: (Windows Mobile 6.1 Build 21051 )
http://thewingster.com/juststable.aspx
What does COM4 or COM3 mean?
Essentially i am trying to see if i can use this.
If not, I will be satisfied with the select/copy/paste built in tools from QuickMenu, and those from FingerKeyboard as well.
thank you
quicksite said:
Hi, I don't understand this at all. Is this referring to a build of WindowsMobile? if so, is this just for 6.5 builds? I am using the most recent 6.1 build, as seem in these specs here: (Windows Mobile 6.1 Build 21051 )
http://thewingster.com/juststable.aspx
What does COM4 or COM3 mean?
Essentially i am trying to see if i can use this.
If not, I will be satisfied with the select/copy/paste built in tools from QuickMenu, and those from FingerKeyboard as well.
thank you
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Yes he's talking about WM 6.5. I still am not sure what exactly he's refering too but it seems that MS has made a new Contacts GUI in their most recent build.
COM4/3 are branches of WM 6.5. One branch working on 6.5 the other 6.5.1.
kaiser 6.5.1 build 23052 - do not work
i love your sig file!
just happened to see it after reviewing some serach results here... nice!
obaz said:
kaiser 6.5.1 build 23052 - do not work
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Hi there!
Could anyone owning a HD2 check how SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 is running on it?
Software Trial:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/mobileshell/download.html
That's an interesting question. I have just put SPB MS 3.5 on my TP and it completely disabled my Touchflo. If that were to happen on the Leo then I would think it might stop the capacitive screen working.
I've had MS on every windows device I've ever owned (5 of them) yet this might be the first time I stick with TF3D....the new 'sense' as it's being called looks so good it might just be the thing that I want.
TF3D was all form and no fucntion, it was far to difficult to perform any real use and just increased the number of presses and swipes needed to actually do anything. The new one doesn't seem to suffer the same thing....but I'll only be able to tell once I get my hands on it
Tomo1340 said:
If that were to happen on the Leo then I would think it might stop the capacitive screen working.
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Why would it stop the screen working?
vangrieg said:
Why would it stop the screen working?
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WM 6.5 isn't designed for capacitive screens, I suspect that HTC have programmed it to work in the TouchFlo3.5 Sense UI, as such disabling it could potentially render the screen useless.
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WM 6.5 isn't designed for capacitive screens, I suspect that HTC have programmed it to work in the TouchFlo3.5 Sense UI, as such disabling it could potentially render the screen useless.
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the start menu works as well as the other native microsoft screens. I doubt sense has anything to do with the screen actually working. IN fact, there are devs ripping sense out of there and making a lite version of the Leo ROM as we speak.
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the start menu works as well as the other native microsoft screens. I doubt sense has anything to do with the screen actually working. IN fact, there are devs ripping sense out of there and making a lite version of the Leo ROM as we speak.
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What would a lite version of the Leo ROM actually include if Sense is ripped out?
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WM 6.5 isn't designed for capacitive screens, I suspect that HTC have programmed it to work in the TouchFlo3.5 Sense UI, as such disabling it could potentially render the screen useless.
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TouchFlo is ONLY a front screen interface and in no way takes over the control of your device from Windows Mobile. Im sure the correct drivers and everything are in place to make the capacitive screen work perfectly with WM6.5 or you wouldnt be able to run any of the standard Windows Mobile Programs from the Start Menu.
TouchFlo can easily be disabled through the Today screen settings and other front screen interfaces such as Mobile Shell run in its place. The 2 cannot run side by side but as with any other phone you can turn 1 off and start another quite easily.
The only problem with newer Windows Mobile versions such as 6.5.1 is that they have a menubar at the bottom for easy operation of the Start Menu, ok button and other things. From my experience this menubar isnt disabled when Mobile Shell is installed meaning that it overlays the bottom menubar in Mobile Shell, which in turn causes problems. Im sure spb will fix this problem as WM advances and adds more touch friendly functionality.
The things that said capacitive on WM was unsupported are utter rubbish. What it requires is an OEM to write drivers for it. Since HTC have done this, it's supported.
Manila is just a UI enhancement, it's not anything to do with the screen, the drivers etc.
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The things that said capacitive on WM was unsupported are utter rubbish. What it requires is an OEM to write drivers for it. Since HTC have done this, it's supported.
Manila is just a UI enhancement, it's not anything to do with the screen, the drivers etc.
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But it's a UI enhancement designed to increase usability on a device with a capacitive screen. Without the new version of Manila you won't necessarily have access to the HTC-skinned versions of WM6.5 utilities, which means you'll be back to using software that is designed to be used with a stylus on a platform that doesn't support stylus use.
I only took a short glimpse into a Leo ROM, and it's different from, say, Topaz/Rhodium ones in that Manila is broken into more packages (Core, Music, Settings, Footprints etc.). So it might theoretically be possible to use just some Manila features if someone bothers to actually investigate the opportunities and do an insane amount work required to materialize them.
Fair comments, I was under the impression that the drivers were part of HTC sense. Also that HTC sense is designed to not be turned off so easy. So from that I drew a natural conclusion that if you were able to turn Sense off, or an application forced it off like SPB MS3.5 does then that would make the drivers not function as they were part of the working Sense UI.
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The only problem with newer Windows Mobile versions such as 6.5.1 is that they have a menubar at the bottom for easy operation of the Start Menu, ok button and other things. From my experience this menubar isnt disabled when Mobile Shell is installed meaning that it overlays the bottom menubar in Mobile Shell, which in turn causes problems. Im sure spb will fix this problem as WM advances and adds more touch friendly functionality.
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On my TYTN2 with WM 6.5.1.23053, there's no overlay with MS3.5. Not sure what build of MS you are using but for me it's just fine.
I have tested MS3.5 on Acer F1 (same CPU as HD2) and it was very smooth. However, when going in landscape, it was slower than my TYTN2 in landscape. It could be a graphic driver issue, which I hope won't be on HD2.
Righto guys - got the SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 trial installed on my MD2 - what do you want me to test?
It has a very Android feel to the OS - kinda parallex scrolling background...
Once installed, it disables the Sense UI.
WildWayz said:
Righto guys - got the SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 trial installed on my MD2 - what do you want me to test?
It has a very Android feel to the OS - kinda parallex scrolling background...
Once installed, it disables the Sense UI.
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MD2? I think we already sorted out that it will work fine with TouchFLO disabled LOL
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MD2? I think we already sorted out that it will work fine with TouchFLO disabled LOL
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Sorry meant HD2.
I didnt disable TouchFlo - it did it itself.
One thing i've noticed, if you enable hardware acceleration on the SPB, the whole 'carosol' goes slow and unresponsive...
I thought it would be better as the HD2 is meant to use OpenGL?
oh no, not again! no drivers......
WildWayz said:
Sorry meant HD2.
I didnt disable TouchFlo - it did it itself.
One thing i've noticed, if you enable hardware acceleration on the SPB, the whole 'carosol' goes slow and unresponsive...
I thought it would be better as the HD2 is meant to use OpenGL?
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I guess it depends how spb makes use of hardware acceleration enabled devices. With it turned off it should still run very fast and smooth so not too much to worry about i think. You should install one of my MS3.5 themes (in my sig) and see how it looks I think it would look nice with ProPlus Elegance and all the extra widgets
4pe said:
oh no, not again! no drivers......
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The HD2 has OpenGL drivers as proved in this stress test against the original HD *HERE*
WildWayz said:
Righto guys - got the SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 trial installed on my MD2 - what do you want me to test?
It has a very Android feel to the OS - kinda parallex scrolling background...
Once installed, it disables the Sense UI.
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Cool WildWayz! Thanks a lot, I'm just happy that it works and doesn't have quirks of one or the other kind
Yes you should try and mess around with some of mskip's stuff if you like
Maybe you can say how the general feel is? Speed/smoothness -how is it on the capacitive screen? And I don't know if you intend to keep on using it -but it would be very interesting to hear if there is an effect on battery life..
cheers!
Hi,
in all the Reports about the HD2 they allways say "Multitouch" but i was not able to find out, how many touches at the same time the HD2 can recognize.
Is there anyone who has an answer for me?
greetz
virtually unlimited.
so is there an application around which uses more then two right now?
So far I've only seen dualtouch on HD2. But it might be capable of more than just dualtouch..
LOL
Physically the hardware may be unlimited but WM 6.5 can only support 1 touch!!!
HTC worked around this for the PZ in Sense, but there is no native support for multitouch at all.
WM7 Should do though so keep waiting and hoping..............
i see! thanks for that!
hopefully microsoft and htc will hear our prayers!
That is not entirely true. WM6 might not support multitouch officially. That does not mean HTC does not use it's own extensions. It does.
You must enable multitouch for each application in similar way as rotate (there is white list in registry). Then new events are sent to the window, which allows you to use more 'cursors' at the same time. Of course application must be made to support that. I've seen some demo (which only showed 2 cursors actually), and there was documentation too, unfortunately I can't remember where it was.
Hi Everyone
I know that this might not be exactly the right place, but at least the HD2 is a Multi-Touch Device
I´m currently using a Toshiba TG02 with Windows Mobile 6.5.3 which should have Multitouch Support build in the OS (at least thats what official Announcements from Microsoft say) and I´m wondering if there´s any Chance to use it?
Any Ideas? I assume even though the plattform is very similar to the HD2 the HTC Drivers and/or Multitouch enabled Software won´t work...
And just to avoid the first Questions: Yes it´s a TG02 and not the TG01 and it definetly has a Capacitive Touchscreen ;-)