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Hi All
Sometimes when i am typing a text msg i will allow me 160 characters per msg and if i go over this it will move onto the 2nd text msg. All fine here i hear you say.
Well other times it only allows me 70 characters before moving onto the 2nd msg. Has anyone experienced this?
thanks
Tim

yes i have. But I cannot explain why. I lost track of the different changes i maade. Flashed from merged 2.02 2.06 to raw 2.06 this weekend. No more strange happenings.
Victor

It just happens when you type unusual characters, and those need more than 1 "slot" to be sent...
So, when a normal letter counts by 1, a "^" or "§" for example will count by more.

In pocket outlook, go to Account->Accounts->Text Messages.
De-tick the "Use unicode when necessary" option to force your device to use 8-bit ASCII.

cheers, ill give that a go

SMS only 70 Letters?!

As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?

i had the same problem too.. except after 3 messages it split to 3 messages for 112 charachters... was confused too....

jaso2005 said:
As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?
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Please check to see if you use any dobule byte character in your SMS. This might be the cause.
Michael

Hey guys this is due to the fact that when you write the SMSs you are including UNICODE characters such as ' " etc....
Due to the fact that these characters are encoded differently to standard characters, the SMS application has to reduce the number of characters in the sms and hence only allows 70 characters per sms.......which could mean that you send a short sms or send the sms split up! This can cost you a lot!!!
You have two options........
1/ Turn off Unicode characters
- this is done by; from you SMS inbox -> Tools -> Options -> Accounts Tab -> Click on * Text Messages -> un-tick the 'Use Unicode when necessary' -> then OK.
2/ Make sure that you don’t use Unicode characters
hope this helps!!

you can also turn unicode and double-byte characters off as well.
in messaging app, tap accounts, and then accounts
tap text messages, and then untick use unicode when necessary.
This still allows you to type in the extra characters, but wether it sends them or not, I dont know (being an uneducated englishman, i only speak english so never use those characters!)

this place just never seases to amaze me! Thanks very much guys you all deserve a star! :lol:

if you donate 5 euros then u get a star lol :lol:

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if you donate 5 euros then u get a star lol :lol:
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I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.

jigero said:
I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.
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No, because greek characters are in the extended unicode set, not the default characters.

but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ?
perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...

woh guys!! I wondered why my qtek S110 did wierd stuff.. it's all ok now thanks to you!! CHEEERS!! ;o)

mapas said:
but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ? perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...
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In the default 7-bit SMS alphabet, the greek letters that do not have a latin equivalent (say beta -> B) or omomorph (say rho -> P) letter, that is delta, phi, gamma, lambda, omega, pi, psi, sigma theta and xi are available, but you can't chose between upper and lower case. The official character set only supports UPPER case...
There are a few semistandard for dealing with upper and lower cases, but it's quite likely that the sms application on windows mobile can't deal with either.

but with the greek keyboard it works!!!!!
only with the phone pad not......

How about Chinese characters?

Why only 70 characters SMS?

When I start a new SMS it appears 160 remaining characters. It's when I have to choose the recipient, but when I begin writing the remainig number of characters changes to only 70, so If I write 71 or more, there are at least 2 SMS to send...
Why only 70 characters?
Is there any way to increase the longitude of them?

some special characters can do that, like accents or brackets etc. Try not to use them

Hi
This use to happen on some smartphones that I used to have.
Try unchecking the 'Use unicode when neccesary' box
In Messaging select Tools--->Options--->Tap text Messages.
Let me know the outcome
Regards
S.K.

silent_killa said:
Hi
This use to happen on some smartphones that I used to have.
Try unchecking the 'Use unicode when neccesary' box
In Messaging select Tools--->Options--->Tap text Messages.
Let me know the outcome
Regards
S.K.
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I've just unchecked this option. I'll communicate the result.
Thank you.

PERFECT!!!
Now SMS's become 160 characters again.
Thank you.

I've seen this happen on phones if the auto correct feature is set to try and correct apostrophe characters (for example, changing its to it's )

Mariete said:
PERFECT!!!
Now SMS's become 160 characters again.
Thank you.
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Great, glad to be of help.
S.K.

Software Pls: SMS Filter

bad situation: Sweetheart erroneously receives an SMS from you that was meant for Honey.
solution: Read and re-read your messages before sending them, and verify that you arre sending to the right person before pressing SEND, but we are only HUMAN, and we make mistakes.
software to the rescue: A SMS editor program that FILTERS your messages and decides wether your message is really meant for the person you are sending the message to.
how?: you assign keywords to contacts and it is saved in a database that the program accesses, for example, you blacklist the words "honey" and "baby" from messages you send to SWEETHEART, so the database will look like this:
Sweetheart-(Blacklist: honey, baby)
Honey-(Blacklist: sweetheart,baby)
Baby-(Blacklist: sweetheart,honey)
so when you type the message "Goodnight Honey" then SEND to SWEETHEART, the program evaluates that this message should not be sent to SWEETHEART and WARNS YOU and DOES NOT PROCEED to SEND the message, but if the message is "Goodnight Sweetheart" and to be sent to SWEETHEART, the program evaluate it as valid, then proceeds to SEND the MESSAGE to TMAIL.EXE (the REAL SMS program for final sending)
objective of this program: WORLD PEACE, actually just peaceful and harmonious living, hahaha. because wrong sending of message is eliminated.
other uses of this program?: you can blacklist the word "FAT" from being sent to your very fat friend, because he feels insulted by the word, or you can blacklist "PORK or PIG" to other people who might feel offended by this word.
Men and Women alike would like this program, although some would not admit it, they would really find a program like this very useful. hehehe.
So now the question: Can some programmer do this pls?
I can do programming for PC, but i havent done Pocket PC programming, i think all this program is an INTERFACE with the user by providing TEXT EDITOR, the evaulates the TEXT, then PASS the information to TMAIL.EXE.
CAN SOMEONE DO THIS?
thanks

reserved for flowchart....to help programmer if there are any takers...

Should be possible... I'll be happy to take a look when i have some time..
But ... i'm pretty curious what "inspired" this idea

nice app! and Mr_Gee, maybe simliar inspiration was used in your SMS Password app

NguyenHuu said:
nice app! and Mr_Gee, maybe simliar inspiration was used in your SMS Password app
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haha lol
The strange thing is my girl also looked through my messages the day before
I wrote that application... so it was also a bit of personal gain

This is what i whipped up, please note the sending is not working yet...
give it a go and let me know what you think...
to begin click on menu>app. options>import contacts
rescan when the table is filled hit OK
Next manage blacklist
select the name from the dropdown list, add the blacklisted words
for testing i used pizza, banaan (its dutch)
thats also why there is already some text entered in the message are
(i forgot to remove it when i compiled the app )
Once the blacklist is updated hit save and close
in option screen click save
go to menu>add recipient and select the one you've just updated the blacklist for, next write a text, with or without those words and see what happens.
From the testing i did the logic seems to work...
please note, the blacklisted words need to be written without spaces and seperated by a comma
e.g. hello,mikey,banana
also Pizza is not the same as pizza...
let me know what you think..
On a sidenote, the application also needs a name
i was thinking along the lines of
- Stupid Me (what you usually think after sending the wrong person an sms)
- doh! (tribute to Homer )
- LifeSaver
- LoveSaver
- SMSLifeLine
but if you have a better idea please let me know
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will test it, LIFESAVER could be a good name, but it what it does is save my ARSE really, hehehehe.
what i usually think after sending to the wrong person? "OMIGOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!" then comes the cold sweat, then the customary call from the recepient then 2 days of explaining, hehehe.

what inspired this idea? clearly... is to help my friend who has a lot of girlfriends...hehehe. he tried calling them all HONEY...didnt work
suggestion, converting all text in blacklist and in message to ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before evalutaion could eliminate the difference between Pianp and piano, also, replacing "," or "." or symbol characters with "<space>," "<space>." or "<space>symbol" could help blacklisted word next to symbols. thanks man.

paulpax said:
what inspired this idea? clearly... is to help my friend who has a lot of girlfriends...hehehe. he tried calling them all HONEY...didnt work
suggestion, converting all text in blacklist and in message to ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before evalutaion could eliminate the difference between Pianp and piano, also, replacing "," or "." or symbol characters with "<space>," "<space>." or "<space>symbol" could help blacklisted word next to symbols. thanks man.
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Thought about it, but i think it would be easier just to write the 2 versions,
currently the application checks for the word, if it doesn't find it it checks both <word>, and <word>.
another problem is that I have the program check <space><word><space>
(thats why there cannot be any spaces in the blacklist)
the reason is that if the blacklisted word is Piano and the spaces aren't there it would flag Pianoman as a blacklisted word

youre right, is a beta program available that already sends? hehehe.

paulpax said:
youre right, is a beta program available that already sends? hehehe.
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not yet, hopefully tomorrow

will be waiting thanks, by the way, what proggy are you using to make this software?

New version, should be working (e.g. sending stuff)

thanks, will be testing this as soon as i find a way to get this on my SD card or phone, im at my work pc and all my tools are left at home. eg. sync cable, bluetooth, card reader, wlan card.

Did you find the time to check it?

yup tested it,
first test, import contacts then manage blacklist - done
insert recipient - done
typed text without a blacklist word - done
send - wont send, send button just reacts but it doesnt do anything.
typed text with a blacklisted word - done
send -no reaction, no sending or warning, button just reacts but doesnt do anything.
thats the result of my test mr. gee. thanks.
edit edit edit,
now this is funny, i thought nothing was done when i press send, but BOTH messages with blacklisted word and not were sent to the FIRST person on the contacts list. hehehe. talk about preventing sending to the wrong person, no harm done, but funny.
the first person in my contacts list replied to me with both text that i sent that was supposed to be for an intended recipient. the texts were intended for a person 'L' but was received by the person 'A'.

great idea
sounds very interesting ... but is there a programm for filtering/screening incoming messages aswell?
e.g. you recieve a message from a special person and you don´t want that s.o. hears it but all the other recieved message should ring as usual ...

for incoming filtering, i think there is a program for that already.
check link: http://www.zedsoft.net/
but for outgoing filtering, this is the current idea so far.

thanks for testing Paul,
I'll take a look at the application, not sure whare the issue is..

This is really good idea.... Keep up the good work
I remember that I was out for work and than I sent SMS like: I was cool, thanks.... to my girlfriend (doh!)... And real trouble started

sms Issue

When sending an sms I no longer get the contacts name appear as I type it into the To field. I have to go into contacts, press the persons name, then press send sms.
Anyone know what I have done and how I can rectify it please?

I have noticed that I have to now enter the 1st 3 characters before a name suggestion appears. Before it was only 1 character. It also brings the same name up twice, when it was only once before...

kirkie said:
When sending an sms I no longer get the contacts name appear as I type it into the To field. I have to go into contacts, press the persons name, then press send sms.
Anyone know what I have done and how I can rectify it please?
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Same problem here, I don't know why it disappeared out of the sudden.
EDIT: I played a little bit around and I figured out that you have to type a blank after the name (even if the name is not completed), then you get some proposals at the bottom line. But that's a different user interface, I wonder where the old one is gone?

foo said:
Same problem here, I don't know why it disappeared out of the sudden.
EDIT: I played a little bit around and I figured out that you have to type a blank after the name (even if the name is not completed), then you get some proposals at the bottom line. But that's a different user interface, I wonder where the old one is gone?
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It works if you type the 1st 3 characters and name suggestions appear. I'm sure name suggestions use to apear when only entering the 1st character before...

In my case even if the first 3 characters are entered no more suggestions will pop up. Maybe the behavior changes depending on the amount of contact stored. I don't know how many contacts I have but I guess it's something between 100 and 200.

foo said:
In my case even if the first 3 characters are entered no more suggestions will pop up. Maybe the behavior changes depending on the amount of contact stored. I don't know how many contacts I have but I guess it's something between 100 and 200.
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I have around 150 contacts and it worked OK before, but have no idea why it has changed now...

I have sorted this now. What I had done is changed the settings in the word completion from 1 letter to 3...