Why oh why does my phone send certain messages as MMS? My wife can send long messages without them turning into MMS on the same network (three). Is there any settings I need to tick or remove to combat this issue? Any suggestions welcome.
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g0tch said:
Why oh why does my phone send certain messages as MMS? My wife can send long messages without them turning into MMS on the same network (three). Is there any settings I need to tick or remove to combat this issue? Any suggestions welcome.
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That's probably because you're using image-based emoticons (from the keyboard's build-in emoticons) instead of text-based System ones (Optionkey>insert smiley). The former inserts an image, which converts the message to a MultiMedia message.
ShadowLea said:
That's probably because you're using image-based emoticons (from the keyboard's build-in emoticons) instead of text-based System ones (Optionkey>insert smiley). The former inserts an image, which converts the message to a MultiMedia message.
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That was my first reaction but going back to the 5 messages that it happened on, aand one this morning, there were no emoticons. I very rarely send any and when I do, I send the silly green ones. It's got to be character count problems somewhere. Tried looking in my wife's phone - also a Note 3 - for any settings difference, but no luck so far. It seems she can send long msgs without them turning into MMS.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Regards
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That was my first reaction but going back to the 5 messages that it happened on, aand one this morning, there were no emoticons. I very rarely send any and when I do, I send the silly green ones. It's got to be character count problems somewhere. Tried looking in my wife's phone - also a Note 3 - for any settings difference, but no luck so far. It seems she can send long msgs without them turning into MMS.
Thanks for your thoughts.
Regards
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Hm... Then we keep looking.
What's your Input Mode (Messages > Settings > SMS/MMS > Input Mode) set to? GSM Alphabet allows longer messages, Unicode forces them down to 70 characters.
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Hm... Then we keep looking.
What's your Input Mode (Messages > Settings > SMS/MMS > Input Mode) set to? GSM Alphabet allows longer messages, Unicode forces them down to 70 characters.
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ShadowLea, you are my shining star! :angel: Indeed, that was the difference between the settings between the two phones. I have just sent a long message and all was well, no MMS. Another thanks earned.
As a long time reader of this forum - 3, 4 times a day - and every time I read some of your posts, I think how marvellous to have you contribution and your knowledge
You have made this ol geezer happy. Many thanks!
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After searching the forum without success, I have these questions for you:
- How do I turn off the "message sent" windows that appears after having sent away an SMS? I'm not talking about the message I get if the phone company has delivered an SMS.
- If sending a long SMS (usually 2 x 160 signs = 320 signs), my htc changes to the third message already after 302 signs instead. I don't have this error if I type long mails with Jeyo Mobile Companion (there, the full length of 320 signs for 2 SMS are used). How do I tell my htc to behave normally?
- My thingy is storing sent SMS in the "sent" as well as in the "in" directory. How to get rid of this strange behavior?
A lot to think about, I know. Still, I hope to get your very much apprecitated answers. Thanks, though.
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After searching the forum without success, I have these questions for you:
- How do I turn off the "message sent" windows that appears after having sent away an SMS? I'm not talking about the message I get if the phone company has delivered an SMS.
- If sending a long SMS (usually 2 x 160 signs = 320 signs), my htc changes to the third message already after 302 signs instead. I don't have this error if I type long mails with Jeyo Mobile Companion (there, the full length of 320 signs for 2 SMS are used). How do I tell my htc to behave normally?
- My thingy is storing sent SMS in the "sent" as well as in the "in" directory. How to get rid of this strange behavior?
A lot to think about, I know. Still, I hope to get your very much apprecitated answers. Thanks, though.
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1) Go to sms tab > all messages > menu > settings and disable message sent notification
2) Are you using unicode characters, i.e. èêāú as they take up more than 1 character when using sms/mms etc
3) Are you using threaded sms as your sms appears as a conversation so you know what you sent previously. You can always turn off threaded sms style in settings
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1) Go to sms tab > all messages > menu > settings and disable message sent notification
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First, thanks for the fast response.
On the SMS tab, there is only "in" and "menu" available... If a screen shot is needed, let me know.
..Are you using unicode characters, i.e. èêāú as they take up more than 1 character when using sms/mms etc
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I'm not, just regular Umlauts (I usually send German SMS), they don't take more than one character.
...Are you using threaded sms as your sms appears as a conversation so you know what you sent previously. You can always turn off threaded sms style in settings
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To my knowledge, I don't use threaded SMS. Where exactly would I find those settings?
Best regards to Ireland from Switzerland.
I've used so many roms so its hard for me to remember exact locations especially on stock roms. To disable message sent you need to go to message settings. In sms tab go to menu > accounts or settings
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I've used so many roms so its hard for me to remember exact locations especially on stock roms. To disable message sent you need to go to message settings. In sms tab go to menu > accounts or settings
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Didn't find such settings. Well, I don't want to argue - maybe somebody else has an answer to my questions?
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Didn't find such settings. Well, I don't want to argue - maybe somebody else has an answer to my questions?
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just use the app hd tweak.
Or Advanced Config 3.3
Seriously, this is getting beyond a joke. I thought this problem was solved back with the G1...
I can't believe that after all of this time there is no option to disable auto-mms conversion.
And before anyone comments: I have looked through google; It is NOT a problem with my network, or violation of any other UK network; I have sent much more than 3 or even 10 stringed sms's on winmo and iPhone OS. It is 100% Android, and I would like a fix without installing a new messaging client (nothing supports the N1's resolution).
To be honest, I wouldn't mind disabling outgoing mms since it's completely obsolete; I email something if I want to send a picture and I thought Android was made to promote data usage, not prehistoric phone methods.
If it's what it takes, I would disable it altogether.
On the odd occasion (like once or twice a year), I may receive an mms, but I have never, in my entire life sent an mms. What is Google's problem? Do they live in the 90's?
Have you tried removed the MMS setting from your APN in the settings?
Sounds like an advantage to me.. Nokias do that too if you type a message too long for SMS. What's the problem? Your message arrives at the other end correctly.
stewart1988 said:
Have you tried removed the MMS setting from your APN in the settings?
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I removed the MMS settings and it hasn't said "converting to mms" after 3 sms's. I suppose that means it's working
Thanks.
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Sounds like an advantage to me.. Nokias do that too if you type a message too long for SMS. What's the problem? Your message arrives at the other end correctly.
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Yeah but I have unlimited sms texts so MMS is automatically a minus for me.
replace the standard messaging app with handcent sms. it's probably my only must-have app on android and it has that option.
niiiick said:
replace the standard messaging app with handcent sms. it's probably my only must-have app on android and it has that option.
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Resolution's too low i'm afraid.
I've only just got away from the iPhone messaging client
resolution of...the icon? everything else is properly done. but if that's your thing, then yeah, the icon looks slightly blurry. wait for an update in the market i guess.
Yeah all of the edges are pixelated.
And I want to get rid of the iPhone messaging client because with only using half of the screen, I don't get as much message on as when it uses the whole width.
I guess I'm a bit bored of the iPhone now and I'd like to mess around with android for a bit first.
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I removed the MMS settings and it hasn't said "converting to mms" after 3 sms's. I suppose that means it's working
Thanks.
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Oh wait, it's converting to mms again ¬¬ and I've removed al of the settings for mms.
I'm currently forced to use WiFi instead of data to access the internet. Since I'm now leaving WiFi on all the time, I can no longer send SMS messages. And I'm not sure I'm receiving them. Is that normal? Is there some sort of setting I need to change? Or is this the old SMS bug from the past?
Thanks.
-Bob-
Pretty sure you have to have data access to send SMS, as it's phone number based, so phone service is required.
there shouldn't be a problem sending and receiving txts when wifi is on.I surf over wifi all day long with no phone issues.
samsamuel said:
there shouldn't be a problem sending and receiving txts when wifi is on.I surf over wifi all day long with no phone issues.
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The strange thing is that NOW I'm receiving and able to send with wi-fi on.
Guess I'll have to turn on "Request delivery report" for now and hope I receive my messages.
It's odd that after 3 months, I've suddenly experienced the dreaded SMS bug.
BTW, can anyone tell me how to access the out box to see if the unsent messages are there?
-Bob-
on the messaging tab,
all messages - menu - settings - traditional mode. makes it easier to switch between in and out box etc.
the outbox usually keeps the messages those could not be sent ... if there 're any of it so ur suppose is ture..and i think there is a number u can define to send a message...not sure about hd2 but xperia x1 my phone automatically get the config...
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the outbox usually keeps the messages those could not be sent ... if there 're any of it so ur suppose is ture..and i think there is a number u can define to send a message...not sure about hd2 but xperia x1 my phone automatically get the config...
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you mean the sms service center number.
settings tab - menu all settings - personal - phone - gsm umts settings tab scroll down to text messaging and voice mail - get settings.
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on the messaging tab,
all messages - menu - settings - traditional mode. makes it easier to switch between in and out box etc.
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Well...no unsent messages!? The "Sent Items" shows all my messages as having been sent, but I know they weren't received. Now I'm starting to wonder if there isn't some user error on my part.
-Bob-
could also simply be your network playing silly buggers .
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could also simply be your network playing silly buggers .
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I agree.
SMS was never designed to be instantaneous, and networks will argue this case.
Wait a few days beforehand, then ask your network provider if they do not appear, it may be a 'stuck' SMS in the network's system causing issues.
I've known a text message to take 363 days to arrive...
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I agree.
SMS was never designed to be instantaneous, and networks will argue this case.
Wait a few days beforehand, then ask your network provider if they do not appear, it may be a 'stuck' SMS in the network's system causing issues.
I've known a text message to take 363 days to arrive...
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The messages that I sent at 8:00 this morning, that were not received, suddenly flooded into the recipient's phones at 11:00. Since they weren't sitting on my phone, as far as I could tell, I guess T-Mobile was hanging on to them. Odd. That's never happened before.
-Bob-
I'm not sure if this is an EVO issue or a Sprint issue as I've always used AT&T before.
Is there a reason I can only receive about 1 SMS per minute and multi-part sms show up in parts rather than as one long message? The default Messaging app and Handcent seem to operate the same.
Any insight?
Thanks
Sprint has limited the number of characters in their messages for some time now, but I usually get the other parts of messages back-to-back. Well, maybe it took another 20 seconds for the 2nd part to come in, but it hasn't taken a whole minute.
Go to the market and download ChompSMS. It gives you the option to either split up the texts or receive them all at once.
Whoa ChompSMS will do that!? Like it will wait for everything to come in, compile it in order, and spit it to you in one SMS? If thats true thats awesome. Some of my friends write novels from their iPhones like little girls. Ill get all 17 pages at random times in random order. Ugh.
Well you can send texts out that are more than 160 characters. I think that you can receive them all at one too
Better yet...send yourself a text using chomp and go past the 160 character limit. See if it splits it up or not.
Handcent does the same. It even gives you the option to customize how you want it split. Split by letter, by word, etc., etc.
AcIdC0R3 said:
Handcent does the same. It even gives you the option to customize how you want it split. Split by letter, by word, etc., etc.
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Where is this option?
AcIdC0R3 said:
Handcent does the same. It even gives you the option to customize how you want it split. Split by letter, by word, etc., etc.
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Are you sure this effects receiving the message? I thought this only had to do with splitting the messages you are sending.
I hate when i get the second half of the message first.....Reply like ???? and then get the first half after i reply......
The person sending can also send them as a MMS (multi media message) which lets you do much more text.
i cant see the option to receive messages > 160 characters at once in chompSMS... I've looked everywhere
hydralisk said:
i cant see the option to receive messages > 160 characters at once in chompSMS... I've looked everywhere
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Have you received a text message that is more than 160 characters? I sent one to myself that was almost 300 and it all came in at one time. I then had a friend send me one, about the same size and it all came in one text...granted it was super long and took up the whole page.
What you could do is this -
SETTINGS > SMS NETWORK > MOBILE CARRIER SETTINGS > CDMA SPLIT
Make sure this is unchecked.
Reboot the phone and send yourself a >160 character text message and see what happens.
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Have you received a text message that is more than 160 characters? I sent one to myself that was almost 300 and it all came in at one time. I then had a friend send me one, about the same size and it all came in one text...granted it was super long and took up the whole page.
What you could do is this -
SETTINGS > SMS NETWORK > MOBILE CARRIER SETTINGS > CDMA SPLIT
Make sure this is unchecked.
Reboot the phone and send yourself a >160 character text message and see what happens.
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This didn't work for me. Can anybody else confirm this?
Well after updating ChompSMS last night, it seems that I cannot receive texts like I used to. I can still get more than 160 characters, but not like I did before.
Oh well...most people I SMS with don't have the ability to send really long text messages anyways. Hope you guys can find something useful.
It seems like I'm sending SMS as URGENT. The receiving Android user sees an URGENT header on their notification screen, but everything looks normal in their messaging app. I have tried the default Messaging app along with the Google one (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging), but there is no difference. I can't find a setting anywhere to choose to purposely send an URGENT-tagged message.
Could this have something to do with the CDMA-less activation?
Sometimes it's hard to screenshot other people's phones, so I'll have to do a little more research...
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It seems like I'm sending SMS as URGENT. The receiving Android user sees an URGENT header on their notification screen, but everything looks normal in their messaging app. I have tried the default Messaging app along with the Google one (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.messaging), but there is no difference. I can't find a setting anywhere to choose to purposely send an URGENT-tagged message.
Could this have something to do with the CDMA-less activation?
Sometimes it's hard to screenshot other people's phones, so I'll have to do a little more research...
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I was having SMS issues as well. I had to call Verizon and have them turn off messaging, then reboot ur phone, have them turn messaging
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I was having SMS issues as well. I had to call Verizon and have them turn off messaging, then reboot ur phone, have them turn messaging
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Interesting... I'll give it a shot. Any key words you found that sped that process along?