Hi,
I'm working on THE ideal freeware sms-application for XDA... I do have much ideas that I want to realise in my SMS-application (scheduled sms, using the interface of a Nokia - Sony-Ericsson, sending messages with your thumb,...)
Now I need to know YOUR :!: suggestions and YOUR :!: wanted features, YOUR :!: wishlist for the ideal SMS-application!
Thanks for telling me what YOU need or want to have...
Sam
I would like to have an SMS application with the possibility to write with one hand in the standard GSM mode with big keypad (like it is in D9 software).
For me the best thing should be to integrate in D9 (after you find the contact with one hand and select the SMS button) an SMS client with the same keypad like the one for finding contacts (always in D9) which has big numbers with letters (that I can tap them with the fingers to write the message).
Instead of the green button it should have the send one and instead of the two big buttons (contact list and options) it should have the place for the written text.
I think it is the easiest way to write SMS when you walk or have just one hand free.
I hope that you are really going to do something like this.
Thanks,
Urosh
Here's my list of desired features:
Support for international numbers with '+' prefix
Ability to send a text message to all contacts that belong to a chosen category
Texting using dialpad with predictive text input (T9)
Big QWERTY keyboard so we could quickly type messages without using the stylus (maybe in landscape mode)
spam blocker as in you can type in a phonenr from where you dont wish to recieve sms's from
to fight sms spam
It would be awesome if you found some way of integrating T9 text option in your sms client..... That would make life so easy when using your thumb to type out quick messages.....
Thank you for the effort in trying to create a client like this.... I think a lot of people could benefit from your efforts.... The sms-writer program that's out there right now is cool, but its hard to use..... The buttons are small and there's no T9 option.... so its takes forever to type out a message.....
In case that you want to have T9 text input method it should be an option and not default (for non english users).
Jargon..."Big QWERTY keyboard so we could quickly type messages without using the stylus (maybe in landscape mode)"...
I think that a big qwerty keyboard is a non sense, because you need two hands to use it. If I have two hands to write the SMS I should use the default input method. What do you think about?
Urosh
QWERTY
Yes i would like a big landscape QWERTY keyboard, that is my prefered method, i am not so much for that T9 stuff,
I would like a big (preferably changeable) readble font!!! I tried miserably to change the font size on the default application and failed (
also it should still integrate with the inbox and outbox..or maybe have its own outbox and inbox and folders
the contacts should easily be found with either a D9, phone plus, or finger clix method
just as a though..maybe the work on the application could be split in 2 folds.....one for the client itself...
the second is for the input method (like block recognizer and on screenkeyboard)..we can have akeypad with T9 option (that can also be used in other applications
this way you can improe the functionality of the sms client and focus on that...and give the freedom to use which ever input method the user prefers
but please...bigger font!!!!
Hops,
Echo all those suggestions dude - especially the one-handed input method like D9. Sending SMS's whilst driving is the bain of my existance!
I'd pay good money for this app if it comes to fruition. Good luck.
Codenix.
At last someone is developing key features for SMS. The most important feature to me is being able to send SMS to a pre asinged group of contacts.
If the application meets my expectation, I will be glad to pay for it!
The big QWERTY keyboard is good when you're texting while walking or when you're a passenger on a moving vehicle. It's hard to use the stylus and the built-in small keyboard when you're on the move. Also, texting using a QWERTY keyboard is faster than texting using a dialpad.
Please, find a way to send and receive EMS picture messages (not MMS), like the Nokia phone
EMS does new nokia's even have that ?
it's pretty old and never got all that popular
also maybe the reson behind it never became popular could
be that nokia or ericson or who ever own that std
want royalties when people use it
Hi all,
Thanks already for your response!
What I will add to my aplication:
- Big QWERTY / AZERTY keyboard
- Input like a normal GSM (abc - def) - like D9 (one-handed input method)
- Using your OUTLOOK-contacts
- Creating user-groups
- Adaptable screen-layouts (colors, fonts, font-size,...)
- Basic EMS-support
What I will not add is T9, because T9 is a trademark of T9 http://www.t9.com/ and to expensive to implement it in my freeware application!
The SPAM-blocker is a feature I will try to implement, but I can't promise this...
Some more whishes??
Thanks in advance!
Sam
That's it for me, but please I woul like to find a contact (from outlook contacts data base) also with one hand (like D9 method).
I say it because for example in SMS writer you write the SMS (it is too slow and too little buttons) and then to find the contact you must use the stylus. It is impossible to use the fingers. So, that's not the solution if I must use the stylus.
So, I repeat that the best solution would be to include your SMS client in D9 (I think it is open source) and your client appears when the contact has been just found and you tap the SMS button near the contact number and write the SMS with the same screen of initial d9.
That should be the BEST for me!
Thanks again samvds for your work.
Just another thing
In the default SMS client I have to check the box (I have to go always in the option menu) everytime if I want to ricieve the delivery notification.
Could you make it in one of these ways:
- default option (always send the notification of delivery, which is for me important to know if one have recieved the SMS)
- to select this option every time, but in the same screen (not to go in other option menus)
- have the possibility to select this option or not for all SMS (not for every SMS separately)
Thanks again,
Urosh
my good old siemens SL45 used to understand that it was receiving the delivery reciept..and it would not save it as a message...just to scroll the info on the screen ..which is very nice not to have all those delivery receipts in the inbox!
Another good idea is being able to send preprogrammed sms.
you can program your XDA2 to send a birthday greeting on March 13, 2004 at exactly 12:00 am. Or SMS all of your staff a memo on at a certain time
I think using a QWERTY keypad is a bad idea... I have a Nokia 5510, with a full QWERTY keyboard, and it is such a pain to text. I always have to use two hands... you have to be very dextrous just to use one hand. I think a normal dial keypad with T9 would be the best option.
Thanks,
Matt
thoroughfare said:
I think using a QWERTY keypad is a bad idea... I have a Nokia 5510, with a full QWERTY keyboard, and it is such a pain to text. I always have to use two hands... you have to be very dextrous just to use one hand. I think a normal dial keypad with T9 would be the best option.
Thanks,
Matt
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I agree
Related
every time i send a short text message, it deducts 48p off my balance instead of 12p.
POS!
whats wrong with it ?
are you using pocket plus or other programs which really close applications insted of the normal minimize ?
Same for me : Text messages are sent twice !!!
Doesn't really bother me as I don't have to pay for it anyway (thx a lot, boss ) but it is pretty annoying for the recipient
Using the default SMS-programm (Messaging) on my BA with WM2003 SE
There is a bug when sending txts that I found. Look at the characters and pages. For some reason if you use T9 and it auto punctuates more than once (sometimes just the once) it will shorten the txt message to half therefore sends 2 or more. It's stupid but just keep an eye on the counter and manually remove punctuation e.g, there's to theres and it will be fine... I only found this out after months of double and triple txt messaging charges.
Thx a lot for the feedbacl, although the problem/issue I'm facing is slightly different as I'm not using T9 and the message is not being split up.
It is exactly the same message that is being sent twice
princegary said:
There is a bug when sending txts that I found. Look at the characters and pages. For some reason if you use T9 and it auto punctuates more than once (sometimes just the once) it will shorten the txt message to half therefore sends 2 or more.
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That's no bug.
SMS are shortened whenever the phone switches to unicode (which is necessary for using some unconventional characters)
But the Qtek devices show clearly how many chars can be sent in one SMS and even how many SMS will be sent.
Simply watch the counter at the bottom before sending an SMS and avoid characters demanding unicode.
Sascha
okay. will do.
cheers.
rite...
Well im using the 02 300 free texts and mine gets sent 3-4 times. even thou i avoid using T9 and Unicode characters (annoys me) but i donno why, is there a solution to it. cheers :?
Re: rite...
dj_factor said:
Well im using the 02 300 free texts and mine gets sent 3-4 times. even thou i avoid using T9 and Unicode characters
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Does O2 deliver the same SMS 3-4 times to the recipient or do they "split" the message into 3-4 messages.
In the latter case, you are definitely using unicode characters.
In the first case you should contact your provider.
And don't forget: watch the counter before sending.
Sascha
Double txt messages
Hi,
I am getting the smae problem every message I send is getting sent twice from the XDAII.
Doesnt matter if the txt is <160 chars or multiple messages.
The receiving device receives the message.
Then sometimes (NOT ALL THE TIME) it will send a duplicate message.
Usually (but again not all the time) the duplicate is sent later when the XDA is used again, after turning it back on.
Any one any clues?
It does run PocketNav as a task switcher/killer and I am going to diable it to check this as a cause.
Thanks in advance
This is a bug from spb Pocket plus when closing the SMS application while message is still sending, try not to close the SMS app while message is still sending.
me too...me too....while using XDA II sending msg, receipient get 2 msgs...i m using spb pocket plus and some chinese translation software...which is the cause of the problem?.. :roll:
The cause is 'tmail.exe'. If you are using spb Pocket Plus you need to do the following:
1. Tab on Start, Settings
2. Select System to launch Spb Pocket Plus
3. Tab on the Features Options that will bring you to Close Button panel.
4. Tab on Exceptions that will show you a panel 'Listed programs will always be minimized when tap the X button'
5. Tab on the ADD button and a pop-up box will display. Then select tab on the Browse.
6. A panel will be displayed showing all the directories. Then tab on the '+' sign of the Windows Directory to expand it.
7. Scroll down till you find a program 'tmail.exe' and tab on it to select it.
8. Lastly, tab on the OK button and it will bring you back to the Close Button panel. In the box it will showed that you have selectet the 'tmail.exe'. Then tab on the OK button on the top right corner.
9. That's all. It should work. On a safe side do a Soft Reset.
You won't have mail sending twice and you will be prompted immediately when the is an incoming mail.
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:lol: Thankz a dozen WillyBilly...it is very detail!! Thankz again!!! :lol:
It helps.......
then4ag said:
:lol: Thankz a dozen WillyBilly...it is very detail!! Thankz again!!! :lol:
It helps.......
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Great.....good to hear that......
Also that problem without Spb Pocket Plus installed
Hi y'all. I have an IMate Jam PM10A (former T-Mobile MDA) and I'm having the same problems. My sms messages are delivered twice, the 1st immidiatly, the 2nd sometimes an hour later. I do not have SpB Pocket Plus Installed, here is what i do have installed:
# Xvid Codec
# Smart Movie Lonely Cat
# IRemote Majeres
# Windows Theme Switch Today
# Pocketmind Pocketmusic
# Virtual Display Nyditot
# Resco Explorerer 2003
# Wisbar Advance
# Laridan Pocketbible
# Todayinfo Lou Terailloune
# Calendarplus Mohairsofa
Could the Wisbar Advance be the problem=
V-Bar
I'm sending multiple sms as well
Im not using pocket plus but i do use the T9 autocomplete so will turn that off and see, think i do send small multiple sms as well, also i use V-Bar which closes applications so i have removed that and will see if anymore ppl complain about me spamming the multiple sms
Anyone got any idea if any of the following problems cause conflicts in a similar way to pocket plus
pocketxpdf
smartflash
genocide device status on today
pocketmind pocketmusic
david andres battii
art in code screen switch
vbar
bartek
Poket Plus ?? Multiple texts
Rudegar said:
are you using pocket plus or other programs which really close applications insted of the normal minimize ?
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Hi Rudegar,
You mentioned - POCKET PLUS to other user ...
Both my XDA IIi and my wife's XDA mini-s send same message multiple times. I will always receive the message immediately and then again when my wife 'activates' her phone in some way, and vice-versa.
We both use Pocket Plus - Is this the cause. I have been stripping away third party software for amateur developers but I reckoned Pocket Plus seemed 'safe'
Tony - [O2 ireland network]
pocket plus have an option which terminate (really close application rather then minimize them) when people press the X
this is as far as i know useless and a wish people comming from windows on pc like because they dont know that win ce automaticly close unused applications when it require the memory those applications is using
so one can safely turn off that "real" close of application unless one get serious slowdowns from using applications which eat alot of mem
otherwise excluding outlook from the "real" close option is a way to avoid it
or to not close outlook with the x before one gets the msg is sendt icon on the title bar of
Thank You
Thank you Rudegar,
I was fairly sure I had replied to your very helpful post when indeed I hadn't - So, Thanks again, your help pointed me in the right direction to sort my problem!
Is there a program or a way to send sms to multiple contacts or grouped contacts with qtek 9100 (HTC Wizard)?
is it possible with poketinformant?
WM5 doesn't support this option that was supported by windows MObile 2003...
Please help
There MUST be a way to send an sms to more than one person. We had this feature 1000 phones ago so it must be there.
Jeyo Mobile Extende
Here
http://www.jeyo.com/extender.asp
What are you kidding? Simple!
Put your cursor in the "To:" box and click menu (right soft button) and Add Recipient.
Select the name. Repeat as needed for as many contacts as you want.
Alternatively add the numbers manually seperated by a ; just like you would in an Email.
Lewis
sorry! what i need is a group sending... with my old magician i select in one shot ten or more contacts then i sent my sms. now with newest 9100 i must select contact one by one :-( :-(
I don't know of any program to do this, but it would be easy to store lists of names in a note then copy and paste them into the TO section as and when. Not exactly 'group sending' at its best but does the job...
Hi,
I need too... Is great for Christmas and New Year!
Idea is write sms and then select multiple recipients from contacts in one shot (by active each contact).
Anybody know?
Thanks
Visual IT are bring out an upgrade to their Simply SMS
This will allow users to send an sms to a group of people grouped under a category.
here's the link, keep an eye out for it in the new year.
http://www.visualit.co.uk/PocketPC/simplesms.htm
Hi, Peteborota,
Thanks, but not work with a PDA phone (Qtek 9100) and with WM5!
Searching....
I use TapText by Dinarsoft for occasions like this. Like Hazymat said, but instead of using notepad, i use taptext to store groups of emails. Tap on TapText icon on the top bar to access.
Works with Wisbar Advanced running too. You got to deactivate program icon and make an icon in WA2 to activate TapText. Works really well with WM5. But storing group emails are part of it, i use it to store anything which i need to use frequently. It is commercialware tho.
ARP they will be releasing a WM5 version in the new year
Spoke to their support desk, they hope to release early jan.
Book mark the site and keep looking.
Cheers.
Thanks Swampy, TapText is great!
But I need a app that can send an SMS to many recipients by hightlight each one, in one shot.
Anybody know one?
Tanks
Have just upgraded to a HTC Cruise. I was used to search my contacts with
T9 with my old "Breeze". Nevertheless which Keyboard I use while I am in the Contacts, I does NOT use T9/XT9, nevertheless I enabled it in the Options for each possible Keyboard. I no longer get Concact-names predicted while typing on the keypad! That worked perfectly with my Breeze. Some way of enabling this (or makes the Cruise an indexing which takes 3 weeks?) It mysticly works, if I change to SMS mode, there T9/XT9 works correct for common words. The Problem is, that I have over 700 Contacts and the reason I rebought a HTC, is because of the possibility to search my contacts without pen, but with T9.
Can anybody help, PLEASE???
Indeed I am confused: How do I use smileys on my Treo Pro in an SMS (text message)? There are some on the phone, according to a folder on the phone, but do not know to use them...no pop up like on my old Palm Treo 680....and do not care to type in things like a colon followed by a closing parenthesis, to result in this:
Palm has dropped their own sms app in favor of the standard WM6 sms app. That does not support smileys. You could just do them by hand though .
MaxLaw843 said:
Indeed I am confused: How do I use smileys on my Treo Pro in an SMS (text message)? There are some on the phone, according to a folder on the phone, but do not know to use them...no pop up like on my old Palm Treo 680....and do not care to type in things like a colon followed by a closing parenthesis, to result in this:
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Yep, too bad
You just have to type them in.
Send as MMS
You could send your texts as MMS and then you have the smileys. If you have an unlimited everything account then who cares? Although you might look like a douche to your recipients...
SMS vs. MMS (Others NOT receiving....)
bones boy said:
You could send your texts as MMS and then you have the smileys. If you have an unlimited everything account then who cares? Although you might look like a douche to your recipients...
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I have tried the MMS route, as I rarely send texts except to my wife (and she knows what a geek--Etc.--I am). She never gets them...do not know if it is because she is on Verizon (on a Palm 755p) and I am on T-mobile (with 400 texts a month for $5). So....don't know why it is never getting through to her.....
quick tip
I also miss having the smiley button. I preferred the old palm sms over the microsoft sms, and I tried installing the old palm sms but found I was then not able to use MMS. So I am now using the microsoft sms and found a quick smiley trick. When typing a message, if you want to enter a smile, frown or wink....hit the Alt button then hit option semi-colin....it will bring up those 3 smileys as options. Hope this helps.
-CC
Can't you just use Smiley SMS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328363
ALT + Option button + semi-colon = Smilies
Lawmen23 said:
I also miss having the smiley button. I preferred the old palm sms over the microsoft sms, and I tried installing the old palm sms but found I was then not able to use MMS. So I am now using the microsoft sms and found a quick smiley trick. When typing a message, if you want to enter a smile, frown or wink....hit the Alt button then hit option semi-colin....it will bring up those 3 smileys as options. Hope this helps.
-CC
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Thanks...now if that isn't a hidden trick for WinMo 6.1, I don't know what is.
Wonder how many people (other than you...and now me) know about that trick?
I want something more than Smiley SMS offers: Sorry!
wallen said:
Can't you just use Smiley SMS?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328363
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Nope...from what I see, Smiley SMS only displays Smileys in your text message, and does not allow you to insert one.
Dear all
bought my HD2 sim-free and have been using it for 1-2 days now.
it is manila 2.5.19211619.0 & rom 1.48.405.2 (71294)WWE
while we wait for HTC to allow us to use our GBP500 handsets to send SMS reliably, I thought I'd compile a list of other problems with the new HTC messaging interface - perhaps if anybody from HTC is reading, they could use it as a sort of wish-list. Feel free to add your own woes.
also, if anybody knows any fixes for the behaviour i am reporting here - please let me know!!
1. It sometimes doesn't send SMS (well-known issue, sure - texting myself seems to do the trick so far but hardly ideal to have to check outbox every half hour)
2. It cannot mark received/read SMS as unread (if i'm wrong here, please let me know)
3. it is difficult to select a whole bunch of messages - you ought to be able to hold down and drag to select, say, adjacent 5 messages in the "all msgs" view, in order to then action them (eg. retry send ! )
4. in all messages view, the side-scrolling bar does not enlarge itself after a short tap, unlike in eg. file explorer.
5. when you are composing a new SMS, as you start typing letters of somebody's name, some of the contact suggestions are associated with that person's mobile number (as expected) whereas other contacts are suggested with their *email address* (even when you have the mobile number for that contact) so that it tries to send the SMS to that person's email address. Not very clever. if anybody knows how to fix this please let me know.
6. if you use PIM backup to restore eg. 500 SMS, you may mysteriously find the following day that many of them have disappeared. spooky.
7. it (HTC messaging) is so arrogant that it provides no easy way for the user to revert to WM SMS program. not very "make it mine" is it HTC?
8. (thanks to DavrosMackenzie below for reminding me) what a WEIRD bug - when you attempt to put a ! or ? at the end of your cursor when composing SMS, the cursor reverts to a random point in the message and your punctuation mark is in the middle of some random word.
UPDATE: I have sent the above 8 items to HTC support via email on their website.
9. there is no "SMS sent" notification as there was in eg. WM5.0
Largely speaking I only see 7) as the issue. If the Windows messaging app were easily available then you'd simply be able to choose between a flawless functional app versus stylish but primitive.
However personally I still haven't found a way to revert the the Windows messenger app, all the methods I've found here on the forum fail to work fully. So then I guess I'm stuck too with the other points mentioned. It's all ostly minor to me except 1) of course. If I need to any more complicated message organizing I just do it through the MS My Phone web interface and sync.
Also 4) is a feature not a bug The expanding scroll bars are only for the default native controls which need to be dragged themselves, hence the expanding button for easy finger usage. The HTC scrollbar doesn't need that as the whole screen reacts to a sliding finger for scrolling the view.
The inconsistency is a bit odd I suppose but that's what happens when your on an evolved platform rather than a new one.
thanks for the LIST, have you send it to HTC yet?
I have been bugging them about the SMS stuck in outbox issue every 2nd day ...
you also missed out the SLOW loading SMS while there are more than 20 sms-s in coversation view.~
hmm...for me its the no. 4 which is a bit irritating but i can live with it...since in my case it shows both the number as well the email for the same name...
btw...i know this works for some people and for some dont, but messaging problem seems to go away if you select
1. GSM in messaging
2. put the local mesaging centre number...
havent faceda any sms problem till now...
Instead of using pim backup you should use the sync application microsoft my phone....
Lag when opening messages, we all know about that though.
This one i've only seen one other person mention and thats when i come to put a ! or ? at the end the cursor jumps to some random point in the message, basically means i have proof read every damn message and its starting to really annoy me.
I've an un-branded Vodaphone device thanks to mobiles.co.uk and have upgraded the ROM from the 1.43 through to 1.61 and this nagging little bug has been present in all.
The predictive text has become alot better, to the point now where i can write txts much quicker but the other problems make txtsing a nightmare compared to the iPhone.
I was so pissed off with the iPhone by the end of my run with it but it could text like a dream compared with this, i miss my apps sure but if the texting would work on the HD2 i wouldn't be considering moving back!
Not giving up yet though, will wait for a few more ROMS to come out and maybe HardSPL.
uccoffee said:
thanks for the LIST, have you send it to HTC yet?
I have been bugging them about the SMS stuck in outbox issue every 2nd day ...
you also missed out the SLOW loading SMS while there are more than 20 sms-s in coversation view.~
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the slow sms loading buggs me. i have alot of text messages with my girl and It's annoying to everytime wait a minnit or so. also if you push the soft key menu and wait a second It's loads alot faster.
you may aspect from htc with a phone that costs a fortune it would be near perfect. but this one is nearly done. and dont come with the excuse that no phone is good out of the box, i know that but after al the tweaking i have done to this phone im getting the hang of it. but there are more bugs that anoy me.
1 slow downs in the sense interface.
2. the jittering of the keyboard.
3. the ghost typed key issue
4. and all the minor things what are to many to name.
well htc thank-you for this wonderfull phone. now make it mine.....
btw, could someone tell me where i can find the outbox for the sms utility?
Prom1se said:
the slow sms loading buggs me. i have alot of text messages with my girl and It's annoying to everytime wait a minnit or so. also if you push the soft key menu and wait a second It's loads alot faster.
you may aspect from htc with a phone that costs a fortune it would be near perfect. but this one is nearly done. and dont come with the excuse that no phone is good out of the box, i know that but after al the tweaking i have done to this phone im getting the hang of it. but there are more bugs that anoy me.
1 slow downs in the sense interface.
2. the jittering of the keyboard.
3. the ghost typed key issue
4. and all the minor things what are to many to name.
well htc thank-you for this wonderfull phone. now make it mine.....
btw, could someone tell me where i can find the outbox for the sms utility?
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To view your outbox, you need to have SMS in traditional mode.
Go to: All mesages > Menu > Settings > Traditional Mode.
Has anyone found a fix for this fundamental function of any phone. And we all know this is not a problem with WM6.5 as alot of us have been using 6.5 for some time (myself on my polaris, using Kostas ROM), so therefore HTC really F#@K this up.
I have another one, the sms notification sound almost never gets activated... I am on 1.43 O2.
Most of the time I have to click "compose new text" when in converstional mode at least 10 times before it actually lets my type! It doesn't matter how many messages I have with that contact so isn't a lag thing!
blackheart2925 said:
hmm...for me its the no. 4 which is a bit irritating but i can live with it...since in my case it shows both the number as well the email for the same name...
btw...i know this works for some people and for some dont, but messaging problem seems to go away if you select
1. GSM in messaging
2. put the local mesaging centre number...
havent faceda any sms problem till now...
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I got GSM in messaging, and +xxx in the messaging number.
But I still get SMS stuck in outbox every couple of days ...
HTC Messaging is not working with MMS to email. The pictures doesn't have a last name (extension), and will not be reconiced as an .jpg, and therefore not show in correctly.
Larsen
When I create an SMS and enter the first few letters of a contacts name, all available phone numbers for that person are listed. However, the icons indicating the type of contact number (work, mobile, home, etc.) are incorrect. All are displayed as mobile so I do not know which is the actual mobile number and which are the others. Is this the same for everyone else? I've reflashed to 1.48 and installed the SMS patch from HTC.