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Simple question.
I've read about the new features of the 3rd version of Touch Flo (on the upcoming HTC Touch Pro 2 and Diamond 2) and they are quite interesting.
I just wondered whether by any chance this new version could be installed on the HTC HD (once it's out of course)
Thx
there are already tons of custom roms with this new tf3d
Oh! I wasn't aware of that... have an example so I can test it?
gauthierserkyn said:
Oh! I wasn't aware of that... have an example so I can test it?
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Duttys Roms, Laurentius Roms,...
gauthierserkyn said:
Oh! I wasn't aware of that... have an example so I can test it?
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Think the list is endless. Go to ROM's development forum and seach. I'm currently using Duttys 2.5 Xtreme, though Laurentius & Davideuck are just as commonly used
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there are already tons of custom roms with this new tf3d
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hi...is there any way of getting new touch flo 3 without need of flashing ur phone? any chance of someone making an instalation .cab?
marasp said:
hi...is there any way of getting new touch flo 3 without need of flashing ur phone? any chance of someone making an instalation .cab?
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Go to the "Themes, Applications and Software" and you will found you cab's
excuse me for being a nub but what are the benefits of flashing vs cab install
nowhere to be seen
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Go to the "Themes, Applications and Software" and you will found you cab's
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well... i always do my home work before posting, that is why i did ask question...i could not find any cab, and believe me i spent hours looking throughout our gigantic forum...
if u know location where such cab is hiding from my eyes please share it with us.
There is no "cab" install and there never will be.
This isn't just an application you install on your phone - it's a complete system overhaul, with new TF3D, with all new and / or updated system applications: phone, calendar, contacts, call history, calculator, browser etc.
Let me illustrate however the difference between the stock ROM and the custom cooked ROM's available here on XDA. It's like going from Skoda to latest Ferrari.
That means you'll get a lot of great looking stuff, many cool applications already included, everything will be as new as possible, you'll be running at MUCH faster speed, but you also have to accept that you'll "burn more gas" - battery life may take a small impact.
Is it worth it? Well, it's like you bought a new device, so - yes.
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excuse me for being a nub but what are the benefits of flashing vs cab install
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If you flash a ROM that already includes the new manila it will probably be alot smoother because the ROM will be optimized and tweaked for it! If you install it over the old Manila it probably won't give you the best experience... Also, the newer ROMs not only include the new Manila, but also things like finger-friendly menus!
really is that true???
Rozenthal said:
There is no "cab" install and there never will be.
This isn't just an application you install on your phone - it's a complete system overhaul, with new TF3D, with all new and / or updated system applications: phone, calendar, contacts, call history, calculator, browser etc.
Let me illustrate however the difference between the stock ROM and the custom cooked ROM's available here on XDA. It's like going from Skoda to latest Ferrari.
That means you'll get a lot of great looking stuff, many cool applications already included, everything will be as new as possible, you'll be running at MUCH faster speed, but you also have to accept that you'll "burn more gas" - battery life may take a small impact.
Is it worth it? Well, it's like you bought a new device, so - yes.
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is that really..... so could u explain to us what that is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493531 ..... i think it is possible.... manila is at the end, today screen replacement like the ones of SPB and others.... of course its complicated and incorporated into windows folder but as u can see impossible is nothing here ....
regards
marasp said:
well... i always do my home work before posting, that is why i did ask question...i could not find any cab, and believe me i spent hours looking throughout our gigantic forum...
if u know location where such cab is hiding from my eyes please share it with us.
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I'm pretty new to all this as well and had a lot of difficulty figuring it out! What I think happens is this: The ROM is a bit like the BIOS so you can't modify it within WM6.1. Also, the original ROMs are protected so you can't replace them with an unofficial version (they are signed).
To get around this, you can use something like Hard SPL (which overwrites the existing ROM) or USPL (which works around it).
I finally went with USPL2.5 and Dutty's extreme ROM v2.6.
Incidentally, I'm not really noticing much of a speed improvement... Especially with the music player which now takes a second to load up... Am I meant to?
I see it and it looks like some sort of UI mod for Manila. anyone have ideas? is this HTC or 3rd party/dev add-on?
thanks!!!
sense = manila
and plz. search next time you are a member!
Sense - what the heck is it?
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To be honest, I'm not quite clear either, even after searching, and I've spent many, many hours in this forum. It would be nice to have a clear definition of Manila vs TF3D vs Sense, because all three seem to be used interchangeably in the forum.
I wait to be flamed, but isn't Sense just "tarted up" TouchFlo3D with a new snappier name that makes marketing easier? I imagine "Manila" was the original name (an acronym?) for HTC's (at the time) new interface to overlay the WM interface. So, Manila would mean both TF3D and Sense?
Pete_S said:
It would be nice to have a clear definition of Manila vs TF3D vs Sense, because all three seem to be used interchangeably in the forum.
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There is something to be said about having a general dictionary or list of product names on the forum. There are many names that I don't know and it can take ages to find what they are.
For starters I DID search - plz don't assume something
I do agree that a dictionary of terms would be great.
A breakdown of the convention
TouchFLO: The UI modification designed by HTC.
Manila: Version 2.0 / 2.1 of the TouchFLO UI
Sense: Version 2.5 of the TouchFLO UI
Think of it as codenames, very much like internal build names for the devices.
Touch Diamond 2 = Topaz, for instance, in the same way as TouchFLO 2.1 = Manila and TouchFLO 2.5 = Sense.
DeathJester said:
TouchFLO 2.1 = Manila and TouchFLO 2.5 = Sense.
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I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
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I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
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UAuuuu YOU have TouchFLO 3.0 or TouchFLO3D ? Or you are from the future and made some fun with us?
The last what I see here it's 2.6 I think...not sure...
You can share with us?
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I have TouchFLO 3.0. What is the code name for that (and don't say 'nonsense'!)
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would be so kind and post some screen-shots/photos?
br,
Chris
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would be so kind and post some screen-shots/photos?
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I don't know how to do a screen dump, so I just took a photo:
It's something wrong build 1913.xxxx and the last it's 1920.xxxx and it's 2.5
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It's something wrong build 1913.xxxx and the last it's 1920.xxxx and it's 2.5
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Oh dear! I would not want to upset anyone still busily upgrading to the latest start-of-the-art TouchFLO 2.n by having TouchFLO 3.n
This is the standard TouchFLO for T-Mobile written by HTC. Maybe they started new numbering for T-Mobile? Does the build number you quote relate to all TouchFLO versions or just the TouchFLO 2.n versions?
Manila 2.1 is now called HTC Sense in the new 6.5 upgrade ROMs.
Sense is (AFAIK) the "My Location" bit of Manila that allows you to display the weather for my location on the today screen, it's also the code name for the HTC Hero interface that first demostrated weather on the Today screen.
The first Manila 2.1 didn't have sense, but then it was added so it's manila 2.1+Sense, manila 2.5 has always had it.
Dave
Right, I hope everyone's clear on that now
So, extracting from the various posts:
1. TouchFLO was the first HTC interface add-on to WM.
2. Manila was the second HTC interface. It became known popularly as TouchFlo3D or TF3D for short.
3. Sense is an update for Manila which includes "location awareness". It has also replaced TF3D as the popular name for Manila since v2.5
So, Manila is still Manila, but it's known popularly as Sense now rather than TF3D?
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The first Manila 2.1 didn't have sense
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Hee Hee, that's nonsense then ...
Sorry, Dave, feel free to ban me for life for that dreadful joke
Manila - Finger Friendly Graphic User Interface - this is platform
Touch Flo - The Interface Plug-in for visualization of Manila platform
Sense - the same as Touch Flo but new release
So this is good, in this single thread I am able to get a better understanding of each of the versions of UI.
there also OS versions and I assume that TF3D, Manila, and Sense are bound to min versions?
Microsoft has released the following over the last 18 months:
WM 6.1 - mostly found on non-touch devices but I understand has Touch support
WM 6.5 (Windows Phone branded lunch) - fully Touch aware albeit mostly still has the small buttons like "OK" or "X" or "CLOSE" these are not fingure friendly although the UI does fully support Touch devices.
WM 6.5.1 - NOT RELEASED. this is the name MS us using for an Interim release (between 6.5 and 7.0) this release will fix many bugs and update the UI to with the "Fat Finger" tabs instead of the little "were is my stylus!" buttons. there are a few ROMs out there that have these features and they dramatically improve the usability (IMHO). I am running build 32502.x1 (Shadowline - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526618&highlight=23502) and also Optimal Champious (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573896&highlight=23502). the first has Sense, the second does not (no Manila/Sense).
WM 7.0 - NOT RELEASED. According to my Microsoft contacts will be a complete consumer friendly UI. I suspect this is going to be positioned as the optimal iPhone competitor along with a slew of new devices. My thought is the LEO (albeit big) with WM 7.0 will rock. There is no date but I would bet this come out in late summer/fall of 2010. think about MS cycles for other consumer projects. you need to hit the holiday season or wait till next year.
IF you are still running the stock WM 6.5 that came with your ATT Pure, I recommened (but caution if you are not comfortable and know the risk of 'bricking' your phone is possible) that you check out the new builds. 23502.X or greater like OC, Shadowline builds have been running on my devices for almost a week and they are much improved over the stock.
I only wish there was an iphone like (for fat fingers) keyboard out there.
Just to add, there are lots of great keyboards out there and I have tried a couple of them. I am thinking the screen size on the Topaz is the reason why vs. the iphone.
Apologies if I am asking a very silly question but I have noticed that one of the main difference between the TD2 & HD2 Home screen seems to be that on the latter you can place shortcuts to frequently used apps whilst on the former you do not appear to be able to do so.
Is this because I am missing something being a newbie, and if so could some one point me in the right direct OR is this in fact the case but there is a tweak somewhere out there athat allows one to do this on a TD2?
I very much like the TF3D interface apart from the apparent lack of being above to place shortcuts to favorite apps on that Home screen.
Again apologies if this is a silly question...but am just starting out in the world of TF3D.
Cheers
Balders
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Apologies if I am asking a very silly question but I have noticed that one of the main difference between the TD2 & HD2 Home screen seems to be that on the latter you can place shortcuts to frequently used apps whilst on the former you do not appear to be able to do so.
Is this because I am missing something being a newbie, and if so could some one point me in the right direct OR is this in fact the case but there is a tweak somewhere out there athat allows one to do this on a TD2?
I very much like the TF3D interface apart from the apparent lack of being above to place shortcuts to favorite apps on that Home screen.
Again apologies if this is a silly question...but am just starting out in the world of TF3D.
Cheers
Balders
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WM6.5 for TD2 has 9 shortcuts on home screen.
To increase to 16 or 20 shortcuts there is Max manila themes.
Hi Bruce
Thanks for the prompt reply but some further questions if I may?
"WM6.5 for TD2 has 9 shortcuts on home screen." Is this in addition to the tab 'strip' that one can scroll through and then select a specific tab to display? If so then how do I nominate/get a user defined app to display on the Home screen?
"To increase to 16 or 20 shortcuts there is Max manila themes." What is max manila Themes and how do I get hold of it/install it (if that is what one needs to do)?
Many th anks in anticpation of your patience & time in helping a TF3d newbie.
Cheers
Balders
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Hi Bruce
Thanks for the prompt reply but some further questions if I may?
"WM6.5 for TD2 has 9 shortcuts on home screen." Is this in addition to the tab 'strip' that one can scroll through and then select a specific tab to display? If so then how do I nominate/get a user defined app to display on the Home screen?
"To increase to 16 or 20 shortcuts there is Max manila themes." What is max manila Themes and how do I get hold of it/install it (if that is what one needs to do)?
Many th anks in anticpation of your patience & time in helping a TF3d newbie.
Cheers
Balders
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The shortcuts eliminated the Program tab. This is not available in 6.5 to my knowledge.
Find a WM6.5 Rom and you will be able to select your shortcuts the same way as you used to do in the programs tab. Just click on blank box and it pulls up a list.
For Max Manila theme, start here.
Hi Bruce
Thanks for your further response...and apologies for mine in responding to it but I am in the run up to Xmas and reaping the 'benefits' of being in a service industry.
Have read the link on Max manila but do not quite understand what the app is and how it is installed. Is it just a tweaker applciation or does it make fundemental changes to the stock installation from HTC that comes with the phone? Is uninstallation just that, ie, like any other application, and the device reverts to the stockset up before Max Manila was installed?
Apologies for the further questions. IF you do not have the time to respond in detail perhaps you could point me to a summary of Max manial, who it works, is installed, etc., if you know of such a resource.
Many thanks in advance for any further assistance that you are able to provide.
Regards
Balders
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Hi Bruce
Thanks for your further response...and apologies for mine in responding to it but I am in the run up to Xmas and reaping the 'benefits' of being in a service industry.
Have read the link on Max manila but do not quite understand what the app is and how it is installed. Is it just a tweaker applciation or does it make fundemental changes to the stock installation from HTC that comes with the phone? Is uninstallation just that, ie, like any other application, and the device reverts to the stockset up before Max Manila was installed?
Apologies for the further questions. IF you do not have the time to respond in detail perhaps you could point me to a summary of Max manial, who it works, is installed, etc., if you know of such a resource.
Many thanks in advance for any further assistance that you are able to provide.
Regards
Balders
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Basically Max Manila is a theme that installs over your manila and is completely uninstallable. What it does is gives you options for changing your clocks, addding more shortcuts, background for all tabs, etc.
Installing and uninstalling does not wipe any data, it is only for appearances and functionality.
You just find the cab that matches your manila build, but mostly it will be either the max 2.5 or 2.6 that work on your device. If it hoses up your phone and doesn't work, you just uninstall and try another version.
Sorry I can't be more complete but I too am suffering from year end woes as I am in Finance.
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Basically Max Manila is a theme that installs over your manila and is completely uninstallable. What it does is gives you options for changing your clocks, addding more shortcuts, background for all tabs, etc.
Installing and uninstalling does not wipe any data, it is only for appearances and functionality.
You just find the cab that matches your manila build, but mostly it will be either the max 2.5 or 2.6 that work on your device. If it hoses up your phone and doesn't work, you just uninstall and try another version.
Sorry I can't be more complete but I too am suffering from year end woes as I am in Finance.
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Hi Bruce
Thanks for the reply in spite of being set too with Year End.
I think that I have got the basics and as it is completely uninstallable I will be brave and give it a try. Interestingly enough if I am correct my TD2 uses Manila 2.1919xxx rather than 2.5xxxxxxx and so it look slike I am stuck with the first of the CABs given in one of the post in the thread that you have provided. If there are owners with Manila 2.5xxxxxxx loaded as standar on their TD2 then it looks like I have been unlucky...but there you go.
Have a great Festive break...and thanks again for your help.
Cheers
Balders
Glad I could help.
Have a great holiday too.
Manila Version
Hi
This is exactly what I have been looking for. However I dont know what my manila version is.
My ROM is the standard Uk T-Mobile 6.5 ROM.
I tried looking in the ABOUT settings, but that just has version numbers for os
it says CE OS 5.2.21854 (Build 21854.5.0.80)
I maybe being a bit of a doughnut here, but looking at the above.... is 2.21854 the Manila version?
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Hi
This is exactly what I have been looking for. However I dont know what my manila version is.
My ROM is the standard Uk T-Mobile 6.5 ROM.
I tried looking in the ABOUT settings, but that just has version numbers for os
it says CE OS 5.2.21854 (Build 21854.5.0.80)
I maybe being a bit of a doughnut here, but looking at the above.... is 2.21854 the Manila version?
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Hi there
I have had trouble finding out the Manila version on my TD2 but believe that manila 2.5 is only officially, ie, by HTC ROM, for the Leo or HD2. Therefore it suggests that your official stock ROM is at Manila 2.1...like mine.
Will post back if I can find a way of finding the actual Manila version displayed.
Cheers
Balders
Hi Bruce
Max Manila Theme for 2.1 successfully installed but I have a couple of small questions...if you would be kin enough to spare me the time:
1. Can this be installed on the SD card or must it be/is it better to install to the Device?
2. Is there any way of customising the settings that are shipped with MMT for 2.1? In the thread I have seen options but I am wondering of this is for the 2.5 version rather than the one that I am limited to given my Manila version.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Balders
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Hi Bruce
Max Manila Theme for 2.1 successfully installed but I have a couple of small questions...if you would be kin enough to spare me the time:
1. Can this be installed on the SD card or must it be/is it better to install to the Device?
2. Is there any way of customising the settings that are shipped with MMT for 2.1? In the thread I have seen options but I am wondering of this is for the 2.5 version rather than the one that I am limited to given my Manila version.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Balders
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Hey Baldrick,
1. Install to device, it will not run from storage card.
2. Most development is continuing on the 2.5 and beyond. Some of the list of files are for 2.1, they should be identified as such but I don't recall.
Try a few clocks, backgrounds etc. if they don't work, you can always uninstall.
**Important**- ANYTHING that interfaces with your Home screen, contact programs, themes, clocks, any customizations must be installed on the device.
Happy Holidays.
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Hey Baldrick,
1. Install to device, it will not run from storage card.
2. Most development is continuing on the 2.5 and beyond. Some of the list of files are for 2.1, they should be identified as such but I don't recall.
Try a few clocks, backgrounds etc. if they don't work, you can always uninstall.
**Important**- ANYTHING that interfaces with your Home screen, contact programs, themes, clocks, any customizations must be installed on the device.
Happy Holidays.
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Hi Bruce
Thanks for that. Have installed on the device...was just a thought.
Having trouble identifying add ons for 2.1 as most seem to be for 2.5, obviously...and I have not plan to install a 2.5 ROM.
Obviously the Settings options are new for 2.5 rather than 2.1...which is a shame but there you go. Can't even find the MMT folder under which you are supposed to install further customisations but I dare say I will take some time over the break to check my phone more carefully.
Thanks for your help.
Happy Holidays to you to!!!!
Ok so I know I'll always have unlimited wallpaper options.
But with this whole TouchFlo 3d thing being new to me obviously the world I know of the old home screens have changed a little. (yes I know I can disable touchflo and have the old back...but I like touchflo).
So I am trying to make sense of what my theme options are for my phone
Tmobile Touch Pro 2 with stock tmobile rom (phone purchased 2 weeks ago)
Windows 6.1
Touch Flo 3D version 2.1
plenty of memory
So what I am asking is a pretty newbish question despite me being a windows mobile user for 6 years.
How the hell do I get new themes now. The whole manila utility has me confused its apparant i cant use it but every theme i seem to find is a manila theme, or it is meant for a WVGA phone like the diamond.
So where can I find some that are Touchflo 3d 2.1 friendly and how do I go about installing them now.
Thanks fellas/ladies hope i dont take up too much of your time with this question
A couple of items you should note:
1. The Touch Diamond's resolution is VGA. The Touch Diamond2 and the Touch Pro2's resolutions are WVGA.
2. Manila and TouchFlo3D basically are used interchangeably.
That said, I've given up on manila themes for now. There are too many manila versions. There's 2.0 (without the weather on the home tab), there's 2.1 (with weather on the home tab), there's 2.5 (ported from HD2), and now there's new versions of 2.5 with documents tab...
Anyway, I suppose the advice is that if the theme is packaged into a cab file, give it a try. If it looks funny on your device, then it's not fully compatible with your manila version. Just uninstall it.
Also, it may be worthwhile to have a look at the link in my signature...
I knew I switched WVGA and VGA thanks for that clarification.
And essentially my options without manila are try and find a theme in a cab otherwise I'll struggle.
I read that manila is not compatable with touchflo 3D 2.1 and above. Or am I missing the whole point of how manila works?
For all intents and purposes, "manila" and "TouchFlo3D" are the same.
"TouchFlo3D" was the marketing term used for the HTC custom interface.
"Manila" is HTC's codename for "TouchFlo3D".
"TouchFlo3D" has since been re-branded as "HTC Sense" to be consistent with their custom UI for their Android devices.
In terms of compatibility, as alluded to before, it depends on the version of Manila on your device and the version the theme was made for.
Are there specific release threads somewhere on here for each version from the creator? I keep constantly running into edits and things like that but I cant find the specific release threads. Thanks for your help so far
I also have the same device only difference is I am running windows 6.5. Just yesterday I downloaded a theme from this same forum. The dusk theme. You'll find it just a page or to past this post. Very simple a lot of cab files. The only trouble Im having is installing the windows media and weather program. But take a look pretty cool theme.
Extracting Theme from another ROM
Ok, so I have a different question. Suppose that I like a theme/icons from one ROM, but like the features/performance from another ROM (and assume they are the same version of sense (2.5 with docs tab.)) Is there a way to extract the theme from the ROM and apply that theme to the other ROM that is installed?
Thanks!!
Ok so the dusk theme is pretty independent (looks like it has manila built in) that should be all I need to start off?
Searching for those strings wont result in any finds, or results in only custom ROM crap. (sigh)
Ok, im trying to find some stuff for Manila 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE. it just doesnt seem to exist... or at least i cant find it.
I want to know what tabs are included with the 15 Tabs mod, and where to get them.
I would like the stock TP1 Neon slider icons, saw a guy on XDA that had them, but cant find the files.
You made me laugh Manilla 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE does NOT excist. Manilla = Sense...
Manilla 2.1 is called sense.
Manilla 2.5 is called sense.
Wow, really? Then your an idiot too! TP1's have Manila 2.0 and WinMo 6.1, TP2 has Manila 2.1 (no Sense) and WinMo 6.1 stock....
SOME versions of 6.1 come with Sense, but not Sprint, and i believe 2.5 Sense comes with WinMo 6.5...
Talon,
Try searching for Manila TF3D v. 2.1
(Which Lenny, is not the same thing as Sense 2.1)
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Wow, really? Then your an idiot too! TP1's have Manila 2.0 and WinMo 6.1, TP2 has Manila 2.1 (no Sense) and WinMo 6.1 stock....
SOME versions of 6.1 come with Sense, but not Sprint, and i believe 2.5 Sense comes with WinMo 6.5...
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dont be so rude dude, htc has renamed manila to sense. so its sense 2.1 and 2.5
Hold ur fire!! This make me a little confused too. So what's real difference between Manila & Sense??
Both posters are correct. TF3D originally was called manilla. HTC Sense is technically the upgraded version of TF3D. Most people simply refer to HTC's GUI as Sense instead of manilla or TF3D.
Since many of the roms here are from HTC hero,hd2 etc etc, they are using the newer Sense GUI.
Original roms, use the manilla GUI, which was been re-marketed also as Sense. So manilla/TF3D was renamed Sense 2.1. Sense 2.5 is the original Sense which was first on the HD2 and HTC Hero.
This will help some.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchFLO_3D
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Talon,
Try searching for Manila TF3D v. 2.1
(Which Lenny, is not the same thing as Sense 2.1)
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Using any numbers in the search (simple or advanced) gains only an error, which is why i posted. Try searching for '15 tabs' and itll go to the advanced search page with 'No results'...
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dont be so rude dude, htc has renamed manila to sense. so its sense 2.1 and 2.5
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Well, you remain wrong on that
Mektah said:
Both posters are correct. TF3D originally was called manilla. HTC Sense is technically the upgraded version of TF3D. Most people simply refer to HTC's GUI as Sense instead of manilla or TF3D.
Since many of the roms here are from HTC hero,hd2 etc etc, they are using the newer Sense GUI.
Original roms, use the manilla GUI, which was been re-marketed also as Sense. So manilla/TF3D was renamed Sense 2.1. Sense 2.5 is the original Sense which was first on the HD2 and HTC Hero.
This will help some.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TouchFLO_3D
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I disagree a little, there IS a difference between Manila 2.1 and 2.1 w/Sense. Try putting a Sense item on regular 2.1 and watch it break. I tried PPCgeeks.com to sort out the TP2 stuff, got much support, but they didnt do anything about it. When you ask for customized stuff, everyone assumes youre using a cooked version of 6.5 (which has Sense 2.1 or 2.5 depending the ROM/Chef), not 6.1, and then the Manila version gets even more in the way of stuff.
I mean i like my TP2, it works like the TP1 should have, but the TP1 had so much more support for the stock ROM's and 6.1.
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Searching for those strings wont result in any finds, or results in only custom ROM crap. (sigh)
Ok, im trying to find some stuff for Manila 2.1 WITHOUT SENSE. it just doesnt seem to exist... or at least i cant find it.
I want to know what tabs are included with the 15 Tabs mod, and where to get them.
I would like the stock TP1 Neon slider icons, saw a guy on XDA that had them, but cant find the files.
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For the neon slider icons, try either or both of the cabs I attached here, they might be what you're thinking of. If not, they uninstall easily.
I've also had trouble finding a bunch of TF3D 2.1 compatible sliders etc, it's clear that the bulk of the interest and efforts here now are sense 2.5-related. I think you might have a little better luck googling (not through XDA) for "TF3D 2.1" than "sense 2.1"...I've found that most of the stuff you're looking for to be tagged that way.
brent372 has put together a website that does a great job of explaining and displaying the differences between TF3D 2.1 and Sense 2.1, and he has a fair amount of customizations for each, particularly sliders/icons...check it out HERE
sirphunkee said:
For the neon slider icons, try either or both of the cabs I attached here, they might be what you're thinking of. If not, they uninstall easily.
I've also had trouble finding a bunch of TF3D 2.1 compatible sliders etc, it's clear that the bulk of the interest and efforts here now are sense 2.5-related. I think you might have a little better luck googling (not through XDA) for "TF3D 2.1" than "sense 2.1"...I've found that most of the stuff you're looking for to be tagged that way.
brent372 has put together a website that does a great job of explaining and displaying the differences between TF3D 2.1 and Sense 2.1, and he has a fair amount of customizations for each, particularly sliders/icons...check it out HERE
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Yea ive seen Brents work, but its all 'skinned' stock icons, or the goofy looking 6.5 icons. Still nice stuff though.
Thanks for your help
Talon Pro, please be kind, especially to folks that are trying to help you. Thanks SirPhunkee for your help here... and everyone else that took a shot at it.
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Talon Pro, please be kind, especially to folks that are trying to help you. Thanks SirPhunkee for your help here... and everyone else that took a shot at it.
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No problem, it's worth a try anyway
Talon Pro said:
Yea ive seen Brents work, but its all 'skinned' stock icons, or the goofy looking 6.5 icons. Still nice stuff though.
Thanks for your help
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Did either of the neon sliders end up being the one you're looking for?
Since you're running TF3D 2.1, you can easily build your own sliders using HDWalls, and you can use just about any images you want for the icons...the app does a great job of resizing them as needed and building a cab to install the whole slider for you.
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No problem, it's worth a try anyway
Did either of the neon sliders end up being the one you're looking for?
Since you're running TF3D 2.1, you can easily build your own sliders using HDWalls, and you can use just about any images you want for the icons...the app does a great job of resizing them as needed and building a cab to install the whole slider for you.
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Yes it was the one i wanted. Now im looking for a taskbar of the same lol. I didnt know that HDWalls was a program, thought it was just a 'image on all tabs' thing.
Thanks.
How come none of the stock Icon sets i can find, dont have the Navigation icon? The Neon set above has a 'layered' one, meaning it sets it over top the grey icon (off center though).
Oh, and the HDWalls is working nicely, got two icons done so far
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How come none of the stock Icon sets i can find, dont have the Navigation icon? The Neon set above has a 'layered' one, meaning it sets it over top the grey icon (off center though).
Oh, and the HDWalls is working nicely, got two icons done so far
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Navigation Icon? I don't have a 'navigation' tab on my 6.1, so I'm guessing that it's not part of the regular set of tabs and therefore there's not a provision for it in the usual list of manila files for the icons.
If you (or somebody) can just pin down the exact name of the manila file for that specfic tab's icons, you can use HDWalls to create one (for a different tab), and then just rename it to match the odd manila file related to the nav. tab. Let me know if that makes sense...I can do it better than I can describe it lol
I have the Touch Pro2 which still has TF3D 2.1 (non-sense lol).
How do i go about locating it? I know the files are in the Windows folder, but how to view them? Guess ill do some google searching too.
I also want the comm manager tab and the programs tab back, that was on the TP1...
Try CFC GUI and make your icons: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470798
Have never heard of a navigation tab though, but if exists, you'll be able to find it with CFC GUI