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Which is the best web browser to use?

Which is the best option for a web browser on the XDA Exec. THe supplied IE is quite slow and the pixel doubling insane. I have tried Netfront 3.3 but that seems far slower than IE.
Which is the best browser solution for speed and visibility? Please ;o)

opera 8.5
i have just used the opera 8.5. the speed is slightly slower than IE but it is 100% full born browser. with good view in and out capability.

Opera all the way
I have just started using Opera 8.5 for WM5 and have already forgotten about about clumsy PIE. Works even better if you overclock your jasjar to 624Mhz

I have installed Opera and it is great. EXCEPT all the options are I assume in Japanese as I just get squares instead of text. Is there any way to set it to English?
Thanks!

Opera
I installed with help from this forum, and I agree it is the best. All my options are showing up in English with no problem. It does a MUCH better job than PIE. Very close to desktop browsing experience.

Strange. Which instructions did you use to install Opera?
Cheers...

Only "issue" I have with Opera at the moment, is the double-space bug when you are typing into a text box. Find a fix for that, and it's a great bit of kit.
Cheers,
Steve.

I really like netfront (the latest preview)

I also have the square characteres (Japanese!?).
Tried also to install after regional settings set to 'English UK', but no way.
Anyone who had the same problem, figured out, how to solve it?
No instructions for this issue, found in the forum.

ought & Conchas,
The instructions I used are on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=195706
Cheers!

Ought,
see the thread Shivafool mentioned (end of page 3).
It seems the file for english language is not distributed within the CAB file.
you have to add it by your own and edit the .ini file.
Know it works for me.
Great

Netfront Latest Preview
Does the latest Netfront suport VGA screens - assuming it now runs on WM5?

Could someone post the en.lng file on the ftp, Im missing it also and dont have time to learn japanese this side of 2007 !
Many Thanks

Ricardo,
you can download it from http://www.ratcom.plus.com/files/english.rar

Many thanks, all working fine now.

illwil,
See this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36041&highlight=netfront+3+3
It seems it does support VGA but doesn't claim to be fully WM5 compliant yet. The technical preview is supposed to work until 1/31.

New Opera Mini 4.1 version released !!

Hello,
Today was released to the public Opera Mini v4.1
You can download it here, or here for the signed versions.
One of the new features of this version is Direct address input, that makes a lot easier to input any web address.
But I'm having a trouble with it.
I'm using the latest Esmertec Jbed, build 20080222.3.1, and Opera Mini (all versions) runs in full screen without up and down bar. And without that I can't activate the keyboard...
Does anyone knows how to prevent Opera Mini to lauch in fullscreen??
By the way, here's the latest Esmertec Jbed version

Yeah, the best browser for low traffic, i`m using it on my MPx200

wow amazing we can actually download and upload files through opera mini now.

cheers does anyone know how to stop the anoying "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar)?? I tried all the signed Midlett installs, but none of them worked, just got a error saying "Midlet no signed". Ended up installing Opera Mini unsigned. (Using TAO Java)
Cheers,

mugglesquop said:
cheers does anyone know how to stop the anoying "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar)?? I tried all the signed Midlett installs, but none of them worked, just got a error saying "Midlet no signed". Ended up installing Opera Mini unsigned. (Using TAO Java)
Cheers,
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Try with Esmertec Java

"Opera claims the new version is 50% faster than Opera Mini 4.0"
can anyone confirm this ? if this is true this alone would make it worth upgrading.
also I have my Opera Mini set up as default browser thru that hack that's going around. if I upgrade do I have to do that over ? And will I lose my bookmarks and everything ?
thanks for the help !

4.1 is supposed to handle downloads now too! About time...

Yup that is very true noellenchris, and it works very good on my S710 using latest esmertec jbed!!!

PLESTIUC said:
"Opera claims the new version is 50% faster than Opera Mini 4.0"
can anyone confirm this ? if this is true this alone would make it worth upgrading.
also I have my Opera Mini set up as default browser thru that hack that's going around. if I upgrade do I have to do that over ? And will I lose my bookmarks and everything ?
thanks for the help !
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I thought I read somewhere that opera 4.1 is ".. UP to 50% faster than 4.0 ..." in the Kaiser Software section".
If you install 4.1, you have to redo your bookmarks, speed dials, rss feeds, etc. To me, it's worth it. I can see the speed increase in page rendering and the auto completion for a web address is a nice time saving feature as well. There is a minor bug though ... you can't backspace when typing an web address. You have to 'insert symbol' in the drop down box to edit the web address. I uninstalled 4.0 for 4.1. But you can install 4.1 and still keep 4.0 if you wanted to since these are two diferent versions of the same app.

robosiris said:
I thought I read somewhere that opera 4.1 is ".. UP to 50% faster than 4.0 ..." in the Kaiser Software section".
If you install 4.1, you have to redo your bookmarks, speed dials, rss feeds, etc. To me, it's worth it. I can see the speed increase in page rendering and the auto completion for a web address is a nice time saving feature as well. There is a minor bug though ... you can't backspace when typing an web address. You have to 'insert symbol' in the drop down box to edit the web address. I uninstalled 4.0 for 4.1. But you can install 4.1 and still keep 4.0 if you wanted to since these are two diferent versions of the same app.
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very informative. thank you.

onesolo said:
Hello,
Today was released to the public Opera Mini v4.1
You can download it here, or here for the signed versions.
One of the new features of this version is Direct address input, that makes a lot easier to input any web address.
But I'm having a trouble with it.
I'm using the latest Esmertec Jbed, build 20080222.3.1, and Opera Mini (all versions) runs in full screen without up and down bar. And without that I can't activate the keyboard...
Does anyone knows how to prevent Opera Mini to lauch in fullscreen??
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I am having the same problem
can't access my on screen keyboard can anyone help?

PPC version
Is there an actual PPC version?
Or does it only work with JAVA??
I see all downloads there is .jar .jad and blackberry versions
Any info?

Thought it was always a JAVA application, would love to see a native PPC version though.

chrisd1a1 said:
I am having the same problem
can't access my on screen keyboard can anyone help?
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menu->tools->settings then uncheck Direct address input will allow the on screen keyboard to work.

chrisd1a1 said:
I am having the same problem
can't access my on screen keyboard can anyone help?
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Try to in settings uncheck 'Direct address input' options.

mugglesquop said:
cheers does anyone know how to stop the anoying "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar)?? I tried all the signed Midlett installs, but none of them worked, just got a error saying "Midlet no signed". Ended up installing Opera Mini unsigned. (Using TAO Java)
Cheers,
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Hmm, I'm using the multi-signed version and no longer asks "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar) bla bla talk...
Maybe it's because you are using TAO Java. Try to use Esmertec Jbed, it's the best virtual machine...

onesolo said:
Hmm, I'm using the multi-signed version and no longer asks "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar) bla bla talk...
Maybe it's because you are using TAO Java. Try to use Esmertec Jbed, it's the best virtual machine...
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Same here no problems with Esmertec Jbed. Lovin OperaMini even more..!
Chris

You just didn't get the point....
minz215 said:
menu->tools->settings then uncheck Direct address input will allow the on screen keyboard to work.
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yeah, we all know that, but that's not what we want. We want Direct address input enable and to be able to use the soft keyboard (for example on my Prophet). And because Opera mini stays in Fullscreen, due to the upper and lower bars, we can't acess the soft keyboard. Get it??
By the way, my father has an Sony Ericsson K800i, I tested a few minutes ago, and the version of Operamini for that mobile has an option to enable/disable the fullscreen. Damn it!!

minz215 said:
menu->tools->settings then uncheck Direct address input will allow the on screen keyboard to work.
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cheers for that, can at least add my bookmarks

Works like a charm with esmertec jbed. I had some trouble downloading the signed version, since downloading from pocketIE automatically launched the tao midlet manager (which didn't recognize the bertificate btw), so i ended up going to mini.opera.com/beta with firefox with wap plugin installed and grabbing the high memory .jad signed with multiple certificates from there
Having signed version allows to permanently allow access to internet and filesystem.
For the direct address input - it seems to work only with numerical keys (so a sip like phone pad should work). Disabling the direct url input allows to use normal keyboard SIP or hardware keyboard just like in previous version.
Downloading really does work - that's probably the best feature of new opera - no more pocketIE launching needed
Overall, i really like the new version. The only change i would like to see in in is allowing to use hardware keyboard with direct URL entry.

New Opera 9.5 build 15894

We have a new build of Opera 9.5 : 15894.
Known issues :
- ActiveX is disabled — Flash plugins and embedded video streaming do not work.
- Custom software keyboards (IME) will be buggy at best, not working at worst.
- No multilingual build — Only English is supported. Problems with other languages (and input methods) are not unexpected.
- Installation on memory cards may cause problems.
- Text wraps in overview mode.
- Main testing has been done on English HTC devices (Touch Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch, Touch Dual, Touch Cruise, TyTN and Wizard) and Samsung i900.
- Landscape mode does not take keyboard position into consideration.
- Devices with low memory might get Out Of Memory (OOM) messages.
- Opera is always running when the Widgets Manager is running.
On devices with hight DPI some of the pre-installed widgets look small.
- When an URL is opened from a widget, there will be an extra browser window opened in the background that’s not working properly.
Enjoy !!!
The cabs is for QVGA and VGA versions ! No reboot needed
White edition
Gears-enabled technical preview (Visit http://gears.google.com to download the Gears plugin for Opera Mobile)
LINKS : Mediafire RapidShare

Oke this is the update for the official beta2, to include "gears" functionality. Available from the official opera mobile site.
I tried it about a week ago, and my guess is that while it may be build 15894, it is just the beta 2 with gears functionality. That is, they did NOT create a new build from all the newest updates they made to the code.
They took the OLD code from beta2, added gears functionality, and made a new build. Of course in that case it is numbered as build 15894, but it is built actually using very old code.
Wait for a new build folks, the one that uses the most recent code Build 15592 is still the best and newest
For people more interested about gears: http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/02/20/

isn't this the same build with soft keyboard problems?

barty22 said:
Oke this is the update for the official beta2, to include "gears" functionality. Available from the official opera mobile site.
I tried it about a week ago, and my guess is that while it may be build 15894, it is just the beta 2 with gears functionality. That is, they did NOT create a new build from all the newest updates they made to the code.
They took the OLD code from beta2, added gears functionality, and made a new build. Of course in that case it is numbered as build 15894, but it is built actually using very old code.
Wait for a new build folks, the one that uses the most recent code Build 15592 is still the best and newest
For people more interested about gears: http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/02/20/
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where is build 15592?
the latest on xda is 15529

htctoucher said:
where is build 15592?
the latest on xda is 15529
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Dyslexia...

Must have meant that one

Don't forget about the newest release, 15613 VGA only however...

I have never heard of that one before, where can it be found?
Edit: Found, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=484704
Going to try it, thanks bobzero

bobzero said:
Don't forget about the newest release, 15613 VGA only however...
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I heard this build is pretty good. Sadly there is no QVGA version I can use on the Omnia.

Yes, I tried it and it's a very good build (15613)! Opera starts in about 1 second, much faster than any other builds. Apart from that, no weird bugs or limitations
Only thing is that it flips the screen orientation when it looses focus or is exited...
You can use it on qvga too, just replace it with a qvga skin. And change the zoom settings in opera:config. If you need help, ask me... but it's pretty easy and straightforward

actually the newest sprint diamond rom has opera 9.5 build 15954 in it, but I haven't seen it anywhere other than in that rom. (official Sprint Diamond ROM v2.00.651.6 CE OS 5.2.20764)

can someone bring that build on the thread please? right now I'm with build 15613 and it's working out so far but there's always updated code with better usability and stability...

Opera 9.5 versions thread
Hi to all Opera users
Please visit this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
The idea is to have in one thread all the different versions of Opera 9.5 circulating all over the forum, to get easy acces to them.
Please feel free to share about this and hope all can contribute
Thanks,

I made a cab of the newest version, build 15954: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486799

Opera...which freaking version?

Ok, I hope I dont get ripped into for this..but I couldnt find the answer.
I always found the web browsing experience pretty woeful on my X1...esp compared to the ifone. When you scroll up/down its juddery, giving me the two grey squares until it catches up on itself. Its really bad. I have installed various versions of Opera...the one I have stuck with is the version i found on this forum...when zooming you use an invisible scroll top right on the screen (does that make sense?)
Anyhoo, I then installed the superb Touch-it4.5...the version of opera in it is truely awesome! The juddering was gone, silky smooth and had a zoom button bottom left which worked even better than the version I was using...but...the hardware keyboard didnt work (I noticed a few other people had the same issue and the fix was to install another version). When going back, its all juddery again...did anybody get a fix for that version? What version does everybody else use as there are so many floating about.
Also, a little of topic but I was reading about a version of Opera (only on the symbian os so far?) that when you are presented with a bunch of buttons or text boxes (say for example a login/pass box) you simply click on them and it enlarges the boxs to full screen automatically and makes it alot easier to put in usernames/passes etc.
Thanks in advance folks, maybe once we get a complete fool proof guide we could stick the findings into the x1 tweaks, apps and panels thread!

fracmo2000 said:
did anybody get a fix for that version? What version does everybody else use as there are so many floating about.
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Unfortunately the working and non-working items are all within the Opera9.exe itself:
1. Vibration
2. Scroll with optical pad
3. Zoom with volume buttons
4. HW keyboard interaction.
5. PushInternet support
So there's very little chance of a "perfect" Opera version. I use 15991 with Zoom enabled on a PI enabled ROM or 15696 on a non-PI ROM.
You could try and switch on "Smooth Scrolling" in opera:config and see if that helps with the judderiness...

You should wait for 9.7 to be released

I had the exact same issue.
I downloaded Opera 9.5 BETA and it works a charm. The UI is slightly different (colours) to the one installed with 4.5 Touch-IT ROM but it works perfectly for me.
The only issue is that I have to launch it as a seperate program from my start menu. I cannot seem to make it my default browser (I have no idea how to do that!) and how to get the Internet tab "launch browser" to launch Opera 9.5 and not the standard Opera.
Also if you run the standard Opera installed with 4.5 Touch-IT ROM, close it and then try to run Opera 9.5 BETA, it only loads the standard Opera, not 9.5.
I have to turn my phone off and back on to solve this and start using 9.5 from my start menu.
Long winded but its how I cope..

Opera 9.5 b2 with Gears
I use the gears version now.
I had so many problems with logging into sites with the version that ships with the phone that I gave up. The stock version only plays lip-service to being able to use flash anyway so I don't feel I'm losing out.
Also, the caching and navigation to previous pages is way faster in the gears version of the browser. Occasionally it slows down and thinks about things for a little while, and it forcing back to the default keyboard every time you try to enter stuff into a text-box, but its a beta after all so what do you expect?!
Obviously the gears version doesn't have flash support but I can't say I've missed that, since the stock version wasn't that hot anyway ;o)

nkhangura said:
The only issue is that I have to launch it as a seperate program from my start menu. I cannot seem to make it my default browser (I have no idea how to do that!) and how to get the Internet tab "launch browser" to launch Opera 9.5 and not the standard Opera.
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If you paste the Opera9.exe, OperaL.exe and setup.dll files in to \Windows Manila will launch whatever version is there - for the second point II think the Manila files need ameding - haven't loooked yet though.

Opera Build 16070

found this new Opera build 16070 on another site, works fine with xperia
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XKXM86YU

it's extracted from the new blackstone rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501751

I have found that most Opera builds extracted from other HTC devices do not support the touchpad nor the volume control enabled zooming the stock-rom support by default.
Is this one any different?

Does this have the physical keyboard problem the previews build had ?
The one that only allows one letter entry at a time bug.

Can someone please point me to the latest opera build that supports the touchpad. Have tested many versions but none seem to support the touchpad so am forced to use an old build that has crap zoom function and text flow.

AF241 said:
Can someone please point me to the latest opera build that supports the touchpad. Have tested many versions but none seem to support the touchpad so am forced to use an old build that has crap zoom function and text flow.
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what about Opera site?

wow, this build just totally screwed up my phone.
It doesnt connect to any pages and I can't delete it. Now my weather and stocks tab cant connect to the internet anymore, as well as internet explorer.
What the hell is going on? When I try to remove the program, it says that Opera cannot be removed? wtf..?

chris28j said:
wow, this build just totally screwed up my phone.
It doesnt connect to any pages and I can't delete it. Now my weather and stocks tab cant connect to the internet anymore, as well as internet explorer.
What the hell is going on? When I try to remove the program, it says that Opera cannot be removed? wtf..?
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Did you try to remove program files in file manager?

Does anyone know when Opera Turbo is being released, it looks amazing Build 9.7 that is. This version seems faster but isn't optimized for the X1 the icons are too small for easy finger usage. opera turbo however looks like it has similar icons to the current version.