Good day guys,
I'm in the process of getting the wonderful HTC LEO , my question is there any application or future plans for full flash support like for websites; for example to be able to browse Beatport. For instance I know that the Nokia N900 has this feature.
Thanks.
With a little searching you would have found the answer.
In short; it is kinda already possible with the skyfire browser. It is not real flash support though, but it does allow you to view websites that use flash. Do a search for skyfire to read how it works.
Full and real flash support is coming to hd2, and this will be a thousand times better than the solution with skyfire. It's confirmed by adobe that this will be released within a few months time.
There's plans for everything, but as of yet, they have not materialized. Honestly, I am not all that excited about it. Steve Jobs had it right to say that Adobe was lazy. They are. Soon enough, flash will make way for HTML 5, which does all that flash can do, only better and easier to implement. Flash is the cause of almost every browser crash, specifically on the Mac platform at least, and without flash, we get few banner adds, etc. If I want to watch a video online, there are other solutions rather than playing them inline with the browser, etc. I prefer it that way, actually. It keeps the browser more stable and faster.
Dustee said:
Good day guys,
I'm in the process of getting the wonderful HTC LEO , my question is there any application or future plans for full flash support like for websites; for example to be able to browse Beatport. For instance I know that the Nokia N900 has this feature.
Thanks.
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You can do it with skyfire browser, i'm on beatport right now - page is like on computer..still i have one bug..when i tap on a search field to write artist name i can't get keyboard to write down and when i tap on browser to search for a page keyboard is automaticly there..weird
barty22 said:
With a little searching you would have found the answer.
In short; it is kinda already possible with the skyfire browser. It is not real flash support though, but it does allow you to view websites that use flash. Do a search for skyfire to read how it works.
Full and real flash support is coming to hd2, and this will be a thousand times better than the solution with skyfire. It's confirmed by adobe that this will be released within a few months time.
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u mean that opera will have full flash support on hd2 in next couple of months?
The default Internet Explorer on leo has Flash Suport. Works pretty good.
I also hope, when there is full flash support, there is also support for adblock, noscript and flashblock. I hate webpages that have flash ads.
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The default Internet Explorer on leo has Flash Suport. Works pretty good.
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It's slow, buggy and only some older flash content works. The website that the OP wants to see will most likely not work (though I don't know the site)
lupipe said:
u mean that opera will have full flash support on hd2 in next couple of months?
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Yes. Nothing in the future can be said with 100% certainty, but yes I'd almost bet my life on it. Don't worry, adobe already confirmed it and opera will follow with an update when flash has been released.
Adobe is rolling out Flash 10.1 for mobile (including WinMo) in the upcoming weeks/month. That's full flash for you.
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Hi,
what you guys this is the best web browser for HTC Touch?
I think the Picsel Browser is very good.
Pls. tell us your best browser.
Thanks!
I've been using Opera.
I think opera mini right now but I think skynet or opera mobile 9 soon will be in the coming months. Both promising full browsing and skynet will be free
I think you mean skyfire browser.
Can some one tell me the difference between:
Picsel and Opera?
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I think opera mini right now but I think skynet or opera mobile 9 soon will be in the coming months. Both promising full browsing and skynet will be free
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Yeah, no Skynet browser please. We turn over control of our web browsing to them and before you know it they'll be self aware and launching our nukes against us. Judgment day. Then they'll activate Arnold to come back in time and kill you, because you are the future leader of mankind.
Ahhh, which browser
I actually like all of them IE, Opera, NetFront...
I have found that depending on the particular website, one will work better than the other. IE works just fine for a lot of websites and has the best compatibility. Opera is great for certain websites that IE just can't display properly. NetFront works best on (poorly written) websites that have too many damn frames and cutsie html features that only impress the person who made the website. The beauty is you can install and use more than one browser to make sure you get into the websites you need. (iPhone can't do that...) I, btw, need to link into my work with Citrix and the Touch is the only phone I know that can do it. I am the envy of my colleagues at work!
I will look for this Skyfire...?
DJ
Skyfire looks amazing if it ever gets released.
You can also check out the video here
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I actually like all of them IE, Opera, NetFront...
I have found that depending on the particular website, one will work better than the other. IE works just fine for a lot of websites and has the best compatibility. Opera is great for certain websites that IE just can't display properly. NetFront works best on (poorly written) websites that have too many damn frames and cutsie html features that only impress the person who made the website. The beauty is you can install and use more than one browser to make sure you get into the websites you need. (iPhone can't do that...) I, btw, need to link into my work with Citrix and the Touch is the only phone I know that can do it. I am the envy of my colleagues at work!
I will look for this Skyfire...?
DJ
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How can you place opera in your cube since its launched through java?
josuech said:
How can you place opera in your cube since its launched through java?
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Creating shortcuts to Java apps
How do I get Opera to view full pages on my HTC Touch? I want to see pages like I see them on my computer.
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How do I get Opera to view full pages on my HTC Touch? I want to see pages like I see them on my computer.
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I don't understand exactly what you mean. Opera Mini shows pages in standard view by default.
I dont see the FULL page when I type any URL. Pls. help.
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How can you place opera in your cube since its launched through java?
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I didn't say I launched it through the Cube, but as you see, there is a way to do it. Does anyone have a copy of the Skyfire Beta?
DJ
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I didn't say I launched it through the Cube, but as you see, there is a way to do it. Does anyone have a copy of the Skyfire Beta?
DJ
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I signed up for the beta but nothing yet.
Have you checked out the video preview of Opera Mobile 9.5. It looks great and the notes says it supports flash, unfortunately they didn't demo that in the video.
EliteXen said:
I signed up for the beta but nothing yet.
Have you checked out the video preview of Opera Mobile 9.5. It looks great and the notes says it supports flash, unfortunately they didn't demo that in the video.
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Yes! Awesome! It's a great new world we live in! Every week something pops up that raises the bar. The hard part is waiting! HA!
Incidentally, I just loaded No2Chem's WM6.1clean ROM and IE seems to do everything better and faster.
DJ
Sorry for my bad english im from Mexico
The guys of skyfire has released it. You dont have to register for the free beta.
Skyfire v0.85 The best internet browser
Description:
Skyfire brings the PC internet experience to your mobile. Watch videos on YouTube or Hulu, connect with your friends on Myspace or Facebook, shop on Amazon, or listen to music. If you can experience it on your computer, you now can do it with Skyfire on the go. Skyfire is fast, easy to use and available for free for many smart phone models.
What is Skyfire?
Skyfire is a free, downloadable mobile web browser that allows you to experience the internet on your phone exactly like on your PC. Now, you can use the full web from your mobile phone with unprecedented speed and simplicity – without the typical restrictions and limitations that current ‘mobile web’ efforts offer. It’s “The Web”, not some mobile web.
A brand new browsing experience.
Mobile browsing exactly like your PC.
With Skyfire on your phone you can for the first time ever shop, watch web video, listen to web music and stay connected on your social network -- just as you would on your PC. We're talking about full-featured PC versions of your favorite websites. Skyfire gives you speedy page loads, full audio, images and video. From Myspace, Facebook, YouTube to Hulu - it's the full web experienced on your phone.
The real web, served-up right.
Unlike other mobile browsers, Skyfire supports the desktop version of Adobe Flash applications so sites, including those that serve-up video and music, are rendered exactly as you would expect - just like your PC. You will instantly recognize the content, be familiar with the page layout -- which is not true for most mobile browsing experiences. We support all that's good about today's web - not just Flash, but also Silverlight, Ajax, QuickTime and more. And even better: Skyfire evolves with the newest capabilities without you having to do anything.
Go anywhere, see anything.
Not only do we deliver video and audio, we also deliver everything else you routinely do on the web. Get maps, check sport scores, view weather forecasts, read the news, check flights, and stay active on your favorite social networks. From the Top 10 of websites all the way down to the obscurest of pages - you'll do it all from your mobile phone just like you do on your PC.
Blazing fast.
Skyfire is faster than any mobile web browser you've ever used. You'll load web pages as fast as your PC and eliminate the long delays and error messages you get with other mobile browsers. Don't take our word for it, check out this bake-off by Laptop Magazine and see how we handily outclassed the iPhone 3G.
Easy to use.
It's easy to experience the PC web on your phone with Skyfire's clickable content and intuitive navigation. We know it's a small screen and that's why we made navigating intuitive with full screen, thumbnails and adaptable zooming modes. You simply and quickly get to exactly where you want to be on a page - navigating at speeds that make the experience enjoyable.
Quick content and simple search.
All the places you routinely visit are a click away. We have handy links to popular websites on the start page. Your bookmarks and your browsing history is just a click away. Better yet, you can even bookmark your specific view (zoom level, position) of content on a web page to get exactly to the right place in one click.
We made search simple. Use our nifty SuperBar to perform a search or enter a URL from a single field. We even suggest the most commonly used search keywords as you type. Plus the search results are from Google and Yahoo and are presented in easy to read tabs for each category: web, images, and videos, and maps. Simple and it's all a click away.
Plenty of handy features.
We're always adding new features as we roll out our beta releases. Recently, we made it easy to share and easy to find mobile sites.
Discover something on the web that you want to share? Now you can send it to your friends from Skyfire via a text message. We even shorten the URL to easily fit into a single SMS text message with room to spare for your own words.
Don't like the big web page on your small screen? Want to go to the mobile site instead? If we find a mobile version of the same site, Skyfire lets you know - then you decide if you want the mobile or full website. Simply look for a 'Mobile Version' link at the top left of a page. Skyfire even renders iPhone specific web sites nicely.
On the phone you own - and free!
You can load Skyfire on your existing Windows Mobile (version 5 or 6) or newer Symbian Series 60 phones in a few steps. In a matter of minutes, you can install it either over the air or via your PC. It's free - what more can we say. No need to buy an expensive new phone and get locked into a new contract just because you want a better mobile internet experience.
DOWNLOAD IT http://rapidshare.com/files/167088634/Skyfire_7927-PPC50.CAB
Come on now! This is NOT development & hacking material. Not to mention, of course it's free!
Sorry i dont know i cant post it here
But try it
thank you
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Sorry i dont know i cant post it here
But try it
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some people are never happy but thank you very much your post is welcome because it is development
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Sorry i dont know i cant post it here
But try it
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Many have been aware of it since the development started. I'm not saying you can't post it, just do these types of post in the General forum.
Also, I suggest removing your download link.
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some people are never happy but thank you very much your post is welcome because it is development
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It's not a matter of how someone feels, just a general concept of this section of the forum. As far as development goes, it won't be much of a development topic since nobody here is developing it.
you are right champ but here is so many software that should not been here and a first "free" skyfire beta is really interesting.
I installed the cab but skyfire finds no connection ? It starts searching and runnes hsdpa on my polaris but i only see "connecting..." but nothing happens. Is this still limited for US citizens ? or only for wwe ROMs ?
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you are right champ but here is so many software that should not been here and a first "free" skyfire beta is really interesting.
I installed the cab but skyfire finds no connection ? It starts searching and runnes hsdpa on my polaris but i only see "connecting..." but nothing happens. Is this still limited for US citizens ? or only for wwe ROMs ?
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Shouldn't be limited to the US, Skyfire's page gives the option for users outside the US and doesn't require the login anymore.
EDIT: Looks like they only have US, Canada, & UK listed for avail countries. Not bad though, ESPN loaded in under 5 sec, video playback is decent, but I still hate the UI.
0.8.5 does not work for me, in France... go back to v0.8.0.
Phone : Trinity
i begin to hate this skyfire idiots. why does a application ony run in three countries !
bluemetalaxe said:
i begin to hate this skyfire idiots. why does a application ony run in three countries !
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It's likely to do with regions. I tried accessing www.hulu.com from it, knowing that it won't work on a desktop browser as I'm in the UK, and guess what? Doesn't work as it knows I'm in the UK.. As all pages are pre-rendered on the Skyfire servers, that means that I'm being served by a Skyfire server in the UK. If I were being served by a US server, Hulu would have worked.
:bah
no wvga support
Skyfire works great here in Canada!
Got to get used to the browser but, overall, it's decent.
Well, it's a good FREE alternative to PIE.... no tough to beat
Im from Mexico and Skyfire works very well on wifi
I have a Blueangel
Skyfire is good. I have tried the previous version which didn't support surfing via-proxy setting. Has this version fix that?
correct me if I'm wrong..but this has been out for at least a month hasn't it? I've been using it for at least a month
last version doesn't work!
ok it installs loads then dont work just ses locating and nothing happens this is over wifi and it works as im posting this via opera any ideas?
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Many have been aware of it since the development started. I'm not saying you can't post it, just do these types of post in the General forum.
Also, I suggest removing your download link.
It's not a matter of how someone feels, just a general concept of this section of the forum. As far as development goes, it won't be much of a development topic since nobody here is developing it.
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so should we move all of the Opera Mobile threads in this forum as well, since no one in here is developing it?
pdx77 said:
so should we move all of the Opera Mobile threads in this forum as well, since no one in here is developing it?
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No, because some of the Opera builds have been redeveloped by users here, not to mention the work it takes to obtain the builds. Skyfire is a free app for anyone to download. Big difference, pay attention before you decide to argue with my point.
Thanks daniel2020,
Now I can use Skyfire in my country, as I can't download it in the official website!!!!
It is working here, but there are a few considerations: it is not real VGA, Opera is, opera is more zoom friendly.
Hi folks!
Reading some threads about IE6 coming embedded into some new ROMs, I noticed I've got my machine with both Opera and IE, but I've not been able to "check" my IE version (not 6 indeed as it's different from videos posted in YouTube).
Is there any way to determine te current version?
Is there any way to upgrade?
Flashing a new ROM just to get IE6 looks overwhelming, not to mention if you have to change your device language on the go.
Opera has not solved my browsing needs, I still have to use my Tablet PC for "serious" browsing. Maybe not that long?
Any ideas or news?
Regards.
all WinMo 6 and 6.1 come with Pocket IE4 (the etch-a-sketch of mobile browsers)
this is what Touch HD ships with
FYI - WinMo with pocket IE 6 is labeled as version 6.1.4
and it will not be better than Opera
Sir.B said:
all WinMo 6 and 6.1 come with Pocket IE4 (the etch-a-sketch of mobile browsers)
this is what Touch HD ships with
FYI - WinMo with pocket IE 6 is labeled as version 6.1.4
and it will not be better than Opera
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Thanks for info Sir.B
Anyway, it looks like IE6 Mobile supports flash and java, this actually is better that what Opera performs.
No matter how "nice" Opera is, it falls short on "basic" issues, like flash.
I don't mind the manufacturer, but my needs go beyond current browsers. In fact my Terra web-mail doesn't work.
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Hi,
If IE 6.0 really provides full Flash support it'd be a very good alternative to Opera Missing Flash is my biggest (ONLY) disappointment since acquiring my first Pocket PC...
Regards,
Rolf
Blame Adobe for not delivering full flash-plugin for Windows Mobile. Opera supports some basic flash if u install FlashLite.
New IE wont probably come officially for there days devices, as Microsoft have said that it will require some "next generation" hardware.
Hi Vinski,
Thanks for your contribution
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Opera supports some basic flash if u install FlashLite.
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This sounds interesting Do you mean to tell me that we have to install it manually on the Blackstone ? I thought the version of Opera on our devices came with FlashLite already installed ?
New IE wont probably come officially for there days devices, as Microsoft have said that it will require some "next generation" hardware.
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Then I hope they will wait until/untill (how many l's?) the end of next year, haha... Can only afford one new phone a year
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Rolf
Not yet....
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Blame Adobe for not delivering full flash-plugin for Windows Mobile. Opera supports some basic flash if u install FlashLite.
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This is too basic, a half-way only. It's extremelly unstable (at least in my experience, I was forced to uninstall Flash Lite after so many hangs-up) and also not fully supported: Flash buttons calling a new frame are displayed but they are not operational. This is just a too limited embedded Flash player, not really very functional....
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New IE wont probably come officially for there days devices, as Microsoft have said that it will require some "next generation" hardware.
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IT'S BEING DELIVERED right now on new Asian HD roms, so our current machines should be enough. Isn't?
Two weeks ago I was using the Nokia N900 for at least a month and was able to test browser over my GPRS connection by rigorously testing it on heavy flash sites
Being a GPRS connection, I expected a slow loading of the pages but the content was displayed perfectly well after a few minutes. Last week I bought myself the HD2 and since then been testing IE6 and Opera over the same GPRS connection, but sadly most of the sites complain of upgrading to the newer Flash plug-in, which is not possible at the moment.
Today I decided to install Skyfire 1.5 and to my shocking surprise every page that I had visited on the N900 loaded 4x faster and even the heavy flash sites loaded on the fly.
The core site that I concentrated was 2advanced.com
Load this on SkyFire and see at what blazing speeds the Flash loader gets filled and the beautiful flash UI is displayed.
Await to hear your comments and views.
I love it too. Very quick and I can access mesh.com which is programmed in silverlight. I just wish it had autorotate and pinch2zoom.
jonboyuk said:
I love it too. Very quick and I can access mesh.com which is programmed in silverlight. I just wish it had autorotate and pinch2zoom.
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It does have autorotate, and pinch2zoom you can enable it by running BsB Tweaks 1.5 and adding the app into the Pinch to Zoom tweak section.
Skyfire is good but it eats your battery when viewing media content!
Is it a matter of licensing or technology that Opera has problem running flash sites?
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Skyfire is good but it eats your battery when viewing media content!
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I faced a similar problem with Fennec on the N900. I guess its a general issue of draining battery while viewing Flash/Media content via a Web Browser
i dont like it..i tried for half hour a couple of weeks ago...its strange i dont remember what i didnt like but i remember that i thought "take too many initiatives"
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It does have autorotate, and pinch2zoom you can enable it by running BsB Tweaks 1.5 and adding the app into the Pinch to Zoom tweak section.
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I know! I just meant that it wasn't standard to the software. You have to take additional steps to activate those features.
Skyfire is my browser for flash content. That's all. For casual browsing, Opera is faster, and a lot more comfortable.
Skyfire may be the best mobile browser when it comes to flash, but, for everything else, Opera/Safari/Chrome are far ahead. You should include "Flash" somewhere in the title of this topic.
loving the new skyfire update, a huge leap from what it was..
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Skyfire is my browser for flash content. That's all. For casual browsing, Opera is faster, and a lot more comfortable.
Skyfire may be the best mobile browser when it comes to flash, but, for everything else, Opera/Safari/Chrome are far ahead. You should include "Flash" somewhere in the title of this topic.
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Completely agree, Opera fulfills nearly all my needs, and I occasionally use Skyfire for flash stuff (other than youTube, which I prefer the dedicated app for).
I know that not being able to view flash in opera browser has been an issue before, but I thought that with the latest version of opera you can? If this is the case why is it when I view certain websites it says I need flash to view it?
Cheers
You need to install Flash Lite and enable plugins in Opera. But I don't recommend you to do that, because the Flash Lite is full of bugs.
If you need flash just use IE instead. Still not perfect but much better.
Skyfire is a good one for embedded video, not quite so finger friendly, but well worth having installed to run along side ie and opera
I've tried both IE and syfire, and not a great fan of either to be honest. I'm guessing I was wrong then and you can't view flash on opera?
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I've tried both IE and syfire, and not a great fan of either to be honest. I'm guessing I was wrong then and you can't view flash on opera?
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No, not by default.
When HTML 5 really takes hold, Flash will dry up and die... I truly hope it will.
With some hacking and some luck you can get flash lite support in Opera Mobile 9.5 and 9.7 versions (not in Opera Mobile 10 yet!). Internet Explorer mobile supports flash lite by default (on recent roms/devices).
The thing is, is that flash lite itself is very slow, buggy, and incomplete. Barely any flash content will work with it.
Adobe should release full Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile within a few months. When that happens, we will see full and complete Flash in probably all windows mobile browsers.
Skyfire already supports all flash content, but in a different way. Nothing is rendered on your device. All content is downloaded and rendered on their servers, and then compressed forwarded to your phone. When their server is down that means you can't browse the internet on your phone, and that situation happened a few weeks ago in fact. Besides, browsing with skyfire is not nearly as good as with Opera Mobile.
Flash Lite only supports older versions of Flash which are very basic. Streaming and most Flash based games use the newer Flash versions so that's why you always see the non-compatibility.
For older stuff, try the methods listed above. For newer stuff... forget about it.
donalgodon said:
When HTML 5 really takes hold, Flash will dry up and die... I truly hope it will.
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steve jobs thinks the same, lets see what happens
donalgodon said:
When HTML 5 really takes hold, Flash will dry up and die... I truly hope it will.
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Lol - sorry mate. Ain't gonna happen.