I know this has been discussed numerous times prior to this handset being released, and that HTC messaging has been cause various amounts of lag when the sms count is more then 20+ for one contact.
Im thinking everyone like me thought this issue would be fixed when the HD2 came out, with its 'power'. But I guess it had nothing to do with how powerful a processor you needed, but good programming, and ram allocation.
I've disabled htc sense, and used the default windows mobile 6.5 interface, but this still uses htc messaging.
So I tried to disable htc messaging using that tweak posted previously. It didn't work. When I clicked on a message in the message tab, nothing happened.
Has anyone with a hd2 emailed htc about this issue? I can't believe we still have this problem.
same here. would really like to go back to native wm threaded messages without disabling the Sense itself which is great..
HTC messaging disable
just google zenyee disable messaging and you will find what you are looking for....i had the same problem...i keep over 400 msgs in my inbox and it just slowed down like crazy...used the cab file on the site and its working perfectly...both sense and standard 6.5 messaging.
check it out.
kushalc said:
just google zenyee disable messaging and you will find what you are looking for....i had the same problem...i keep over 400 msgs in my inbox and it just slowed down like crazy...used the cab file on the site and its working perfectly...both sense and standard 6.5 messaging.
check it out.
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From my first post, I have already tried to use this cab, and it didnt work.
htc should just put a limit to the number of SMS messages to be shown when you open a contact's sms page. For example 20 messages shown immediately and if/when you need to read past messages, you just tap on a "show more messages" button on top of the sms list.. that should work wonderfully..
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
Eraser85 said:
htc should just put a limit to the number of SMS messages to be shown when you open a contact's sms page. For example 20 messages shown immediately and if/when you need to read past messages, you just tap on a "show more messages" button on top of the sms list.. that should work wonderfully..
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now this should work, right? like on the iphone... the old messages will simply be archived. is there any tweak to do that?
Sounds like it would be an awesome idea. Or just port manila's 2.1 htc messaging.
Otherwise, the quick fix, all you do is push the keyboard logo, then you can compose a text right away.
Beats disabling htc messaging, and going back to the ugly default windows messaging.
blutz said:
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
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I've tried both of these and neither work for me. I'd love to just have the normal WM SMS editor back!! (and no threading either)
I'd also love to get the damn album saving to \Storage Card\My Documents\My Pictures as well... another #htcfail !!
Disable HTC Messaging on HD2
The Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 cab works as it says it would, ie default back to MS messaging system & the HTC messaging is no mas.
However, when tapping on a message from the text tab in sence, it does nothing (as it said it would), but there has to be a registry tweak to over come this.
Also, MMS is also no mas! This is a problem for me. I have installed, Arcsoftmms 5.0.31.7.us.cab with not luck. MMS messages go no where.
I have tried Arcsoft MMS composer WWE, also with no luck. This creates the MMS tab under menu/new/ sms or mms. It gives the old Windows CE look of MMS.
Voice command actually reads incoming text messages (which is a plus)
The TellMe app actually sends a dictated text (also a plus) with the Zenyee cab installed.
The lack of MMS is a no deal for me.
So, I recall my HTC HD days with the MIRI ROMS and the Energy ROMS. Miri (as well as Xanny Tech ROMS) roms had an option of ROMS without HTC messaging. These ROMs had the old 2.1 HTC Messaging (everything else M2.5) & WM messaging combined & MMS was present. The energy ROMS actually had both WM & the new HTC messaging enabled (with MMS).
My questions are: is there something I'm missing with this Zenyee cab and enabling MMS? Can I have both HTC messaging & WM messaging with MMS? I would be satisfied with this stock ROM (For now) if answered.
Please Help,
Todd
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The Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 cab works as it says it would, ie default back to MS messaging system & the HTC messaging is no mas.
However, when tapping on a message from the text tab in sence, it does nothing (as it said it would), but there has to be a registry tweak to over come this.
Also, MMS is also no mas! This is a problem for me. I have installed, Arcsoftmms 5.0.31.7.us.cab with not luck. MMS messages go no where.
I have tried Arcsoft MMS composer WWE, also with no luck. This creates the MMS tab under menu/new/ sms or mms. It gives the old Windows CE look of MMS.
Voice command actually reads incoming text messages (which is a plus)
The TellMe app actually sends a dictated text (also a plus) with the Zenyee cab installed.
The lack of MMS is a no deal for me.
So, I recall my HTC HD days with the MIRI ROMS and the Energy ROMS. Miri (as well as Xanny Tech ROMS) roms had an option of ROMS without HTC messaging. These ROMs had the old 2.1 HTC Messaging (everything else M2.5) & WM messaging combined & MMS was present. The energy ROMS actually had both WM & the new HTC messaging enabled (with MMS).
My questions are: is there something I'm missing with this Zenyee cab and enabling MMS? Can I have both HTC messaging & WM messaging with MMS? I would be satisfied with this stock ROM (For now) if answered.
Please Help,
Todd
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me too
i would ask how i can delete for ever htc messaging and back to wm sms/mms
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1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
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My bad, new messages are being threaded from the installation time and onward. I'm happy with this fix.
blutz said:
My bad, new messages are being threaded from the installation time and onward. I'm happy with this fix.
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Do you not have a problem with MMS sending and receiving with this cab installed? Who is your carrier?
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Do you not have a problem with MMS sending and receiving with this cab installed? Who is your carrier?
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I usually post on ppcgeeks but while doing a search, it led me hear and thought to chime in. The standard fix for SMS/MMS issues is to install Zenyees cab to disable messaging, reset, install Picturemail removal cab, reset, and install Arcsoft cab for your carrier. Ever since the 2.5 cooked roms have come out, this has always fixed the sms/mms problems. Tap "all messages" from the messaging screen and you should be good to go. if have previous sms from backup data, it may not all thread but any new messages from here on should be threaded.
hope that helps.
hi any print shot for the final look of how the thread look like?
Anyone having issues with installing the Remove PictureMail & Arcsoft.cab? For some reason it wont install the 12kb
i cant install and disable everything still cannot install Remove PictureMail & Arcsoft.cab
christian.a said:
I usually post on ppcgeeks but while doing a search, it led me hear and thought to chime in. The standard fix for SMS/MMS issues is to install Zenyees cab to disable messaging, reset, install Picturemail removal cab, reset, and install Arcsoft cab for your carrier. Ever since the 2.5 cooked roms have come out, this has always fixed the sms/mms problems. Tap "all messages" from the messaging screen and you should be good to go. if have previous sms from backup data, it may not all thread but any new messages from here on should be threaded.
hope that helps.
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The Arcsoft cab did not work for me on the HD2. it just does not play well with the inbox.
If anyone got this to work, please let us know how
I cannot get HTC Messaging disabled using the 1.2 cab, no matter what the MessagingService.dll seems to load on startup regardless of whether it's entry in HKLM\services\MSG is removed or renamed manually or with the cab. And when I go into the Windows folder to try and rename the file, it tells me I can't as it's loaded into Rom.
I'm on 1.48, could someone point out a fix for this please?
no helper???
There's an SMS Hotfix on the HTC site - maybe it helps?
hello
how can we Disable all htc all people and activate WM OEM contact?
I applied zenyee SMS patch to disable htc messaging but now everywhere that i select send text message it does nothing since htc all people replaced the WM OEM messaging shortcuts, so if it is disabled everything relates to original Windows contacts and it will be ok!
when i disable manila everything works fine!
thanks for helping
no body
+1
Looks like HTC messaging is deeply integraded with manilla. Or developers don't care about removing this stuff completly since HTC Messaging is simply slow.
xborfi said:
hello
how can we Disable all htc all people and activate WM OEM contact?
I applied zenyee SMS patch to disable htc messaging but now everywhere that i select send text message it does nothing since htc all people replaced the WM OEM messaging shortcuts, so if it is disabled everything relates to original Windows contacts and it will be ok!
when i disable manila everything works fine!
thanks for helping
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first you have not identified what ROM you are using. so difficult to help you.
it not depends on ROM. HTC messaging is slow and buggy on all roms.
But try to help with 6.5.1 ROM + Manilla 2.5
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first you have not identified what ROM you are using. so difficult to help you.
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well i tried almost all roms here! but when htc messaging have more than 20 msg it is going to slow the device , it is not that HD is slow or weak , if you look on LEO forum you see people have problem already! so htc messaging is buggy and it is useless, but when I disable it using zenyee patch all the shourtcuts in ex. dialer all people contacts that have send text mesasage function also broken. so all people shouyld be disabled and WM OEM contact should handle the things! thats why i want to disable all people! -- I think it has something to do with registry! --
no body know the solution? I just want to disable HTC People on manila 2.5 and everywhere in windows so it is like it was never there!
no one has found a solution?
pls....
thank you..
bump for a solution!
I'm with you.
remove HTC messaging completly out from the system.
pleease
+1 here. "Send Message" just doesn't work anymore..
+1 no manila sms and no manila contacts
+1.
manila integration is slow and crashes.
Hi I have got Blackstone with Mainilla and WM 6.5 and it works very slow - there are 'lags' even in writing SMS. What's wrong - maybe there are some application which could fix my problem ?
Thanks
Which ROM did you flash?
Also, HTC Messaging gets very slow the more messages you have. There's a patch that disables HTC Messaging so you can use the good old Outlook Messaging.
Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging v1.2
I upgraded from iphone to HTC HD2 and I text message alot so is there any way of getting sms on htc hd2 same like iphone?
do you mean an option like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=616348.
i'm still looking for one with no luck yet
yeah something like that similar to iphone sms so its much easier to text... and is there any way to install that on htc hd2 ?
Hi
I generally use Microsoft Myphone and Sprite Backup and sometimes PIM Backup for backups. I have had UK Vodafone HTC windows mobile phones for some years.
I have been trying to restore data from the original Touch Pro to the HD2 and Touch Pro 2. After restoring I had some problems with the Call History on the Touch Pro 2. This was solved after I used Myphone instead of Sprite Backup for the backup and restore.
There seems to be much worse problems transferring data to the HD2:
1. I have quite a large archive of SMS messages on the Vodafone Touch Pro. About 2.5K in total. I have tried restoring the messages to the HD2 using Sprite and Myphone. At the bottom of HTC Sense threaded message there is an area for composing a new message. In the compose message area you see text from an old message. Before you can send a message you have to delete the text in the compose area. I have installed the latest SMS update. Did not help with this particular issue. I think the SMS update helped with some of the other SMS issues. These messages seem to have restored fine on the Touch Pro 2.
2. A more minor problem is that there are some strange characters in the notes sections in the restored contacts on the HD2. Looking at the same contacts on the Myphone site there appears to be no problems with these contacts. Again, the contacts seem to have restored fine on the HD2. Overall, even though it is very slow it seems to be better to restore using Myphone rather than Sprite.
I have tried hard reset on the HD2 a number of times. I think I have all the latest updates that are relevant. I have even had a replacement phone. I still have this strange SMS problem. I suspect that the problem is due to HTC Sense compatibility issues. The HTC Touch Pro WM6.1 has HTC TouchFLO 3D.
BTW, I have tried PIM Backup as well. However, it does not appear to work properly on the Vodafone Touch Pro for some reason.
Does anybody have any ideas on this? I have quite a bit of experience of Windows Mobile phones. I have also had the Vodafone version of the the HTC Universal and Tytn II.
All the best.
Sanwar
see this thread by yours truly
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=693831
executive summary: if you are coming from another WM phone to the HD2 and you have a ton of messages (like myself) and would like to restore them and continue building your repository of messages on a STOCK HD2, then you'll run into issues as you described.
moreover, the HTC messaging client shipped with STOCK HD2s is rubbish when it comes to handling more than a few sms messages stored per contact.
the regular windows mobile sms client (that you and i are used to from our kaisers and pre-HD2 devices) is great! its so good that the top chefs (such as NRGZ of the "energy" ROM series) has completely done away with the HTC messaging client. if you read my thread, you will also notice that restoring to the HD2 with the HTC messaging client has repercussions and adverse impacts on your ability to take your messages repository to OTHER WM phones if you choose to do so later on.
SMS Problems with HD2
Hi
Thanks for your response. I have already seen your thread on this issue which was very useful.
It seems that the only solution is to use WM6.5 for SMS instead of HTC Sense on the HD2. I will use the Touch Pro 2 for work. The HD2 will be used when I need a phone with a bigger screen, etc. The Touch Pro 2 processor is slower. However it has a keyboard and is overall better for business use. A good alternative to a keyboard does not exist!
Vodafone has been quite helpful in providing replacement phones. However neither Vodafone nor HTC seem to want to admit that there is a problem with the HD2.
Thanks.
Sanwar
cool! if your primary phone is going to remain the TP2, then i strongly suggest playing around with a custom ROM on your HD2 (i recommend NRGZ's energy ROM).
this way, you will have a speedy and clean HD2 with properly integrated NATIVE messaging client and all of its benefits. play around with it and maybe you'll find you can shift to the HD2 for regular/business use. i came from a tytn2 (kaiser) after 2 years of *****in' use and it took me a while to get used to the lack of a hardware keyboard on the HD2. that said, i am now completely accustomed to the HD2's onscreen keyboard and i can type nearly as fast and nearly as accurately on it now as i could on the kaiser's hardware keyboard. still, a hardware keyboard is a hardware keyboard and i can't argue with that!
long story short, if messaging and lack of hardware keyboard is all that stands in your way of 100% HD2 use, then a custom ROM should kill the messaging issue completely and some practice with the on screen keyboard will alleviate the keyboard issues. good luck!