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Multiple Text Messages

Hi All
Sometimes when i am typing a text msg i will allow me 160 characters per msg and if i go over this it will move onto the 2nd text msg. All fine here i hear you say.
Well other times it only allows me 70 characters before moving onto the 2nd msg. Has anyone experienced this?
thanks
Tim

yes i have. But I cannot explain why. I lost track of the different changes i maade. Flashed from merged 2.02 2.06 to raw 2.06 this weekend. No more strange happenings.
Victor

It just happens when you type unusual characters, and those need more than 1 "slot" to be sent...
So, when a normal letter counts by 1, a "^" or "§" for example will count by more.

In pocket outlook, go to Account->Accounts->Text Messages.
De-tick the "Use unicode when necessary" option to force your device to use 8-bit ASCII.

cheers, ill give that a go

2 text messages before 160characters?!!!

Yeah well the topic explains itself, I use the 2.06.00WWE rom on my XDA II and when I text someone it sends 2 messages before I even type 160characters, I remember a LONG time ago there was a topic on how to fix this but I don't remember, someone please help!

imablackhat,
Man you've got a nice sounding nickname, pls be by no means offended I really like it much better than mine
You're right there's a thread about it & can't remember which one, but I gues you're unicode characters or other special ones which occupy two bytes instead of one.
Know what i mean?
Regards, M

imablackhat said:
when I text someone it sends 2 messages before I even type 160characters
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This happens when you use characters in your message which require unicode.
The standard SMS message only allows for approx. 70 chars/SMS in unicode.
Avoid unicode chars when writing SMS and check the counter which tells you exactly how many chars you have left and how many SMS will be sent.
Sascha

usually occurs when a word gets auto-corrected to include an apostrophe, eg when you type dont and it corrects it to don't, the ' screwes up the whole message. if you type don't yourself manually, then its fine, but the autocorrect is the main problem..

omniwolf said:
usually occurs when a word gets auto-corrected to include an apostrophe, eg when you type dont and it corrects it to don't, the ' screwes up the whole message. if you type don't yourself manually, then its fine, but the autocorrect is the main problem..
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Bad example since don't does not trigger unicode.
On the other hand don´t or don`t will trigger unicode.
It depends on the exact character used und it is clearly shown by the messaging application.
So check it before sending.
Sascha

well if you read my message, i explicitely said it was when dont was autocorrected to don't. the ` or whatever character looks the same on the pda screen

SMS only 70 Letters?!

As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?

i had the same problem too.. except after 3 messages it split to 3 messages for 112 charachters... was confused too....

jaso2005 said:
As a few of you know i have only just got my Magician, and i have been using it for the last few days and i have to say that i love it i really do, but i do have one problem, when replying to an sms message the counter starts at 160 but then after writing a line or so it drops to 70! So for a 160 letter sms it sends it in two messages of 70! :shock:
Anyone got any ideas on what that might be?
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Please check to see if you use any dobule byte character in your SMS. This might be the cause.
Michael

Hey guys this is due to the fact that when you write the SMSs you are including UNICODE characters such as ' " etc....
Due to the fact that these characters are encoded differently to standard characters, the SMS application has to reduce the number of characters in the sms and hence only allows 70 characters per sms.......which could mean that you send a short sms or send the sms split up! This can cost you a lot!!!
You have two options........
1/ Turn off Unicode characters
- this is done by; from you SMS inbox -> Tools -> Options -> Accounts Tab -> Click on * Text Messages -> un-tick the 'Use Unicode when necessary' -> then OK.
2/ Make sure that you don’t use Unicode characters
hope this helps!!

you can also turn unicode and double-byte characters off as well.
in messaging app, tap accounts, and then accounts
tap text messages, and then untick use unicode when necessary.
This still allows you to type in the extra characters, but wether it sends them or not, I dont know (being an uneducated englishman, i only speak english so never use those characters!)

this place just never seases to amaze me! Thanks very much guys you all deserve a star! :lol:

if you donate 5 euros then u get a star lol :lol:

Karzi said:
if you donate 5 euros then u get a star lol :lol:
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I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.

jigero said:
I have the same problem because i want to write sms in greek, but when i turn off the unicode the message fonts cannot be recognized by greek phones. Is there any other solution to this problem.
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No, because greek characters are in the extended unicode set, not the default characters.

but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ?
perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...

woh guys!! I wondered why my qtek S110 did wierd stuff.. it's all ok now thanks to you!! CHEEERS!! ;o)

mapas said:
but how come we can send 160char greek sms with other phones ? perhaps there is a keyboard mapping that doesn't use unicode...
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In the default 7-bit SMS alphabet, the greek letters that do not have a latin equivalent (say beta -> B) or omomorph (say rho -> P) letter, that is delta, phi, gamma, lambda, omega, pi, psi, sigma theta and xi are available, but you can't chose between upper and lower case. The official character set only supports UPPER case...
There are a few semistandard for dealing with upper and lower cases, but it's quite likely that the sms application on windows mobile can't deal with either.

but with the greek keyboard it works!!!!!
only with the phone pad not......

How about Chinese characters?

Short Message Problems when using '

Hi,
when i use the ' character in a sms, my ameo only allows up to 70 characters.
Anyone with the same experience or how to solve this? I just want to avoid paying for 2 or more messages although my message is less the 160 characters.
Thanks, best regards,
tsfnet

How about other character than ' ? Why would you use 70 ' in SMS?

I'm unable to replicate this problem on my UK Ameo. Maybe a bug in the German edition, or perhaps something odd with your device. Can you confirm its the ' on the 'z' key on the Ameo Keyboard?

messaging>text messages>menu>tools>options>text messages>use unicode when....
untick this

Problem solved, thanks
fallenczar said:
messaging>text messages>menu>tools>options>text messages>use unicode when....
untick this
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Yup, that's it ... many thanks

I'd noticed that sometimes mine was going over to a second message way before 160 chars - as I have more texts in my bundle than I'll ever use it didn't really bother me but have now unchecked the unicode box - thanks fallenczar

Sick of sending MMS

Why oh why does my phone send certain messages as MMS? My wife can send long messages without them turning into MMS on the same network (three). Is there any settings I need to tick or remove to combat this issue? Any suggestions welcome.
Best regards,

g0tch said:
Why oh why does my phone send certain messages as MMS? My wife can send long messages without them turning into MMS on the same network (three). Is there any settings I need to tick or remove to combat this issue? Any suggestions welcome.
Best regards,
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That's probably because you're using image-based emoticons (from the keyboard's build-in emoticons) instead of text-based System ones (Optionkey>insert smiley). The former inserts an image, which converts the message to a MultiMedia message.

ShadowLea said:
That's probably because you're using image-based emoticons (from the keyboard's build-in emoticons) instead of text-based System ones (Optionkey>insert smiley). The former inserts an image, which converts the message to a MultiMedia message.
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That was my first reaction but going back to the 5 messages that it happened on, aand one this morning, there were no emoticons. I very rarely send any and when I do, I send the silly green ones. It's got to be character count problems somewhere. Tried looking in my wife's phone - also a Note 3 - for any settings difference, but no luck so far. It seems she can send long msgs without them turning into MMS.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Regards

g0tch said:
That was my first reaction but going back to the 5 messages that it happened on, aand one this morning, there were no emoticons. I very rarely send any and when I do, I send the silly green ones. It's got to be character count problems somewhere. Tried looking in my wife's phone - also a Note 3 - for any settings difference, but no luck so far. It seems she can send long msgs without them turning into MMS.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Regards
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Hm... Then we keep looking.
What's your Input Mode (Messages > Settings > SMS/MMS > Input Mode) set to? GSM Alphabet allows longer messages, Unicode forces them down to 70 characters.

ShadowLea said:
Hm... Then we keep looking.
What's your Input Mode (Messages > Settings > SMS/MMS > Input Mode) set to? GSM Alphabet allows longer messages, Unicode forces them down to 70 characters.
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ShadowLea, you are my shining star! :angel: Indeed, that was the difference between the settings between the two phones. I have just sent a long message and all was well, no MMS. Another thanks earned.
As a long time reader of this forum - 3, 4 times a day - and every time I read some of your posts, I think how marvellous to have you contribution and your knowledge
You have made this ol geezer happy. Many thanks!
Best regards