Embedded Flash in PIE or Opera - Touch Cruise ROM Development

There are a lot of threads about this subject but somehow non of them where able to help me to get embedded Flash in websites.
I've installed the Flash 7 ActiveX plugin, installed Flash Lite. Together and separately. Reboots, instructions from this forum and instructions from Adobe.. nothing seems to help. I use the latest PIE and Opera Mobile 8.65.
When I visit www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/ in PIE I get a message that Flash version 7,0,70,0 is installed but without the embedded Flash element you would expect that says "Adobe Flash Player is installed.", like on a PC. When I visit the same page in Opera I don't get any messages about successful installations.
Is there something I'm doing wrong? If you need more details about somethings; let me know...

First post here... please be kind...
Actually, I've been looking for such a solution myself. Very easy to test my own website (www.LauraBraniganOnline.com) since I have Flash snippets on the top of each page that I purposely coded to read down to Flash 5...
Had an Axim x51v, Flash seemed to work OK... now got rid of that when I got my new AT&T/Cingular Tilt (HTC Kaiser), their latest ROM but hard-resetted and soft-resetted so I don't get AT&T's extra crap... btw doing this works fine for me.
But have Flash Lite 2.1 developer installed, had the Flash 6 installed, now have Flash 7 ActiveX installed, nothing works on any other browser but PIE (believe it or not, have Opera Mobile 8.65, MiniMo, and NetFront all installed).
Being from Philly originally, love to listen to KYW-AM news radio over the Internet, works fine on my laptop, dies on my new Kaiser... assuming that CBS coded their latest player at a Flash level higher than 7.
ANYWAY... what with all that background (are you all still awake... ), I'm wondering if there are any other back-end, side-end or otherwise workarounds to get OTHER browsers than PIE to read at least Flash applets coded for 7 or below... at least until the behemoth that is Adobe decides to actually give the incredibly exploding numbers of Mobile platform users a Flash player that actually works with WM6 and its growing number of non IE browsers. Heck, you'd think if they were so eager to push the Flash technology on everyone on the planet after buying out the much-loved Macromedia (I still use my good-ol' copy of Macromedia Dreamweaver!), that they'd have a mobile solution that actually works for those of us who still think that Microsoft is doing their own mobile users an injustice with a PIE that hasn't changed nearly at all from the old Pocket PC 2002 days...
Sorry for the rant -- spent about 5 days searching for a solution... and either I'm missing it, or it's really hidden... or it just isn't there yet... maybe we haven't bribed Adobe & Microsoft with enough $$$ to actually have them work on this...
BereanPK

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Flash on your TYTN

Is there a software to view Flash Media on the HTC TYTN ?
you can download the flash plugin from adobe for IE ..etc
if you want a standalone player Bryht Flash Player v2.0 is pretty good google it
you mean macromedia player? you can download it here or flash memory? somethink like that? if you interrested on what is inside hermes, look here.
Basically what it is is that i've just sky+ and I would like to be able to set it to record from my VARIO 2 by going on to the sky.com website/ tv guide as it you where doing it from a desktop, but when I try it loads the page ok but says "Either you do not have flash orit is disabled in your browser. Please enable or download it here.
Now i've download about 3 different flash software I found and none of them work.
I know I can set the sky+ to record by sending a text from my mobile but since these phone are not compatible for sky anytime I just wanted what I see as the next best thing which is go online and view the programmes listed.
I don't know what else to try !
Flash player has many different versions, and the versions for mobile are not as advanced as those for web browsers on personal computers. Chances are, the site you are trying to visit is authored for versions higher than what the tytn can support
Ok m8, well i'll keep on searching just in case get lucky !

Flash for experia?

I love this phone, but opera and ie hvae no flash. Skyfire is good, but doesn't support x1 due to resolution. Is there anything I can do?
Thanks!
try looking for flashlite.3.1 cab file
it works with opera i think but im getting issues with th cache on some java things, says try emptying the cache but i cannot figure out how to do that yet if any one has any help
Thanks I tried that, but flash videos in opera just have vertical lines down them with various colors. Not sure that cab worked.
flash on xperia seems to be a tough nut to crack
Jep, got that same **** here.
Colored vertical lines, that's also what I get with the YouTube player, this is likely because of errors in the rendering. I suspect the Flash Lite we're talking about isn't getting as good alng with Opera Mobile as it should be. Most flash object don't render at all. With some fidling with the zoom in and out button and right mouse (hold slylus down) on a flash object I can sometimes get Opera Mobile to render a block/part of the object or just the controls.
I've been trying to get Flash going for a while. Most solution found on the inets rely on a specific Opera Mini version/build. Pretty much all of those builds however cause conflict with the by default installed Opera Mobile, and you end up with no Opera at all.
I'll be looking (mostly here on XDA, just started reading here, this forum is huge) for a solution that works for the xperia, but it looks like there will have to be a solution custom made for the xperia. That is, for the official ROM. Anyone familiar with a ROM that runs stable on the xperia that has Opera Mobile + Flash Lite baked/cooked in?
Felix (writing from my X1
FelixAkk said:
I've been trying to get Flash going for a while. Most solution found on the inets rely on a specific Opera Mini version/build. Pretty much all of those builds however cause conflict with the by default installed Opera Mobile, and you end up with no Opera at all.
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My rom included flashlite 3.1 and runs happy w/ the stock Opera (seperate d/l from my thread).
On Opera 9.5, the vertical line on some but not all youtube movies because some are in flash9 format which is not supported by FL3.1. Another solution is install Flashplayer 7 for WM, it works for all youtube movies I tried so far but it's a resources hog causing the playback very choppy.
Thanks, very helpful post. Awesome work you've done on creating a custom flash. Makes me wonder about how much work must have went into that and even more how you did it.
I suppose I better first get informed really well about flashing the ROM before go ahead. From what I've read it's quite risky and you really need to know exactly what you're doing. I've already read some accounts of people who have bricked their devices in a failed attempt to flash the ROM.
How did you get so experienced with working with ROM's? Just trial and error?
Also, perhaps you can explain what the abbreviations CU and CID(unlocked) stand for?

[Q] Witch IE version do we have?

Hi folks!
Reading some threads about IE6 coming embedded into some new ROMs, I noticed I've got my machine with both Opera and IE, but I've not been able to "check" my IE version (not 6 indeed as it's different from videos posted in YouTube).
Is there any way to determine te current version?
Is there any way to upgrade?
Flashing a new ROM just to get IE6 looks overwhelming, not to mention if you have to change your device language on the go.
Opera has not solved my browsing needs, I still have to use my Tablet PC for "serious" browsing. Maybe not that long?
Any ideas or news?
Regards.
all WinMo 6 and 6.1 come with Pocket IE4 (the etch-a-sketch of mobile browsers)
this is what Touch HD ships with
FYI - WinMo with pocket IE 6 is labeled as version 6.1.4
and it will not be better than Opera
Sir.B said:
all WinMo 6 and 6.1 come with Pocket IE4 (the etch-a-sketch of mobile browsers)
this is what Touch HD ships with
FYI - WinMo with pocket IE 6 is labeled as version 6.1.4
and it will not be better than Opera
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Thanks for info Sir.B
Anyway, it looks like IE6 Mobile supports flash and java, this actually is better that what Opera performs.
No matter how "nice" Opera is, it falls short on "basic" issues, like flash.
I don't mind the manufacturer, but my needs go beyond current browsers. In fact my Terra web-mail doesn't work.
Regards.
Hi,
If IE 6.0 really provides full Flash support it'd be a very good alternative to Opera Missing Flash is my biggest (ONLY) disappointment since acquiring my first Pocket PC...
Regards,
Rolf
Blame Adobe for not delivering full flash-plugin for Windows Mobile. Opera supports some basic flash if u install FlashLite.
New IE wont probably come officially for there days devices, as Microsoft have said that it will require some "next generation" hardware.
Hi Vinski,
Thanks for your contribution
Vinski- said:
Opera supports some basic flash if u install FlashLite.
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This sounds interesting Do you mean to tell me that we have to install it manually on the Blackstone ? I thought the version of Opera on our devices came with FlashLite already installed ?
New IE wont probably come officially for there days devices, as Microsoft have said that it will require some "next generation" hardware.
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Then I hope they will wait until/untill (how many l's?) the end of next year, haha... Can only afford one new phone a year
Regards,
Rolf
Not yet....
Vinski- said:
Blame Adobe for not delivering full flash-plugin for Windows Mobile. Opera supports some basic flash if u install FlashLite.
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This is too basic, a half-way only. It's extremelly unstable (at least in my experience, I was forced to uninstall Flash Lite after so many hangs-up) and also not fully supported: Flash buttons calling a new frame are displayed but they are not operational. This is just a too limited embedded Flash player, not really very functional....
Vinski- said:
New IE wont probably come officially for there days devices, as Microsoft have said that it will require some "next generation" hardware.
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IT'S BEING DELIVERED right now on new Asian HD roms, so our current machines should be enough. Isn't?

BOLT the new browser

hie guys did a search and it appeares this new browser http://boltbrowser.com/
hasnt been mentioned yet on our blackstone forum has anyone tried it yet and what are your thoughts to those who have tried it thanks
I really doubt that this browser will be capable of things they advertise. I suspect fake/malware...
EDIT:
I was wrong, its real
anyone tested this?
I dimly remember Skyfire ... it seems to be similar to this one. I think it first appeared spring 2008.
But I never heard about it again and I just don't trust it ^^
http://www.skyfire.com/
I use skyfire. To be able to use it on he beloved HD, you somehow need to decrease resolution. Skyfire is great for flash.
Has anyone tryied "Bolt" ?
Finally, Bolt - the public version of the Thunderhawk browser that is around for a while. Tough sell, a browser that relies on proxy server-side image rendering, similar to Skyfire and Opera Mobile. So how will they make money? Data-mining usage patterns, subscriptions or ads - no one got to work it until now. Good luck, the environment is hostile to your concept...
Guys--Bitstream is a real (and real old) company in Cambrdige, MA. Started out as a typeface company. They are the Thunderhawk people, for whatever that's worth. It looks to me like Bolt is an alpha release masquerading as a beta or version 1 or something, but I'm going to try it because it's from Bitstream.
Sandra
i tried to install this with all 4 links and the untrusted one is al that will work. Unfortunately it tries to launch and the app freezes. Not working. Someone please try it and tell me if it is just me.
mallman said:
i tried to install this with all 4 links and the untrusted one is al that will work. Unfortunately it tries to launch and the app freezes. Not working. Someone please try it and tell me if it is just me.
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aq soft reset got it working but can confirm flash doesnt work
i downloaded but i got a oddly named file with no extension... sszu6w... not sure if i'm to rename to sszu6w.cab or what... guidance anyone?
Windows Mobile phones: Skyfire runs on Microsoft Windows 5, 6, and 6.1. We support VGA and QVGA screen resolutions. Skyfire runs on many popular Windows Mobile phones including the HTC Tilt, HTC Touch Diamond, HTC Fuze, Motorola Q and Q9, Palm Pro, Palm 800W and Samsung Blackjack II. To check if your phone is compatible with our OS and resolution requirements, please refer to the Microsoft website.
Skyfire will not run on Windows Mobile PDAs. Skyfire runs on phones only.
Skyfire will not run on WVGA Windows Mobile phones.
wapreview.com have got 500 referral codes to get a download link for Bolt.
Just got mine.
Downloaded and tried it. Very similar to Opera Mini. Visited youtube.com and clicking on a video just opened a .3gp stream which opened up in Coreplayer. Not really any use on the Touch HD as there was really no way I could see to navigate around due to the lack of hardware buttons.
I too have the same files on "my documents" folder and cannot open, based on BOLT's install instructions it supposed to download the browser and rights stuff but nothing actually downloads to the folder....I too need help

I'm confused about opera and flash, can anyone enlighten me?

I know that not being able to view flash in opera browser has been an issue before, but I thought that with the latest version of opera you can? If this is the case why is it when I view certain websites it says I need flash to view it?
Cheers
You need to install Flash Lite and enable plugins in Opera. But I don't recommend you to do that, because the Flash Lite is full of bugs.
If you need flash just use IE instead. Still not perfect but much better.
Skyfire is a good one for embedded video, not quite so finger friendly, but well worth having installed to run along side ie and opera
I've tried both IE and syfire, and not a great fan of either to be honest. I'm guessing I was wrong then and you can't view flash on opera?
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I've tried both IE and syfire, and not a great fan of either to be honest. I'm guessing I was wrong then and you can't view flash on opera?
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No, not by default.
When HTML 5 really takes hold, Flash will dry up and die... I truly hope it will.
With some hacking and some luck you can get flash lite support in Opera Mobile 9.5 and 9.7 versions (not in Opera Mobile 10 yet!). Internet Explorer mobile supports flash lite by default (on recent roms/devices).
The thing is, is that flash lite itself is very slow, buggy, and incomplete. Barely any flash content will work with it.
Adobe should release full Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile within a few months. When that happens, we will see full and complete Flash in probably all windows mobile browsers.
Skyfire already supports all flash content, but in a different way. Nothing is rendered on your device. All content is downloaded and rendered on their servers, and then compressed forwarded to your phone. When their server is down that means you can't browse the internet on your phone, and that situation happened a few weeks ago in fact. Besides, browsing with skyfire is not nearly as good as with Opera Mobile.
Flash Lite only supports older versions of Flash which are very basic. Streaming and most Flash based games use the newer Flash versions so that's why you always see the non-compatibility.
For older stuff, try the methods listed above. For newer stuff... forget about it.
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When HTML 5 really takes hold, Flash will dry up and die... I truly hope it will.
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steve jobs thinks the same, lets see what happens
donalgodon said:
When HTML 5 really takes hold, Flash will dry up and die... I truly hope it will.
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Lol - sorry mate. Ain't gonna happen.

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