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Best VGA Browser

I am soon to get a XDA Exec, and I was wondering what the best VGA web browser for the Universal is. I dont want to have to make my whole system VGA, so it would be better if the browser had VGA options as default. Is there any way to use PIE in VGA without changing the whole system? Which is best out of minimo, opera and netfront?
Thanks

The best one out of these three is FtxPbrowser . (with the mui hack)

You may want to consider....
You may also want to look at Opera. The version for WM5 is still in beta though, but you can download and try it out. I'm guessing that the final browser will be released within the next month or so. The beta is free to try, but you'll have to pay for the final version. Great browser though.
Justin

Go with Opera. I've tried the three you mentioned, and while they're all quite ok, I found minimo to be painfully slow, and NetFront to often have problems displaying pages correctly. Opera installed and worked flawlessly right from the start.

yes Opera is best around at the moment:
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/winmobileppc/index.dml

I had problems with font size using opera... some fonts are very big at some www places.. using netfront it seems ok. opera may be more compatible with JavaScripts, etc.. but I found Netfront more optimized to the mobile environment: virtual canvas size, fast rendering mode, etc.. it loads faster..

Thanks alot for the help. Does Opera need a VGA patch to run in VGA, or does it do it by default?
Thanks

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On the OPERA site, it states the beta is going to end June 1st 2006. Does that mean after that date, the application will stop working unless we buy it from them?

cktlcmd said:
On the OPERA site, it states the beta is going to end June 1st 2006. Does that mean after that date, the application will stop working unless we buy it from them?
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yes, you are right. After that, they may release full retail version or they may release beta 2

kdskamal said:
cktlcmd said:
On the OPERA site, it states the beta is going to end June 1st 2006. Does that mean after that date, the application will stop working unless we buy it from them?
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yes, you are right. After that, they may release full retail version or they may release beta 2
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Erm...beta 2 has been out for about two months now, and they've removed the limited duration thing.

I am testing out the PIEPlus V2.0 Beta1 on my Universal. Not bad with performance. It allows 2 views (normal vs column) and tab browsing, pretty convienent. No font issue like Opera. Worth a try...

I'am using a final version of NetFront 3.3 browser and i'm think for VGA device is the best of all browser. Final version 3.3 support VGA displays, WM5.0, Flash, Java, tables and other web elements (and its very fast)...

jerrry said:
I'am using a final version of NetFront 3.3 browser and i'm think for VGA device is the best of all browser. Final version 3.3 support VGA displays, WM5.0, Flash, Java, tables and other web elements (and its very fast)...
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could you post a link to this version, all i can find is the trial version

I today downloaded their latest trial version. Maybe I am doing something wrong but it still does not support flash and java and has the usual limitations of the previous trial versions. Though the final commercial version will support all this.
There is also a news item on their site that the commercial version will be available by end of this month for US $ 29.80
Regards

srmz said:
I today downloaded their latest trial version. Maybe I am doing something wrong but it still does not support flash and java and has the usual limitations of the previous trial versions. Though the final commercial version will support all this.
There is also a news item on their site that the commercial version will be available by end of this month for US $ 29.80
Regards
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any progress in this problem? I'm sucking with this, too...

Rapax:
I have just looked on the Opera site and it is still saying it expires June 1st, where did you see the version that doesn't expire?
jerrry:
Where di dyou get the final version of Netfront 3.3 as the version on its website is just a technical preview?

I think we have not answered the original question yet (as posted in the very beginning of this subject).
Which web browser that will work in high resolution (VGA) even though the WM5 is running in normal QVGA mode?
Does either NetFront or Opera actually display the browser in VGA mode even the WM5 running in QVGA mode or it only works in VGA mode if the WM5 running in VGA mode.
I myself personally prefer to run my Uni in normal QVGA mode, but for certain application, I would love VGA. PocketXPDF for example, is excelent! Its actually display the PDF file in high VGA resolution even though the WM5 is running QVGA. Other excellent examples are: Logmein.com that can display full 640 x 480 remote desktop smoothly though the WM5 is running QVGA, and lastly, Google Map, also does the same thing.
So, back to the original question, which web browser that can do that?

srmz said:
I today downloaded their latest trial version. Maybe I am doing something wrong but it still does not support flash and java and has the usual limitations of the previous trial versions. Though the final commercial version will support all this.
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Only the retail version provides the user to use flash and java.

lie_ui said:
Which web browser that will work in high resolution (VGA) even though the WM5 is running in normal QVGA mode?
Does either NetFront or Opera actually display the browser in VGA mode even the WM5 running in QVGA mode or it only works in VGA mode if the WM5 running in VGA mode.
So, back to the original question, which web browser that can do that?
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6680abhi said:
Thanks alot for the help. Does Opera need a VGA patch to run in VGA, or does it do it by default?
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Opera Mini MOD - great improvements..

Hi all - have been looking around but have not seen any talks about OPERA MINI MOD, so here it comes.
A modded version of OPERA MINI...
A Russian guy DG-SC are doing lots of improvements on Operamini and has created a version with far more functionality than seen in official versions.
I belive its build is based on version 2/3, released july 07.
Some improvements / changes:
download support,
tab-browsing,
landscape mode,
traffic manager,
file manager with picture/text viewer,
saving pages,
ability to assign shortcuts,
auto refresh,
"shadow connect" feature,
bookmarks import/export,
text selection from webpages,
FTP client,
uses Google as search engine,
hide bottom bar,
change screen size,
page templates and more.
--- and the lost function in the newest version of the official - change of layout colors...
Most of what is written is in Russian but Google helps...
http://www.opera-mini.ru/index_e.html
I am a fan of OperaMini but I must admit that I am quite impressed. This mod is by far much more like a normal browser but still has the speed of the normal Mini.

How on earth do you get it into english?

are the test versions in english?

how I did it - i belive..
well. I started by installing version 2.00. Thats in english. Then I opened opera and opened the opera mod link and installed 2.04. It then kept the settings - and english language..
I guess that was what I did, but I will try to reinstall later to see.

Where can I get version 2.0 of Opera Mini?
The Offical site only shows version 3 and above.
ta.

kismat1970 said:
Where can I get version 2.0 of Opera Mini?
The Offical site only shows version 3 and above.
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If you look for the modded versions just follow the link in the first post

This looks ace, but how the hell to get it into english so we can play with the settings. your method didn't work for me, perhaps you can describe where it is in the settings (if it's there?). I've tried changing everything that's selectable, but it's still in cyrillic.

[updated] 20-10-08 Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta 2

Opera updated today their open beta in http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/ . Now it seems they have an Symbian UIQ version too.
This version also includes the Opera widgets plataform. I dont tested yet and dont know the core build number.

flitzjoy said:
Opera updated today their open beta in http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/download/ . Now it seems they have an Symbian UIQ version too.
This version also includes the Opera widgets plataform. I dont tested yet and dont know the core build number.
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If I look at the Known Issues then nothing works
ActiveX is disabled - Flash plugins and embedded video streaming do not work.
Custom software keyboards (IME) will be buggy at best, not working at worst.
No multilingual build - Only English is supported. Problems with other languages (and input methods) are not unexpected.
Installation on memory cards may cause problems.
Text wraps in overview mode.
Main testing has been done on English HTC devices (Touch Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch, Touch Dual, Touch Cruise, TyTN and Wizard) and Samsung i900.
Landscape mode does not take keyboard position into consideration.
Devices with low memory might get Out Of Memory (OOM) messages.
Opera is always running when the Widgets Manager is running.
On devices with hight DPI some of the pre-installed widgets look small.
When an URL is opened from a widget, there will be an extra browser window opened in the background that's not working properly.

Ok I installed it in my Diamond.
Its build 2723 and seems to be really fast. I installed into device and it doesn't messed up with my ROM's Opera.
The navigation is really fine but the whole widget thing is very buggy. Once you run Widgets the browser doesn't run anymore. You need to kill Opera and OperaL process or softreset. Avoiding widgets you will have a great experience.

Ok, some minutes later and I've got another impression.
Beta 2 is fast and render better some pages (gmail in normal view for example) but its unusable. The shortcut calls sometimes default Opera, sometimes the beta version. Always when I close beta version it displays widgets and i cant open the browser again. Download only for testing purposes.

flitzjoy said:
Ok, some minutes later and I've got another impression.
Beta 2 is fast and render better some pages (gmail in normal view for example) but its unusable. The shortcut calls sometimes default Opera, sometimes the beta version. Always when I close beta version it displays widgets and i cant open the browser again. Download only for testing purposes.
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You have two versions of Opera installed on your device simultaneously... expect problems!

Doesn't seem to take advantage of the accelerometer in the Diamond.

Wow, sad to see that Opera still sucks so much.
Also their forums are full of rants and the mods over there keep censoring and deleting forum postings and even whole threads.
Don't know what's going on, but commercial WM development is getting worse with every day. Just look at CorePlayer, STILL no fixed build for the Diamond, they even don't manage to put a build out which at least fixes the every now and then hickup while playing music.
On the other hand underground development is going higher every day, as seen in this forum.

stpete111 said:
You have two versions of Opera installed on your device simultaneously... expect problems!
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Installed the build 2723 and removed the previous Opera9 and OperaL. Indeed, the speed is impressive! Opera Browser is now automatically loaded after each soft rest, however. Is there any way to avoid the auto-load after soft rest? As in the precious setting, I prefer to open/load the Opera Browser when needed in order to save memory.
Also, if Opera Browser is closed after being loaded into the memory (at the soft reset), it can't be re-opened without another soft rest. Any one encounters the same and may have solutions?

Can anyone please make the Beta 2 as an vga SD version...

Opera Build 16070

found this new Opera build 16070 on another site, works fine with xperia
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XKXM86YU

it's extracted from the new blackstone rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501751

I have found that most Opera builds extracted from other HTC devices do not support the touchpad nor the volume control enabled zooming the stock-rom support by default.
Is this one any different?

Does this have the physical keyboard problem the previews build had ?
The one that only allows one letter entry at a time bug.

Can someone please point me to the latest opera build that supports the touchpad. Have tested many versions but none seem to support the touchpad so am forced to use an old build that has crap zoom function and text flow.

AF241 said:
Can someone please point me to the latest opera build that supports the touchpad. Have tested many versions but none seem to support the touchpad so am forced to use an old build that has crap zoom function and text flow.
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what about Opera site?

wow, this build just totally screwed up my phone.
It doesnt connect to any pages and I can't delete it. Now my weather and stocks tab cant connect to the internet anymore, as well as internet explorer.
What the hell is going on? When I try to remove the program, it says that Opera cannot be removed? wtf..?

chris28j said:
wow, this build just totally screwed up my phone.
It doesnt connect to any pages and I can't delete it. Now my weather and stocks tab cant connect to the internet anymore, as well as internet explorer.
What the hell is going on? When I try to remove the program, it says that Opera cannot be removed? wtf..?
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Did you try to remove program files in file manager?

Does anyone know when Opera Turbo is being released, it looks amazing Build 9.7 that is. This version seems faster but isn't optimized for the X1 the icons are too small for easy finger usage. opera turbo however looks like it has similar icons to the current version.

Opera Mobile 9.7 Beta 1 is Out!!!!!!

Here is the Link to Opera Mobile's FTP Server to Download the New Beta of Opera Mobile 7 Beta 1:
ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/
I'm Downloading and Installing it now.....Will update you all soon.
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I installed it on my QVGA HTC Touch WM 6.1 (Build 21014) on the SD Card and
It Loads without any lag, Fairly fast. Renders and loads pages Pretty well too. No Major issues so far. Graphics and UI look pretty good. I still have to load the Widget Manager and try it out, never was a big fan of these. I will attempt to post some screen shots, but I am at work and may not be able to.
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KNOWN BETA ISSUES:
Browser
Opera Turbo in Opera Mobile is still a preview-feature;
Downloads don't work while Opera Turbo is enabled.
Some settings (such as toggle on/off images) do not apply when Opera Turbo is enabled.
On older WM 5.0 Devices with 480x800 resolution, switching between portrait and landscape may cause display errors. This is due to lack of support for this resolution in early versions of Microsoft's driver.
Some input method editors are known not to work well with Opera because they do not comply with Microsoft's SIP and/or IME standard. When such an editor is detected by Opera, Opera will use a known (default) input method instead. An exception is EzInput v1.5, where the phone keypad and compact QUERTY, ABC mode doesn't work, but the rest of the modes work fine. We recommend upgrading to EzInput v2.0 to avoid this.
Only support for FlashLite 3.x. No Flash plugin included.
Widget manager add-on
The Widget manager is an add-on to the browser, so the browser must be installed in order for the widget manager to work.
We recommend disabling Opera Turbo in the browser when using the widget manager.
Rotating widgets does not work properly. Portrait mode should be used when running widgets.
Widgets + Plugins (Flash & Gears) don't work.
Clicking internal links in a widget will launch the browser.
Twitter widget might have login problems on first run. If this happens, just close the Twitter widget (X) and open it again.

omg omg omg
downloading..
ill post screensnhots

haha good thing i didn't go to sleep will try and put screen shots too.

omg it has lag!
looks like its not made for all resolutions
qvga looks freaking weird and lags bad :S

Just downloaded an testing ... another link in megaupload with the two cabs: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OWRCCJ4Q

Yeah I installed it a few minutes ago.
It's just a mess. I guess it isn't for QVGA? Anyone with a VGA device have it working right?

lags bad... :S

yea me too just installed it n it didn't even load.

Hopefully they fix this or it will be an extremely disappointing release

It's awesome on my ATT Fuze (VGA), no flash if people care, also the turbo mode seems to load mobile pages perhaps

Are you guys even using the right cab? I did a little research with the folders on the opera.com domain and got to this:
http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/
Download the first cab.
I just tried it on my qvga device and its amazing. NO lag. It runs. Nothing seems messed up. Scrolling is EXTREMELY smooth, it's as smooth as the omnia versions but doesn't suffer with the auto-full screen bug and it doesnt lock up while loading as well.
Opera turbo works, though its disabled by default.
So far, i absolutely LOVE it!

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Are you guys even using the right cab? I did a little research with the folders on the opera.com domain and got to this:
http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/
Download the first cab.
I just tried it on my qvga device and its amazing. NO lag. It runs. Nothing seems messed up. Scrolling is EXTREMELY smooth, as smooth as the omnia versions.
Opera turbo works, though its disabled by default.
So far, i absolutely LOVE it!
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I have to agree with zeuzinn, So far it's great on my QVGA Touch. The Link I provided is the only one I found.

This is awesome. Was just wondering about this and was about to go to sleep. Then I hit the New Posts Button. Installing on my Topaz right now.

I gotta say, its MUCH faster than opera 9.5 even with opera turbo disabled, thanks to the new rendering engine.
I just tried the ACID3 test and got 100/100!!!!

can i please get a link to the VGA version ??

ranasrule said:
can i please get a link to the VGA version ??
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This is the only version posted on Opera's FTP as of now.

ems275 said:
This is the only version posted on Opera's FTP as of now.
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so the version posted on the ftp is QVGA ?

What's the difference between the two on the FTP?

ranasrule said:
so the version posted on the ftp is QVGA ?
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I am assuming so, I have a QVGA device and it looks great, but I thought someone else said it worked on VGA too???

ranasrule said:
so the version posted on the ftp is QVGA ?
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umm i think it has both versions in there how ever you can try this one ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/ when i look in the folder i saw a VGA sub folder in there so idk.