I know this has been discussed numerous times prior to this handset being released, and that HTC messaging has been cause various amounts of lag when the sms count is more then 20+ for one contact.
Im thinking everyone like me thought this issue would be fixed when the HD2 came out, with its 'power'. But I guess it had nothing to do with how powerful a processor you needed, but good programming, and ram allocation.
I've disabled htc sense, and used the default windows mobile 6.5 interface, but this still uses htc messaging.
So I tried to disable htc messaging using that tweak posted previously. It didn't work. When I clicked on a message in the message tab, nothing happened.
Has anyone with a hd2 emailed htc about this issue? I can't believe we still have this problem.
same here. would really like to go back to native wm threaded messages without disabling the Sense itself which is great..
HTC messaging disable
just google zenyee disable messaging and you will find what you are looking for....i had the same problem...i keep over 400 msgs in my inbox and it just slowed down like crazy...used the cab file on the site and its working perfectly...both sense and standard 6.5 messaging.
check it out.
kushalc said:
just google zenyee disable messaging and you will find what you are looking for....i had the same problem...i keep over 400 msgs in my inbox and it just slowed down like crazy...used the cab file on the site and its working perfectly...both sense and standard 6.5 messaging.
check it out.
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From my first post, I have already tried to use this cab, and it didnt work.
htc should just put a limit to the number of SMS messages to be shown when you open a contact's sms page. For example 20 messages shown immediately and if/when you need to read past messages, you just tap on a "show more messages" button on top of the sms list.. that should work wonderfully..
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
Eraser85 said:
htc should just put a limit to the number of SMS messages to be shown when you open a contact's sms page. For example 20 messages shown immediately and if/when you need to read past messages, you just tap on a "show more messages" button on top of the sms list.. that should work wonderfully..
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now this should work, right? like on the iphone... the old messages will simply be archived. is there any tweak to do that?
Sounds like it would be an awesome idea. Or just port manila's 2.1 htc messaging.
Otherwise, the quick fix, all you do is push the keyboard logo, then you can compose a text right away.
Beats disabling htc messaging, and going back to the ugly default windows messaging.
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1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
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I've tried both of these and neither work for me. I'd love to just have the normal WM SMS editor back!! (and no threading either)
I'd also love to get the damn album saving to \Storage Card\My Documents\My Pictures as well... another #htcfail !!
Disable HTC Messaging on HD2
The Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 cab works as it says it would, ie default back to MS messaging system & the HTC messaging is no mas.
However, when tapping on a message from the text tab in sence, it does nothing (as it said it would), but there has to be a registry tweak to over come this.
Also, MMS is also no mas! This is a problem for me. I have installed, Arcsoftmms 5.0.31.7.us.cab with not luck. MMS messages go no where.
I have tried Arcsoft MMS composer WWE, also with no luck. This creates the MMS tab under menu/new/ sms or mms. It gives the old Windows CE look of MMS.
Voice command actually reads incoming text messages (which is a plus)
The TellMe app actually sends a dictated text (also a plus) with the Zenyee cab installed.
The lack of MMS is a no deal for me.
So, I recall my HTC HD days with the MIRI ROMS and the Energy ROMS. Miri (as well as Xanny Tech ROMS) roms had an option of ROMS without HTC messaging. These ROMs had the old 2.1 HTC Messaging (everything else M2.5) & WM messaging combined & MMS was present. The energy ROMS actually had both WM & the new HTC messaging enabled (with MMS).
My questions are: is there something I'm missing with this Zenyee cab and enabling MMS? Can I have both HTC messaging & WM messaging with MMS? I would be satisfied with this stock ROM (For now) if answered.
Please Help,
Todd
[email protected] said:
The Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 cab works as it says it would, ie default back to MS messaging system & the HTC messaging is no mas.
However, when tapping on a message from the text tab in sence, it does nothing (as it said it would), but there has to be a registry tweak to over come this.
Also, MMS is also no mas! This is a problem for me. I have installed, Arcsoftmms 5.0.31.7.us.cab with not luck. MMS messages go no where.
I have tried Arcsoft MMS composer WWE, also with no luck. This creates the MMS tab under menu/new/ sms or mms. It gives the old Windows CE look of MMS.
Voice command actually reads incoming text messages (which is a plus)
The TellMe app actually sends a dictated text (also a plus) with the Zenyee cab installed.
The lack of MMS is a no deal for me.
So, I recall my HTC HD days with the MIRI ROMS and the Energy ROMS. Miri (as well as Xanny Tech ROMS) roms had an option of ROMS without HTC messaging. These ROMs had the old 2.1 HTC Messaging (everything else M2.5) & WM messaging combined & MMS was present. The energy ROMS actually had both WM & the new HTC messaging enabled (with MMS).
My questions are: is there something I'm missing with this Zenyee cab and enabling MMS? Can I have both HTC messaging & WM messaging with MMS? I would be satisfied with this stock ROM (For now) if answered.
Please Help,
Todd
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me too
i would ask how i can delete for ever htc messaging and back to wm sms/mms
blutz said:
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
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My bad, new messages are being threaded from the installation time and onward. I'm happy with this fix.
blutz said:
My bad, new messages are being threaded from the installation time and onward. I'm happy with this fix.
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Do you not have a problem with MMS sending and receiving with this cab installed? Who is your carrier?
[email protected] said:
Do you not have a problem with MMS sending and receiving with this cab installed? Who is your carrier?
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I usually post on ppcgeeks but while doing a search, it led me hear and thought to chime in. The standard fix for SMS/MMS issues is to install Zenyees cab to disable messaging, reset, install Picturemail removal cab, reset, and install Arcsoft cab for your carrier. Ever since the 2.5 cooked roms have come out, this has always fixed the sms/mms problems. Tap "all messages" from the messaging screen and you should be good to go. if have previous sms from backup data, it may not all thread but any new messages from here on should be threaded.
hope that helps.
hi any print shot for the final look of how the thread look like?
Anyone having issues with installing the Remove PictureMail & Arcsoft.cab? For some reason it wont install the 12kb
i cant install and disable everything still cannot install Remove PictureMail & Arcsoft.cab
christian.a said:
I usually post on ppcgeeks but while doing a search, it led me hear and thought to chime in. The standard fix for SMS/MMS issues is to install Zenyees cab to disable messaging, reset, install Picturemail removal cab, reset, and install Arcsoft cab for your carrier. Ever since the 2.5 cooked roms have come out, this has always fixed the sms/mms problems. Tap "all messages" from the messaging screen and you should be good to go. if have previous sms from backup data, it may not all thread but any new messages from here on should be threaded.
hope that helps.
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The Arcsoft cab did not work for me on the HD2. it just does not play well with the inbox.
If anyone got this to work, please let us know how
I cannot get HTC Messaging disabled using the 1.2 cab, no matter what the MessagingService.dll seems to load on startup regardless of whether it's entry in HKLM\services\MSG is removed or renamed manually or with the cab. And when I go into the Windows folder to try and rename the file, it tells me I can't as it's loaded into Rom.
I'm on 1.48, could someone point out a fix for this please?
no helper???
There's an SMS Hotfix on the HTC site - maybe it helps?
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Hi um having serious problems after restoring my txt messages in dutty with manila 2.5 nevertheless i like manila 2.5 and the rom but i cant live with sms problem in my phone here is my rom version:
RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_Leo_2_5.2.23016.5.0.3_1.59.709.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.14.25.24_R2_MSVC
I had the same problem and switched back to Manila 2.1 ROM because even replacing HTC messaging against WM Messaging did not really help. You can try that in Miris Manila 2.5 ROM with WM Messaging: If one click on "send text message" on the contact card or one reply in Manila to a received text message everything hangs because Manila tries to load the message history.
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Hi um having serious problems after restoring my txt messages in dutty with manila 2.5 nevertheless i like manila 2.5 and the rom but i cant live with sms problem in my phone here is my rom version:
RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_Leo_2_5.2.23016.5.0.3_1.59.709.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.14.25.24_R2_MSVC
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m8 I think it's not possible to install "something" to replace htc messaging. Miri cooked a 2.5 manilla with and another without htc messaging as is still buggy - probs with sms and cannot send mms
I have some success in reverting back to the pocket outlook for sms and even have mms enabled, however, the problem I am having now is the unread count doesn't show up in the tab although new messages I'm still notified.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537
a little bit annoying but working workaround could be the usé of 3rd party app.. even if theres no manilla integration, it should send sms.
on manilla roms I use flexmail.
hate da bloody HTC extension ****.
I don't fancy 2.5 rom's but I tried new versions from energy and pdaviet and as far as I know these bugs were removed
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I don't fancy 2.5 rom's but I tried new versions from energy and pdaviet and as far as I know these bugs were removed
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I do not think so. At least in the Energy thread the SMS bug is still reported. If you restore many old SMS the HD will hang.
what kind of SMS problem u get?
zenkinz said:
I have some success in reverting back to the pocket outlook for sms and even have mms enabled, however, the problem I am having now is the unread count doesn't show up in the tab although new messages I'm still notified.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537
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Followed your workaround from htcpedia.com, works great, good find. You say you've got MMS working? Please do tell!!!
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what kind of SMS problem u get?
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it's performance problem dude. Once you have more than 100-200 messages, the whole messaging apps will claw.Looks like HTC did not do use case analysis and just code based on a 20-message test cases.
mauriceheath said:
Followed your workaround from htcpedia.com, works great, good find. You say you've got MMS working? Please do tell!!!
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I havn't put a cab together yet, and now I'm back to R12 after toggle between R12 & Leo R2 for at least 5 times yesterday just to find out what causes the count indicator not to be displayed.
In the meantime, you can do a google search on arcsoft and try to use the old version of arcsoft.
Ok, I'm moving this thread to general forum as its not really to do with rom development
first ,My English is too bad ..
I Use Diamond 2 with UDK WM6.5 R3 ROM
I dont like "HTC Messages" so i Install the "Disable HTC Messages.cab"
On the Desktop and StartMenu ,Messages is not HTC Messages ! (Very Good)
but. when i recive a new text messages . Top bar have a icon for new messages
I click that icon ,and Display"1 new message",then click that ,Display the HTC messages again
What should I do ,Disabled HTC Messages on the Top bar ?
Thank you !
(My English is too bad. ..)
here is the resolution
copy my post at Blackstone ROM forum:
Here's something I want to share.
Unfortunately NRG didn't make any ROM without HTC Messaging Client and his ROM performance particularly Manila 2.5 performance is blatantly dragged down by this HTC Messaging Client!
Zenkinz's disabling HTC Messaging cab may be the solution available but it still requires an extra exe file to run and stay resident in memory for capturing incoming SMS event and to take further actions.
Anyway, I went deep into the Registry and made this reg file to remove all possible traces of HTC Messaging Client, to result completely preventing the phone to load HTC Messaging Client from the beginning of the phone boot up. This includes removal of any traces of HTC Messaging Client in Notification Manager. Hence, with this registry modification, I don't need to install zenkinz disable HTC Messaging cab (which has extra exe file specifically to run to capture incoming SMS and further actions).
Now my phone is running faster than ever! All SMS apps work, MMS also works (with Arcsoft MMS) no more hurdle with Jataayu MMS!! Incoming SMS counts and notifications and lock screens are all working!!!
Notes:
1. Please use Task Manager to import this Reg. Resco File Explorer seems detect it as error.
2. If you're interested with what I did, just feel free to explore further inside the .reg file.
3. Warning: I didn't prepare a backup Registry file in case you want to fall back to the original HTC Messaging enabled setup (I don't need them!). So try at your own risk!! If you're a HTC Messaging hater, you don't mind right?
4. few known side effects due to removal of HTC Messaging Client
a) Sending SMS from HTC Contact and the Contact's Messages tab are not functioning anymore (it needs HTC Messaging Client integrated with HTC Contact Manager)
b) tapping on Manila Messages' message won't take you to anywhere (supposedly to threaded SMS page) but bounce back.
Thank you so mush !
it's prefect!
So cool!
It's a good tool.
import
thanks, but how to import it with task manager?
this fix works, however doesn't remove Messaging in 100% from the system.
For example functions of People tab still uses this application. It's not too bad if you want to select/edit contact. But when you want to write SMS using this menu... you are done.
In my case, I wrote message in HTC Messaging fired from people tab but while sending I got strange requester to chose method
[C] No Operator
[G] No Operator
I have not to say that after chosing one the message has not been sent.
as I said only use fdcsoft task manager3.1 to import. I confirm that using Resco explorer import it will miss out some reg removals. try again
I still don't know how to open it i've got the file and the fdcsoft task manager but how do i fix this?
seems to be an easier idea to modified the 486d3b1a_manila file to point to wm sms threaded view when a message on HTC sms is clicked.
for wm 6.1 there was a modded 47dd6acd_manila file floating around that did the same thing, in wm 6.5 htc change the name to 486d3b1a_manila but they also changed a lot in manila.. i haven't figured out how to do it.
if anyone want to try, look in that file (486d3b1a_manila) in windows directory.. maybe figure out a way to just redirect to wm sms when you click on htc sms.
I have used the remover and everything works good except the notification LED light of my D2. please help me to solve this problem? Thanks a lot!!
As all of you know the problem of Slow Messaging client in Leo/HD2 ..
i was wondering if our chefs could port messaging application from HD/Blackstone. As before hd2 i had HD. and it never gave me any Trouble with the messaging client. it was fast. Only problem with hd was its Slow Camera.
or if our chefs can make a program to show only 10 or 15 msgs at a time. this will save the time and will help the messaging client to run fast n smoothly.
no one ere is getting trouble with htc messaging client??????????
would like to see that too
you can use energy rom since there is NO CAB yet developed to disable htc messaging and not break other functions...
try this one. u can uninstall it to revert back to default htc messaging client
Doesn't work for me!
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try this one. u can uninstall it to revert back to default htc messaging client
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I have tried this, and whilst it does give you the default WM messaging, which is great, it stops the MMS services from working. (I could see the message, but I couldn't see the picture/attachment, nor could I create an MMS to send). So I ended up uninstalling ZenYee and reverting to the HTC messaging client!
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I have tried this, and whilst it does give you the default WM messaging, which is great, it stops the MMS services from working. (I could see the message, but I couldn't see the picture/attachment, nor could I create an MMS to send). So I ended up uninstalling ZenYee and reverting to the HTC messaging client!
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Thanks for your reviews but zenyee cab does not solve the issue of this thread.
We want wm6.1 sense 2.1 manila mod ported into wm6.5 sense 2.5 manila.
i know everything is totally different in these manila versions but i still think we can extract the messaging application from sense 2.1
No one want this?
Me too I want to know how to change the messaging client
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Me too I want to know how to change the messaging client
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i think no one want to use their hd2 as a fast msgs device. all are happy with slow sms application.
I've searched and searched but just can't find it, most threads don't have intuitive titles to help with the search so hopefully if we get a solution this will help others.
My request is pretty simple (I hope anyway), the HTC Sense SMS app sucks. It's slow, slow and slow; plus the text is tooooooo small for comfortable viewing/ reading outdoors. Is there anyway to switch to the default windows SMS app without flashing a custom ROM.
I haven't sold my [email protected] yet and this might jst be the deal breaker for me. Any assistance would be appreciated.
Go to your messages menu (from the all messages view) and tap menu/options/traditional mode.
You can get the WM client by searching for and downloading the "Zenyee Messaging cab". But I can't guarantee everything working perfectly (I think I had trouble with MMS using the Zenyee cab).
For me, if I have a ROM cooked with standard windows messaging and I apply that cab to use the HTC messaging, it breaks MMS. If I have a ROM with HTC messaging as default, applying the cab to use the standard windows messaging breaks MMS. I cannot win.
Thanks for all the feedback guys!
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Go to your messages menu (from the all messages view) and tap menu/options/traditional mode.
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Just for your reference "traditional mode"; means its threaded. It doesn't change the app.
I like having my text messages read to me. I went to Start/Settings/Personal/VoiceCommand...made sure "enabled" is checked, same with all the boxes. Under "notifications" I have the "Announce notifications using Bluetooth handsfree if available. Under "Messages" I checked the "Announce new messages". I've done this with my Wing and Touch Pro 2 before. Are you guys having the same issues? I flashed mine ROM last night to the stock 3.14. Thank you for your help.
So I just called T-Mobile tech support, unfortunately it doesn't seem like they know anything about Windows Mobile having that feature. Ugh.
i had to do a hard reset...it's still not working, can someone out there pls help me
3.14 does not read text messages or e-mails if you are using the stock HTC messageing application. This has been covered quite a few times. Search on how to disable HTC messageing and get back to the stock WinMo messageing application and it should work.
ashasaur said:
3.14 does not read text messages or e-mails if you are using the stock HTC messageing application. This has been covered quite a few times. Search on how to disable HTC messageing and get back to the stock WinMo messageing application and it should work.
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thank you for your help, i will try that. i disabled HTC sense on my today screen, i will keep trying to research on disabling the htc messaging application. Do you know off hand if it involves downloading a cab or messing with the registry settings (i'm afraid i'll mess up my phone using the latter).
It involves both to completely disable it and regain the ability to have your messages read to you.