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New Opera Mobile Beta 9.5 (widgets enabled, new interface)

http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/

my opinion: very nice! the new interface is gorgeous, the semitransparent button in fullscreen especially is better. i will use it

my only complaint so far is the lack of useful widgets, other than that the new interface is very nice and I havent found any bugs yet.

I thought the interface was new also, but I was told this is the default Opera interface. We are just used to the interface that is buillt into our HTC devices.

I found the widgets really intrusive and annoying. Plus, Opera itself wouldn't rotate using the G-sensor. Still, it does looks awesome and was plenty fast.

Opera 9.5 versions thread
pedroo said:
http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/
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There is already a thread in general section where you can download all the versions available in an easy way
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
Please visit!

Ok im not sure about everyone else, but ive found a bit of a bug. If I load opera widgets, the interface is the new white one, but whenever I go to change the address, or open the SIP menu for that matter, the only one that works is the junky windows default keyboard. I have the newest fingerkeyb installed, as well as the diamond 2 keyboard, and whenever I select either it pops up, then switches back to the default keyboard.
If youre still following this, when I close the widgets manager and run opera 9.5 beta, it loads the white interface and they keyboard problem prevails. Now if I go into task manager, kill widgets, and load opera 9.5, it gives me the black interface, but the keyboard works....
Not sure if this is happening to anyone else, just wanted to report it.

old and new opera
Installed the new beta onto my internal storage...obviously the original is installed onto the phones memory....everytime I open opera, it just brings up the old version (and yes, I am clicking on the new icon...) The only way I can get the new opera to come up is by clicking on widgets first and bringing up opera through one of the widgets...which is really annoying cus I really like the new look!!
Should I just uninstall the new version and re-install it onto my phone storage? hopefully it will delete the old version? I'm not sure it will though and I dont want to clog up my phones memory!! either that or is there a way to uninstall the original opera from the phones storage and free up some space??!
Also, is it just me, or is the new opera slightly slower at loading the bigger content???
Cheers guys!!
PS-And yes herbalisation-New white interface opera auto gives me the compact keyboard when I normally have the full qwerty! it always seems to revert back to compact on the new opera!!?!! well annoying!! sounds like u have the same prob as me! did u install new opera on internal storage as well? I think this is the issue...we have two instances of opera now on our Diamonds!! can anyone resolve this little mystery?

Opera Mini 5 (beta)

I just installed this, and i must say its much nicer than the default that comes with the TP2. But theirs a few things.
1. I cannot find the program to launch it again after i close it. When i look under the drop down of programs running, all thats listed is "Java FX", which when clicked, does take me back to the browser. Is their not its own icon? Or is their a way to link the new one to the "internet" tab in Touch flo?
2. Is their any way to keep it from poping up its own software keyboard?
[edit] Ok.. someone posted this solution::: Disable Inline Editing in Settings\Advanced...
3. When i type in the address bar, it sometimes, double types letters. Very annoying.

never mind

beta 5 unfortunately has problems with switches from landscape to portrait and vice versa.
when i pull out the keyboard in oder to type something of course the screen rotates. In about 50% of all cases the browser UI does not follow the rotation, but the screen just turns white.
opera 4 has no problems with screen rotations.

Java
Posted this question in another thread too but seems more appropriate here:
I came from the Mogul to the TP2 so I'm not so sure how to install and run Opera Mini 5. I'd like to try it, but do you still need a Java applet launcher to run it? Or can you just run it on the TP2 if you put the .jad and/or .jar files somewhere? Thanks.

thelionelking said:
I'm not so sure how to install and run Opera Mini 5.
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Follow the instructions on the opera website:
"To try Opera Mini 5 beta, simply visit the address m.opera.com/next, using your phone’s default Web browser."
in case the OEM of your phone pre-installed a suboptimal java runtime environment (or even none) try this:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1170396#post1170396

mccune said:
Also check THIS thread about Opera mini 5 Beta.
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LOL, that link redirects us to this topic...
That said, I also have some minor problems with the new opera mini 5 beta. It look way more slick then the standard version of Opera, but there are a few things:
1. Just like Lyian stated, I as well hate the opera interface keyboard popping up and would really like to turn off this feature.
2. When I slide out my keyboard, the java applet notices this action and tells me to restart opera mini 5 :S (using JBlend, standard application deliverd on my tp2)
3. I would really like to have the possibility to make a shortcut to opera mini beta 5 in the start menu.
4. Everytime I restart the mini-browser, it asks me if it may connect to the network. I would really like to have the mini-browser never ask me this again.
Now I do remember that there were some solutions to my little problems mentioned above. With the old opera mini there were some tweaks that offered an solution to point 3 and 4, but I can't find them anywere. Does anybody know if they work as well for mini 5, and where I can find them? Does anybody have an solution to the other problems?
Thanks in advance,
b4kk3r

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There are multiple thread about Opera Mini 5 now so there is no stopping now anyway..

b4kk3r said:
2. When I slide out my keyboard, the java applet notices this action and tells me to restart opera mini 5 :S (using JBlend, standard application deliverd on my tp2)
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use jbed instead of JBlend. JBlend can not handle screen rotation at all (no matter whether the java application can or not).
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3. I would really like to have the possibility to make a shortcut to opera mini beta 5 in the start menu.
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use jbed and make a link in the startmenu folder to the jbed executable with the parameter "-run s0_".
b4kk3r said:
4. Everytime I restart the mini-browser, it asks me if it may connect to the network. I would really like to have the mini-browser never ask me this again.
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download the signed version of opera mobile

When I use the keyboard for typing an URL it results in a URL like xda-dddddevelopersssss.com or xdaaaaa-devvvvvelopers.commmm. I don't have any problems with the keyboard in other programs.

JBS2 said:
When I use the keyboard for typing an URL it results in a URL like xda-dddddevelopersssss.com or xdaaaaa-devvvvvelopers.commmm. I don't have any problems with the keyboard in other programs.
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*nods* same problem i stated above with the double typing.

b4kk3r said:
1. Just like Lyian stated, I as well hate the opera interface keyboard popping up and would really like to turn off this feature.
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Found the other post someone posted.
Disable Inline Editing in Settings\Advanced...

I just started playing with Mini 5, and it's freaking awesome with esmertec jbed. It's got the speed of Opera Mini, but it has some degree of flicking and it can copy/paste text! Mini 4.2 allowed you to copy and paste text when you switched to text entry mode, but you had to change the keyboard to the old full keyboard to utilize CTRL C and CTRL V. I can now highlight text on pages. Plus tabbed browsing! Remarkable.
I looked for a signed version of 5, but I couldn't find it (I was able to install the signed version for 4.2). Is there a trick I'm not aware of?
Mini 5 works for some of the forums I visit. I was unable to post in the Yuku forums with 4.2, and it would format oddly unless I was in mobile view. Screen transitions are a lot snappier.
I've never had any luck with screen orientation transitions with Opera Mini, so it's not a big deal for me. I'm used to using it exclusively in portrait mode anyway.
I think I've found myself a new browser. Anyone have any tips or tricks to share?
ETA: I'd love to get the flicking speed higher.

Does anyone know how to get the clock/time to show on the top border/frame? It's on Opera Mini 4.2 and it'd be cool to have it on this browser also. Thanks in advance !

New Skyfire 1.5 released

Just wanted to give folks a heads up that new skyfire was released and it finally supports higher resolution. Before I would hedge between skyfire and Opera/IE due to the resolution issues but preferring the speed and support for Flash, etc...now this will eliminate a decision as I believe I'll be using skyfire 100% of the time.
More finger friendly menus were added to. Surprises me after all these yrs MS has not been able to make many improvements to IE Mobile.
On a side note it sounds like Mobile Mozilla browser for WM should be available early 2010. Its initially targeted at Nokia phone with snapdragon processor but will than move to other platforms
Just thought some might be interested in the update for skyfire.

been using it all morning. Very much improved. Especially like the fact it supports higher res phones now.

Sorry for double post
One thing I noticed is it seems to use a lot more RAM...not thrilled about that. Maybe they can address this in a quick update. Anyone else experiencing significant ram usage by the new skyfire?

do you have the cab

1milenia said:
do you have the cab
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Since you asked so very nicely.. lol.. From my download to my device just now..
http://rapidshare.com/Skyfire-PPC_1.5.0.15020.cab

Thanks for the head's up. I've been hoping for this update for a while now.
It does look good. I'll probably still use Opera for most things though, and this for video.

Yeah thanks for the update, made it my default and overall I love it. Only thing that Opera 10 does better is the rendering, you know the checkerboard pattern that comes up when you scroll around. Opera renders it faster than Skyfire but with that improved I would have no issues with it.
Oh yeah that and no option for default full screen mode. You can switch to it but once you use the menu you have to select fullscreen again

I tried it but the opera that came with the TP2 is better.. The new version STILL doesnt rotate right UNLESS you open the keyboard and it still doesnt use the zoom bar

dahauss said:
I tried it but the opera that came with the TP2 is better.. The new version STILL doesnt rotate right UNLESS you open the keyboard and it still doesnt use the zoom bar
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Opera 10 couldn't uisefully use the zoom bar anyway. Version 9.5 allows variable degrees of zoom, but version 10 only has two levels - zoomed in, and zoomed out. There's nothing in between. So enabling the zoom bar wouldn't actually help.
If you're having problems with the rotation then just use G-Config.

dahauss said:
I tried it but the opera that came with the TP2 is better.. The new version STILL doesnt rotate right UNLESS you open the keyboard and it still doesnt use the zoom bar
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Once installed whether to storage or main, just do a soft rsest and it should auto rotate.
I am still messing around with it. I dont know if I should go ahead and make my default yet. The rendering speed is slower than the stocked Opera but I much favor the built in flash for web videos.

yummy
Loved skyfire from day 1, loving it more now that it supports better resolution. Rendering not as good as Opera, but that's expected for now, built-in flash works great still, but that's the advantage of cloud rendering. Typing works much smoother, wait time between skyfire sending data to server then back to your phone is much better. As far as mem usage goes, I think what they did with 1.5 is move some of the operations to your phone. Before with skyfire it was exclusively being processed on their servers. I think now things like putting in username and passwords are handled by the phone and sent in one swoop vs having to wait after you put in username, then wait after password and such. Also I've noticed that you can easily move from one field to the next. You used to have to re-tap each blank field, now it automatically moves the cursor and you can start filling it in immediately. Definitely a better browser. Maybe number one if they add tabs. I haven't made it default because of that. Unfortunately I'm out of the US so further testing isn't possible at the moment, but once I'm back I'll look at it more. So far the big face of is Opera tabs vs Skyfire built in flash.

Much, much more faster than Opera or IE. Of course the pages don't look as good but they're still good.

This new release inspired me to install Skyfire again -- I hadn't been including it in my "UC" configuration, so hadn't used it in a while as I flash new custom roms.
For me, the great advantage of Skyfire is how well it handles embedded video (and similar content) that other browsers don't handle well or at all. I stream live .wmv video from my backyard-birdfeeder-cam, and even PIE doesn't support this MS-format video -- but Skyfire does.

how can i set skyfire to be my default web browser from the Manilla interface?

eboy44 said:
how can i set skyfire to be my default web browser from the Manilla interface?
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What ROM and Manila version do you have?
I have the official 6.5 upgrade for US T-Mobile (Timor version) and it opens Skyfire automatically from the internet tab after using Skyfire's setting to make it default.
There is a Manila file you can edit that will change all the internet tab settings for the T-Mobile stock Manila version I know, because that was how I edited it then.
So I guess it depends on what you're running.

Silence
I was having a play with Skyfire 1.5 yestersday. I found it played the video component of Flash videos correctly, but that there's no sound! Has anyone else encountered and fixed this? I'm running the standard HTC version of the WM6.5 ROM.

Showtime7 said:
What ROM and Manila version do you have?
I have the official 6.5 upgrade for US T-Mobile (Timor version) and it opens Skyfire automatically from the internet tab after using Skyfire's setting to make it default.
There is a Manila file you can edit that will change all the internet tab settings for the T-Mobile stock Manila version I know, because that was how I edited it then.
So I guess it depends on what you're running.
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the rom i have is the deepshining rom...nevermind i went and reset it to be the default and it just worked...thanks anyways

Shasarak said:
I was having a play with Skyfire 1.5 yestersday. I found it played the video component of Flash videos correctly, but that there's no sound! Has anyone else encountered and fixed this? I'm running the standard HTC version of the WM6.5 ROM.
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Try soft reset and re-launch, that worked for me.

I use Skyfire in Poland but every search results is showing in Netherlands Google

Shasarak said:
I was having a play with Skyfire 1.5 yestersday. I found it played the video component of Flash videos correctly, but that there's no sound! Has anyone else encountered and fixed this? I'm running the standard HTC version of the WM6.5 ROM.
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It might also help to know which site's flash videos gave you the issue. Not all implementations are created equal.
I notice, on a sort of related note, that on thewb.com, sometimes the video and audio get out of sync. I'm not sure if this is a general skyfire thing or not, but I've always found thewb's flash player to be a little quirky, so I plan to test some other sites this weekend.
maggreg said:
I use Skyfire in Poland but every search results is showing in Netherlands Google
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Skyfire has a server side and a client side--the browser itself doesn't actually support flash, the server grabs the content, converts it to something skyfire client friendly, and then transmits it to you. Google might be detecting where your skyfire server is instead of where you are.

best opera release for rhodium?

hey guys i've browsed through many opera topics in the rhodium section and i was wondering if you guys could give me your opinions on which version you like the most. here is mine:
Opera 9.5
i havent tested this, but if this is the stock one on the att tilt2, it was only ok if i remember correctly, standard
Opera 9.7
i cant find the turbo setting on the version that i have, otherwise from that, this is my favorite version. its fast and theres no pop up sip. a slight upgrade from 9.5 in terms of extra functions. no rotation from landscape back to portrait (but i have a button assigned to rotate screen) layout is so-so
sip button stays on bottom sometimes in landscape, and bookmarks doesnt work for me...
edit: found the turbo setting on opera:config, dont know if i really need it though (since i have hspda)
Opera 10
POP UP SIP ON LANDSCAPE, i cant stand it, it lags my phone too when it has to pop up the keyboard, otherwise, solid. if i use nullkb then when i use portrait view i have to change the keyboard again, which is very annoying. the new layout is awesome, very nice
Opera Mini 5
CONSTANT SIP whenever u press a box. no matter what orientation, landscape or portrait. not only that, but inputting numbers on landscape is annoying on the tilt 2. and you cant pick your keyboard
please submit your input for the rhodium guys!

I personally like the Opera Mobile 9.7 beta 35432 VGA/WVGA built into the EnergyROM I'm running. I liked it so much, I actually had to install it to a different ROM I tried because I didn't like the built-in Opera 10b2. We may have different opinions, so don't get mad at me!

hey thanks for the response my bay area friend, i'll give it a try
i figured to run the latest release of opera 9.7, so i havent really tested the previous versions. i'll give it a go though, thanks!

sumflipnol said:
I personally like the Opera Mobile 9.7 beta 35432 VGA/WVGA built into the EnergyROM I'm running. I liked it so much, I actually had to install it to a different ROM I tried because I didn't like the built-in Opera 10b2. We may have different opinions, so don't get mad at me!
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Same build here, working flawlessly

Another one for 9.7 35432 build, the back button did it for me.

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xredjokerx said:
hey guys i've browsed through many opera topics in the rhodium section and i was wondering if you guys could give me your opinions on which version you like the most. here is mine:
Opera 9.5
i havent tested this, but if this is the stock one on the att tilt2, it was only ok if i remember correctly, standard
Opera 9.7
i cant find the turbo setting on the version that i have, otherwise from that, this is my favorite version. its fast and theres no pop up sip. a slight upgrade from 9.5 in terms of extra functions. no rotation from landscape back to portrait (but i have a button assigned to rotate screen) layout is so-so
sip button stays on bottom sometimes in landscape, and bookmarks doesnt work for me...
edit: found the turbo setting on opera:config, dont know if i really need it though (since i have hspda)
Opera 10
POP UP SIP ON LANDSCAPE, i cant stand it, it lags my phone too when it has to pop up the keyboard, otherwise, solid. if i use nullkb then when i use portrait view i have to change the keyboard again, which is very annoying. the new layout is awesome, very nice
Opera Mini 5
CONSTANT SIP whenever u press a box. no matter what orientation, landscape or portrait. not only that, but inputting numbers on landscape is annoying on the tilt 2. and you cant pick your keyboard
please submit your input for the rhodium guys!
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For me Opera 10beta 2 is the best for my Rhodium!
Smooth, fast and nice
But have a look here please:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502

My favorite is Opera Mini 4.2. I like the button control and the way pushing up and down jumps to links easily. Also right moves down a page and left moves up a page. I hardly ever touch the screen after remapping buttons with Keyboard Controller application. I only use Opera Mobile once in a while but that works fairly well with remapped buttons in version 9.5. Opera mini 5 beta doesn't work as well with buttons.

orb3000 said:
For me Opera 10beta 2 is the best for my Rhodium!
Smooth, fast and nice
But have a look here please:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502
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i've already read that post over and over, and clicked multiple links, i just wanted to know which version rhodium users preferred and why

after some testing:
engadget website loading test: (reset cookies, hist, even RAM)
opera 9.7 35432 - 1.02m
opera 9.7 35432 T - 49s
opera 10 b2 - 1.28m
opera 10 b2 T - 1.05m
so im deducting that opera 9.7 is faster... im just debating on which build, since they're all so close in version numbers... but for now im sticking with 35432
last but not least. opera mini 5b2 is the best browser by far. interface, and dl times. amazing haha

Opera Browser reflow is not consistent

Has anyone noticed how the Opera browser provided with the HD2 doesn'r reflow text correctly when you zoom in or out on text?
For example go to the bbc.com website and find an article on the main page. Then zoom in. It reflows fine. However if you then go into the actual story from the front page reflow to keep all the cahcracters on the screen rather than you neededing to scoll left to right stops working. Then when you go back to the main page the reflow is still not working?
I have tried this on multiple sites and get the same result ! I also tried another HD2 and the same thing happens.
The iphone and Safari does this without fault. Am I missing something that I need to set or is my experience different to everyone else?
I don't want to use skyfire because it comes with different limitations. Is the later version of Opera (v.10) any better in this respect?
I also notice that there isn't a Opera Mobile 10 for the HD2 !? Anyone know where I can get this?

alecs said:
Has anyone noticed how the Opera browser provided with the HD2 doesn'r reflow text correctly when you zoom in or out on text?
For example go to the bbc.com website and find an article on the main page. Then zoom in. It reflows fine. However if you then go into the actual story from the front page reflow to keep all the cahcracters on the screen rather than you neededing to scoll left to right stops working. Then when you go back to the main page the reflow is still not working?
I have tried this on multiple sites and get the same result ! I also tried another HD2 and the same thing happens.
The iphone and Safari does this without fault. Am I missing something that I need to set or is my experience different to everyone else?
I don't want to use skyfire because it comes with different limitations. Is the later version of Opera (v.10) any better in this respect?
I also notice that there isn't a Opera Mobile 10 for the HD2 !? Anyone know where I can get this?
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Here is Opera 10 for the HD2. I don't have a problem with reflow on my device, but then again there are something like 10+ versions of Opera 9.7 floating about.
Have a look here for all the different Opera 9.7 versions, see which works best for you.
*Edit* I use version 35964, it seems to work fine for me.

Its dependant on which build your using......
the one on the t mobile stock rom was perfect.....
I just tried a cleanex rom and opera was not as slick as I was used to....
Im off to try an energy rom and see what thats like.......

Thanks for the information. I have a standard HTC rom and the phone is from the UK.
ROM version 1.66.405.2
Radio version 2.06.51.07
Opera Mobile version 9.7 Build 35627
I'll try downloading the latest version of Opera 10. Thanks.
Just one last thing. I updated my version of Opera so it could play flash with the Flash. Will this install put in an additional version of opera or overwrite the current one?
Does this version natively support Flash?

alecs said:
Just one last thing. I updated my version of Opera so it could play flash with the Flash. Will this install put in an additional version of opera or overwrite the current one?
Does this version natively support Flash?
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It will overwrite the version you have installed. I should think it plays flash, I am not certain as I don't use flash on my HD2 (I assume you mean 9.7), Opera 10 supports it natively for sure.

Thanks for the answers, I have just loaded version 10. Forgive the noob questions....
OMG, It doesn't have pinch to zoom !!!!!!!!!!! Reflow doesn't work because it is set to a double tap zoom and the text seems to left justify too much so the text is cut in half and you have to scroll over to the left! And the Zoom is way to high. I know you can set it to certain zoom levels but its one zoom in and one zoom out. Thats not very good in my book.
Also the settings available seem far less than there were with 9.7.
Also is there any way to change the default search engine from google?
Lastly, is there any way to set vibrate to happen when you click on a link.
I also went to youtube and it doesn't seem to play flash
Not sure I think version 10 is an improvement at the moment. Is there a thread somwhere that talks about opera 10 on xda?

Its pure personal preference, I tried 10 and didnt like it, mainly due to pinch to zoom and reflow......... the flash is tempremental... I got youtube working but other flash content didnt........
Theres no harm in having both 10 and 9.7........
In this case you can have your cake and eat it..........
For flash I'd reccomend skyfire........its quite slow and the ui is ugly and dated but it works 95% of the time as far as flash is concerned......... again though its all down to personal preference...........

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