Hi um having serious problems after restoring my txt messages in dutty with manila 2.5 nevertheless i like manila 2.5 and the rom but i cant live with sms problem in my phone here is my rom version:
RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_Leo_2_5.2.23016.5.0.3_1.59.709.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.14.25.24_R2_MSVC
I had the same problem and switched back to Manila 2.1 ROM because even replacing HTC messaging against WM Messaging did not really help. You can try that in Miris Manila 2.5 ROM with WM Messaging: If one click on "send text message" on the contact card or one reply in Manila to a received text message everything hangs because Manila tries to load the message history.
onlineemails said:
Hi um having serious problems after restoring my txt messages in dutty with manila 2.5 nevertheless i like manila 2.5 and the rom but i cant live with sms problem in my phone here is my rom version:
RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_Leo_2_5.2.23016.5.0.3_1.59.709.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.14.25.24_R2_MSVC
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m8 I think it's not possible to install "something" to replace htc messaging. Miri cooked a 2.5 manilla with and another without htc messaging as is still buggy - probs with sms and cannot send mms
I have some success in reverting back to the pocket outlook for sms and even have mms enabled, however, the problem I am having now is the unread count doesn't show up in the tab although new messages I'm still notified.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537
a little bit annoying but working workaround could be the usé of 3rd party app.. even if theres no manilla integration, it should send sms.
on manilla roms I use flexmail.
hate da bloody HTC extension ****.
I don't fancy 2.5 rom's but I tried new versions from energy and pdaviet and as far as I know these bugs were removed
pasil.pt said:
I don't fancy 2.5 rom's but I tried new versions from energy and pdaviet and as far as I know these bugs were removed
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I do not think so. At least in the Energy thread the SMS bug is still reported. If you restore many old SMS the HD will hang.
what kind of SMS problem u get?
zenkinz said:
I have some success in reverting back to the pocket outlook for sms and even have mms enabled, however, the problem I am having now is the unread count doesn't show up in the tab although new messages I'm still notified.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537
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Followed your workaround from htcpedia.com, works great, good find. You say you've got MMS working? Please do tell!!!
dameon12 said:
what kind of SMS problem u get?
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it's performance problem dude. Once you have more than 100-200 messages, the whole messaging apps will claw.Looks like HTC did not do use case analysis and just code based on a 20-message test cases.
mauriceheath said:
Followed your workaround from htcpedia.com, works great, good find. You say you've got MMS working? Please do tell!!!
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I havn't put a cab together yet, and now I'm back to R12 after toggle between R12 & Leo R2 for at least 5 times yesterday just to find out what causes the count indicator not to be displayed.
In the meantime, you can do a google search on arcsoft and try to use the old version of arcsoft.
Ok, I'm moving this thread to general forum as its not really to do with rom development
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Hello. I just cooked a ROM with the new Manila 2.1 packages (with weather on home screen). Everything works great, except the messages in the manila messaging tab are out of order chronologically. Anyone else experienced this problem? Is there a fix? Your help would be greatly appreciated.
By the way, the new manila is beautiful. Here are screenshots of my ROM and the messaging problem.
i have this problem as well,
first i see all received sms then all sent, just like your screenshot.
sadax said:
i have this problem as well,
first i see all received sms then all sent, just like your screenshot.
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I solved it by replacing the HTC messaging enhancement packages with packaged from an older version of Manila.
I know this has been discussed numerous times prior to this handset being released, and that HTC messaging has been cause various amounts of lag when the sms count is more then 20+ for one contact.
Im thinking everyone like me thought this issue would be fixed when the HD2 came out, with its 'power'. But I guess it had nothing to do with how powerful a processor you needed, but good programming, and ram allocation.
I've disabled htc sense, and used the default windows mobile 6.5 interface, but this still uses htc messaging.
So I tried to disable htc messaging using that tweak posted previously. It didn't work. When I clicked on a message in the message tab, nothing happened.
Has anyone with a hd2 emailed htc about this issue? I can't believe we still have this problem.
same here. would really like to go back to native wm threaded messages without disabling the Sense itself which is great..
HTC messaging disable
just google zenyee disable messaging and you will find what you are looking for....i had the same problem...i keep over 400 msgs in my inbox and it just slowed down like crazy...used the cab file on the site and its working perfectly...both sense and standard 6.5 messaging.
check it out.
kushalc said:
just google zenyee disable messaging and you will find what you are looking for....i had the same problem...i keep over 400 msgs in my inbox and it just slowed down like crazy...used the cab file on the site and its working perfectly...both sense and standard 6.5 messaging.
check it out.
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From my first post, I have already tried to use this cab, and it didnt work.
htc should just put a limit to the number of SMS messages to be shown when you open a contact's sms page. For example 20 messages shown immediately and if/when you need to read past messages, you just tap on a "show more messages" button on top of the sms list.. that should work wonderfully..
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
Eraser85 said:
htc should just put a limit to the number of SMS messages to be shown when you open a contact's sms page. For example 20 messages shown immediately and if/when you need to read past messages, you just tap on a "show more messages" button on top of the sms list.. that should work wonderfully..
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now this should work, right? like on the iphone... the old messages will simply be archived. is there any tweak to do that?
Sounds like it would be an awesome idea. Or just port manila's 2.1 htc messaging.
Otherwise, the quick fix, all you do is push the keyboard logo, then you can compose a text right away.
Beats disabling htc messaging, and going back to the ugly default windows messaging.
blutz said:
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
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I've tried both of these and neither work for me. I'd love to just have the normal WM SMS editor back!! (and no threading either)
I'd also love to get the damn album saving to \Storage Card\My Documents\My Pictures as well... another #htcfail !!
Disable HTC Messaging on HD2
The Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 cab works as it says it would, ie default back to MS messaging system & the HTC messaging is no mas.
However, when tapping on a message from the text tab in sence, it does nothing (as it said it would), but there has to be a registry tweak to over come this.
Also, MMS is also no mas! This is a problem for me. I have installed, Arcsoftmms 5.0.31.7.us.cab with not luck. MMS messages go no where.
I have tried Arcsoft MMS composer WWE, also with no luck. This creates the MMS tab under menu/new/ sms or mms. It gives the old Windows CE look of MMS.
Voice command actually reads incoming text messages (which is a plus)
The TellMe app actually sends a dictated text (also a plus) with the Zenyee cab installed.
The lack of MMS is a no deal for me.
So, I recall my HTC HD days with the MIRI ROMS and the Energy ROMS. Miri (as well as Xanny Tech ROMS) roms had an option of ROMS without HTC messaging. These ROMs had the old 2.1 HTC Messaging (everything else M2.5) & WM messaging combined & MMS was present. The energy ROMS actually had both WM & the new HTC messaging enabled (with MMS).
My questions are: is there something I'm missing with this Zenyee cab and enabling MMS? Can I have both HTC messaging & WM messaging with MMS? I would be satisfied with this stock ROM (For now) if answered.
Please Help,
Todd
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The Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 cab works as it says it would, ie default back to MS messaging system & the HTC messaging is no mas.
However, when tapping on a message from the text tab in sence, it does nothing (as it said it would), but there has to be a registry tweak to over come this.
Also, MMS is also no mas! This is a problem for me. I have installed, Arcsoftmms 5.0.31.7.us.cab with not luck. MMS messages go no where.
I have tried Arcsoft MMS composer WWE, also with no luck. This creates the MMS tab under menu/new/ sms or mms. It gives the old Windows CE look of MMS.
Voice command actually reads incoming text messages (which is a plus)
The TellMe app actually sends a dictated text (also a plus) with the Zenyee cab installed.
The lack of MMS is a no deal for me.
So, I recall my HTC HD days with the MIRI ROMS and the Energy ROMS. Miri (as well as Xanny Tech ROMS) roms had an option of ROMS without HTC messaging. These ROMs had the old 2.1 HTC Messaging (everything else M2.5) & WM messaging combined & MMS was present. The energy ROMS actually had both WM & the new HTC messaging enabled (with MMS).
My questions are: is there something I'm missing with this Zenyee cab and enabling MMS? Can I have both HTC messaging & WM messaging with MMS? I would be satisfied with this stock ROM (For now) if answered.
Please Help,
Todd
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me too
i would ask how i can delete for ever htc messaging and back to wm sms/mms
blutz said:
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
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My bad, new messages are being threaded from the installation time and onward. I'm happy with this fix.
blutz said:
My bad, new messages are being threaded from the installation time and onward. I'm happy with this fix.
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Do you not have a problem with MMS sending and receiving with this cab installed? Who is your carrier?
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Do you not have a problem with MMS sending and receiving with this cab installed? Who is your carrier?
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I usually post on ppcgeeks but while doing a search, it led me hear and thought to chime in. The standard fix for SMS/MMS issues is to install Zenyees cab to disable messaging, reset, install Picturemail removal cab, reset, and install Arcsoft cab for your carrier. Ever since the 2.5 cooked roms have come out, this has always fixed the sms/mms problems. Tap "all messages" from the messaging screen and you should be good to go. if have previous sms from backup data, it may not all thread but any new messages from here on should be threaded.
hope that helps.
hi any print shot for the final look of how the thread look like?
Anyone having issues with installing the Remove PictureMail & Arcsoft.cab? For some reason it wont install the 12kb
i cant install and disable everything still cannot install Remove PictureMail & Arcsoft.cab
christian.a said:
I usually post on ppcgeeks but while doing a search, it led me hear and thought to chime in. The standard fix for SMS/MMS issues is to install Zenyees cab to disable messaging, reset, install Picturemail removal cab, reset, and install Arcsoft cab for your carrier. Ever since the 2.5 cooked roms have come out, this has always fixed the sms/mms problems. Tap "all messages" from the messaging screen and you should be good to go. if have previous sms from backup data, it may not all thread but any new messages from here on should be threaded.
hope that helps.
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The Arcsoft cab did not work for me on the HD2. it just does not play well with the inbox.
If anyone got this to work, please let us know how
I cannot get HTC Messaging disabled using the 1.2 cab, no matter what the MessagingService.dll seems to load on startup regardless of whether it's entry in HKLM\services\MSG is removed or renamed manually or with the cab. And when I go into the Windows folder to try and rename the file, it tells me I can't as it's loaded into Rom.
I'm on 1.48, could someone point out a fix for this please?
no helper???
There's an SMS Hotfix on the HTC site - maybe it helps?
hello
how can we Disable all htc all people and activate WM OEM contact?
I applied zenyee SMS patch to disable htc messaging but now everywhere that i select send text message it does nothing since htc all people replaced the WM OEM messaging shortcuts, so if it is disabled everything relates to original Windows contacts and it will be ok!
when i disable manila everything works fine!
thanks for helping
no body
+1
Looks like HTC messaging is deeply integraded with manilla. Or developers don't care about removing this stuff completly since HTC Messaging is simply slow.
xborfi said:
hello
how can we Disable all htc all people and activate WM OEM contact?
I applied zenyee SMS patch to disable htc messaging but now everywhere that i select send text message it does nothing since htc all people replaced the WM OEM messaging shortcuts, so if it is disabled everything relates to original Windows contacts and it will be ok!
when i disable manila everything works fine!
thanks for helping
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first you have not identified what ROM you are using. so difficult to help you.
it not depends on ROM. HTC messaging is slow and buggy on all roms.
But try to help with 6.5.1 ROM + Manilla 2.5
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first you have not identified what ROM you are using. so difficult to help you.
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well i tried almost all roms here! but when htc messaging have more than 20 msg it is going to slow the device , it is not that HD is slow or weak , if you look on LEO forum you see people have problem already! so htc messaging is buggy and it is useless, but when I disable it using zenyee patch all the shourtcuts in ex. dialer all people contacts that have send text mesasage function also broken. so all people shouyld be disabled and WM OEM contact should handle the things! thats why i want to disable all people! -- I think it has something to do with registry! --
no body know the solution? I just want to disable HTC People on manila 2.5 and everywhere in windows so it is like it was never there!
no one has found a solution?
pls....
thank you..
bump for a solution!
I'm with you.
remove HTC messaging completly out from the system.
pleease
+1 here. "Send Message" just doesn't work anymore..
+1 no manila sms and no manila contacts
+1.
manila integration is slow and crashes.
As all of you know the problem of Slow Messaging client in Leo/HD2 ..
i was wondering if our chefs could port messaging application from HD/Blackstone. As before hd2 i had HD. and it never gave me any Trouble with the messaging client. it was fast. Only problem with hd was its Slow Camera.
or if our chefs can make a program to show only 10 or 15 msgs at a time. this will save the time and will help the messaging client to run fast n smoothly.
no one ere is getting trouble with htc messaging client??????????
would like to see that too
you can use energy rom since there is NO CAB yet developed to disable htc messaging and not break other functions...
try this one. u can uninstall it to revert back to default htc messaging client
Doesn't work for me!
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try this one. u can uninstall it to revert back to default htc messaging client
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I have tried this, and whilst it does give you the default WM messaging, which is great, it stops the MMS services from working. (I could see the message, but I couldn't see the picture/attachment, nor could I create an MMS to send). So I ended up uninstalling ZenYee and reverting to the HTC messaging client!
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I have tried this, and whilst it does give you the default WM messaging, which is great, it stops the MMS services from working. (I could see the message, but I couldn't see the picture/attachment, nor could I create an MMS to send). So I ended up uninstalling ZenYee and reverting to the HTC messaging client!
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Thanks for your reviews but zenyee cab does not solve the issue of this thread.
We want wm6.1 sense 2.1 manila mod ported into wm6.5 sense 2.5 manila.
i know everything is totally different in these manila versions but i still think we can extract the messaging application from sense 2.1
No one want this?
Me too I want to know how to change the messaging client
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Me too I want to know how to change the messaging client
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i think no one want to use their hd2 as a fast msgs device. all are happy with slow sms application.
OS version - 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
Manila Version - 2.5.20121412.2
Rom Version - 2.13.531.1 (90963)
Rom Date - 04/28/10
Radio Version - 2.10.50.26
Protocol Version - 15.39.50.07U
The problem is that when I get an incoming text message, my phone will freeze for upwards of 2-5 min before the text clears and the sound plays. After the sound plays, my phone will have slight lag, but then go back to normal speed.
If multiple texts come in at the same time, my phone can be frozen for up to 15 min!
Any help?
Welcome to the HTC SMS client...the one true achilles heel of this phone. The newer version that comes in the ROM you have was supposed to fix all that, but it only seems to have helped a little, and not for everybody.
You can help it a little by keeping the number of messages in your inbox trimmed down to a minimum, but even that won't solve the issue where it chokes when getting too many messages too fast.
There's a cab or two to disable the HTC client and just work with the underlying WM interface, but I haven't tried any of them. Several of the custom ROM's available here also have that disabled by default (as part of their effort to make the phone work better in general).
So there is nothing to do?
No new messaging mods/apps or anything like that?
EDIT: I currently have lots of conversations and lots of texts in those conversations. Would trimming those down help?
ranestari said:
So there is nothing to do?
No new messaging mods/apps or anything like that?
EDIT: I currently have lots of conversations and lots of texts in those conversations. Would trimming those down help?
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Use the Microsoft Myphone program to archive your text messages online. They'll be pulled off your phone and stored in your online profile. You can restore any single sms or all of them if you.
It wont archive MMS, so you'll need to manually save those and delete them from your inbox.
Mase_Mase said:
Use the Microsoft Myphone program to archive your text messages online. They'll be pulled off your phone and stored in your online profile. You can restore any single sms or all of them if you.
It wont archive MMS, so you'll need to manually save those and delete them from your inbox.
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Would that help the speed of the texts coming in?
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Welcome to the HTC SMS client...the one true achilles heel of this phone. The newer version that comes in the ROM you have was supposed to fix all that, but it only seems to have helped a little, and not for everybody.
You can help it a little by keeping the number of messages in your inbox trimmed down to a minimum, but even that won't solve the issue where it chokes when getting too many messages too fast.
There's a cab or two to disable the HTC client and just work with the underlying WM interface, but I haven't tried any of them. Several of the custom ROM's available here also have that disabled by default (as part of their effort to make the phone work better in general).
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Mase_Mase said:
Use the Microsoft Myphone program to archive your text messages online. They'll be pulled off your phone and stored in your online profile. You can restore any single sms or all of them if you.
It wont archive MMS, so you'll need to manually save those and delete them from your inbox.
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ranestari said:
Would that help the speed of the texts coming in?
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Did you read the replies to this thread? In the end there is no proven fix for the problem when using the HTC Messenger. I have found that using the windows messengers greatly if not completely eliminates the problem all together.
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Did you read the replies to this thread? In the end there is no proven fix for the problem when using the HTC Messenger. I have found that using the windows messengers greatly if not completely eliminates the problem all together.
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How would you use the windows messenger?
Like disable sense ui and use the titanium ui? Cause I believe that still pulls up the HTC messenger.
I love Vito SMS-Chat...
(The system prevented me from posting the link, but google finds it easily)
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How would you use the windows messenger?
Like disable sense ui and use the titanium ui? Cause I believe that still pulls up the HTC messenger.
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http://pocketnow.com/how-to/how-to-disable-htc-messaging-on-the-hd2
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http://pocketnow.com/how-to/how-to-disable-htc-messaging-on-the-hd2
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ranestari, that article there has a link to (one of) the cabs I mentioned above, that will simply disable the HTC SMS client and let you use the stock WM interface instead. That should go a long way towards helping with your issues, but we still highly recommend not letting your inbox get too overstuffed...WM has long been known for not being able to tolerate that.
Sorry to necro this thread, but is there any other messaging client that I could use a cab with?
With the stock windows mobile client, I don't recieve any texts, but I know that they get sent.