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that just looks like mapking /papago screen.. cant prove that it has internal GPS.
What is your source.
BTW: the gps-antenna plug on 3300 looks just like the antenna plug on p3600 But that might just a for saving money on connectors though...
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Find this from chinese web site...........................
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The picture shows only 5 received sattellites and no fix!! Not very promising...
The shown device has no brand. It could be a Dopod test device.
Read this threat for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1071782&postcount=140
operator settings
neofix said:
BTW: the gps-antenna plug on 3300 looks just like the antenna plug on p3600 But that might just a for saving money on connectors though...
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hello
Did your p3600 come with a operator wizard for settings for t-mobile etc?
XenoV said:
The picture shows only 5 received sattellites and no fix!! Not very promising...
The shown device has no brand. It could be a Dopod test device.
Read this threat for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1071782&postcount=140
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depends from many factors that... inside my house also my Globalsat with Sirf Star 3 doesn't fix and get sattellites.
a picture that shows satellite reception means nothing especially when there are many Bluetooth GPSr. Sure my O2 Mini can show you that page as well
Thus it can neither prove or disprove the availability of GPS
There are 2 version of Trinity, one has GPS and the other one don't
So, in that case, how does one know which version has GPS?
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There are 2 version of Trinity, one has GPS and the other one don't
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Without a source this is just pure fiction.
At least the previous poster provided a picture, lets try and keep to facts or rumours with some form of source, what do you think?
remixme said:
Without a source this is just pure fiction.
At least the previous poster provided a picture, lets try and keep to facts or rumours with some form of source, what do you think?
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here, the GPS is 35519......
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here, the GPS is 35519......
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That last number is the IMEI number, as far as I know it says nothing about the model number.
My Dutch device is:
Modelnr: TRIN100 (which is the same)
Platform: PocketPC
IMEI: 35942.....
My device is:
Modelnr: TRIN10000
Platform: PocketPC
IMEI: 35942.....
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My device is:
Modelnr: TRIN10000
Platform: PocketPC
IMEI: 35942.....
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Here you can the structure of the IMEI-code.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMEI
You can analyse the code here:
http://www.numberingplans.com/?page=analysis&sub=imeinr
I think the only different between the IMEI on the photo is the remainder of the TAC and the unique serial number.
For my Europe/Dutch model:
Est. Date of Range Issuance Around Q1 2006
Reporting Body British Approvals Board of Telecommunications (BABT)
Primary Market Europe
Legal Basis for Allocation EU R&TTE Directive
How does the IMEI number relate to the possibility of GPS-function (which is the topic in this thread)?
Manne said:
How does the IMEI number relate to the possibility of GPS-function (which is the topic in this thread)?
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As far as I'm concerned It doesn't, and if it did, which I seriously doubt, then nt007 has not provided any clear evidence or explanation.
nt007 if you have something concrete and definite info on this, I'd love to hear it and would be grateful to you for it. if not please stop phrasing your topics in a way that misleads.
I agree with Remixme... Saying that the imei has anything to do with GPS-functionality is most likely not true. This because the imei is made for a purpose, and that purpose is not to identify this type of functionality...
The rumour about 2 different types of P3600, one with and one without GPS, started in the Netherlands I think. Somebody send an e-mail to a internetshop which claimed there was no GPS in the Dutch P3600 versions.
I think this makes no sense. Because it's cheaper for HTC to produce only phones with all the same hardware. But because there is still no centainty the GPS functionallity will be availible, shops and HTC do not dare to say there is a GPS functionallity build in.
I don't wanna disappoint you but take a look at here:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5860.html
I don't have one of these yet but am thinking about getting one soon.... i was going to get the Dopod 838pro but not sure i need the qwerty keyboard.... plus i like the idea of a gps and fm radio.
So, to my question, do you think HTC/Dopod will ever release a ROM that will allow the trinity to "be all that it can be"- ie- use gps, fm radio etc.
Should we be buying this product on this hope?
Thanks
HTC will definately do something about it since pressure from iPhone is coming... but not sure about Trinity. If you can wait, get iPhone
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If you can wait, get iPhone
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oh no, now the Apple cult is going to spoil mobile phone forums too.
yeah the iphone does look awesome... pity i hate ipods...... at this stage the iphone is not 3G. When it does become 3G it would be great..... i suppose i will have to buy a mac for it to work properly.....
One good hting about the iphone coming out, as you said is that the other companies will stop being so greedy and actually release a phone that does everything- eg. the trinity is meant to be all in one but they didnt activate it all..... maybe now they will have to!!!
Yes. I think i will wait and see what everyone comes up with.......
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I don't have one of these yet but am thinking about getting one soon.... i was going to get the Dopod 838pro but not sure i need the qwerty keyboard.... plus i like the idea of a gps and fm radio.
So, to my question, do you think HTC/Dopod will ever release a ROM that will allow the trinity to "be all that it can be"- ie- use gps, fm radio etc.
Should we be buying this product on this hope?
Thanks
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GPS
FM radio
more configurable hardware button (e.g. start, ok button)
no fm radio on trinity board
...but i really want fm radio!
I'm sure i've spotted within another thread a picture of the board inside the artemis and trinity which basically showed them to be v similar... and an fm chip on the trinity board.
i'm going to be getting a trinity - probably the m700 when it hits the shops in london - but don't understand this fm radio thing (it would complete the product!)
does the dopod model not have fm radio on it's variant? if so, surely all trinity's do, no? is a variant not all about branding and software as opposed to the actual tecky stuff inside?
also, supposing the trinity doesn't have this fm chip... can we not get a plug which has the tuner on it then we just install some kind of software? - i'm thinking of these ipod remote controllers which give an ipod radio functionality.
great to see the gps problem solved - even if by way of leaked room - but lets finalise the trinity with an fm radio too!!
Has anyone ever thought about whether it would be possible to increase the ram/upgrade memory in a G1. As outlandish as this might sound.. similar things have been done for a variety of devices.... if possible it would probably be the number one speed booster out there? or are there certain limitations out there that would make that impossible... Anyone ever opened up a G1?
This might be what you are looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566410
Theres some ram on the g1 that isnt being utilized by default.. this hack, for specific roms, can push the g1 to use more of the rom that it initially comes with. as far as a PHYSICAL upgrade im not too sure how that would work out.. never opened a g1, due to warranty void
This does happen a lot nowadays. Original Xbox's (before v1.6) had extra 'spaces' for RAM chips.
Simple to do, if you can find the right RAM for your device, which was hard enough for the Xbox until a German manufacturer was found.
http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Upgrading_Xbox_RAM_HOWTO
Edit: Also remember, this only works if there is an extra 'space,' piggybacking does not work 99% of the time (and I doubt there would be enough space within the housing...)
so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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no it has to be the same type maybe hero/magic ram would work who knows
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so the question would be is there anyway to open the g1 remove a ram chip and solder on a higher capacity one.... I mean wouldnt that be awesome...
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I was actually referring to how the Xbox got more RAM, by adding ANOTHER RAM chip. Possibly higher capacity would work, but I don't know **** about drivers or software compatability blahblahblah. I'm only good for actually putting it together not knowing how it works :3
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I was actually referring to how the Xbox got more RAM, by adding ANOTHER RAM chip. Possibly higher capacity would work, but I don't know **** about drivers or software compatability blahblahblah. I'm only good for actually putting it together not knowing how it works :3
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There is nowhere to put it.
Ram and rom come integrated on the same chip: samsung k522f1gacm-a060
You need to find a compatible chip (as mentioned, the one from magic or hero *might* be compatible), you also need to program it with something... which you may need to hack together since there is no such thing as a dream with 256MB ram, etc.
hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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Good idea
alec.baldwin said:
hmmm....ok... so not possible to replace the chip flash a custom rom? Maybe we can have some bricked g1's donated to see what can be done...
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I never said it wasn't possible. I simply said that what is there must necessarily COME OFF in order to put another one in its place.
And yes, you most definitely CAN program these chips outside the board, as long as you have the right equipment to do so, but the big question is to "program it with WHAT?".
Well according to this video our phone uses standard DDR ram made by Samsung. So I belive this is very possible.
Anyone wanna donate a bricked phone for tinkering hehe.
http://pockethacks.com/htc-g1-disassembly/
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Well according to this video our phone uses standard DDR ram made by Samsung. So I belive this is very possible.
Anyone wanna donate a bricked phone for tinkering hehe.
http://pockethacks.com/htc-g1-disassembly/
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As lbcoder has stated, finding a compatible chip isn't the problem.. it's a matter of what do you program onto the chip? Simply replacing the current chip with a blank one wouldn't do anything.
WELL, I don't know if this will work but I tune cars, where you use a eeprom reader get a dump off the old chip into a hex editor and then just burn it onto a new chip with changes made and just stick the new chip with new maps on it.
Would it be possible to do something like this with this chip? Just do a complete dump of one to another?
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WELL, I don't know if this will work but I tune cars, where you use a eeprom reader get a dump off the old chip into a hex editor and then just burn it onto a new chip with changes made and just stick the new chip with new maps on it.
Would it be possible to do something like this with this chip? Just do a complete dump of one to another?
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Yea thats the way it would be done. You'd have to hex-edit the dumped rom to address the right amount of memory for the new chip and it should work. I'm certainly not going to be trying this myself but it would be an interesting experiment.
Anyone know someone who has the smarts to do that... find me someone and I'll find you a few bricked g1s ...probably the only way to get them unbricked anyway.... or I have a g1 here whose wifi does not work. I bet you there are a ton of g1s out there where this or that does not work but that would be fully suited for something like that.
Anyway lets find a genius or a few that are brave enough to go where no one has gone before... I'd be pretty certain, that twice or four times the Ram would be a pretty dramatic experience.... imagine the possibilities with ram discs.... etc...
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Anyone know someone who has the smarts to do that... find me someone and I'll find you a few bricked g1s ...probably the only way to get them unbricked anyway.... or I have a g1 here whose wifi does not work. I bet you there are a ton of g1s out there where this or that does not work but that would be fully suited for something like that.
Anyway lets find a genius or a few that are brave enough to go where no one has gone before... I'd be pretty certain, that twice or four times the Ram would be a pretty dramatic experience.... imagine the possibilities with ram discs.... etc...
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Believe it or not guys, my wife can do this. LOL. (I did marry the perfect woman, she also fixes my cars, folds the laundry and gives the best blowjob on earth). I digress <grin>.
If someone wants to donate a couple of bricked phones, I can get the chips swapped out. The issue of hex editing doesn't scare me at all I've been doing that for years, but finding the right addresses could be interesting. I'd probably need help with that as it is a lot different then bipassing a cd check on a video game
i work with embedded devices and here are my 2c about this, but take this lightly, I havent looked at how the G1 is setup on a board yet, nor do I know what hardware it is running.
if there is external ram, then perhaps it is a matter of swapping out the chips, given that they have the same pinout/packaging, etc.. if that was the case, you wouldnt get even another bit of more addressing because to get another bit, another wire is required to address it.
if the ram is internal on the microcontroller, then it would need to be swapped out, and good luck desoldering/soldering a BGA chip by hand. if you manage to find a new MCU with more internal ram to put on, the pinouts would have to be identical or else things might not work. additionally, you would need to have some method to kind of bootstrap the MCU because they typically come blank from the manufacturer.
Ok this is getting interesting... the easiest way to find out is probably contact HTC.. does anyone know someone, or is there a way to contact an engineer... or can anyone look up the specs? If it is using standard ddram by Samsung.. there might be a possibility.
Let me see what I can find for bricked G1's than we might have redir's wife take a look at it.. or John5788, if you'd volunteer. PM me your contact info...
We could just check the service manual, no?
edit: i tried to upload it, but the upload script here blows..
mediafire to the rescue! [download service manual here]
i just looked through the service manual, nothing specific about the ram/mcu locations. everything is just located on the mainboard without any sort of diagram. the people that look at the service manual dont need to know the device at that sort of hardware level.
Hi all... apologies if this has been discussed... I did a search but couldn't find anything.
Is there a way to add a 1700MHz antenna to the streak hardware?
I figure since they made a few of the streaks with the 1700MHz antenna, there might be a way?
I also thought I would email the guys who did the tear down of the streak to get their opinion.
Thanks for any help.
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I would like to know as well if there is such possibilities.
I am looking into buying a 2100/1700/900 antenna and seeing if someone in phone repair knows how to solder it in place... will let you know if I have any success!
thx
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I am looking into buying a 2100/1700/900 antenna and seeing if someone in phone repair knows how to solder it in place... will let you know if I have any success!
thx
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+1 on the need to know. Thanks in advance
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I am looking into buying a 2100/1700/900 antenna and seeing if someone in phone repair knows how to solder it in place... will let you know if I have any success!
thx
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I sure would like to know xexes!
Thank you!
There's been a lot of buzz about a T-Mo version over the last week and alot more just since yesterday. It looks like it might be released soon.
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There's been a lot of buzz about a T-Mo version over the last week and alot more just since yesterday. It looks like it might be released soon.
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Streakr, you mean the 7" Streak or the 5 inch one?
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Streakr, you mean the 7" Streak or the 5 inch one?
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Jenn on streak smart made a similar comment... "1) there's a string of evidence that a T-Mobile version of the existing Streak will eventually be released," in the 12-26 post at www.streaksmart.com
She doesn't give any details about what the "string of evidence" is... so I'm not sure what she's talking about... have you guys heard anything?
Maybe they will announce something at CES... I have so far not been able to make contact with anyone about soldering in a new AWS antenna... and may wait to see what happens next week.
If they are going to release a 5" Streak with Tmo I will wait... not sure about the 7" which apparently will be available thru Tmo from the get go... I had a Galaxy Tab for a while and altho I loved it... it was kind of big to carry around all the time... maybe the Dell will be lighter or thinner, who knows.
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Jenn on streak smart made a similar comment... "1) there's a string of evidence that a T-Mobile version of the existing Streak will eventually be released," in the 12-26 post at www.streaksmart.com
She doesn't give any details about what the "string of evidence" is... so I'm not sure what she's talking about... have you guys heard anything?
Maybe they will announce something at CES... I have so far not been able to make contact with anyone about soldering in a new AWS antenna... and may wait to see what happens next week.
If they are going to release a 5" Streak with Tmo I will wait... not sure about the 7" which apparently will be available thru Tmo from the get go... I had a Galaxy Tab for a while and altho I loved it... it was kind of big to carry around all the time... maybe the Dell will be lighter or thinner, who knows.
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I sure keep my eye on streaksmart.com. And did read Jenn mentioning about TMo-US version of Streak, but that's about it.
I really want Streak to work with TMo which it does but EDGE is too slow.
Lets see what happens in next few days at CES.
Also, where would to get this "AWS Antenna"?
My thought is to get a broken phone with the right kind of antenna... it's kind of a long shot I know, in terms of it fitting in the Streak case... also, I note by googling that the antennas are attached to a cable, so soldering might not be the way.
I will wait to see what happens at CES and if there is no 5" Streak with Tmo antennas, then I will contact the guys that did the Streak tear down (and lots of other cell phone teardowns) to see if replacing the antenna with one that has 1700/2100 MHz is possible... since Dell made some of the units that way, somehow it must be... but I'm not sure if it would take that exact antenna or if another one could be used somehow... that is the question.
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My thought is to get a broken phone with the right kind of antenna... it's kind of a long shot I know, in terms of it fitting in the Streak case... also, I note by googling that the antennas are attached to a cable, so soldering might not be the way.
I will wait to see what happens at CES and if there is no 5" Streak with Tmo antennas, then I will contact the guys that did the Streak tear down (and lots of other cell phone teardowns) to see if replacing the antenna with one that has 1700/2100 MHz is possible... since Dell made some of the units that way, somehow it must be... but I'm not sure if it would take that exact antenna or if another one could be used somehow... that is the question.
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Theoretically you probably could. You'd have to get the hardware, which probably isn't too easy for the average consumer. Then you'd have to swap it out with what's in there already. Even if you get the hardware swapped and manage to not ruin anything else innside the phone, there's one minor hurdle: software. You'd have to have a radio that worked with 1700. If you swap out current hardware with what shipped in the test builds that were handed out as demo units, you could probably find that old radio. If you swap it out with something that's only AWS, you'll have to essentially build your own radio. At least, that's my understanding.
While it all may be theoretically possible, I think it's a gigantic waste of time, effort, and money. Try to pick up a demo unit that supports AWS. They gave those out in Texas, right? If memory serves...
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Try to pick up a demo unit that supports AWS. They gave those out in Texas, right? If memory serves...
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Very few from the beta program in TX are AWS capable. Happy Hunting.
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Streakr, you mean the 7" Streak or the 5 inch one?
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The talk is about the 5" one right now. We should find out more about the 7" later this week. Don't get your hopes up on having 3G voice on that one though.
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The talk is about the 5" one right now. We should find out more about the 7" later this week. Don't get your hopes up on having 3G voice on that one though.
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As long as they have 5" version which will work on TMo-US 3G bands, I am happy!
SoberGuy is right, kinda. You will need a new radio, although not in the software sense - the actual hardware that generates the RF signals, not just the antenna. Think of it as having a CB radio and putting a TV antenna on it - it won't make your CB transmit on TV frequencies.
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SoberGuy is right, kinda. You will need a new radio, although not in the software sense - the actual hardware that generates the RF signals, not just the antenna. Think of it as having a CB radio and putting a TV antenna on it - it won't make your CB transmit on TV frequencies.
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Thx kd5uzz... so I'd need a radio and antenna... of course that makes sense that it would need something for receiving AND sending!
Since I origially posted this thread there have been some (unofficial) rumblings of the Streak 7 being released on Tmobile... so I am considering waiting for it. Also, Jenn on streaksmart has alluded to the "existing" version Streak being released on Tmo in 2011 as well.
And as I mentioned above, I have also heard about a "more than 5 in. " Palm tabphone called the Mansion that is planned for March 11 release (yeah, I know... subject to slippage of course).... that will be on Sprint... which would work fine too.
So I guess I'm not feeling the need to do a teardown/rebuild yet... but thx again for the input... I still think it can be done but I'm also dealing with some other issues at the moment.
You cant just swap antennas, the circuit board and the software must be able to support. If this was possible somebody would have figured it out by now.
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The talk is about the 5" one right now. We should find out more about the 7" later this week. Don't get your hopes up on having 3G voice on that one though.
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I'm having hard time understanding what the heck they can do *after* it's out...
I'm not planning getting any tablet but if I'd do I'd just kill/disable whatever service/app I want - it's mine, period. Then if I want to use Skype or a SIP app, I will, period. Heck, I root it if I want.
hi,
as we know, nexus 4 has Broadcom chip that support fm radio, but no antenna wired.
Now my question, in jeremy clarkson style, is: How hard can it be connect the antenna pin to the headphone wire? there are some problem doing this?
and the last one: in other device how is this done? only cable or not?
if you know someone who known about electronic ask him
borich said:
hi,
as we know, nexus 4 has Broadcom chip that support fm radio, but no antenna wired.
Now my question, in jeremy clarkson style, is: How hard can it be connect the antenna pin to the headphone wire? there are some problem doing this?
and the last one: in other device how is this done? only cable or not?
if you know someone who known about electronic ask him
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Hah, this was actually discussed in last week's Pocketnow podcast. I guess it isn't easily done, messing with the hardware is something else.
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Hah, this was actually discussed in last week's Pocketnow podcast. I guess it isn't easily done, messing with the hardware is something else.
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what they said about it?