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Hi,
I'm working on THE ideal freeware sms-application for XDA... I do have much ideas that I want to realise in my SMS-application (scheduled sms, using the interface of a Nokia - Sony-Ericsson, sending messages with your thumb,...)
Now I need to know YOUR :!: suggestions and YOUR :!: wanted features, YOUR :!: wishlist for the ideal SMS-application!
Thanks for telling me what YOU need or want to have...
Sam
I would like to have an SMS application with the possibility to write with one hand in the standard GSM mode with big keypad (like it is in D9 software).
For me the best thing should be to integrate in D9 (after you find the contact with one hand and select the SMS button) an SMS client with the same keypad like the one for finding contacts (always in D9) which has big numbers with letters (that I can tap them with the fingers to write the message).
Instead of the green button it should have the send one and instead of the two big buttons (contact list and options) it should have the place for the written text.
I think it is the easiest way to write SMS when you walk or have just one hand free.
I hope that you are really going to do something like this.
Thanks,
Urosh
Here's my list of desired features:
Support for international numbers with '+' prefix
Ability to send a text message to all contacts that belong to a chosen category
Texting using dialpad with predictive text input (T9)
Big QWERTY keyboard so we could quickly type messages without using the stylus (maybe in landscape mode)
spam blocker as in you can type in a phonenr from where you dont wish to recieve sms's from
to fight sms spam
It would be awesome if you found some way of integrating T9 text option in your sms client..... That would make life so easy when using your thumb to type out quick messages.....
Thank you for the effort in trying to create a client like this.... I think a lot of people could benefit from your efforts.... The sms-writer program that's out there right now is cool, but its hard to use..... The buttons are small and there's no T9 option.... so its takes forever to type out a message.....
In case that you want to have T9 text input method it should be an option and not default (for non english users).
Jargon..."Big QWERTY keyboard so we could quickly type messages without using the stylus (maybe in landscape mode)"...
I think that a big qwerty keyboard is a non sense, because you need two hands to use it. If I have two hands to write the SMS I should use the default input method. What do you think about?
Urosh
QWERTY
Yes i would like a big landscape QWERTY keyboard, that is my prefered method, i am not so much for that T9 stuff,
I would like a big (preferably changeable) readble font!!! I tried miserably to change the font size on the default application and failed (
also it should still integrate with the inbox and outbox..or maybe have its own outbox and inbox and folders
the contacts should easily be found with either a D9, phone plus, or finger clix method
just as a though..maybe the work on the application could be split in 2 folds.....one for the client itself...
the second is for the input method (like block recognizer and on screenkeyboard)..we can have akeypad with T9 option (that can also be used in other applications
this way you can improe the functionality of the sms client and focus on that...and give the freedom to use which ever input method the user prefers
but please...bigger font!!!!
Hops,
Echo all those suggestions dude - especially the one-handed input method like D9. Sending SMS's whilst driving is the bain of my existance!
I'd pay good money for this app if it comes to fruition. Good luck.
Codenix.
At last someone is developing key features for SMS. The most important feature to me is being able to send SMS to a pre asinged group of contacts.
If the application meets my expectation, I will be glad to pay for it!
The big QWERTY keyboard is good when you're texting while walking or when you're a passenger on a moving vehicle. It's hard to use the stylus and the built-in small keyboard when you're on the move. Also, texting using a QWERTY keyboard is faster than texting using a dialpad.
Please, find a way to send and receive EMS picture messages (not MMS), like the Nokia phone
EMS does new nokia's even have that ?
it's pretty old and never got all that popular
also maybe the reson behind it never became popular could
be that nokia or ericson or who ever own that std
want royalties when people use it
Hi all,
Thanks already for your response!
What I will add to my aplication:
- Big QWERTY / AZERTY keyboard
- Input like a normal GSM (abc - def) - like D9 (one-handed input method)
- Using your OUTLOOK-contacts
- Creating user-groups
- Adaptable screen-layouts (colors, fonts, font-size,...)
- Basic EMS-support
What I will not add is T9, because T9 is a trademark of T9 http://www.t9.com/ and to expensive to implement it in my freeware application!
The SPAM-blocker is a feature I will try to implement, but I can't promise this...
Some more whishes??
Thanks in advance!
Sam
That's it for me, but please I woul like to find a contact (from outlook contacts data base) also with one hand (like D9 method).
I say it because for example in SMS writer you write the SMS (it is too slow and too little buttons) and then to find the contact you must use the stylus. It is impossible to use the fingers. So, that's not the solution if I must use the stylus.
So, I repeat that the best solution would be to include your SMS client in D9 (I think it is open source) and your client appears when the contact has been just found and you tap the SMS button near the contact number and write the SMS with the same screen of initial d9.
That should be the BEST for me!
Thanks again samvds for your work.
Just another thing
In the default SMS client I have to check the box (I have to go always in the option menu) everytime if I want to ricieve the delivery notification.
Could you make it in one of these ways:
- default option (always send the notification of delivery, which is for me important to know if one have recieved the SMS)
- to select this option every time, but in the same screen (not to go in other option menus)
- have the possibility to select this option or not for all SMS (not for every SMS separately)
Thanks again,
Urosh
my good old siemens SL45 used to understand that it was receiving the delivery reciept..and it would not save it as a message...just to scroll the info on the screen ..which is very nice not to have all those delivery receipts in the inbox!
Another good idea is being able to send preprogrammed sms.
you can program your XDA2 to send a birthday greeting on March 13, 2004 at exactly 12:00 am. Or SMS all of your staff a memo on at a certain time
I think using a QWERTY keypad is a bad idea... I have a Nokia 5510, with a full QWERTY keyboard, and it is such a pain to text. I always have to use two hands... you have to be very dextrous just to use one hand. I think a normal dial keypad with T9 would be the best option.
Thanks,
Matt
thoroughfare said:
I think using a QWERTY keypad is a bad idea... I have a Nokia 5510, with a full QWERTY keyboard, and it is such a pain to text. I always have to use two hands... you have to be very dextrous just to use one hand. I think a normal dial keypad with T9 would be the best option.
Thanks,
Matt
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I agree
Yeah well the topic explains itself, I use the 2.06.00WWE rom on my XDA II and when I text someone it sends 2 messages before I even type 160characters, I remember a LONG time ago there was a topic on how to fix this but I don't remember, someone please help!
imablackhat,
Man you've got a nice sounding nickname, pls be by no means offended I really like it much better than mine
You're right there's a thread about it & can't remember which one, but I gues you're unicode characters or other special ones which occupy two bytes instead of one.
Know what i mean?
Regards, M
imablackhat said:
when I text someone it sends 2 messages before I even type 160characters
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This happens when you use characters in your message which require unicode.
The standard SMS message only allows for approx. 70 chars/SMS in unicode.
Avoid unicode chars when writing SMS and check the counter which tells you exactly how many chars you have left and how many SMS will be sent.
Sascha
usually occurs when a word gets auto-corrected to include an apostrophe, eg when you type dont and it corrects it to don't, the ' screwes up the whole message. if you type don't yourself manually, then its fine, but the autocorrect is the main problem..
omniwolf said:
usually occurs when a word gets auto-corrected to include an apostrophe, eg when you type dont and it corrects it to don't, the ' screwes up the whole message. if you type don't yourself manually, then its fine, but the autocorrect is the main problem..
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Bad example since don't does not trigger unicode.
On the other hand don´t or don`t will trigger unicode.
It depends on the exact character used und it is clearly shown by the messaging application.
So check it before sending.
Sascha
well if you read my message, i explicitely said it was when dont was autocorrected to don't. the ` or whatever character looks the same on the pda screen
As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?
i had the same problem too.. except after 3 messages it split to 3 messages for 112 charachters... was confused too....
jaso2005 said:
As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?
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Please check to see if you use any dobule byte character in your SMS. This might be the cause.
Michael
Hey guys this is due to the fact that when you write the SMSs you are including UNICODE characters such as ' " etc....
Due to the fact that these characters are encoded differently to standard characters, the SMS application has to reduce the number of characters in the sms and hence only allows 70 characters per sms.......which could mean that you send a short sms or send the sms split up! This can cost you a lot!!!
You have two options........
1/ Turn off Unicode characters
- this is done by; from you SMS inbox -> Tools -> Options -> Accounts Tab -> Click on * Text Messages -> un-tick the 'Use Unicode when necessary' -> then OK.
2/ Make sure that you don’t use Unicode characters
hope this helps!!
you can also turn unicode and double-byte characters off as well.
in messaging app, tap accounts, and then accounts
tap text messages, and then untick use unicode when necessary.
This still allows you to type in the extra characters, but wether it sends them or not, I dont know (being an uneducated englishman, i only speak english so never use those characters!)
this place just never seases to amaze me! Thanks very much guys you all deserve a star! :lol:
if you donate 5 euros then u get a star lol :lol:
Karzi said:
if you donate 5 euros then u get a star lol :lol:
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I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.
jigero said:
I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.
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No, because greek characters are in the extended unicode set, not the default characters.
but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ?
perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...
woh guys!! I wondered why my qtek S110 did wierd stuff.. it's all ok now thanks to you!! CHEEERS!! ;o)
mapas said:
but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ? perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...
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In the default 7-bit SMS alphabet, the greek letters that do not have a latin equivalent (say beta -> B) or omomorph (say rho -> P) letter, that is delta, phi, gamma, lambda, omega, pi, psi, sigma theta and xi are available, but you can't chose between upper and lower case. The official character set only supports UPPER case...
There are a few semistandard for dealing with upper and lower cases, but it's quite likely that the sms application on windows mobile can't deal with either.
but with the greek keyboard it works!!!!!
only with the phone pad not......
How about Chinese characters?
As everyone who tried using T9 and non-ascii characters you probably are aware of the, let's call it, *Question mark glitch*.
For anyone not familliar with this, the problem is that when ha the "Use Unicode when necessary" box unchecked and inserts a non-ascii character in a SMS message, the recipient receives question marks.
There seems to be no built in solution. Checking the box implies avoiding Unicode, which is painful when using T9 in some languages.
OK, now let me explain why I'm posting in this forum.
I'm doing a research on available options to create some simple app, which can help with the above. The ideas are:
1. A background application/service, which would intercept outgoing SMS messages and strip any Unicode characters
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This was my first idea. Unfortunately I've had hard time finding a viable solution. As long as sending and intercepting incoming messages is easy, control over outgoing SMS doesn't look too good. The CEMAPI is a pain but I may be missing somethig.
2. Another idea is to remap the Send softkey to own logic, which would strip Unicode.
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This seems an eay, higher-level approach to the first idea. If anyone would find this a good idea, do point in the right direction. Specifically in remapping the softkey (all I was able to find was rempping Today screen softkeys).
3. One last idea is simply to create a replacement SMS messaging app.
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Many of those exist but I'd very much like them it to nicely integrate with WinMo and TF3D. Is that any doable?
Man, this forum is so alive
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Hi,
The Xperia Arc has a user dictionary that you can actually put in words that you want spelled in a certain way.
I've created a rather long list of words unique to my language (Mandarin) but in Romanised form. However, when I use the predictive text on the T9 keypad, these words are not seen in the list of predicted words. It seems as if the User Dictionary is not in use at all.
Any way to force the SMS app to also check this User Dictionary for predictive suggestions? I'm using Android 2.3 and Handcent SMS.
Thanks!