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Replacing manila 2.5 HTC messaging with Windows outlook

Hi um having serious problems after restoring my txt messages in dutty with manila 2.5 nevertheless i like manila 2.5 and the rom but i cant live with sms problem in my phone here is my rom version:
RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_Leo_2_5.2.23016.5.0.3_1.59.709.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.14.25.24_R2_MSVC

I had the same problem and switched back to Manila 2.1 ROM because even replacing HTC messaging against WM Messaging did not really help. You can try that in Miris Manila 2.5 ROM with WM Messaging: If one click on "send text message" on the contact card or one reply in Manila to a received text message everything hangs because Manila tries to load the message history.

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Hi um having serious problems after restoring my txt messages in dutty with manila 2.5 nevertheless i like manila 2.5 and the rom but i cant live with sms problem in my phone here is my rom version:
RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_Leo_2_5.2.23016.5.0.3_1.59.709.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.14.25.24_R2_MSVC
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m8 I think it's not possible to install "something" to replace htc messaging. Miri cooked a 2.5 manilla with and another without htc messaging as is still buggy - probs with sms and cannot send mms

I have some success in reverting back to the pocket outlook for sms and even have mms enabled, however, the problem I am having now is the unread count doesn't show up in the tab although new messages I'm still notified.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537

a little bit annoying but working workaround could be the usé of 3rd party app.. even if theres no manilla integration, it should send sms.
on manilla roms I use flexmail.
hate da bloody HTC extension ****.

I don't fancy 2.5 rom's but I tried new versions from energy and pdaviet and as far as I know these bugs were removed

pasil.pt said:
I don't fancy 2.5 rom's but I tried new versions from energy and pdaviet and as far as I know these bugs were removed
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I do not think so. At least in the Energy thread the SMS bug is still reported. If you restore many old SMS the HD will hang.

what kind of SMS problem u get?

zenkinz said:
I have some success in reverting back to the pocket outlook for sms and even have mms enabled, however, the problem I am having now is the unread count doesn't show up in the tab although new messages I'm still notified.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537
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Followed your workaround from htcpedia.com, works great, good find. You say you've got MMS working? Please do tell!!!

dameon12 said:
what kind of SMS problem u get?
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it's performance problem dude. Once you have more than 100-200 messages, the whole messaging apps will claw.Looks like HTC did not do use case analysis and just code based on a 20-message test cases.

mauriceheath said:
Followed your workaround from htcpedia.com, works great, good find. You say you've got MMS working? Please do tell!!!
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I havn't put a cab together yet, and now I'm back to R12 after toggle between R12 & Leo R2 for at least 5 times yesterday just to find out what causes the count indicator not to be displayed.
In the meantime, you can do a google search on arcsoft and try to use the old version of arcsoft.

Ok, I'm moving this thread to general forum as its not really to do with rom development

HTC Messaging On HTC HD2 Issue

I know this has been discussed numerous times prior to this handset being released, and that HTC messaging has been cause various amounts of lag when the sms count is more then 20+ for one contact.
Im thinking everyone like me thought this issue would be fixed when the HD2 came out, with its 'power'. But I guess it had nothing to do with how powerful a processor you needed, but good programming, and ram allocation.
I've disabled htc sense, and used the default windows mobile 6.5 interface, but this still uses htc messaging.
So I tried to disable htc messaging using that tweak posted previously. It didn't work. When I clicked on a message in the message tab, nothing happened.
Has anyone with a hd2 emailed htc about this issue? I can't believe we still have this problem.

same here. would really like to go back to native wm threaded messages without disabling the Sense itself which is great..

HTC messaging disable
just google zenyee disable messaging and you will find what you are looking for....i had the same problem...i keep over 400 msgs in my inbox and it just slowed down like crazy...used the cab file on the site and its working perfectly...both sense and standard 6.5 messaging.
check it out.

kushalc said:
just google zenyee disable messaging and you will find what you are looking for....i had the same problem...i keep over 400 msgs in my inbox and it just slowed down like crazy...used the cab file on the site and its working perfectly...both sense and standard 6.5 messaging.
check it out.
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From my first post, I have already tried to use this cab, and it didnt work.

htc should just put a limit to the number of SMS messages to be shown when you open a contact's sms page. For example 20 messages shown immediately and if/when you need to read past messages, you just tap on a "show more messages" button on top of the sms list.. that should work wonderfully..

1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..

Eraser85 said:
htc should just put a limit to the number of SMS messages to be shown when you open a contact's sms page. For example 20 messages shown immediately and if/when you need to read past messages, you just tap on a "show more messages" button on top of the sms list.. that should work wonderfully..
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now this should work, right? like on the iphone... the old messages will simply be archived. is there any tweak to do that?

Sounds like it would be an awesome idea. Or just port manila's 2.1 htc messaging.
Otherwise, the quick fix, all you do is push the keyboard logo, then you can compose a text right away.
Beats disabling htc messaging, and going back to the ugly default windows messaging.

blutz said:
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
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I've tried both of these and neither work for me. I'd love to just have the normal WM SMS editor back!! (and no threading either)
I'd also love to get the damn album saving to \Storage Card\My Documents\My Pictures as well... another #htcfail !!

Disable HTC Messaging on HD2
The Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 cab works as it says it would, ie default back to MS messaging system & the HTC messaging is no mas.
However, when tapping on a message from the text tab in sence, it does nothing (as it said it would), but there has to be a registry tweak to over come this.
Also, MMS is also no mas! This is a problem for me. I have installed, Arcsoftmms 5.0.31.7.us.cab with not luck. MMS messages go no where.
I have tried Arcsoft MMS composer WWE, also with no luck. This creates the MMS tab under menu/new/ sms or mms. It gives the old Windows CE look of MMS.
Voice command actually reads incoming text messages (which is a plus)
The TellMe app actually sends a dictated text (also a plus) with the Zenyee cab installed.
The lack of MMS is a no deal for me.
So, I recall my HTC HD days with the MIRI ROMS and the Energy ROMS. Miri (as well as Xanny Tech ROMS) roms had an option of ROMS without HTC messaging. These ROMs had the old 2.1 HTC Messaging (everything else M2.5) & WM messaging combined & MMS was present. The energy ROMS actually had both WM & the new HTC messaging enabled (with MMS).
My questions are: is there something I'm missing with this Zenyee cab and enabling MMS? Can I have both HTC messaging & WM messaging with MMS? I would be satisfied with this stock ROM (For now) if answered.
Please Help,
Todd

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The Zenyee Disable HTC Messaging 1.2 cab works as it says it would, ie default back to MS messaging system & the HTC messaging is no mas.
However, when tapping on a message from the text tab in sence, it does nothing (as it said it would), but there has to be a registry tweak to over come this.
Also, MMS is also no mas! This is a problem for me. I have installed, Arcsoftmms 5.0.31.7.us.cab with not luck. MMS messages go no where.
I have tried Arcsoft MMS composer WWE, also with no luck. This creates the MMS tab under menu/new/ sms or mms. It gives the old Windows CE look of MMS.
Voice command actually reads incoming text messages (which is a plus)
The TellMe app actually sends a dictated text (also a plus) with the Zenyee cab installed.
The lack of MMS is a no deal for me.
So, I recall my HTC HD days with the MIRI ROMS and the Energy ROMS. Miri (as well as Xanny Tech ROMS) roms had an option of ROMS without HTC messaging. These ROMs had the old 2.1 HTC Messaging (everything else M2.5) & WM messaging combined & MMS was present. The energy ROMS actually had both WM & the new HTC messaging enabled (with MMS).
My questions are: is there something I'm missing with this Zenyee cab and enabling MMS? Can I have both HTC messaging & WM messaging with MMS? I would be satisfied with this stock ROM (For now) if answered.
Please Help,
Todd
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me too
i would ask how i can delete for ever htc messaging and back to wm sms/mms

blutz said:
1.2 from here works for me, but i cant get it to be threaded..
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My bad, new messages are being threaded from the installation time and onward. I'm happy with this fix.

blutz said:
My bad, new messages are being threaded from the installation time and onward. I'm happy with this fix.
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Do you not have a problem with MMS sending and receiving with this cab installed? Who is your carrier?

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Do you not have a problem with MMS sending and receiving with this cab installed? Who is your carrier?
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I usually post on ppcgeeks but while doing a search, it led me hear and thought to chime in. The standard fix for SMS/MMS issues is to install Zenyees cab to disable messaging, reset, install Picturemail removal cab, reset, and install Arcsoft cab for your carrier. Ever since the 2.5 cooked roms have come out, this has always fixed the sms/mms problems. Tap "all messages" from the messaging screen and you should be good to go. if have previous sms from backup data, it may not all thread but any new messages from here on should be threaded.
hope that helps.

hi any print shot for the final look of how the thread look like?

Anyone having issues with installing the Remove PictureMail & Arcsoft.cab? For some reason it wont install the 12kb
i cant install and disable everything still cannot install Remove PictureMail & Arcsoft.cab
christian.a said:
I usually post on ppcgeeks but while doing a search, it led me hear and thought to chime in. The standard fix for SMS/MMS issues is to install Zenyees cab to disable messaging, reset, install Picturemail removal cab, reset, and install Arcsoft cab for your carrier. Ever since the 2.5 cooked roms have come out, this has always fixed the sms/mms problems. Tap "all messages" from the messaging screen and you should be good to go. if have previous sms from backup data, it may not all thread but any new messages from here on should be threaded.
hope that helps.
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The Arcsoft cab did not work for me on the HD2. it just does not play well with the inbox.
If anyone got this to work, please let us know how

I cannot get HTC Messaging disabled using the 1.2 cab, no matter what the MessagingService.dll seems to load on startup regardless of whether it's entry in HKLM\services\MSG is removed or renamed manually or with the cab. And when I go into the Windows folder to try and rename the file, it tells me I can't as it's loaded into Rom.
I'm on 1.48, could someone point out a fix for this please?

no helper???

There's an SMS Hotfix on the HTC site - maybe it helps?

tmobile hd2 lag usa

hey guys, so i got my tmobile usa hd2 a week ago and so far its been okay, the phone is so beautiful i love the built quality and the sense UI, BUTTTT the sms lags soo bad sometimes, especially when i have a text message coming in, i restart the phone 1 or 2 times a day it sucks.. i wish i could just use the STOCK windows sms threading style when you disable sense.. :/ any fixes for the lag? or is just windows being windows? im kinda being pulled towards returning it and getting the nexus one..hmm

Hello,
I do not have any lag at all.
2 things I suggest:
delete conversations when you are done
clear all deleted items
Thank you,
Monnie

yeah but i shouldnt have to delete all my conversations tho :/ i mean this thing has 3 times the hardware my touch pro has and it never crashed (i dont have touch flo on) bc of the texts unless i had 6k plus texts in my inbox. lol

ryan74701 said:
yeah but i shouldnt have to delete all my conversations tho :/ i mean this thing has 3 times the hardware my touch pro has and it never crashed (i dont have touch flo on) bc of the texts unless i had 6k plus texts in my inbox. lol
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Try the Zenyee Messaging Cab (search XDA; it's posted EVERYWHERE!) to disable HTC Messaging and re-enable WM Messaging.
I don't know if anyone tried it with the stock T-Mo HD2 ROM yet, so I don't know what the results will be like. Just don't blame me if your phone explodes and plunges us into a world war.

lolol thanks

sumflipnol said:
Try the Zenyee Messaging Cab (search XDA; it's posted EVERYWHERE!) to disable HTC Messaging and re-enable WM Messaging.
I don't know if anyone tried it with the stock T-Mo HD2 ROM yet, so I don't know what the results will be like. Just don't blame me if your phone explodes and plunges us into a world war.
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I just installed Zenyee's cab, and the SMS messaging doesn't have a conversation/threaded view. It's the old 6.1 view, but outlook messaging has conversation vew. Am I missing something? I like the threaded view.

Are you sure the windows messaging client isnt threaded? I may be mistaken but I think that when I disable Sense, my messages are still threaded.

davsug said:
I just installed Zenyee's cab, and the SMS messaging doesn't have a conversation/threaded view. It's the old 6.1 view, but outlook messaging has conversation vew. Am I missing something? I like the threaded view.
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The "old 6.1" (WM messaging) client should have the conversation/threaded view. On the top right of the screen there should be a drop-down arrow. Press it and choose either "received" or "conversation".
I have those settings...and I'm using a ROM with the WM messaging client.

Htc messaging Idea

As all of you know the problem of Slow Messaging client in Leo/HD2 ..
i was wondering if our chefs could port messaging application from HD/Blackstone. As before hd2 i had HD. and it never gave me any Trouble with the messaging client. it was fast. Only problem with hd was its Slow Camera.
or if our chefs can make a program to show only 10 or 15 msgs at a time. this will save the time and will help the messaging client to run fast n smoothly.

no one ere is getting trouble with htc messaging client??????????

would like to see that too

you can use energy rom since there is NO CAB yet developed to disable htc messaging and not break other functions...

try this one. u can uninstall it to revert back to default htc messaging client

Doesn't work for me!
clarkdevlin said:
try this one. u can uninstall it to revert back to default htc messaging client
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I have tried this, and whilst it does give you the default WM messaging, which is great, it stops the MMS services from working. (I could see the message, but I couldn't see the picture/attachment, nor could I create an MMS to send). So I ended up uninstalling ZenYee and reverting to the HTC messaging client!

namwollem said:
I have tried this, and whilst it does give you the default WM messaging, which is great, it stops the MMS services from working. (I could see the message, but I couldn't see the picture/attachment, nor could I create an MMS to send). So I ended up uninstalling ZenYee and reverting to the HTC messaging client!
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Thanks for your reviews but zenyee cab does not solve the issue of this thread.
We want wm6.1 sense 2.1 manila mod ported into wm6.5 sense 2.5 manila.
i know everything is totally different in these manila versions but i still think we can extract the messaging application from sense 2.1

No one want this?

Me too I want to know how to change the messaging client

zoombay78 said:
Me too I want to know how to change the messaging client
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i think no one want to use their hd2 as a fast msgs device. all are happy with slow sms application.

Help! My HD2 doesn't "read" my text messages anymore!

I like having my text messages read to me. I went to Start/Settings/Personal/VoiceCommand...made sure "enabled" is checked, same with all the boxes. Under "notifications" I have the "Announce notifications using Bluetooth handsfree if available. Under "Messages" I checked the "Announce new messages". I've done this with my Wing and Touch Pro 2 before. Are you guys having the same issues? I flashed mine ROM last night to the stock 3.14. Thank you for your help.

So I just called T-Mobile tech support, unfortunately it doesn't seem like they know anything about Windows Mobile having that feature. Ugh.

i had to do a hard reset...it's still not working, can someone out there pls help me

3.14 does not read text messages or e-mails if you are using the stock HTC messageing application. This has been covered quite a few times. Search on how to disable HTC messageing and get back to the stock WinMo messageing application and it should work.

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3.14 does not read text messages or e-mails if you are using the stock HTC messageing application. This has been covered quite a few times. Search on how to disable HTC messageing and get back to the stock WinMo messageing application and it should work.
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thank you for your help, i will try that. i disabled HTC sense on my today screen, i will keep trying to research on disabling the htc messaging application. Do you know off hand if it involves downloading a cab or messing with the registry settings (i'm afraid i'll mess up my phone using the latter).

It involves both to completely disable it and regain the ability to have your messages read to you.