I'm confused about opera and flash, can anyone enlighten me? - HD2 General

I know that not being able to view flash in opera browser has been an issue before, but I thought that with the latest version of opera you can? If this is the case why is it when I view certain websites it says I need flash to view it?
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You need to install Flash Lite and enable plugins in Opera. But I don't recommend you to do that, because the Flash Lite is full of bugs.
If you need flash just use IE instead. Still not perfect but much better.

Skyfire is a good one for embedded video, not quite so finger friendly, but well worth having installed to run along side ie and opera

I've tried both IE and syfire, and not a great fan of either to be honest. I'm guessing I was wrong then and you can't view flash on opera?

snerkler said:
I've tried both IE and syfire, and not a great fan of either to be honest. I'm guessing I was wrong then and you can't view flash on opera?
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No, not by default.

When HTML 5 really takes hold, Flash will dry up and die... I truly hope it will.

With some hacking and some luck you can get flash lite support in Opera Mobile 9.5 and 9.7 versions (not in Opera Mobile 10 yet!). Internet Explorer mobile supports flash lite by default (on recent roms/devices).
The thing is, is that flash lite itself is very slow, buggy, and incomplete. Barely any flash content will work with it.
Adobe should release full Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile within a few months. When that happens, we will see full and complete Flash in probably all windows mobile browsers.
Skyfire already supports all flash content, but in a different way. Nothing is rendered on your device. All content is downloaded and rendered on their servers, and then compressed forwarded to your phone. When their server is down that means you can't browse the internet on your phone, and that situation happened a few weeks ago in fact. Besides, browsing with skyfire is not nearly as good as with Opera Mobile.

Flash Lite only supports older versions of Flash which are very basic. Streaming and most Flash based games use the newer Flash versions so that's why you always see the non-compatibility.
For older stuff, try the methods listed above. For newer stuff... forget about it.

donalgodon said:
When HTML 5 really takes hold, Flash will dry up and die... I truly hope it will.
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steve jobs thinks the same, lets see what happens

donalgodon said:
When HTML 5 really takes hold, Flash will dry up and die... I truly hope it will.
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Lol - sorry mate. Ain't gonna happen.

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Flash for experia?

I love this phone, but opera and ie hvae no flash. Skyfire is good, but doesn't support x1 due to resolution. Is there anything I can do?
Thanks!
try looking for flashlite.3.1 cab file
it works with opera i think but im getting issues with th cache on some java things, says try emptying the cache but i cannot figure out how to do that yet if any one has any help
Thanks I tried that, but flash videos in opera just have vertical lines down them with various colors. Not sure that cab worked.
flash on xperia seems to be a tough nut to crack
Jep, got that same **** here.
Colored vertical lines, that's also what I get with the YouTube player, this is likely because of errors in the rendering. I suspect the Flash Lite we're talking about isn't getting as good alng with Opera Mobile as it should be. Most flash object don't render at all. With some fidling with the zoom in and out button and right mouse (hold slylus down) on a flash object I can sometimes get Opera Mobile to render a block/part of the object or just the controls.
I've been trying to get Flash going for a while. Most solution found on the inets rely on a specific Opera Mini version/build. Pretty much all of those builds however cause conflict with the by default installed Opera Mobile, and you end up with no Opera at all.
I'll be looking (mostly here on XDA, just started reading here, this forum is huge) for a solution that works for the xperia, but it looks like there will have to be a solution custom made for the xperia. That is, for the official ROM. Anyone familiar with a ROM that runs stable on the xperia that has Opera Mobile + Flash Lite baked/cooked in?
Felix (writing from my X1
FelixAkk said:
I've been trying to get Flash going for a while. Most solution found on the inets rely on a specific Opera Mini version/build. Pretty much all of those builds however cause conflict with the by default installed Opera Mobile, and you end up with no Opera at all.
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My rom included flashlite 3.1 and runs happy w/ the stock Opera (seperate d/l from my thread).
On Opera 9.5, the vertical line on some but not all youtube movies because some are in flash9 format which is not supported by FL3.1. Another solution is install Flashplayer 7 for WM, it works for all youtube movies I tried so far but it's a resources hog causing the playback very choppy.
Thanks, very helpful post. Awesome work you've done on creating a custom flash. Makes me wonder about how much work must have went into that and even more how you did it.
I suppose I better first get informed really well about flashing the ROM before go ahead. From what I've read it's quite risky and you really need to know exactly what you're doing. I've already read some accounts of people who have bricked their devices in a failed attempt to flash the ROM.
How did you get so experienced with working with ROM's? Just trial and error?
Also, perhaps you can explain what the abbreviations CU and CID(unlocked) stand for?

SkyFire 1.5 beats IE6, Opera and Mozilla Fennec

Two weeks ago I was using the Nokia N900 for at least a month and was able to test browser over my GPRS connection by rigorously testing it on heavy flash sites
Being a GPRS connection, I expected a slow loading of the pages but the content was displayed perfectly well after a few minutes. Last week I bought myself the HD2 and since then been testing IE6 and Opera over the same GPRS connection, but sadly most of the sites complain of upgrading to the newer Flash plug-in, which is not possible at the moment.
Today I decided to install Skyfire 1.5 and to my shocking surprise every page that I had visited on the N900 loaded 4x faster and even the heavy flash sites loaded on the fly.
The core site that I concentrated was 2advanced.com
Load this on SkyFire and see at what blazing speeds the Flash loader gets filled and the beautiful flash UI is displayed.
Await to hear your comments and views.
I love it too. Very quick and I can access mesh.com which is programmed in silverlight. I just wish it had autorotate and pinch2zoom.
jonboyuk said:
I love it too. Very quick and I can access mesh.com which is programmed in silverlight. I just wish it had autorotate and pinch2zoom.
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It does have autorotate, and pinch2zoom you can enable it by running BsB Tweaks 1.5 and adding the app into the Pinch to Zoom tweak section.
Skyfire is good but it eats your battery when viewing media content!
Is it a matter of licensing or technology that Opera has problem running flash sites?
padlad said:
Skyfire is good but it eats your battery when viewing media content!
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I faced a similar problem with Fennec on the N900. I guess its a general issue of draining battery while viewing Flash/Media content via a Web Browser
i dont like it..i tried for half hour a couple of weeks ago...its strange i dont remember what i didnt like but i remember that i thought "take too many initiatives"
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It does have autorotate, and pinch2zoom you can enable it by running BsB Tweaks 1.5 and adding the app into the Pinch to Zoom tweak section.
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I know! I just meant that it wasn't standard to the software. You have to take additional steps to activate those features.
Skyfire is my browser for flash content. That's all. For casual browsing, Opera is faster, and a lot more comfortable.
Skyfire may be the best mobile browser when it comes to flash, but, for everything else, Opera/Safari/Chrome are far ahead. You should include "Flash" somewhere in the title of this topic.
loving the new skyfire update, a huge leap from what it was..
Zunzun said:
Skyfire is my browser for flash content. That's all. For casual browsing, Opera is faster, and a lot more comfortable.
Skyfire may be the best mobile browser when it comes to flash, but, for everything else, Opera/Safari/Chrome are far ahead. You should include "Flash" somewhere in the title of this topic.
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Completely agree, Opera fulfills nearly all my needs, and I occasionally use Skyfire for flash stuff (other than youTube, which I prefer the dedicated app for).

Full Flash support

Good day guys,
I'm in the process of getting the wonderful HTC LEO , my question is there any application or future plans for full flash support like for websites; for example to be able to browse Beatport. For instance I know that the Nokia N900 has this feature.
Thanks.
With a little searching you would have found the answer.
In short; it is kinda already possible with the skyfire browser. It is not real flash support though, but it does allow you to view websites that use flash. Do a search for skyfire to read how it works.
Full and real flash support is coming to hd2, and this will be a thousand times better than the solution with skyfire. It's confirmed by adobe that this will be released within a few months time.
There's plans for everything, but as of yet, they have not materialized. Honestly, I am not all that excited about it. Steve Jobs had it right to say that Adobe was lazy. They are. Soon enough, flash will make way for HTML 5, which does all that flash can do, only better and easier to implement. Flash is the cause of almost every browser crash, specifically on the Mac platform at least, and without flash, we get few banner adds, etc. If I want to watch a video online, there are other solutions rather than playing them inline with the browser, etc. I prefer it that way, actually. It keeps the browser more stable and faster.
Dustee said:
Good day guys,
I'm in the process of getting the wonderful HTC LEO , my question is there any application or future plans for full flash support like for websites; for example to be able to browse Beatport. For instance I know that the Nokia N900 has this feature.
Thanks.
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You can do it with skyfire browser, i'm on beatport right now - page is like on computer..still i have one bug..when i tap on a search field to write artist name i can't get keyboard to write down and when i tap on browser to search for a page keyboard is automaticly there..weird
barty22 said:
With a little searching you would have found the answer.
In short; it is kinda already possible with the skyfire browser. It is not real flash support though, but it does allow you to view websites that use flash. Do a search for skyfire to read how it works.
Full and real flash support is coming to hd2, and this will be a thousand times better than the solution with skyfire. It's confirmed by adobe that this will be released within a few months time.
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u mean that opera will have full flash support on hd2 in next couple of months?
The default Internet Explorer on leo has Flash Suport. Works pretty good.
I also hope, when there is full flash support, there is also support for adblock, noscript and flashblock. I hate webpages that have flash ads.
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The default Internet Explorer on leo has Flash Suport. Works pretty good.
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It's slow, buggy and only some older flash content works. The website that the OP wants to see will most likely not work (though I don't know the site)
lupipe said:
u mean that opera will have full flash support on hd2 in next couple of months?
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Yes. Nothing in the future can be said with 100% certainty, but yes I'd almost bet my life on it. Don't worry, adobe already confirmed it and opera will follow with an update when flash has been released.
Adobe is rolling out Flash 10.1 for mobile (including WinMo) in the upcoming weeks/month. That's full flash for you.

why dont you chefs use opera mini its faster

why dont you chefs use opera mini ...its 10 times faster than opera 10...
I'm guessing the main reason is that the rendering isn't as good and it doesn't support plugins, since the pages are compressed and rendered through Opera's servers. In addition, the native version of Opera Mini has only been out for around a week. Besides, you can always install it yourself, so it's not even that big a deal.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm guessing the main reason is that the rendering isn't as good and it doesn't support plugins, since the pages are compressed and rendered through Opera's servers. In addition, the native version of Opera Mini has only been out for around a week. Besides, you can always install it yourself, so it's not even that big a deal.
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Agree with that, opera mini might be faster but it doesn't provide a complete web experience. Mini doesn't support either flash or interactive sites, like JavaScript based ones. I personally would prefer Opera Mobile 10 beta v2 and, for flash, v3. Even if it consumes memory space like nothing else
when i use opera mini 5 .....and i go to watch a video it works
1milenia said:
when i use opera mini 5 .....and i go to watch a video it works
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That may not be flash, it could be the Streaming Media Program playing the video for you.
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
I'm guessing the main reason is that the rendering isn't as good and it doesn't support plugins, since the pages are compressed and rendered through Opera's servers. In addition, the native version of Opera Mini has only been out for around a week. Besides, you can always install it yourself, so it's not even that big a deal.
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And also, can't be set as default yet.
Opera 10 beta 3 launched Veeeryy slow. It was the only reason for me , for deleting it for ever. Im going to try out the mini version.. thanks for the hint
I have installed opera mini 5 now, but on some pages, like
www.openingstijden.nu or m.opentot.nl it doesnt give any search Results.. can somebody test and confirm this please.

Opera and you tube

I can´t see youtube in opera . I installed flash lite 3.1
and nothing i applied the fixOperaFlash v1.5.4.0 with the latest fixOperaFlash.ini
replaced on \windows and nothing any suggestion?
Thank you
field3d said:
I can´t see youtube in opera . I installed flash lite 3.1
and nothing i applied the fixOperaFlash v1.5.4.0 with the latest fixOperaFlash.ini
replaced on \windows and nothing any suggestion?
Thank you
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I could never get Flash working in Opera, until I got Opera 10. Now it works on most sites, and works great on YouTube, especially when switching to fullscreen! I still prefer to use the YouTube app though.
Ok
Ok now for install opera 10 i need to uninstall fix opera and flash lite?
And where can i see more how to install about opera 10 installation. Thank you
field3d said:
Ok now for install opera 10 i need to uninstall fix opera and flash lite?
And where can i see more how to install about opera 10 installation. Thank you
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I wouldn't worry about uninstalling the flash stuff you've already installed. If you do want to do it then they should be in your "remove programs" list (Settings, Menu, All Settings, System, Remove Programs).
You can find out all you need about Opera 10 from http://m.opera.com
The only thing you need to remember is that you must turn on plugins when you've installed it, otherwise Flash won't work.
Can someone tell me
1. What are the major benefits between the version of Opera Mobile currently on the HD2 and this latest Opera Mobile version
2. Sam as above but major differences between Opera Mobile and Opera Mini
I am considering Opera mini as a fellow HD2 user states it is so much better than Opera Mobile
Many Thanks
thank you
thank you for all i´ll check that
Opera Mobile 10 is pretty much identical to opera mini now. But Mini runs inside java virtual machine, so no fullscreen, doesn't really like being put in the background, need to confirm connection each time you launch it,... so Mobile 10 is preferable. If you turn on Turbo mode it uses the server based rendering like mini.
Just try it and you'll see... personally I don't like the lack of pinch to zoom and somewhat broken zoom in OM10, so I stay with the default OM9.7.
I am using Opera 10 and i have turned on the plugins. I have also instaled flash lite 3.1 on my Asus P565. I can see some of the videos on youtube (not m.youtube) but not all of them.
Can you see all of the videos ?
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Opera Mobile 10 is pretty much identical to opera mini now. But Mini runs inside java virtual machine, so no fullscreen, doesn't really like being put in the background, need to confirm connection each time you launch it,... so Mobile 10 is preferable. If you turn on Turbo mode it uses the server based rendering like mini.
Just try it and you'll see... personally I don't like the lack of pinch to zoom and somewhat broken zoom in OM10, so I stay with the default OM9.7.
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Thanks, so is often the case new technology is often promoted with a one sided view i.e. all the benefits but not the delta changes (negatives). So I won't be going Opera Mini.
Turbo mode would be nice but losing a good zoom in feature means I'll also stick to what I have. Is this lower zoom capability by design or a bug (i.e. might be fixed one day)?
kilrah said:
Opera Mobile 10 is pretty much identical to opera mini now. But Mini runs inside java virtual machine, so no fullscreen, doesn't really like being put in the background, need to confirm connection each time you launch it,... so Mobile 10 is preferable. If you turn on Turbo mode it uses the server based rendering like mini.
Just try it and you'll see... personally I don't like the lack of pinch to zoom and somewhat broken zoom in OM10, so I stay with the default OM9.7.
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Opera Mini isn't Java anymore
http://m.opera.com/?act=lp&tag=mini5wm&cert=&region=&rnd=2117407909

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