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Embedded Flash in PIE or Opera

There are a lot of threads about this subject but somehow non of them where able to help me to get embedded Flash in websites.
I've installed the Flash 7 ActiveX plugin, installed Flash Lite. Together and separately. Reboots, instructions from this forum and instructions from Adobe.. nothing seems to help. I use the latest PIE and Opera Mobile 8.65.
When I visit www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ in PIE I get a message that Flash version 7,0,70,0 is installed but without the embedded Flash element you would expect that says "Adobe Flash Player is installed.", like on a PC. When I visit the same page in Opera I don't get any messages about successful installations.
Is there something I'm doing wrong? If you need more details about somethings; let me know...

First post here... please be kind...
Actually, I've been looking for such a solution myself. Very easy to test my own website (www.LauraBraniganOnline.com) since I have Flash snippets on the top of each page that I purposely coded to read down to Flash 5...
Had an Axim x51v, Flash seemed to work OK... now got rid of that when I got my new AT&T/Cingular Tilt (HTC Kaiser), their latest ROM but hard-resetted and soft-resetted so I don't get AT&T's extra crap... btw doing this works fine for me.
But have Flash Lite 2.1 developer installed, had the Flash 6 installed, now have Flash 7 ActiveX installed, nothing works on any other browser but PIE (believe it or not, have Opera Mobile 8.65, MiniMo, and NetFront all installed).
Being from Philly originally, love to listen to KYW-AM news radio over the Internet, works fine on my laptop, dies on my new Kaiser... assuming that CBS coded their latest player at a Flash level higher than 7.
ANYWAY... what with all that background (are you all still awake... ), I'm wondering if there are any other back-end, side-end or otherwise workarounds to get OTHER browsers than PIE to read at least Flash applets coded for 7 or below... at least until the behemoth that is Adobe decides to actually give the incredibly exploding numbers of Mobile platform users a Flash player that actually works with WM6 and its growing number of non IE browsers. Heck, you'd think if they were so eager to push the Flash technology on everyone on the planet after buying out the much-loved Macromedia (I still use my good-ol' copy of Macromedia Dreamweaver!), that they'd have a mobile solution that actually works for those of us who still think that Microsoft is doing their own mobile users an injustice with a PIE that hasn't changed nearly at all from the old Pocket PC 2002 days...
Sorry for the rant -- spent about 5 days searching for a solution... and either I'm missing it, or it's really hidden... or it just isn't there yet... maybe we haven't bribed Adobe & Microsoft with enough $$$ to actually have them work on this...
BereanPK

BOLT the new browser

hie guys did a search and it appeares this new browser http://boltbrowser.com/
hasnt been mentioned yet on our blackstone forum has anyone tried it yet and what are your thoughts to those who have tried it thanks

I really doubt that this browser will be capable of things they advertise. I suspect fake/malware...
EDIT:
I was wrong, its real

anyone tested this?

I dimly remember Skyfire ... it seems to be similar to this one. I think it first appeared spring 2008.
But I never heard about it again and I just don't trust it ^^
http://www.skyfire.com/

I use skyfire. To be able to use it on he beloved HD, you somehow need to decrease resolution. Skyfire is great for flash.
Has anyone tryied "Bolt" ?

Finally, Bolt - the public version of the Thunderhawk browser that is around for a while. Tough sell, a browser that relies on proxy server-side image rendering, similar to Skyfire and Opera Mobile. So how will they make money? Data-mining usage patterns, subscriptions or ads - no one got to work it until now. Good luck, the environment is hostile to your concept...

Guys--Bitstream is a real (and real old) company in Cambrdige, MA. Started out as a typeface company. They are the Thunderhawk people, for whatever that's worth. It looks to me like Bolt is an alpha release masquerading as a beta or version 1 or something, but I'm going to try it because it's from Bitstream.
Sandra

i tried to install this with all 4 links and the untrusted one is al that will work. Unfortunately it tries to launch and the app freezes. Not working. Someone please try it and tell me if it is just me.

mallman said:
i tried to install this with all 4 links and the untrusted one is al that will work. Unfortunately it tries to launch and the app freezes. Not working. Someone please try it and tell me if it is just me.
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aq soft reset got it working but can confirm flash doesnt work

i downloaded but i got a oddly named file with no extension... sszu6w... not sure if i'm to rename to sszu6w.cab or what... guidance anyone?

Windows Mobile phones: Skyfire runs on Microsoft Windows 5, 6, and 6.1. We support VGA and QVGA screen resolutions. Skyfire runs on many popular Windows Mobile phones including the HTC Tilt, HTC Touch Diamond, HTC Fuze, Motorola Q and Q9, Palm Pro, Palm 800W and Samsung Blackjack II. To check if your phone is compatible with our OS and resolution requirements, please refer to the Microsoft website.
Skyfire will not run on Windows Mobile PDAs. Skyfire runs on phones only.
Skyfire will not run on WVGA Windows Mobile phones.

wapreview.com have got 500 referral codes to get a download link for Bolt.
Just got mine.

Downloaded and tried it. Very similar to Opera Mini. Visited youtube.com and clicking on a video just opened a .3gp stream which opened up in Coreplayer. Not really any use on the Touch HD as there was really no way I could see to navigate around due to the lack of hardware buttons.

I too have the same files on "my documents" folder and cannot open, based on BOLT's install instructions it supposed to download the browser and rights stuff but nothing actually downloads to the folder....I too need help

Latest Opera Mobile Version VGA 6 Flash..!!

[REQ] Latest Opera Mobile Version VGA (the TURBO one) & Flash..??
Hi people, i' ve been away for a while, which Opera version is the last suitable for the Diamond? and which abobe flash player is the latest...!! is it still not able to play Flash 9 contains...??
THX in advance

u can get a version that works with Flashlite 2.
search should find it
and u should have put [REQ] in the title to make it easier to understand.

search and you shall be enlightened:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401643

THX for the Infos mugglesquop, supersanj but the search function just drops needless entries.
In some way the goal of a forum is to get questions answered, even if they could be stupid, don't you think so...??
**the thread above does not offer accurate information, for example..!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3129125&postcount=1614

qtek_metanol said:
THX for the Infos mugglesquop, supersanj but the search function just drops needless entries.
In some way the goal of a forum is to get questions answered, even if they could be stupid, don't you think so...??
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yes, but i was just telling you that it has been done, but i do not have the files you require. i know they are on this forum, but cannot remember where.

mugglesquop said:
yes, but i was just telling you that it has been done, but i do not have the files you require. i know they are on this forum, but cannot remember where.
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THX again for the Info mugglesquop, I was asking about Opera, because the anounncing from Opera Turbo is everywhere around, i supose maybe some insider around xda-dev dispose of that files. Did you saw the new feature of Diamond 2 faster internet surfing? well, here is the answer.
Opera unveils turbo-charged browsing at Mobile World Congress 2009
Oslo, Norway and Barcelona, Spain – February 12, 2009
Just when you thought browsing couldn't get any faster, Opera unveils its latest innovation for better browsing, Opera Turbo. This all-new, turbo-charged way to surf will make its exclusive appearance at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona from February 16-19, 2009.
To be available for business customers on Opera Desktop, Opera Mobile and Opera Devices SDK, Opera Turbo compresses bandwidth consumption. By processing data being sent to a mobile phone or a PC by up to 80 percent, operators will be able to reduce network traffic and save on data transmissions. This helps to extend the longevity of their mobile network investments. For device manufacturers, Opera Turbo provides a faster browsing application that can leverage device capabilities and utilize hardware resources more effectively. By leveraging Opera Turbo, operators and OEMs can provide a faster browsing experience to their end-users, independent of network constraints or hardware limitations.
Due to Opera Turbo's advanced compression technology, even devices with limited hardware capabilities show improved page download rates and better overall performance. By leveraging its experience with server-side optimization solutions such as Opera Mini, Opera Software is extending optimization to encompass other Opera browser products. Opera Turbo is able to reduce the size of the transferred page without transcoding the page. Opera Turbo offers full support for dynamic Web technologies such as Ajax and Flash - these are not compressed by Opera Turbo.
Opera Turbo supports Opera's belief in "One Web", providing equal access to the Internet regardless of the device or network quality. Opera has focused on a way to improve performance and the overall speed of its browser under any condition, whether surfing from a limited mobile phone in a remote location or with an early model desktop computer on a dial-up modem. To Opera, One Web means being able to take the one true Web and make it available to people on their own terms. Opera believes that circumstances should not dictate how its browser performs, and Opera Turbo is a way to ensure the best browsing possible anytime, anywhere.
"We are living in a time and place where access to the Web should be a universal right to all. Technology has advanced us to the point that we can very nearly access the Internet anytime and anywhere from a growing number of devices," said Jon von Tetzchner, CEO, Opera Software. "As part of Opera's commitment to provide the best experience on any device, Opera has developed the Opera Turbo solution. The Mobile World Congress serves as a forum for us to educate others on the wonders of Web technology."
See it to believe it at Opera's Mobile World Congress exhibit (Hall 2, Stand 2B77). Mobile World Congress participants will also have the ability to experience Opera on a variety of devices: Opera Mobile on smartphones such as HTC HD, Samsung Omnia and Sony Ericsson Xperia, free downloads of Opera Mini, improved Web browsing on gaming consoles and the ARCHOS Generation 5 Media players will be just a few of the exciting features of Opera's 2009 exhibit.
Mobile World Congress will be held from 16th to 19th February in 2009 in Barcelona, Spain. Visit the Opera Booth in Hall 2, 2B77. For media inquiries, please contact [email protected]
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Source
White paper

hmmm interesting...
tbh, i only just saw the Diamond 2 this morning (been out the loop for a while).
sounds good

I'm using the official that came with 2.03 rom, but I updated Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe from /Windows directory with the 15445 version, it is compatible with flash 3.1 and auto-rotation and zooming with the wheel still work's.
how to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3259124&postcount=41
sorry for my English
for now is the best solution I found.
and I just replace these two files.
tested on Spanish Official ROM 2.03 after this Opera still in my language, and it's PERFECT (for now...)

eXPerience1983 said:
I'm using the official that came with 2.03 rom, but I updated Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe from /Windows directory with the 15445 version, it is compatible with flash 3.1 and auto-rotation and zooming with the wheel still work's.
how to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3259124&postcount=41
sorry for my English
for now is the best solution I found.
and I just replace these two files.
tested on Spanish Official ROM 2.03 after this Opera still in my language, and it's PERFECT (for now...)
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Thx for the input...!!!

eXPerience1983 said:
I'm using the official that came with 2.03 rom, but I updated Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe from /Windows directory with the 15445 version, it is compatible with flash 3.1 and auto-rotation and zooming with the wheel still work's.
how to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3259124&postcount=41
sorry for my English
for now is the best solution I found.
and I just replace these two files.
tested on Spanish Official ROM 2.03 after this Opera still in my language, and it's PERFECT (for now...)
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Thats the badger
nice one

Installing a different version of Opera

I'm curious as to how HTC implemented multi-touch in Opera. They have a few options:
1) Opera itself checks if it's running on the HD2 and enables multi-touch using HTC's proprietary driver/dll
2) HTC customised a specific version of Opera to work with multi-touch
3) The version of Opera is bog-standard and HTC is intercepting/hooking input calls to Opera
If option 1) is true, then a different version of Opera should work fine with multi-touch on the HD2. If option 2) is true, then a different version of Opera won't work with multi-touch.
If option 3) is true, not much can be said.
Anybody willing to try installing a different version of Opera on their HD2 and seeing whether multi-touch still works on that version?

^why is that such a big deal? I mean the best opera is already on HD2 and it works.

0.631 exactly
Ooops : wrong topic Sorry

[email protected] said:
^why is that such a big deal? I mean the best opera is already on HD2 and it works.
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because in a little future maybe we want to change the version of opera, upgrade it or similar.
how people can you be so short of views?

It's not a "standard" Opera in that it has a special setting to work with pinch and zoom. Whether this setting will be present in future non-HTC builds of the browser remains to be seen.
HTC couldn't hack Opera because they don't have access to their code.

in the future there are better opera's that will support multitouch probably anyway...
its not like Opera is going to regress...so you can expect future versions to be better than the current one which means more support, more options, more compatibility, ...

Full Flash support

Good day guys,
I'm in the process of getting the wonderful HTC LEO , my question is there any application or future plans for full flash support like for websites; for example to be able to browse Beatport. For instance I know that the Nokia N900 has this feature.
Thanks.

With a little searching you would have found the answer.
In short; it is kinda already possible with the skyfire browser. It is not real flash support though, but it does allow you to view websites that use flash. Do a search for skyfire to read how it works.
Full and real flash support is coming to hd2, and this will be a thousand times better than the solution with skyfire. It's confirmed by adobe that this will be released within a few months time.

There's plans for everything, but as of yet, they have not materialized. Honestly, I am not all that excited about it. Steve Jobs had it right to say that Adobe was lazy. They are. Soon enough, flash will make way for HTML 5, which does all that flash can do, only better and easier to implement. Flash is the cause of almost every browser crash, specifically on the Mac platform at least, and without flash, we get few banner adds, etc. If I want to watch a video online, there are other solutions rather than playing them inline with the browser, etc. I prefer it that way, actually. It keeps the browser more stable and faster.

Dustee said:
Good day guys,
I'm in the process of getting the wonderful HTC LEO , my question is there any application or future plans for full flash support like for websites; for example to be able to browse Beatport. For instance I know that the Nokia N900 has this feature.
Thanks.
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You can do it with skyfire browser, i'm on beatport right now - page is like on computer..still i have one bug..when i tap on a search field to write artist name i can't get keyboard to write down and when i tap on browser to search for a page keyboard is automaticly there..weird

barty22 said:
With a little searching you would have found the answer.
In short; it is kinda already possible with the skyfire browser. It is not real flash support though, but it does allow you to view websites that use flash. Do a search for skyfire to read how it works.
Full and real flash support is coming to hd2, and this will be a thousand times better than the solution with skyfire. It's confirmed by adobe that this will be released within a few months time.
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u mean that opera will have full flash support on hd2 in next couple of months?

The default Internet Explorer on leo has Flash Suport. Works pretty good.

I also hope, when there is full flash support, there is also support for adblock, noscript and flashblock. I hate webpages that have flash ads.

vermania said:
The default Internet Explorer on leo has Flash Suport. Works pretty good.
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It's slow, buggy and only some older flash content works. The website that the OP wants to see will most likely not work (though I don't know the site)

lupipe said:
u mean that opera will have full flash support on hd2 in next couple of months?
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Yes. Nothing in the future can be said with 100% certainty, but yes I'd almost bet my life on it. Don't worry, adobe already confirmed it and opera will follow with an update when flash has been released.

Adobe is rolling out Flash 10.1 for mobile (including WinMo) in the upcoming weeks/month. That's full flash for you.