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Hello everyone.
This is my first post. Actually, I added this as a reply on a thread but it's so long and covers so many areas I thought I'd create a new thread from it, if that is ok.
Here are some answers to people's questions on various threads about the 614c ROM images, and my comments particularly on the various ROMs out there.
Here's a link to the latest WM6.1 ROM from a Russian gentleman yevg001 who creates them.
Here's a link to the latest hp official WM6.0 ROM.
1) Yes, you can flash to yevg001 israpda WM6.1 ROMs and then back to the hp WM6.0 ROM from the hp website as often as you like. Flashing from an SD card (not SDHC) has worked reliably several times on my three 614c phones, and flashing using the hp software also works fine (it's much slower because it loads the ROM down a USB cable).
2) The big difference between the yevg001 ROM and the hp ROM is that the hp ROM contains an update to the device firmware, to v0.88 (the latest version). This is of interest if you still have firmware v0.77 (the previous and originally released version). The yevg001 ROMs do not affect your firmware version.
3) If you apply the hp ROM, you cannot get back to v0.77 firmware - I don't think the hp installer will downgrade you, even if you have an old hp ROM image.
4) Why might you want to downgrade to v0.77 device firmware? Because v0.88, while better in numerous ways, has one critical defect: it does not properly support call waiting. When a second call is received (and you hear the beeps in your ear), the active call is affected in that the person you are talking to cannot hear you - and usually hangs up because he/she things you have lost the line. It's very annoying. Other than this, the firmware is better and more stable, due to various minor bug fixes. Fewer missed calls, fewer crashes.
5) Ok, putting aside device firmware and thinking of software... the latest yevg001 ROM is based on hp software image 1.01.04, the latest image at time of writing. yevg001 has also added a few little software applets into the image, but you don't need to use any of these. Obviously, you cannot uninstall them as they are in the ROM, but they also therefore don't take up any usable space.
6) The touchFLO interface is optional. You can easily deactivate it. It looks quite pretty but I have to say I don't like it, so I've deactivated it just by unchecking it in Today settings.
7) The yevg001 WM 6.1 build (I'm using his v1.6) is very good. I have only noticed one major problem with it. The phone is faster than ever before (and I've tried a lot of ROMs). It is quite stable - a couple of crashes but not noticeably more than the hp ROM. The WM6.1 ROM is entirely in English (with the exception that Yevgeny has added in Russian T9 support - not much use without Russian character set). English T9 works as normal.
8) I have also noticed improved battery life. With the latest hp 1.01.04 WM6.0 ROM, I usually get through four fully charged batteries in 24 hours. With the yevg001 v1.6 WM 6.1 ROM, I only get through three. Yes, I'm quite a heavy user but this is a good improvement.
9) The major problem I mentioned in point 7, which won't affect everyone, is that yevg001's ROM does not allow concurrent voice and data usage on a 3G or HSDPA network. How bad is that? Not all 3G phones support this and it is one of the best features of the 614c... My guess is that yevg001 does not even realise this because there is no (or nearly no) 3G in Russia - at least there wasn't last time I was in Moscow in April/May. Basically, if you have any data connection active at the time you place or receive a call, the phone just abruptly drops the data connection. It re-establishes it fine after your call, but no concurrent usage. **If any Russian forum user is reading this, please could you post to yevg001 and ask him if he can address this?**
10) Other experiences based on my regular usage:
a) Bluetooth works fine, neither better nor worse than the standard HP build. I use several BT headsets for calls and also listen to music using A2DP. The A2DP connection seems more stable under WM6.1. In general on the 614c the BT sound level is too low, it does seems a bit lower still with the yevg001 ROM but it was a problem already.
b) Wi-fi works fine, no problems at all with b or g networks.
c) The PIE browser seems to have been slightly improved under WM6.1.
d) The threaded SMS is fantastic! And better than the iphone too because it allows you to delete and to forward individual messages within the thread. The email client seems to be unchanged.
e) I use tomtom navigator 6.3 (western europe) a lot. It works well.
f) Getting a GPS fix can take more than five minutes from cold. If you've used it before on the same day, it's usually less than a minute. I have always found that the 614c is slower to get a fix than the old 6915 which I believe many 614c users upgraded from.
g) Google Maps also works really well, with GPS, and using HSDPA the 614c is fast enough to keep up with your position on a zoomed-in satellite photo while travelling in a car at 30mph (no I wasn't driving!).
h) The media player is ok, I do wish it would read the album artwork out of the mp3 metadata, but that's a slightly off topic observation.
i) The camera is shockingly slow. I use it rarely. The autofocus works quite well.
j) I've had no problems with lots of 8GB SDHC cards.
k) Battery life battery life battery life. The Achilles heel of the 614c. See point 8 above.
m) Activesync seems to work more quickly and more reliably under the WM6.1 ROM than previously.
n) Voice Commander is rubbish. Why do they bother? It takes ages to start up, only works from American accents, is generally slow and intrusive (over other open windows) and is unreliable. MS Voice Command was much better.
Hope all this is interesting! Let me know what you think and if you've got any questions I'll do my best to answer them.
Cheers,
hipppo
p.s. Update as of 22 December:
In case you are looking to download the very latest ROM from the Russian expert yevg001, here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174859341/614c_WM6.1_20270_v1.4_rev1.1.rar.html
The password is "israpda.com" (without the quotes).
Yevgeny only created this ROM in the last couple of days and I believe it is based on the latest hp build - he says it is his newest and most stable WM6.1 ROM yet.
I haven't tried it yet.
Merry Christmas
hipppo
Cool, I use also the yevg001's ROM , It work very well. Does someone try his extended battery ? His look unchange? or it look like the Axim X30 with his extended battery?
My experience.
I do agree with the comments. I might add another issue - some of the programs based on netCF don't work - they report errors. I installed netCF3.5 but the problem still persists.
Hi,
I just wanted to thank you for this very detailed post.
It answered a lot of my questions!
Have HP categorically said they won't be releasing an official 6.1 ROM?
Thanks,
Adam
In my Ipaq 614C the word-completion features does not with on-screen keyboard. It's normally cauby by XT9? XT9 work well with the physical keyboard.
vgbvn said:
Cool, I use also the yevg001's ROM , It work very well. Does someone try his extended battery ? His look unchange? or it look like the Axim X30 with his extended battery?
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i ve bought the extended battery from HP and i have to say that it reallly enhance the use of the 614c ! i haven't really measured but i would say it last 2-3 times later than with the actual battery, using this 6.1 rom. the only drawback is that the phone is now bigger...
In my opinion, it's better to buy another standart battery and charger for it. I used to own a samsung i600 with two batteries - normal and extended and i had a separate charger for the battery. The only problem was, that i had to change the battery cover everytime i change the battery, which is not ery convenient. I think they sell a charger for about 5-6$ so you just charge the other battery and put it in your pocket. If you want to, you can buy two batteries. The ipaq is bulky enough with the normal battery.
HP said that "there aren't any devices made by HP with WM6.1 at the moment so they will have to make tests if the ipaq 610 is compatable with wm 6.1 and then think of releasing update". IMHO this means something like "We are not going to release wm 6.1 update if you want an official wm 6.1 phone go buy something else" . Of course it's compatable with wm 6.1 and it's working much better with it, but they have to pay $$$ to Microsoft so they can use wm 6.1 and they probably won't do that. The truth is, that the ipaq is cheaper then most of the other devices with similar hardware. I don't think that of they release an udate it will be better than the russian rom. The battery drains because you have a very, very fast CPU. I tested it with XcpuScalar and it plays 320x240 MP4 video with decent quality when clocked at 104MHZ. Now you can imagine the excessive power of the CPU, which is utilized at maximum only when playing QUAKE 2 or some playstation emulator, or when using SKYPE.
thanks for the infos but i can't register there to download a rom.what can we do for this?i don't speak russian
Latest Russian ROM
Hello everyone,
In case you are looking to download the very latest ROM from the Russian expert yevg001, here it is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/174859341/614c_WM6.1_20270_v1.4_rev1.1.rar.html
Yevgeny only created this ROM in the last couple of days and I believe it is based on the latest hp build - he says it is his newest and most stable WM6.1 ROM yet.
I haven't tried it yet.
axlastro said:
In my opinion, it's better to buy another standart battery and charger for it. I used to own a samsung i600 with two batteries - normal and extended and i had a separate charger for the battery. The only problem was, that i had to change the battery cover everytime i change the battery, which is not ery convenient. I think they sell a charger for about 5-6$ so you just charge the other battery and put it in your pocket. If you want to, you can buy two batteries. The ipaq is bulky enough with the normal battery.
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i think that i' ll buy this cradle from Brando:
http://shop.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=02686
it 'll enables me to charge the high capacity battery and the normal battery...
I installed the last ROM update from this thread..
until now, i still haven't found any bugs.. does anyone have found a bugs in this ROM?
I am still using the previous ROM, not the latest one that my link above goes to.
In the previous ROM, the most frustrating bug is the inability to do voice and data at the same time. Initiating or receiving a call immediately terminates the data connection. This is very frustrating - the best thing about 3G is being able to sync emails and so on while talking on the phone, particularly when using the 614c as a high-speed modem for your laptop.
Sadly, no more of this for me... the benefits of the Russian WM6.1 ROM outweigh this (albeit quite big) disadvantage.
Hi all
I installed the last ROM (20757) update from this thread and i dont see any news progams inside :
has also added a few little software applets into the image, but you don't need to use any of these.
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I found only basics HP and Microsoft programs on this rom.
Thanks
mire93600 said:
Hi all
I installed the last ROM (20757) update from this thread and i dont see any news progams inside :
I found only basics HP and Microsoft programs on this rom.
Thanks
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That's the beauty of your iPAQ,
you can tweak it in any way you like.
mine after I installed new ROM >> very stable (recomended)
miroslav.turek said:
Yevg001 has his iPAQ back from service and prepared new ROM:
OS 5.2.20757 (Build 20757.1.4.0) Ver 1.5
http://rapidshare.com/files/163730994/614c_wm61_20757.rar
Password: israpda.com
ROM was tested only one day.
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tweak with usefull application:
** TouchFLO2D/Manilla2D Skins
with a little bit change assigning voice commander button into <scroll right> function
herg62123 said:
ALL DEVICES (VERSION 19b) WITH YOUTUBE ON INTERNET WIDGET
RAPIDSHARE.........................MEGAUPLOAD
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>>> it's a zip file, Install application #09 only **09 Manila2D_0.11.all.devices**
then install Manilla 2D Customizer by mpenguin14 to configure it:
mpenguin14 said:
Manilla 2D Customizer (M2DC)
LATEST DOWNLOAD HERE (January 30 v0.28.233)
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then find the skin >> here
WARNING >> not all skins works well.. if you find not working skin, you can always try others.
and many others usefull and stable application:
Opera9.5.2392_WWE, AudioManager_2.0_1819.2129, and others (Install application inside Manila2D_0.11.all.devices** zip file)
Resco file & Registry Explorer 2008
usefull app from lots of http://www.dotfred.net/
(recommended) SH4Ys Pim Backup 2.8.CAB >> Backup tool Messages, Contacts, Logs, Tasks, appointment >> download here
AND MANY OTHERS APPLICATION !!!!!
(credits to all developer)
Move outlook message to storage card
found an article very useful for heavy e-mail user (like me) >> here so you can download large attachment file.
here it is:
Using a registry editor, create or edit the following entries:
HKLM\\System\Inbox\Settings\PropertyPath with value \Storage Card\Messaging
HKLM\\System\Inbox\Settings\AttachPath with value \Storage Card\Messaging\Attachments
Then move the entire Messaging folder under \Windows to \Storage Card and do a soft reset.
do carefully, i'm a newbie
One caveat is that you need to disable the "Messaging" Today plugin before your soft reset. If you don't do this, a second "\Storage Card" folder will be created in your ROM and your real Storage Card will be renamed "\Storage Card2", which isn't very useful is it?
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to edit registry >> use PHM Registry Editor to your Pocket PC to edit the registry...
to disable the Messaging Plugin, click on Start, Settings, Today, Items and untick the Messaging option...
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anw, I'm using resco explorer to edit registry
hipppo said:
I am still using the previous ROM, not the latest one that my link above goes to.
In the previous ROM, the most frustrating bug is the inability to do voice and data at the same time. Initiating or receiving a call immediately terminates the data connection. This is very frustrating - the best thing about 3G is being able to sync emails and so on while talking on the phone, particularly when using the 614c as a high-speed modem for your laptop.
Sadly, no more of this for me... the benefits of the Russian WM6.1 ROM outweigh this (albeit quite big) disadvantage.
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Hi Hipppo,
do you have any news about a newer ROM that does not have this problem ?
after using it a while did you find any other problem related to theses cooked rom ?
are thoses new ROMs comming with NetCF3.5 or older ?
Hello Albertorrent,
I have stopped using the yevg001 ROM mentioned in my first posting and I am now using his latest ROM which I think is called Build 20270.1.3.1 v1.4 rev1.2.
I have found this ROM to be stable, no problems. I recommend it.
It allows concurrent voice and data usage.
I am afraid my limited technical knowledge does not allow me to understand your question about NetCF3.5.
hipppo
Thanks,
I ordered my phone monday so I Might have it at the end of the week.
I'll try this new rom.
net CF is usefull to run some applications that has been developped whith it.
I just know that some application cannot install and run if there is not the latest CF (3.5) instaled
for exemple this one :
http://www.retrobits.net/ppc/ppc.shtml
you can find it here :
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/fr/index.php?soft=1187
thanks
just google it
albertorrent - i have the netcf3.5 as a separate Cab and i install in on the SD card. I haven't noticed any problem using it that way. I think it was somewhere on the forum but you can always google it. If you can't find it i can e-mail it to you. Right now i don't have it installed and I don't miss it much but some programs require it. At the moment I'm using the latest official 6.0 rom and i find the machine quite stable and fast with it. I had the 1.6 version of the russian 6.1 rom but for now i'm with 6.0
We have a new build of Opera 9.5 : 15894.
Known issues :
- ActiveX is disabled — Flash plugins and embedded video streaming do not work.
- Custom software keyboards (IME) will be buggy at best, not working at worst.
- No multilingual build — Only English is supported. Problems with other languages (and input methods) are not unexpected.
- Installation on memory cards may cause problems.
- Text wraps in overview mode.
- Main testing has been done on English HTC devices (Touch Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch, Touch Dual, Touch Cruise, TyTN and Wizard) and Samsung i900.
- Landscape mode does not take keyboard position into consideration.
- Devices with low memory might get Out Of Memory (OOM) messages.
- Opera is always running when the Widgets Manager is running.
On devices with hight DPI some of the pre-installed widgets look small.
- When an URL is opened from a widget, there will be an extra browser window opened in the background that’s not working properly.
Enjoy !!!
The cabs is for QVGA and VGA versions ! No reboot needed
White edition
Gears-enabled technical preview (Visit http://gears.google.com to download the Gears plugin for Opera Mobile)
LINKS : Mediafire RapidShare
Oke this is the update for the official beta2, to include "gears" functionality. Available from the official opera mobile site.
I tried it about a week ago, and my guess is that while it may be build 15894, it is just the beta 2 with gears functionality. That is, they did NOT create a new build from all the newest updates they made to the code.
They took the OLD code from beta2, added gears functionality, and made a new build. Of course in that case it is numbered as build 15894, but it is built actually using very old code.
Wait for a new build folks, the one that uses the most recent code Build 15592 is still the best and newest
For people more interested about gears: http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/02/20/
isn't this the same build with soft keyboard problems?
barty22 said:
Oke this is the update for the official beta2, to include "gears" functionality. Available from the official opera mobile site.
I tried it about a week ago, and my guess is that while it may be build 15894, it is just the beta 2 with gears functionality. That is, they did NOT create a new build from all the newest updates they made to the code.
They took the OLD code from beta2, added gears functionality, and made a new build. Of course in that case it is numbered as build 15894, but it is built actually using very old code.
Wait for a new build folks, the one that uses the most recent code Build 15592 is still the best and newest
For people more interested about gears: http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/02/20/
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where is build 15592?
the latest on xda is 15529
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where is build 15592?
the latest on xda is 15529
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Dyslexia...
Must have meant that one
Don't forget about the newest release, 15613 VGA only however...
I have never heard of that one before, where can it be found?
Edit: Found, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484704
Going to try it, thanks bobzero
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Don't forget about the newest release, 15613 VGA only however...
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I heard this build is pretty good. Sadly there is no QVGA version I can use on the Omnia.
Yes, I tried it and it's a very good build (15613)! Opera starts in about 1 second, much faster than any other builds. Apart from that, no weird bugs or limitations
Only thing is that it flips the screen orientation when it looses focus or is exited...
You can use it on qvga too, just replace it with a qvga skin. And change the zoom settings in opera:config. If you need help, ask me... but it's pretty easy and straightforward
actually the newest sprint diamond rom has opera 9.5 build 15954 in it, but I haven't seen it anywhere other than in that rom. (official Sprint Diamond ROM v2.00.651.6 CE OS 5.2.20764)
can someone bring that build on the thread please? right now I'm with build 15613 and it's working out so far but there's always updated code with better usability and stability...
Opera 9.5 versions thread
Hi to all Opera users
Please visit this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
The idea is to have in one thread all the different versions of Opera 9.5 circulating all over the forum, to get easy acces to them.
Please feel free to share about this and hope all can contribute
Thanks,
I made a cab of the newest version, build 15954: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486799
I just noticed there is an update for Microsoft Office Communicator Mobile 2007 R2 posted on MS's website:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969816
The release notes state there is Homescreen support for new Homescreens in WM 6.5+, plus integration within the phone dialer of 6.5+ phones. I assume then that WM 6.5 is almost ready?
Anyone with a 6.5 ROM installed this update yet? If so what are the new 6.5 features like? I am particularily interested in the integration with the phone dialer.
Andy
ADB100 said:
I just noticed there is an update for Microsoft Office Communicator Mobile 2007 R2 posted on MS's website:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/969816
The release notes state there is Homescreen support for new Homescreens in WM 6.5+, plus integration within the phone dialer of 6.5+ phones. I assume then that WM 6.5 is almost ready?
Anyone with a 6.5 ROM installed this update yet? If so what are the new 6.5 features like? I am particularily interested in the integration with the phone dialer.
Andy
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Tested this new version is working on 6.5 ROM Topaz cooked rom. Although in chome editor I could enable a tab for communicator, it doesn't appear on Today screen Titanium. Guess something is missing in the cpr or something.
zard said:
Tested this new version is working on 6.5 ROM Topaz cooked rom. Although in chome editor I could enable a tab for communicator, it doesn't appear on Today screen Titanium. Guess something is missing in the cpr or something.
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Not sure if you got yours working or not but if you enable the "Display on Today Screen" option under General settings it will activate a panel in Titanium..
cheers..
Hi there!
I don't like manila / TouchFLO / Sense. I use SPB Mobile Shell and I'm quite contempt with that. I'm on WM 6.1 -would there be any reason for me to move to WM 6.5? I mean in terms of functionality?
windows 6.5 and SPB shell
Hi,
I've just updated my windows and found a lot of interference from windows 6.5 when using the sbp shell. Im considering to go back to 6.1.
If anyone can help to get 6.5 to work with spb shell please do.
Thanks!
Thanks, I guess I'll stick with 6.1 for now
No reason at all really, SPB Mobile Shell hides the interface of WM6.1 very good and you hardly see it. WM6.5 is laggy and unstable imo so I will stay with 6.1 for a while..
Cool, I'll do the same
I just hope SPB Mobile Shell will run smoothly on the HTC Leo when I get my hands on it
niknik76 said:
Cool, I'll do the same
I just hope SPB Mobile Shell will run smoothly on the HTC Leo when I get my hands on it
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No worries dude, if it can run WM6.5+HTC Sense 2.5/2.6 it will 100% run SPBMS without problems.
i think manila is much better than spb
spb shell 3.5 and wm6.5
i am using spb shell 3.5 with wm 6.5 for a couple of weeks without any problems.
The improvement of wm6.5 which is more finger friendly than 6.1. Is a better match for MS3.5.
Athorwise it doesn't matter much, what you use, because you're using MS3.5 most of the time.
You have to manually disable HTC Sense. Without third party applications they don't work well together.
I use tfd detacher to switch between them, but the downside is that it uses a lot of resources.
HTC Sense looks nicer but MS3.5 is more flexible and efficient when you design the lifestyle screen(s) to your needs.
I haven't tried wm 6.5.
From what I learn about the information of wm 6.5, I don't find anything that worth upgrading. I will stick to wm 6.1.
Feedback
I have installed SBP Mobile Shell 3.5 over my WM 6.1 and it works great .
I like below features of Mobile Shell:
- Multiple pages in home page (placed side by side), which can be used for multiple items in home page.
- Beautiful scrolling/touch.
- Widget features that can be placed anywhere in home page (in all pages).
There are couple of issues too:
- There is NO interface for making calls to a new number.
- We need to use the Luncher - Programs - Phone.
- But the other features of the call window does not work. Like we cant open the call history/contacts etc from that screen
Also refer another similar thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573320
Thanks.
You can press the call button or you can add the phone as an widget.
prabhat said:
- There is NO interface for making calls to a new number.
- We need to use the Luncher - Programs - Phone.
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Press call send key?
ArtieQ said:
Press call send key?
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Yes I know that and that is what I said in the post.
It does work by pressing the call key or adding the widget of the Phone too.
But the issue is:
- Other functions on the call window (like the opening contacts during call) etc does not work .
I am not sure how offen you open you contacts during a call. Which is NOT possible when you have SBPMS installed . Similarly there are many other issues too.
Thanks.
Indeed the functions on the call menu work only when touchflo3d is activated.
I think the shortcuts go to the actual touchflo3d.
Maybe there is a registry change so you can point them to the actual program and not to the touchflo3d alternative.
My workaround is press Startmenu - Today and from here anywhere you want.
You can read about this problem in the SPB shell forum under Topaz/Rhodium Dailer issue. They know the problem. The question is why is takes so long to come with an answer.
f.canak said:
Indeed the functions on the call menu work only when touchflo3d is activated.
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Yes. That is TRUE. It does work when TF3D is ON.
f.canak said:
You can read about this problem in the SPB shell forum under Topaz/Rhodium Dailer issue. They know the problem. The question is why is takes so long to come with an answer.
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Ohh OK. Thanks for this info. Infact I did a post in their fourum, but no reply yet.
May be we need to wait for 6.5 from HTC for TD2 and may be that will be more user / finger friendly.
But it is sure that it will NOT have the beautiful Multiple Pages in Home Page .
Or a newer version from SBP with a Phone/Call widget similar to default dialer.
PS: also I found the image viewer from camera menu is much better in default WM 6.1 than SBPMS.
Thanks.
Mobile Shell 3.5 is slooooow
I was extremely happy with 3.0 and decided to upgrade to 3.5. I like some of the extra features a lot but I quickly noticed that this eye candy has two major drawbacks:
- My battery drained twice as fast, reminding me of my Diamond 1
- The - otherwise very attractive - GUI is slower; opening the Wireless Manager takes 1.5 seconds and other operations that were very swift before were now slow and shaky
So I reverted to 3.0 (I have build 6501) and things are again what they were before: fast and beautiful!
I don't experience any decrease in speed jumping from 3.0 to 3.5
And my battery life improved
So I guess there must be different effects on different ROMs, settings or other stuff...
"Windows Mobile 6.5.3 brings a more finger-friendly user interface with several new ease of use features such as support for multitouch"
quote from wiki.
so the question is, whether there is native api for multi-touch (and not using HTC ZOOM_IN or whatever messages)
couldn't find any more info
flunik said:
"Windows Mobile 6.5.3 brings a more finger-friendly user interface with several new ease of use features such as support for multitouch"
quote from wiki.
so the question is, whether there is native api for multi-touch (and not using HTC ZOOM_IN or whatever messages)
couldn't find any more info
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I think they mean Windows Phone 7. As far a I know there isn't any native support for multitouch in WM 6.5.3 The multi-touch features are implemented in a special OEM driver. (But then again, 6.5.3 is a OEM branch, right?)
appelflap said:
I think they mean Windows Phone 7. As far a I know there isn't any native support for multitouch in WM 6.5.3 The multi-touch features are implemented in a special OEM driver. (But then again, 6.5.3 is a OEM branch, right?)
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i mean 6.5.3
just google "windows mobile 6.5.3 multi touch" everyone's just shouting about the native multi-touch support and capacitative screens.
i'm gonna try to download 6.5.3 DTK for VS.
probably there are sample of new API.
"electronista.com" says "Hooks have also been put in place for multi-touch, though this would still need phone builders to have an actual solution"
flunik said:
i mean 6.5.3
just google "windows mobile 6.5.3 multi touch" everyone's just shouting about the native multi-touch support and capacitative screens.
i'm gonna try to download 6.5.3 DTK for VS.
probably there are sample of new API.
"electronista.com" says "Hooks have also been put in place for multi-touch, though this would still need phone builders to have an actual solution"
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I think you are right that there a native api support for multitouch gestures: look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591698 (There's no import of any additional package required)
EDIT: hold on, this was written for WM 6.5 if I can remember it well. So..
appelflap said:
I think you are right that there a native api support for multitouch gestures: look at this:
(There's no import of any additional package required)
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the post is 29th November 2009. the solution from l3v5y works on WinMo 6.5.0 (currently i have 6.5.0) so i guess it's also some kind of hack(non native).
also these solutions (also scillors) have some weird bug: when 2 points are almost on the same axis, you get them aligned.
i don't know if that's the driver or hardware issue.
both solutions by l3v5y and scillor are based on HTC drivers as i see.
flunik said:
the post is 29th November 2009. the solution from l3v5y works on WinMo 6.5.0 (currently i have 6.5.0) so i guess it's also some kind of hack(non native).
also these solutions (also scillors) have some weird bug: when 2 points are almost on the same axis, you get them aligned.
i don't know if that's the driver or hardware issue.
both solutions by l3v5y and scillor are based on HTC drivers as i see.
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Ok, I'm getting pretty curious myself. I've browsed through the windows mobile docs on MSDN, browsed through the forums there, did a search on multitouch, but I really can't find anything. The only thing I could find was something about "gesture api's". But these were already implemented in the 6.5 sdk.
So, if you are finding something on this please let me know
(and you are right, when you do a search on 6.5.3 and multitouch on google you get plenty hits about it. The first hit is your first post by the way... lol )
appelflap said:
Ok, I'm getting pretty curious myself. I've browsed through the windows mobile docs on MSDN, browsed through the forums there, did a search on , but I really can't find anything. The only thing I could find was something about "gesture api's". But these were already implemented in the 6.5 sdk.
So, if you are finding something on this please let me know
(and you are right, when you do a search on 6.5.3 and multitouch on google you get plenty hits about it. The first hit is your first post by the way... lol )
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its 6'th to me (rofl) that's some great SEO
just downloaded WM 6.0 SDK, and 6.5.3 DTK...
it seems that the gesture api got expanded or whatever...
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seems we'll have to wait for SDK :>
the easiest way to try, would be to reflash my hd2 with winmo 6.5.3 and catch messages, and see if they differ somehow..