My T-Mobile HTC HD2 has terrible lag when texts are incoming... - HD2 General

OS version - 5.2.21892 (21892.5.0.89)
Manila Version - 2.5.20121412.2
Rom Version - 2.13.531.1 (90963)
Rom Date - 04/28/10
Radio Version - 2.10.50.26
Protocol Version - 15.39.50.07U
The problem is that when I get an incoming text message, my phone will freeze for upwards of 2-5 min before the text clears and the sound plays. After the sound plays, my phone will have slight lag, but then go back to normal speed.
If multiple texts come in at the same time, my phone can be frozen for up to 15 min!
Any help?

Welcome to the HTC SMS client...the one true achilles heel of this phone. The newer version that comes in the ROM you have was supposed to fix all that, but it only seems to have helped a little, and not for everybody.
You can help it a little by keeping the number of messages in your inbox trimmed down to a minimum, but even that won't solve the issue where it chokes when getting too many messages too fast.
There's a cab or two to disable the HTC client and just work with the underlying WM interface, but I haven't tried any of them. Several of the custom ROM's available here also have that disabled by default (as part of their effort to make the phone work better in general).

So there is nothing to do?
No new messaging mods/apps or anything like that?
EDIT: I currently have lots of conversations and lots of texts in those conversations. Would trimming those down help?

ranestari said:
So there is nothing to do?
No new messaging mods/apps or anything like that?
EDIT: I currently have lots of conversations and lots of texts in those conversations. Would trimming those down help?
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Use the Microsoft Myphone program to archive your text messages online. They'll be pulled off your phone and stored in your online profile. You can restore any single sms or all of them if you.
It wont archive MMS, so you'll need to manually save those and delete them from your inbox.

Mase_Mase said:
Use the Microsoft Myphone program to archive your text messages online. They'll be pulled off your phone and stored in your online profile. You can restore any single sms or all of them if you.
It wont archive MMS, so you'll need to manually save those and delete them from your inbox.
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Would that help the speed of the texts coming in?

sirphunkee said:
Welcome to the HTC SMS client...the one true achilles heel of this phone. The newer version that comes in the ROM you have was supposed to fix all that, but it only seems to have helped a little, and not for everybody.
You can help it a little by keeping the number of messages in your inbox trimmed down to a minimum, but even that won't solve the issue where it chokes when getting too many messages too fast.
There's a cab or two to disable the HTC client and just work with the underlying WM interface, but I haven't tried any of them. Several of the custom ROM's available here also have that disabled by default (as part of their effort to make the phone work better in general).
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Mase_Mase said:
Use the Microsoft Myphone program to archive your text messages online. They'll be pulled off your phone and stored in your online profile. You can restore any single sms or all of them if you.
It wont archive MMS, so you'll need to manually save those and delete them from your inbox.
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ranestari said:
Would that help the speed of the texts coming in?
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Did you read the replies to this thread? In the end there is no proven fix for the problem when using the HTC Messenger. I have found that using the windows messengers greatly if not completely eliminates the problem all together.

ddgarcia05 said:
Did you read the replies to this thread? In the end there is no proven fix for the problem when using the HTC Messenger. I have found that using the windows messengers greatly if not completely eliminates the problem all together.
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How would you use the windows messenger?
Like disable sense ui and use the titanium ui? Cause I believe that still pulls up the HTC messenger.

I love Vito SMS-Chat...
(The system prevented me from posting the link, but google finds it easily)

ranestari said:
How would you use the windows messenger?
Like disable sense ui and use the titanium ui? Cause I believe that still pulls up the HTC messenger.
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http://pocketnow.com/how-to/how-to-disable-htc-messaging-on-the-hd2

ddgarcia05 said:
http://pocketnow.com/how-to/how-to-disable-htc-messaging-on-the-hd2
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+1
ranestari, that article there has a link to (one of) the cabs I mentioned above, that will simply disable the HTC SMS client and let you use the stock WM interface instead. That should go a long way towards helping with your issues, but we still highly recommend not letting your inbox get too overstuffed...WM has long been known for not being able to tolerate that.

Sorry to necro this thread, but is there any other messaging client that I could use a cab with?
With the stock windows mobile client, I don't recieve any texts, but I know that they get sent.

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htc messenger really slow with 50+ messages

hello,
i have a problem and some other users i know too. if i have more then
50+ sms on an contact, my hd2 just works really slow. i need up to
30 seconds before i can write a new sms to this person...
do you know a alternative sms program which i can use on the
communications tab? or can i use the Windows program for this without
deactivating sense? Can i bind this to the normal tab?
used search function already
best regards
don_sefer
I have the same problem and now i don't have more by 30 msg and it's fast.
Never experienced this problem. I'm on CleanEX 1.x (based on HTC 1.72, WM6.5). Perhaps this makes the difference?
Check this thread out, might be of interest http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614 - Disabling HTC messaging
daemonfly said:
Check this thread out, might be of interest http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614 - Disabling HTC messaging
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ive not several hundred messages and no issues so take note of the^^
don_sefer said:
hello,
i have a problem and some other users i know too. if i have more then
50+ sms on an contact, my hd2 just works really slow. i need up to
30 seconds before i can write a new sms to this person...
do you know a alternative sms program which i can use on the
communications tab? or can i use the Windows program for this without
deactivating sense? Can i bind this to the normal tab?
used search function already
best regards
don_sefer
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Yeah, same here! Newer Roms kinda make this problem less bad. Get at least the newest 1.72 from HTC. IT's noticably better than the older Roms.
But: somehow the problem does not get worse with even more messages. I used to have around 2000 texts on my phone (yes, thousands) and it's just as slow as with 50.

SMS 2 Calendar app

I have been a long time user of PhoneLog which logs all calls and sms messages into your calendar. Excellent app.
The only issue is that with 6.5.5 /Sense 2 it does not seem to log SMS's anymore
Does anyone have a similar app. It logs it in real time and ends up on my work calendar via Exchange active sync.
im not familar with anything personally, but it sounds like a cool idea and i would be interested to know aswell.
by the way... are you using the HTC Messaging Client or the stock WinMo one? i wonder if that would make any difference to the performance of PhoneLog.
Its a thought.
Messages are still finally stored in the Winmo messaging client. The HTC one is just a skin however the phonelogs triggers may be blocked by HTC.
working
Can this cab and it seems to be working again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614
Thanks for the tip lamensterms
you say 'can' this .CAB? do you mean trash/ditch the .CAB, or use that .CAB?
ha ha, im not trying to be a jerk... just not sure if you had a typo or not.
i do use that .CAB seeing as i couldnt agree with the HTC client.
glad you got it going, now i think ill have to check PhoneLog out.
cheers.
Typo. Cab worked fine.
Phone log = http://www.infinityball.com/phonelog/
Now is logging incoming messages but not outgoing.
I have tried using threaded view or single message view. Same issue. Better thou.
Also Sense now fails to acknowledge that the sms has been read. That might be a deal breaker.
Is there a util which can back up messages to calendar once a day/week?
Also Sense now fails to acknowledge that the sms has been read.
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while using the stock WM sms client... it is a know issue for Sense to keep displaying the notification bubble on the SMS tab. i experience this problem very rarely (so rarely that it is hardly a problem for me). i think it might have been discussed in the thread where you retrieved zenyee's .CAB, but i cannot remember for sure.
Is there a util which can back up messages to calendar once a day/week?
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after some quick google "research"... it seems there are other apps similar to phonelog available for blackberry and android... but phonelog may be the only one of its kind for WM.
here is a request on another (microsoft) forum - http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/outlook/thread/66e9160d-46ed-452c-91fa-6f3a6a88f86d
there are other folk out there who share your request. maybe some further integration could be on the horizon.
let me know how you go with HTC messaging VS WINMO.
cheers.

SMS messages overloading HD2

Hi there.
I've had problems with my HD2 since I got it shortly after release last year. I've upgraded it to the latest ROM 1.66 and I still *had* problems with extreme sluggishness and freezing. "Services.exe" was a program that often got problems. I also had the "sleep of death" syndrome.
After I updated it and did a hard-reset I used PIMbackup to backup my contacts, SMS messages, appointments and such. No programs were restored. It still had the same problems. So I tried different things, but with no luck, until I did a hard-reset and restored everything except for my SMS messages. There were about 1600 of them, which I personally think is not that many. Now it runs fine, no freezing nor sluggishness.
So my question is, is it normal for an expensive smart phone like this to get that slow and unstable just by having a little too many SMS messages?
Thanks in advance.
/Zhibbhi
Zhibbhi said:
Hi there.
I've had problems with my HD2 since I got it shortly after release last year. I've upgraded it to the latest ROM 1.66 and I still *had* problems with extreme sluggishness and freezing. "Services.exe" was a program that often got problems. I also had the "sleep of death" syndrome.
After I updated it and did a hard-reset I used PIMbackup to backup my contacts, SMS messages, appointments and such. No programs were restored. It still had the same problems. So I tried different things, but with no luck, until I did a hard-reset and restored everything except for my SMS messages. There were about 1600 of them, which I personally think is not that many. Now it runs fine, no freezing nor sluggishness.
So my question is, is it normal for an expensive smart phone like this to get that slow and unstable just by having a little too many SMS messages?
Thanks in advance.
/Zhibbhi
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i've just gone an deleted 5000 SMS's and i was not having any problems with slowness.
I just deleted them for a bit of house keeping, thats all.
i weekly take backup of sms's using pimbackup. if i dont clear the sms then it will b very difficult to text and open the application. it takes around 10-15 seconds to open a conversation thread with mor than 2000 sms's and around 8-10 seconds for 200-700 sms.
I weekly send around 4-5000 sms's and this fone have only one BAD point.. that is Messaging client.
mon_money said:
i weekly take backup of sms's using pimbackup. if i dont clear the sms then it will b very difficult to text and open the application. it takes around 10-15 seconds to open a conversation thread with mor than 2000 sms's and around 8-10 seconds for 200-700 sms.
I weekly send around 4-5000 sms's and this fone have only one BAD point.. that is Messaging client.
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is that using the HTC Messaging client? or WM SMS?
djchubbs said:
i've just gone an deleted 5000 SMS's and i was not having any problems with slowness.
I just deleted them for a bit of house keeping, thats all.
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So if you can have triple the amount of text messages than me, that must mean that there is something wrong with my phone, right?
If I send it to repair, they'll probably just hard-reset it, take a quick test on it, and sent it back saying they didn't find any problems on it. Isn't that right?
Zhibbhi said:
So if you can have triple the amount of text messages than me, that must mean that there is something wrong with my phone, right?
If I send it to repair, they'll probably just hard-reset it, take a quick test on it, and sent it back saying they didn't find any problems on it. Isn't that right?
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What messaging client are you using? HTC or WM?
I use the HTC messaging client.
Zhibbhi said:
I use the HTC messaging client.
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thats may be why, i dont, i found with HTC messaging client that with as little as 100 sms in my inbox the client would lag, so i reverted to WM messaging client and runs like a dream, on its not the best looking client but still, does the job as they say.
Ah, ok. Where can I find the WM client?
Thanks for your help!
im not 100% sure but i think there shuold be a way of dissabling HTC client and it will default to WM SMS, maybe someone else could shed some light on this
Nevermind, found it =)
A million thanks for your help djchubbs! =D
Zhibbhi said:
Nevermind, found it =)
A million thanks for your help djchubbs! =D
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no problem, like i said, its doesnt look great but performance wise you should notice the difference.

Sense Integrated SMS app

Basically, if HTC Messenging had the ability to only pause after loading 10 messages, I would use it. I love its style and how it's integrated so well, but hate that it's slow because it loads all the messages.
So, does anyone know of a nice, sense integrated, key words there lol, sms app?
Regards
Smith
smithisize said:
Basically, if HTC Messenging had the ability to only pause after loading 10 messages, I would use it. I love its style and how it's integrated so well, but hate that it's slow because it loads all the messages.
So, does anyone know of a nice, sense integrated, key words there lol, sms app?
Regards
Smith
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I can only add, that integrated sms messenger is slow as hell.
I would be very glad to have that simple messenger from windows mobile 6.0. Is that possible?
There is a cab file floating around here at XDA for version 1.8 HTC Messaging. I tried it, and it was just as slow/buggy as 1.5. So don't bother with it IMO if you find it.
Yeah, I've tried HTC Messenging. It's not really slow or buggy anymore, actually quite nice, but it loads all my messages at once, which then causes it to be slow. Once this can be throttled, it won't be a problem
smithisize said:
Yeah, I've tried HTC Messenging. It's not really slow or buggy anymore, actually quite nice, but it loads all my messages at once, which then causes it to be slow. Once this can be throttled, it won't be a problem
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Try Arcsoft Messenger.
Tried to install Arcsoft Messenger, but nothing happens.
No new start menu, nothing.
Tried to install with Sense enabled/disabled, no difference.
I even found the file ArcMS.exe under Windows directory, tried to launch it but nothing happened.
Maybe there are other ideas how to get good-old win 6 style simple SMS messenger?
ArcSoft MMS? Yeah, that's what's in the ROM I'm using now. It does it's job I guess :/

Slow Interface for Text Messages

I am not sure if it is just me or everyone else is also having this problem also:
The Message app interface is really slow. It takes a long time to load or send messages. There is atleast a 5+ second delay when interfacing with different threads. For example: When I am reading my txt messages from person A, and then I press the back button to view all my messages, it takes atleast 5+ secs to go back to the view with all messages.
To troubleshoot this issue, I backed up my mmssms.db file and deleted it from the phone. This way I start fresh with no saved message. All of a sudden this issue was solved. The interface was fast again with no lag at all. But when I restored my original mmssms.db again, the interface becomes slow again.
Any way resolve this issue?
Edit: I am using the MDJ FroYo Revolution v2.3 NAND build.
Is this problem occurring in the Android ROM you have in your signature, or in WM?
If it's WM then you need to update your ROM as there were SMS lag issues in early WM ROMs.
johncmolyneux said:
Is this problem occurring in the Android ROM you have in your signature, or in WM?
If it's WM then you need to update your ROM as there were SMS lag issues in early WM ROMs.
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Yes, I am using the Android MDJ FroYo Revolution v2.3 NAND build.
Any suggestions on how to fix this problem?
I never had that problem... How many messages do you have?
DeadVirus said:
I never had that problem... How many messages do you have?
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I have over 5000+ txt in total.
Zythyr said:
I have over 5000+ txt in total.
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Well I have less than 1000, so that may be your problem...
Well I don't want to delete all my text. I like having all the conversations saved. Is there any fix for this issue?
I can't suggest a solution that would make the messaging app quicker with that many texts, but I use an app called SMS Backup+ (available free on the Market) and it automatically backs up all messages (and new messages) to your Gmail account, in a new folder called SMS. That way, you could delete them from your phone and still have access to them.
Alternatively, try an another SMS app, like GO SMS (again, free on the Market, as are many others). It may be better for you.
johncmolyneux said:
I can't suggest a solution that would make the messaging app quicker with that many texts, but I use an app called SMS Backup+ (available free on the Market) and it automatically backs up all messages (and new messages) to your Gmail account, in a new folder called SMS. That way, you could delete them from your phone and still have access to them.
Alternatively, try an another SMS app, like GO SMS (again, free on the Market, as are many others). It may be better for you.
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I installed GO SMS. Really like the app, thanks for the tip, although the interface is still slow.
Also, I have been noticing my text messages keep randomly being deleted. Luckily I have them backed up and have to restore it. I have noticed this problem atleast 4 times during the last 4 days. Why is this happening? I made sure to go to Settings and uncheck limited messages.

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