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I just read that Android doesn't naively support Wimax in 2.1 and Sprint put some of their code in to make it work on the EVO. This seems similar to the way HTC used code in 1.5 to make the Hero work before 1.6 came out. Is there any chance we would be able to take that code and have Wimax on the Hero? Please read disclaimer below in case you are about to flame me.
Disclaimer: I realize this may be a really stupid question. I'm unfamiliar with Wimax and what hardware it requires so if the Hero just doesn't have the hardware capabilities then obviously this is a mute point.
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I just read that Android doesn't naively support Wimax in 2.1 and Sprint put some of their code in to make it work on the EVO. This seems similar to the way HTC used code in 1.5 to make the Hero work before 1.6 came out. Is there any chance we would be able to take that code and have Wimax on the Hero? Please read disclaimer below in case you are about to flame me.
Disclaimer: I realize this may be a really stupid question. I'm unfamiliar with Wimax and what hardware it requires so if the Hero just doesn't have the hardware capabilities then obviously this is a mute point.
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pretty sure they wont be releasing that "code" to the public
richse said:
I just read that Android doesn't naively support Wimax in 2.1 and Sprint put some of their code in to make it work on the EVO. This seems similar to the way HTC used code in 1.5 to make the Hero work before 1.6 came out. Is there any chance we would be able to take that code and have Wimax on the Hero? Please read disclaimer below in case you are about to flame me.
Disclaimer: I realize this may be a really stupid question. I'm unfamiliar with Wimax and what hardware it requires so if the Hero just doesn't have the hardware capabilities then obviously this is a mute point.
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Moot point.
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Moot point.
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and for those who wish to know what he means by this....
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/moot_point
code or no code the hero is not capible
Short answer: No
The radio is physically different. Just like GSM/CDMA are physically different.
Hero's Supercharged Big Brother on meth, crack & roids
Wimax and 4g are just 2 of the reasons we will ALL be buying the EVO the minute it drops
EVERYONE WITH ME?????
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Wimax and 4g are just 2 of the reasons we will ALL be buying the EVO the minute it drops
EVERYONE WITH ME?????
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I'm in!
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wait lol wimax and 4g are the same thing lol
When I bought my Hero last October I knew next to nothing about 3g/4g etc... except the fact that 4g was faster and supposedly coming very soon to SLC. The salesman at the sprint store told me that the Hero is 4g capable and would just get an update when 4g was officially available. He also told me that there was already spotty 4g coverage in the SLC area. I know now he didn't know wtf he was talking about and just told me that to sell the phone.
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wait lol wimax and 4g are the same thing lol
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No they're not. "4G" is a standard term for certain speeds in mobile data networks.
(Technically WiMax is only a theoretical 4G network... in actual practice it's a lot slower than the 4G standard.)
at least he realized it was a dumb question while he was writing it... lol
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When I bought my Hero last October I knew next to nothing about 3g/4g etc... except the fact that 4g was faster and supposedly coming very soon to SLC. The salesman at the sprint store told me that the Hero is 4g capable and would just get an update when 4g was officially available. He also told me that there was already spotty 4g coverage in the SLC area. I know now he didn't know wtf he was talking about and just told me that to sell the phone.
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I"m sure that was salesman BS.
The Hero definitely does not have the radio for WiMax.
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I'll buy one the minute I see Root.
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No they're not. "4G" is a standard term for certain speeds in mobile data networks.
(Technically WiMax is only a theoretical 4G network... in actual practice it's a lot slower than the 4G standard.)
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No it's not..
4G is a standard term for the "4th Generation" of Mobile Data Networks..Not the actual speeds..
The speeds are then classified by the competitor, based on their network capabilities...
The speed of the network is defined by WiMax standards... Not by 4G standards..
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No it's not..
4G is a standard term for the "4th Generation" of Mobile Data Networks..Not the actual speeds..
The speeds are then classified by the competitor, based on their network capabilities...
The speed of the network is defined by WiMax standards... Not by 4G standards..
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True, 4G referes to 4th Generation. However, there are standards bodies (just like IEEE) that set out what minimum speeds are required to be considered 4th gen wired and wireless technologies (1Gbit for wired, 100Mbit for wireless.)
Eh really this does bring up something that will be interesting for me as a dev. I don't think that wimax/4g support is gonna be all in the kernel. For good reason. The modifications HTC made to get cdma to work in android 1.5 were not at all closed source kernel modifications. That is proven by the fact Maejep backported the gsm kernel to cdma and data worked the second he got it booting. The actual modifications HTC made were actually in the system build its self. Through apks that were closed source. Now I get and have gotten a few leak builds that have had wimax support in them. They were all gsm devices granted. But they still had a directory called wimax in the system. Now with that in mind my eclair dev build always had that directory in it and had the proper setup un the ramdisk to initiate wimax and it attempted to do so on every boot. Anyhow it was a given that the hero hardware didn't support wimax I know. But in regards to the Evo it leaves me wondering will we be able to use wimax in aosp builds. Will it be possible to move the wimax diff into aosp builds.
But yeah it just got me thinking
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...But in regards to the Evo it leaves me wondering will we be able to use wimax in aosp builds. Will it be possible to move the wimax diff into aosp builds.
But yeah it just got me thinking
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Very interesting point. After all, you KNOW that everyone is going to want an AOSP EVO ASAP (darn, I got acronym blowout).
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that set out what minimum speeds are required to be considered 4th gen wired and wireless technologies (1Gbit for wired, 100Mbit for wireless.)
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And what would those bodies be? Because in my 10 year wireless experience, this would be the first mention I have heard of them...........
The wireless standards are set by what the network capability is.. No ifs or buts.
The 1G,2G,3G,4G references are only for the customer so they know what "level" they are on...
The only standards are set by what the technology can withstand, and are not "set" until after usage and bandwidth tests are run by the network...And they approve of those data ranges...
So again, the "standard" is set by how much data WiMax can move...
WiMax is not theoretical... Clearwire has been using it for the better part of 4 years now.. And the speeds are going to be the same as they always have. They used WiMax for the disaster relief people during Hurricane Katrina.. It is a ten year old technology..
I'm sure there's a different radio in there, but... isn't WiMAX a newer version of 802.11x. Eg. 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n, etc.?
There hasn't been any mention of it, but could it possibly be backwards compatible with 802.11n?
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I'm sure there's a different radio in there, but... isn't WiMAX a newer version of 802.11x. Eg. 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g, 802.11n, etc.?
There hasn't been any mention of it, but could it possibly be backwards compatible with 802.11n?
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Kind of...
It is a brand new protocol 802.16, and it does support some limited normal WiFi(802.11), but there is a brand new architecture for connecting IP-based networks, so some sort of scripting would need to be ran to convert back to the 802.11 architecture..
So.....
in short, probably not...
This is the "Phone Info" screen on the Nexus S:
I noticed this while setting my NS to WCDMA only. This is a change from the Nexus One, which never had any EVDO or CDMA options in the Phone Info screen.
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This is the "Phone Info" screen on the Nexus S:
I noticed this while setting my NS to WCDMA only. This is a change from the Nexus One, which never had any EVDO or CDMA options in the Phone Info screen.
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I wouldn't read too much into it.....my Nexus One has CDMA Auto(PRL), CDMA Only, EvDo only and GSM/CDMA Auto (PRL) all listed.
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I wouldn't read too much into it.....my Nexus One has CDMA Auto(PRL), CDMA Only, EvDo only and GSM/CDMA Auto (PRL) all listed.
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Yea but there was a CDMA version of the N1... just never saw the light of day.
th0r615 said:
Yea but there was a CDMA version of the N1... just never saw the light of day.
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I am not saying there won't be - just that this isn't a "new" entry into the phone info menu as implied by the OP.
My Evo (cdma only) also had those same options.
opps
WCDMA is gsm. Its not the same as cdma on Verizon and Sprint.
edit: nevermind I had not seen the photo.
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I wouldn't read too much into it.....my Nexus One has CDMA Auto(PRL), CDMA Only, EvDo only and GSM/CDMA Auto (PRL) all listed.
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You are probably right, I just checked a friends N1 and saw the same options. Oh well, guess I was just over excited!
Someone on AndroidSPIN mentioned this and I figured it deserved it's own topic because this may be hard evidence and not speculation.
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There seems to be credible evidence here that the original Vibrant, at least in theory should support 14.4 : Halfway down the page, it mentions the samsung vibrant using the infineon 5703, which on their site, lists Class 10 as the chip support (14.4 speed)
http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/repo...estigative-analysis/samsung-galaxy-s/teardown
http://www.infineon.com/cms/en/product/channel.html?channel=ff80808112ab681d0112ab6ac1120609
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If the SGS does, in fact, have that chip- it could support 14.4 and be software locked to prevent it from accessing it. Anyone who knows more about hardware wanna take a stab at this? Thanks Steven at AndroidSPIN for bringing these facts out.
that is quite intriguing. Wonder what the "unlock key" is for this thing (if this is true.)
Nice post, I was just mentioning something like this in another thread.
It looks like they tore down a euro I9000 tho, not a T959.
I'm still willing to bet it's the same chip.
Now to find the method they used to cripple it.....
I think they have the same chips.
Interesting, that would be awesome if this was true and we were able to get 4G!
The Vibrant is capable of HSPA, not HSPA+. Basically meaning the Vibrant can use the tmobile 4g network but NOT at the advertised HSPA+ speeds. You will NOT be seeing 14mbs downloads on the carriers network.
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How fast have people got their Vibrants up to? Just got my gf a Captivate and it would be awesome if she saw a speed boost whenever AT&T gets off their fat ass and joins the 4G party.
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The Vibrant is capable of HSPA, not HSPA+. Basically meaning the Vibrant can use the tmobile 4g network but NOT at the advertised HSPA+ speeds. You will NOT be seeing 14mbs downloads on the carriers network.
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Do you know anything about hspa? The 7.2 hspa uses 16qam the 21 hspa+ uses 64qam. Same technology, same band. Simply faster modulation unless they use duel band in which both techs are supported. Im saying its possible. Not that it does or doesn't but I can debunk the not possible.
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How fast have people got their Vibrants up to? Just got my gf a Captivate and it would be awesome if she saw a speed boost whenever AT&T gets off their fat ass and joins the 4G party.
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AT&T has upgraded almost all of their 3G network to HSPA+ already. The reason AT&T speeds are slower than T-Mobile speeds is the simple fact that they have considerably more customers accessing their network at any given time.
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How fast have people got their Vibrants up to? Just got my gf a Captivate and it would be awesome if she saw a speed boost whenever AT&T gets off their fat ass and joins the 4G party.
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I'm gonna guess the fastest anyone's ever gotten on their Vibrant is 7.2mbps.
Just a guess.
remove your sim and power up the phone and hit (*#2263#) it will take you to a network service menu you want to select all bands and you will be utilizing the 4G network at that point....You may need a New 4G SIM card and or a Rom that Supports the 4G Data...Just my thoughts.
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AT&T has upgraded almost all of their 3G network to HSPA+ already. The reason AT&T speeds are slower than T-Mobile speeds is the simple fact that they have considerably more customers accessing their network at any given time.
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Why haven't they announced a single 4G phone yet? I know AT&T and T-mobile share part of their network, so I'm surprised that I haven't heard anything so far.
My understanding is that the 4G also has to be enabled by T-mobile for your account.
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My understanding is that the 4G also has to be enabled by T-mobile for your account.
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I think that's a load of bs. If the phone has reception it will use the network.
DaveNavy said:
remove your sim and power up the phone and hit (*#2263#) it will take you to a network service menu you want to select all bands and you will be utilizing the 4G network at that point....You may need a New 4G SIM card and or a Rom that Supports the 4G Data...Just my thoughts.
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I tried what you said and yes a menu does come up, BUT, the selections are
1 Automatic
2 WCDMA BAND (Which is only GSM 3G)
3 GSM BAND (EDGE/GPRS)
4 COMBI BANDS.
It would seem if the theory is true, then certian software would have to be mod(ROMS) so that it would unlock or reconize the chip as being able to use the 4G data side for T-mobile/ATT. I know all of T-mobiles sim cards are the same regardless if you have a 4G phone or not. If the device/phone is able to pick up the signal it will automaticly, I don't think there is a separate data plan for the 4G(I'll be talking to tech support to verify) But Tmobile is switching to newer sim cards that will work better with there network in every phone regardless if its 4G/3G/or Edge.
i just got off the chat with a rep about the sim card thing
Julian Magana: if i enable 4g threw my plan will i need a new sim card
~Michael C: Welcome to T-Mobile Chat service Julian. My name is Michael and for your reference my rep ID is 13-20364. First, please allow me one moment to review the information you have provided.
Julian Magana: hello
~Michael C: Thank you for your patience. All of the our data plans for Smartphones will support the 4G speeds. There's no need to change your SIM card.
Julian Magana: ive seen several articles out the the vibrant + and the original vibrant are the exact same thing minus the ffc
~Michael C: I can't really say anything until Samsung releases the specifications of the new phone, since we don't have any information on it yet. It's possible that it could be 4G since we have a few 4G devices out, but we can't tell until Samsung releases the information.
Julian Magana: ok and i found this which compares both + and original
Julian Magana: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Vibrant-4G,Samsung-Vibrant/phones/5138,4747
Julian Magana: what do u know about that
~Michael C: I can't verify how accurate the information is because the details haven't been officially announced. According to that link it supports current 4G speeds (21 mbps)
Julian Magana: so if rumors are true, then the original vibrant can fully utilize 4g speeds but samsung has it hardware locked correct?
~Michael C: I haven't seen any cases where a phone was able to go from 3G to 4G speeds because of the firmware, the phone would need to be designed to use the 4G network.
Julian Magana: meaning a 4g antenna correct?
~Michael C: I'm not sure of the exact details, but the hardware needs to be built to use the 4G network. The Vibrant was a 3G phone released before we made any 4G phones, I don't think changing the original Vibrants to 4G would be an option.
Julian Magana: well if thats the case then im sure there will be a 4g antenna mod
Julian Magana: thats all the questions i have thank you for ur help
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he was real quick about ending the session lol
yes the chip is capable of 14.4 but is locked for now to 7.2, Some guy from Samsung even comfirmed this as well, infact he confirmed It I believe on January 11th or the 12th when people were talking about the Vibrant 4G.
Very interesting! I'm holding a possible free upgrade to the vibrant 4g in my hand! I'm keeping aneye on this thread!
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Just an observation but can the T-Mobile techs on chat get just a little bit of credit for...
1. being fairly knowledgeable about their products
2. doing a pretty good job of not promising something they know they can't deliver
3. being nice enough to put up the sh*t we propeller heads tend to give them via a chat or phone support session?
I know this isn't quite the right thread for it but a good part of the reason I've stuck with T-Mobile all these years is that they have always seemed to do a better job at supporting their products than their competitors...
So, lets give them credit if credit is due to them for doing a good job in the face of the swelling public outcry!
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yes the chip is capable of 14.4 but is locked for now to 7.2, Some guy from Samsung even comfirmed this as well, infact he confirmed It I believe on January 11th or the 12th when people were talking about the Vibrant 4G.
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you say this with such certaintity and state it as fact, can you provide the proof someone at samsung said this?
fix does not work.
Is that force roaming to Vz? Maybe you started getting spotty Sprint ownwd EVDO coverage. Forcing 3g only could be putting you on Vz towers.
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Doesn't EVDO Only disable voice calls?
This would also be a good way to save battery without losing all data connectivity.
3G/EVDO uses a lot of power. If you switch this setting to CDMA only you will force the phone to only use 1x. The data rates will be slower, but acceptable enough for most notifications and light things like facebook.
CDMA - 2G/1X Slower Data greater battery life
EVDO - 3G/EVDO Higher speed data, battery hog.
Maximilian Mary said:
Doesn't EVDO Only disable voice calls?
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Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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Award Tour said:
Is that force roaming to Vz? Maybe you started getting spotty Sprint ownwd EVDO coverage. Forcing 3g only could be putting you on Vz towers.
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I dont think it is.
I have my phone set to Home network only. doing this boosted my signal from 1 bar (-90,-100dBm) to a full signal (-65dBM) it clearly says Sprint CDMA EvDo Rev. A in connection status.
Thank you very much =D
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Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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Yep that is correct. Just tested it...
Hybrid OR CDMA only are the only options you should choose here folks.
CDMA only WILL produce battery life savings though. Your data will be slower then molasses rolling uphill in December BUT it will be sufficient for emails.
It's a very nice find either way just on that fact alone. Back in the motorola days this was a very popular battery saver mod. Disabling EVDO and forcing it to always be 1X.
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Yep. Your phone shouldn't even ring doing his "fix".
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hehe.... you are correct sir... going back to old ****ty service again so i can get phone calls
The EVDO radio and CDMA radio are two different radios I believe.
When you put EVDO only you're probably seeing JUST your 3G signal which might appear stronger.
CDMA only you're seeing just your 1x/voice/sms signal.
Hybrid the signal bars I'm sure just average the two out...
That's how I "think!" it works... could be way wrong.
Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
fixxxer2008 said:
Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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I wouldn't be surprised if a new PRL fixes this... seems to be area specific, I have great signal for the most part...
Also, fixxer, I know you've been having horrid battery life. I'm sure the low signal is causing this as the lower the signal the more power the radio is going to be given to try and maintain the signal.
Try CDMA only and use WiFi whenever you can (also be sure to set WiFi sleep policy to never). 1x uses significantly less power then 3G... although it's to slow to be downloading big apps or loading really complex web pages, it would however be great for general notifications. Give it a shot and let me know if it helps your battery at all!
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Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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Hey, it can still work as a temporary solution for some people. I'm close to saying "Dagnabbit, I don't care if I get calls. I want to listen to twit live!" GV notifications should still work, anyway.
getprop ril.MSL
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in adb shell or terminal emulator will kindly reward you with your MSL
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I wouldn't be surprised if a new PRL fixes this... seems to be area specific, I have great signal for the most part...
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yeah, I'm doing pretty great on signal.
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Could be a prl but i still think it needs a radio. This phone is set to wcdma when it should be cdma auto prl. Hopefully we get a fix or ota soon. My battery is better today since i flashed a stock rom and kernel. Not great but better.
I gave the CDMA-only option a shot, no incoming phone calls at all. Switched instead to EVDO only, and calls seems to be coming through better in an area where I had maybe 50% success rate for incoming calls when running unmodified. I'll leave it here for awhile, so I know when someone is actually trying to call me.
This is horribly frustrating, I suffered with poor AT&T service for years for the iPhone and never thought I'd be wishing I hadn't changed carriers. I could maybe justify the shoddy call coverage if data was at least fast, but it's not. I'm giving this another week, and going for a return and possibly switching carriers again.
CDMA only setting for calls/texts paired with 4G for data seems to work pretty well.
Since EVDO only mode seems to prevent receiving calls.
True test will be when I get home, 1930's brick building that has been raising hell with calls.
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Well at least i tried since sprint is dragging their heels. We need a new radio and quick.
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Didn't someone else come up with this potential fix and post it in the Sprint Community Forum?
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Didn't someone else come up with this potential fix and post it in the Sprint Community Forum?
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and i never said i wrote it, i put it here for you guys. i did however test it for this guy early this morning. were all trying to find a temp fix until the companies get off their asses.
Just looking for someone to point me in the right direction... I know it can be done but google searches only seem to return ads for people selling already flashed phones. Little help would be greatly appreciated!
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Just looking for someone to point me in the right direction... I know it can be done but google searches only seem to return ads for people selling already flashed phones. Little help would be greatly appreciated!
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Google how to do it with the Epic 4G...thats how I go mine on Boost. There is a youtube video and a section here on XDA in the Epic android development section on how to get data working on the Epic on boost mobile. It works for the NS4G..trust me..
as mentioned above.. its the exact same method as epic. tho the code to put the phone in diag mode is different. *#*#DIAG#*#*
now i just wish we could edit wimax settings. :/
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as mentioned above.. its the exact same method as epic. tho the code to put the phone in diag mode is different. *#*#DIAG#*#*
now i just wish we could edit wimax settings. :/
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Yea the DIAG is different...I have heard some people say they get 4G..how is that possible?
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Yea the DIAG is different...I have heard some people say they get 4G..how is that possible?
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If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.
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If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.
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Oh really? I still have my Sprint account but the NS4G isnt active right now on the account. Where I live we will not see 4G for who knows how long so thats why I went to boost on it.
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If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.
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there are no RSA keys in the nexus s. thats htc stuff. its the mac address that gets put into the system. and the ppl getting 4g via other means dont have it activated on sprint.. theyve edited the mac address to one that is valid. HOW they edited the mac is my question.
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i will agree partly with what lancerEVA has stated.. some phones have previously been activated and kinda got lost in the system for now. but i still stick with my original message... there are people that are editing the mac address manually.
on the epic this was possible using the wimax debug menus. these menus have been removed on the nexus.
Why would anyone want to use a Nexus S 4G phone on Boost? Boost Mobile consists entirely of iDENT which is totally incompatible with the Nexus S 4G. Boost phones that use CDMA just use the Sprint towers anyways so there would be no difference in coverage. Boost Mobile has never, ever had CDMA towers of their own. Also, iDENT is vastly inferior to CDMA in every way. iDENT is just TDMA with a few "enhancements" like AT&T's old network used to be.
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Why would anyone want to use a Nexus S 4G phone on Boost? Boost Mobile consists entirely of iDENT which is totally incompatible with the Nexus S 4G. Boost phones that use CDMA just use the Sprint towers anyways so there would be no difference in coverage. Boost Mobile has never, ever had CDMA towers of their own. Also, iDENT is vastly inferior to CDMA in every way. iDENT is just TDMA with a few "enhancements" like AT&T's old network used to be.
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Yea your right...the coverage is the same....I get the same ho-hum 3G speeds with Boost as I do Sprint except I'm paying $45 for unlimited everything because of the shrinkage plan with Boost. What are you talking about Boost has never, ever had a tower of there own? Hey "techguy"...do you realize there owned by Sprint?...and by the way, when you say iDENT are you referring to iDEN? They have CDMA and iDEN networks and the Nexus will run off of the CDMA network like on Sprint because it is Sprint...get it?
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Yea your right...the coverage is the same....I get the same ho-hum 3G speeds with Boost as I do Sprint except I'm paying $45 for unlimited everything because of the shrinkage plan with Boost. What are you talking about Boost has never, ever had a tower of there own? Hey "techguy"...do you realize there owned by Sprint?...and by the way, when you say iDENT are you referring to iDEN? They have CDMA and iDEN networks and the Nexus will run off of the CDMA network like on Sprint because it is Sprint...get it?
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exactly.. people use sprint phones on boost for the best of both worlds. virgin is also a great candidate.. the $25 plan is pretty nice. tho i did just read that virgin will be getting rid of unlimited data.. well.. throttling after 2.5GB I believe. regardless.. 2 great options besides Sprint.. which is a great option compared to the other US carriers. win/win/win.
I will be getting my NS4G in the mail soon. I would love to do the flashing myself, but still looking for a guide. I have the guide on how to flash the EVO tho.
Is it safe to do software upgrades on the phone when I get it? And if I do any software upgrade after I get it flashed, will I lose my 3g or mms?