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2 text messages before 160characters?!!!

Yeah well the topic explains itself, I use the 2.06.00WWE rom on my XDA II and when I text someone it sends 2 messages before I even type 160characters, I remember a LONG time ago there was a topic on how to fix this but I don't remember, someone please help!

imablackhat,
Man you've got a nice sounding nickname, pls be by no means offended I really like it much better than mine
You're right there's a thread about it & can't remember which one, but I gues you're unicode characters or other special ones which occupy two bytes instead of one.
Know what i mean?
Regards, M

imablackhat said:
when I text someone it sends 2 messages before I even type 160characters
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This happens when you use characters in your message which require unicode.
The standard SMS message only allows for approx. 70 chars/SMS in unicode.
Avoid unicode chars when writing SMS and check the counter which tells you exactly how many chars you have left and how many SMS will be sent.
Sascha

usually occurs when a word gets auto-corrected to include an apostrophe, eg when you type dont and it corrects it to don't, the ' screwes up the whole message. if you type don't yourself manually, then its fine, but the autocorrect is the main problem..

omniwolf said:
usually occurs when a word gets auto-corrected to include an apostrophe, eg when you type dont and it corrects it to don't, the ' screwes up the whole message. if you type don't yourself manually, then its fine, but the autocorrect is the main problem..
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Bad example since don't does not trigger unicode.
On the other hand don´t or don`t will trigger unicode.
It depends on the exact character used und it is clearly shown by the messaging application.
So check it before sending.
Sascha

well if you read my message, i explicitely said it was when dont was autocorrected to don't. the ` or whatever character looks the same on the pda screen

SMS only 70 Letters?!

As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?

i had the same problem too.. except after 3 messages it split to 3 messages for 112 charachters... was confused too....

jaso2005 said:
As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?
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Please check to see if you use any dobule byte character in your SMS. This might be the cause.
Michael

Hey guys this is due to the fact that when you write the SMSs you are including UNICODE characters such as ' " etc....
Due to the fact that these characters are encoded differently to standard characters, the SMS application has to reduce the number of characters in the sms and hence only allows 70 characters per sms.......which could mean that you send a short sms or send the sms split up! This can cost you a lot!!!
You have two options........
1/ Turn off Unicode characters
- this is done by; from you SMS inbox -> Tools -> Options -> Accounts Tab -> Click on * Text Messages -> un-tick the 'Use Unicode when necessary' -> then OK.
2/ Make sure that you don’t use Unicode characters
hope this helps!!

you can also turn unicode and double-byte characters off as well.
in messaging app, tap accounts, and then accounts
tap text messages, and then untick use unicode when necessary.
This still allows you to type in the extra characters, but wether it sends them or not, I dont know (being an uneducated englishman, i only speak english so never use those characters!)

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Karzi said:
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I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.

jigero said:
I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.
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No, because greek characters are in the extended unicode set, not the default characters.

but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ?
perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...

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mapas said:
but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ? perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...
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In the default 7-bit SMS alphabet, the greek letters that do not have a latin equivalent (say beta -> B) or omomorph (say rho -> P) letter, that is delta, phi, gamma, lambda, omega, pi, psi, sigma theta and xi are available, but you can't chose between upper and lower case. The official character set only supports UPPER case...
There are a few semistandard for dealing with upper and lower cases, but it's quite likely that the sms application on windows mobile can't deal with either.

but with the greek keyboard it works!!!!!
only with the phone pad not......

How about Chinese characters?

Why only 70 characters SMS?

When I start a new SMS it appears 160 remaining characters. It's when I have to choose the recipient, but when I begin writing the remainig number of characters changes to only 70, so If I write 71 or more, there are at least 2 SMS to send...
Why only 70 characters?
Is there any way to increase the longitude of them?

some special characters can do that, like accents or brackets etc. Try not to use them

Hi
This use to happen on some smartphones that I used to have.
Try unchecking the 'Use unicode when neccesary' box
In Messaging select Tools--->Options--->Tap text Messages.
Let me know the outcome
Regards
S.K.

silent_killa said:
Hi
This use to happen on some smartphones that I used to have.
Try unchecking the 'Use unicode when neccesary' box
In Messaging select Tools--->Options--->Tap text Messages.
Let me know the outcome
Regards
S.K.
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I've just unchecked this option. I'll communicate the result.
Thank you.

PERFECT!!!
Now SMS's become 160 characters again.
Thank you.

I've seen this happen on phones if the auto correct feature is set to try and correct apostrophe characters (for example, changing its to it's )

Mariete said:
PERFECT!!!
Now SMS's become 160 characters again.
Thank you.
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Great, glad to be of help.
S.K.

Garbled sms, chinese, squares

Hi, i need a bit of help trouble shooting an issue i have.
My G1 is running the jesusfreke ADP 1.5 image. I normally use chompsms as my default messaging client.
Quite regularly my friends are tellingme that my text messages are coming through garbled. Either all squares, or every other character is an @ symbol.
The outgoing messages appear normal on my phone.
I asked one person to forward my last messed up msg back, and it came through like this:
<Forwarded from +44777123456>
Well he is one! Don't worry about h攠瑨楮歳⁩猠睥慫敲⁴桡渠桩洠ⴠ睥汬⁨攧猠杯琠愠獨潣欠捯浩湧ℊ䤧癥⁨搠敮潵杨⁷楮攠湯眬⁉❭潴⁰楳獥搠扵琠湩捥汹⁴楰獹⸮⸠睥❬氠桡癥⁴⁳潲琠潵琠愠湩杨琠瑯⁧漠潵琠潮⁴桥⁴潷渠慮搠来琠灩獳敤⁳潯渠㨭⤠䩸砊
Although on my phone, the square symbols with numbers in show up as chinese characters.
Very strange! It happens periodically with no trigger that i can find. When it starts doing it, it continues for a couple of msgs at least.
Has anyone heard of this before, or have any ideas what i can do to fix it?

Receive >160 char SMS all at once

I'm not sure if this is an EVO issue or a Sprint issue as I've always used AT&T before.
Is there a reason I can only receive about 1 SMS per minute and multi-part sms show up in parts rather than as one long message? The default Messaging app and Handcent seem to operate the same.
Any insight?
Thanks

Sprint has limited the number of characters in their messages for some time now, but I usually get the other parts of messages back-to-back. Well, maybe it took another 20 seconds for the 2nd part to come in, but it hasn't taken a whole minute.

Go to the market and download ChompSMS. It gives you the option to either split up the texts or receive them all at once.

Whoa ChompSMS will do that!? Like it will wait for everything to come in, compile it in order, and spit it to you in one SMS? If thats true thats awesome. Some of my friends write novels from their iPhones like little girls. Ill get all 17 pages at random times in random order. Ugh.

Well you can send texts out that are more than 160 characters. I think that you can receive them all at one too
Better yet...send yourself a text using chomp and go past the 160 character limit. See if it splits it up or not.

Handcent does the same. It even gives you the option to customize how you want it split. Split by letter, by word, etc., etc.

AcIdC0R3 said:
Handcent does the same. It even gives you the option to customize how you want it split. Split by letter, by word, etc., etc.
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Where is this option?

AcIdC0R3 said:
Handcent does the same. It even gives you the option to customize how you want it split. Split by letter, by word, etc., etc.
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Are you sure this effects receiving the message? I thought this only had to do with splitting the messages you are sending.

I hate when i get the second half of the message first.....Reply like ???? and then get the first half after i reply......

The person sending can also send them as a MMS (multi media message) which lets you do much more text.

i cant see the option to receive messages > 160 characters at once in chompSMS... I've looked everywhere

hydralisk said:
i cant see the option to receive messages > 160 characters at once in chompSMS... I've looked everywhere
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Have you received a text message that is more than 160 characters? I sent one to myself that was almost 300 and it all came in at one time. I then had a friend send me one, about the same size and it all came in one text...granted it was super long and took up the whole page.
What you could do is this -
SETTINGS > SMS NETWORK > MOBILE CARRIER SETTINGS > CDMA SPLIT
Make sure this is unchecked.
Reboot the phone and send yourself a >160 character text message and see what happens.

redrazr7791 said:
Have you received a text message that is more than 160 characters? I sent one to myself that was almost 300 and it all came in at one time. I then had a friend send me one, about the same size and it all came in one text...granted it was super long and took up the whole page.
What you could do is this -
SETTINGS > SMS NETWORK > MOBILE CARRIER SETTINGS > CDMA SPLIT
Make sure this is unchecked.
Reboot the phone and send yourself a >160 character text message and see what happens.
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This didn't work for me. Can anybody else confirm this?

Well after updating ChompSMS last night, it seems that I cannot receive texts like I used to. I can still get more than 160 characters, but not like I did before.
Oh well...most people I SMS with don't have the ability to send really long text messages anyways. Hope you guys can find something useful.