About to buy a new Magic - myTouch 3G, Magic General

OK guys, time has come to upgrade my phone. currently I have a rather old Hermes, pretty reliable BTW, but I'm thinking about jumping board to Android. Of all the devices I have been watching the Magic is the one that provides more bang for the buck, or so I think.
The point is, do you guys have any advise before I fly by fleebay to plung the cash??? any noticeable difference between T-Mobile and HTC versions, besides RAM??? What is the meaning of life???
Thanks in advance.

I almost forgot... 3G should be on the 900 Mhz. band... Which version has it???

I'm uncertain bout HTC's direct model ,but a MyTouch 3G (be it v1, Limited Edition Fender, and v1.2 [the two latter have more ram than the v1]) supports the following:
Cellular-Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS1700, UMTS2100
Cellular-Data: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA

Since, your phone carrier is Orange, I would think that you would be looking for the HTC Magic, which is the one with more RAM, but then again I don't know the exact radio bands for carriers outside the US.

Related

Rogers Magic On Tmobile??

i just purchased a rogers magic due to the 288Mb ram, so that i could smoothly run the hero rom. However i have tmobile and after doing some research it seems that i wont be able to use 3g because of the frequencies.
So can anyone comfirm if this is true as i need or rather want 3g to work on my rogers which is yet to arrive..
Rogers Magic supports.
GSM/GPRS/EDGE Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA/UMTS Dual-Band: 850/1900 MHz
So I don't think so, I believe T-mo only supports 1700.
Clinton
guess i will have to sell it! as i need to have 3g working. But one more thing is is ther any magic phone out there that has the 288mb ram and supports tmobile 3g networks????
T-Mobile USA seems to be the only major carrier that I can find that uses a hybrid 1700/2100 HSPA setup. So, unfortunately, I highly doubt you will find one. Only way I can see it happening is disassembling two units and swapping radios.

can frequencies be flashed? Is that what radio roms are?

Sorry if newbie question. Got HTC tmobile dash 3g wanna flash to use on at&t. Friend says HTC indicated the tmobile dash 3g wouldnt work on at&t 3g frequency of 850MHZ. Seen some info on flashing the radio? Does that mean i could flash the phone so it would work on 850MHZ or is it a hardware limitation in the phone?
Thanks
Matt
Unfortunately no. The radios are in the hardware/firmware. Supposedly all the Maple's have all the bands, just a matter of finding a way to unlock them. Flashing the radio partitions will not do it either. Tough to say why HTC went through such hassle to localize their devices. The only Maple's that will work in USA on AT&T is MAPL120 (HTC Maple S522) and MAPL130 (HTC Maple S523). Dash3G will only do GPRS/EDGE.
HTC Mapl100 frequencies available?
Thanks for responding ookba. I guess i will try to email HTC and ask them if the Mapl100 has the bands just like the Mapl120. If so, then they probably locked out certain bands at tmobiles request. Which is bs in my opinion. Does tmobile think anyone will leave a carrier just cause of a certain phone with all the phone competition out there? I stay with a carrier cause of pricing and customer service, not phones. If anyone knows about the bands on the Mapl100 please let us know.
Thanks
Dash3G: GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS1700, UMTS2100
Snap S521: GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100
Snap S522: GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
Snap S523: GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS2100
Their way of making more $ in the various worldwide markets. Let me know what HTC says if you call them.

HTC HD2 US with T-Mobile USA???

Pardon my ignorance but isn't the US version of this device only UMTS 850/1900? If so how is it that T-Mobile (which I understand uses UMTS 1700/2100) will sale this device subsidized? What am I missing?
Jw where did u get that information, it might be true but that wouldn't make any sense. I definitely think it will support 3g, or similar to the Nexus1 that only supports T-mobile 3g.
From PDADB.NET
This is the site where I found the specifications for HTC HD2 US: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
Umm I think that site is misleading b/c it has 2 differently spec'd HD2s
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2059&c=t-mobile_htc_touch_hd2_htc_leo
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS2100
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2062&c=htc_hd2_us_htc_leo
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900
Maybe that answers your question?
There are two different versions
The US verion is named HTC HD2 US and the Eropean version HTC HD2. Basically the only difference is that the UMTS frequencies are different in the two devices.
First off, PDAdb is trash. TRASH.
The HD2 US is referring to the TMOBILE USA version which runs on 1700/2100 UMTS. There's no such HD2 having 850/1900 UMTS (AFAIK). The closest you'll come to having AT&T 3G is the Telstra version (there's thread is on the front page) which has 850/2100.

T8585 for Telus 3G in canada - HELP PLEASE

I can't seem to find a clear answer...
Okay, so I am a little confused. I am looking at buying a T8585 for use on Telus' new GSM, HSPA network. PDADB says that the LEO 100 or T8585 runs:
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS210
and Telus indicates that their 3G network Runs on 1900/850 MHz frequency bands.
I guess I am coming across as a Noob - I just don't want to drop 600 bucks for something that isn't going to work.
Can somebody who knows more about this then me tell me if the T8585 will work with Telus with both voice and 3G connectivity?
Any help would be VERY MUCH appreciated.
Somebody told me that I need the T9193 (which has better specs) but it seems to me that the stats would make it incompatible.
It will not. You will need a T9193. See the T9193 reference thread for more information. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633404
Do note however, that AFAIK Telus does not have a 'fallback' GSM/EDGE network. It's 3G or nothing.
That being said, I believe there might be some roaming agreements with Rogers. As in, if 3G Telus coverage is not available, you may be able to hop on the Rogers network without issue. I would call them and ask! (and let me know what you find.)
Zeusus said:
I can't seem to find a clear answer...
Okay, so I am a little confused. I am looking at buying a T8585 for use on Telus' new GSM, HSPA network. PDADB says that the LEO 100 or T8585 runs:
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS900, UMTS210
and Telus indicates that their 3G network Runs on 1900/850 MHz frequency bands.
I guess I am coming across as a Noob - I just don't want to drop 600 bucks for something that isn't going to work.
Can somebody who knows more about this then me tell me if the T8585 will work with Telus with both voice and 3G connectivity?
Any help would be VERY MUCH appreciated.
Somebody told me that I need the T9193 (which has better specs) but it seems to me that the stats would make it incompatible.
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A bit over a month ago I was in your exact situation. I wanted an HTC HD2, I'm on TELUS, and I didn't know what this stuff meant.
"3G" is basically synonymous with "UMTS". "GSM" is a 2G technology, alongside "CDMA".
TELUS uses UMTS (with HSPA+) 850/1900, as well as CDMA. The T8585 Leo supports Quad-Band GSM (but TELUS has no GSM) and UMTS 900/2100.
Obviously therefore the T8585 Leo and TELUS have no frequencies in common, and therefore not only will you not get 3G coverage with the T8585 Leo from TELUS, you won't get any coverage period.
The T9193 Leo however, has a difference UMTS frequency: 850 instead of 900. This allows the T9193 Leo to get 3G coverage from TELUS. As far as I've been able to tell -- in Victoria, BC -- the 3G coverage with just 850mhz is just as good as with both 850/1900, and there are no "holes" in the 850 coverage. According to a TELUS rep I spoke with, all their towers project 850 and 1900, so your coverage at 850 should be complete.

Help with Bands

I've decided to get an HD2, but I do not know if I should get the T8585 or T9193. I understand that they have different bands, but is there any other difference (aussie models)?
I don't know anything about the different bands. Currently I am just using a virgin prepaid sim. I'm not interested in a contract at the moment, so I'll likely continue with that. I am in Cairns, Australia.
Given this information, can anyone help me decide what model would be best for me?
bumpitty bump
If I'm not mistaken,
T9 is the only model that would give you 3g.
I think you are right. That the T9193 is the only one that would get true 3g speeds (on NextG). But given that I am not with Telstra, can I get NextG anyway?
Will the virgin sim work in the phone?
Thanks.
if you stay on virgin, get the T8585. (Yes the sim should work in the phone, assuming it isn't sim locked.)
virgin uses the optus network, which uses the bands
gsm
900/1800 for voice, gprs and edge
and
2100/900 for dual band high speed.
The 8585 has
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900,
UMTS900, UMTS2100
so its a full match
The 9193 however has 850/2100 UMTS so you would only get a single band high speed connection on the 2100.

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